BitShares Forum

There's been some discussion on another thread about the need to make OpenLedger more prominent on the forum so visitors cannot miss it.  Below is a post I made on the matter.  This is critical and I think we should discuss how we can go about quickly creating a new top level forum category to be listed right after General Discussion and Bitshares 2.0, entitled "OpenLedger: Bitshares Default Wallet" or something along those lines.  Thoughts?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22197.msg289461.html#msg289461

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Quote from: tbone on April 12, 2016, 02:58:12 PM

Quote from: Akado on April 12, 2016, 02:25:40 PM
I think this is exactly what is needed. If OpenLedger keeps this up, it will be the "go to" place to trade the most recent coins. People will look for and expect OpenLedger to list them and will trade them there. It can create demand for OL. Maker, Digix and Lisk. The timing is right because atm people are throwing money at everything expecting another Ether like event. With this OL can get the acknowledgement and buzz it needed.

People expect Polo to add these new coins but they dont seem too responsive so it's a good chance to snatch some traders. Then it's just a matter of time until people get used to the platform.

It seems there are a lot of good things happening with OpenLedger.  Ronny really seems to be getting the word out there.  I'm also thrilled that we have LISK and soon to be Digix and hopefully Synereo and others trading here on the DEX. And although I have no idea exactly how it fits in, I am intrigued by CoinsBank.  From what I can see, CoinsBank may ultimately be like another Coinbase.  Imagine if BTS could be purchased from directly within a Coinbase account?  That would be a game changer.

I'm also impressed by the OpenLedger video series Ronny has been putting together.  And not just the tutorials.  The new "You are in control" video (below) is really excellent. 

I think a lot of this stuff needs to be much more front and center.  Looking at the forum structure, OpenLedger is nowhere to be found!  I think that's a mistake.  New visitors to the forum should see OpenLedger quickly and easily.  And the tutorials and other OpenLedger videos, etc. should be easy for anyone to find.  With that in mind, perhaps we should consider creating a new forum after General Discussion and Bitshares 2.0 entitled "OpenLedger: Bitshares Wallet" or something to that effect.  Thoughts?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG_XiOdbum8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG_XiOdbum8)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/ekqo2v.png)

i'm thinking we should place it on top right ... where currenty bitsapphire link is ...
also we should overtake the forum again ... my 2 cents ...

the only thing this top link is doing, is position bitsapphire in first line of meta desc.
when searching forum via google.

As long as where ever it is placed has room for others as well then I say go for it!  +5%

I think OpenLedger specifically has been consistently improving/progressing and adding positive value to BitShares for enough time that this is warranted.

Quote from: cass on April 13, 2016, 07:57:51 AM
i'm thinking we should place it on top right ... where currenty bitsapphire link is ...
also we should overtake the forum again ... my 2 cents ...

the only thing this top link is doing, is position bitsapphire in first line of meta desc.
when searching forum via google.

+5% I would rather have OL there than bitsapphire.

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on April 13, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
+5% I would rather have OL there than bitsapphire.

^^^ THIS  +5%

Quote from: liondani on April 13, 2016, 01:07:45 PM

Quote from: Empirical1.2 on April 13, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
+5% I would rather have OL there than bitsapphire.

^^^ THIS  +5%

+5% +5%

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on April 13, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
As long as where ever it is placed has room for others as well then I say go for it!  +5%

There is already a place for all parties.  What we're talking about here is making the default Bitshares wallet prominently visible on the forum site.  It should be one of the first things people see when they visit, otherwise we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

Quote from: tbone on April 13, 2016, 04:28:19 PM

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on April 13, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
As long as where ever it is placed has room for others as well then I say go for it!  +5%

There is already a place for all parties.  What we're talking about here is making the default Bitshares wallet prominently visible on the forum site.  It should be one of the first things people see when they visit, otherwise we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

the default wallet should not be openledger but the bitshares.org wallet. i want to know how many people are converting from the promoting of openledger and not just because they are the default on bitshares.org (they are right now) and then bitsharestalk.org as well. how do we measure how successful they are, if they get all the community exposure for free as well.  they are doing a good job, but they are promoting their own business and their own UIAs and not the bitAssets.

i assume in the future openledger are equal to bitshares in the perception of the people but legally they are not.

Keep this forum independent and neutral.

Quote from: btswolf on April 13, 2016, 04:56:08 PM
Keep this forum independent and neutral.

Not that I disagree with your sentiment, but Is it currently?

Quote from: Shentist on April 13, 2016, 04:36:37 PM

Quote from: tbone on April 13, 2016, 04:28:19 PM

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on April 13, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
As long as where ever it is placed has room for others as well then I say go for it!  +5%

There is already a place for all parties.  What we're talking about here is making the default Bitshares wallet prominently visible on the forum site.  It should be one of the first things people see when they visit, otherwise we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

the default wallet should not be openledger but the bitshares.org wallet. i want to know how many people are converting from the promoting of openledger and not just because they are the default on bitshares.org (they are right now) and then bitsharestalk.org as well. how do we measure how successful they are, if they get all the community exposure for free as well.  they are doing a good job, but they are promoting their own business and their own UIAs and not the bitAssets.

i assume in the future openledger are equal to bitshares in the perception of the people but legally they are not.

+5%

First thing is first though... if this is going to continue as a community forum, it needs to get back in the control of people who are part of this community.

Quote from: Shentist on April 13, 2016, 04:36:37 PM

Quote from: tbone on April 13, 2016, 04:28:19 PM

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on April 13, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
As long as where ever it is placed has room for others as well then I say go for it!  +5%

There is already a place for all parties.  What we're talking about here is making the default Bitshares wallet prominently visible on the forum site.  It should be one of the first things people see when they visit, otherwise we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

the default wallet should not be openledger but the bitshares.org wallet. i want to know how many people are converting from the promoting of openledger and not just because they are the default on bitshares.org (they are right now) and then bitsharestalk.org as well. how do we measure how successful they are, if they get all the community exposure for free as well.  they are doing a good job, but they are promoting their own business and their own UIAs and not the bitAssets.

Yeah, that's a valid point.

Is Ronny pushing bitGOLD?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/cryptocurrency-for-beginners_b_9672144.html

Quote from: Erlich Bachman on April 13, 2016, 07:58:43 PM
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/cryptocurrency-for-beginners_b_9672144.html

When people want to learn about cryptocurrency, I always recommend listening to David Seaman (http://i.imgur.com/VwJ3OC2.jpg).  ::)

Quote from: Shentist on April 13, 2016, 04:36:37 PM

the default wallet should not be openledger but the bitshares.org wallet. i want to know how many people are converting from the promoting of openledger and not just because they are the default on bitshares.org (they are right now) and then bitsharestalk.org as well. how do we measure how successful they are, if they get all the community exposure for free as well.  they are doing a good job, but they are promoting their own business and their own UIAs and not the bitAssets.

I constantly see the comments about promoting own UIA's, and here even bitassets on top. When did promoting assets only available of the platform where the main currency bts is the sole form of payment turn into promoting your own business only?

On top of all I will show you below a smaller part of articles all including and promoting bitshares and all from since the time of launch of OpenLedger an the BTS 2.0 platform, their smartcoins, bitassets etc. Who else in this forum has managed to present this much material about the same product, project and concept? Well, who else outside this forum from other currencies have even had the same mentioning in various media like BTS has and all from the same source?

Perhaps if everyone who has an interest in bts and Bitassets started to contribute not only by showing what its not, but more on what it is all about, then we could benefit from some synergies where all worked towards one common goal!

Is the common goal not to bring the knowledge of bts to the rest of the world and let them all become engaged and start using bts in their everyday life, not necessarily knowing about bts, but instead accepting that the way to get food on the table is via some crypto cyrrency they dont know about as such but have learned to appreciate.

below is what I found when googling OpenLedger and all ar including BTS, smartcoins o bitassets:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/02/08/microsoft-partner-emercoin-joins-cryptos-openledger-to-deliver-robust-blockchain-services/#4342a4074407
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/10/10/openledgers-crypto-financial-platform-officially-launching-as-central-bank-interest-revealed/#5f16a5fe212a
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/03/10/bitcoin-3-0-tech-bitshares-built-on-decentralized-conglomerate-platform-surges/#312b97dd39f8
https://news.bitcoin.com/conglomerates-interview-openledger-ceo
http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/trading-platform-openledger-launches
https://news.bitcoin.com/decentralized-fintech-exchange-openledger-launches-today
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/03/16/bitcoin-3-0-tech-bitshares-surges-openledger-launches-worlds-first-decentralized-conglomerate
http://bitcoinist.net/openledger-decentralized-conglomerate
http://www.econotimes.com/OpenLedger-Launches-Worlds-First-Decentralized-Conglomerate-180329
http://bitcoinvestor.net
http://www.bestebank.org/openledger
http://allcoinsnews.com/2016/03/25/openledger-launches-world-first-decentralized-conglomerate
https://coincurrencynews.com/2016/03/01/create-your-own-asset-class-with-openledger-bitshares
http://btcmiami.com/uncategorized/openledger-launches-global-enterprise-3-0
http://fuk.io/openledger-decentralized-exchange-and-obits-new-way-to-trade-bitcoins-and-make-money
http://cryptocurrencymagazine.com/how-to-use-open-ledger
http://coinandpeace.hatenablog.com/entry/openledger_and_obits
http://blog.livedoor.jp/cryptocurrency/archives/cat_1171639.html
http://forklog.com/finteh-birzha-openledger-obyavila-o-partnerstve-s-emercoin
http://digitalmoneytimes.com/openledger-decentralizes-fintech-exchange-concept
http://coinwelt.de/2016/03/openledger-schafft-erstes-dezentrales-konglomerat
http://bitcoinnewsindo.com/bitcoin-3-0-teknologi-bitshares-sebagai-openledger-pertama-di-dunia-desentralisasi-konglomerat
http://www.8btc.com/ccedk-bitshares-openledger
http://www.bitcoinnews.com.br/bitcoinbrasil/crie-criptomoedas-respaldadas-com-garantias-do-mundo-real-no-blockchain-descentralizado-da-openledger
https://www.okcoin.cn/t-1013311.html
http://www.bitcoinisle.com/2016/04/05/bitland-to-bring-blockchain-to-free-up-locked-capital-in-ghana-with-land-surveys
http://www.livebitcoinnews.com/openledger-officially-launched-to-be-operational-soon
http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/obits-positions-bright-future-openledger-bts-2-0/
http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/ccedk-launch-obits-openledger
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/11/28/bitcoin-exchange-ramps-up-obits-cryptocurrency-profits-for-future-buyback/#69ac80f11052
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/01/19/obits-announces-first-buyback-dividend-option-and-fiat-gateway-on-openledger
http://bitscan.com/articles/a-token-of-appreciation-openledger-launches-obits
https://coinreport.net/ccedk-launches-obits-to-reward-holders-with-share-of-revenues
http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/12/19/exclusive-newsbtc-interviews-ronny-boesing-from-ccedk-and-obits/
http://cointelegraph.com/news/new-profit-potential-from-ccedks-new-currency-obits
http://bitcoinist.net/bloggers-club-bitcoins-paid-out
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/11/15/sharebits-ios-launch-bringing-crypto-technology-to-mass-market-solutions/#4720e04335aa
http://bitcoinist.net/sharebits-io-social-media-crypto-sharing
http://www.maxkeiser.com/2016/02/sharebits-gives-bitcoin-users-another-way-to-tip-on-twitter
http://digitalmoneytimes.com/sharebits-io-aims-bring-crypto-technology-masses
http://bitscan.com/articles/kickstarting-the-sharing-economy-with-sharebits.io
http://www.econotimes.com/Blockchain-Based-Platform-ShareBits-To-Revolutionize-Conventional-Marketing-164117
http://allcoinsnews.com/2016/02/19/ccedk-beyond-bitcoin-founders-launch-crypto-tipping-app-on-bitshares-2-0-platfrom
http://cryptocurrencymagazine.com/sollywood-tv-renewal-cable-tv-use-blockchain
http://bitcoinist.net/sollywood-disrupt-cable-blockchain
http://www.bitcoinnews.com.br/bitcoinbrasil/projeto-new-money-da-sollywood-tv-pretende-causar-a-disrupcao-do-setor-de-tv-a-cabo-usando-a-tecnologia-blockchain
http://bitcoinnewses.com/bitcoinespanol/sollywood-tv-projecto
http://allcoinsnews.com/2016/03/25/new-money-project-sollywood-tv-aims-to-disrupt-cable-tv-sector-using-blockchain-technology
http://criptonoticias.com/proyecto-new-money-sollywood-tv-disrupcion-television-cable-tecnologia-blockchain
http://bitcoinist.net/bitteaser-to-share-profits-with-new-token-program
http://criptonoticias.com/bitteaser-btsr
http://cryptocurrencymagazine.com/how-to-buy-btsr-bitteaser
http://www.econotimes.com/First-Round-Of-Sale-Of-New-Digital-Token-BTSR-Launched-165594
http://bitcoinnewsarabia.com/page/3
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/04/05/bitlands-african-blockchain-initiative-putting-land-on-the-ledger/#20bf0da51029
http://bitscan.com/articles/bitland-putting-land-on-the-ledger-in-ghana


BitShares and its assets are constantly promoted through articles about other assets on BTS 2. platform OpenLedger

writing about OpenLedger, OBITS, BTSR, BitTeaser, Solcerts, Bitland Cadastrals, Emercoin, ShareBits,

Which other 3rd party partner is doing the same for BitShares, and yes Openledger gets its users via bitshares.org also, but metaexchange and blocktrades as well as transwiser are also getting themselves promoted via being on Openledger, and I dont see any of them promoting OpenLedger in anthing they do, but see instead BitShares mentioned as often as possible.

All I am saying here, is that I dont care if other parties are mentioned in a clear way for users to see also, but I dont like that OpenLedger is put away in a forum heavily depending on its succes as part of bringing bts to the mainstream acceptance.

I definietly dislike having OpenLedger put way and then found under a subforum in same level as partners still sleeping an not yet active whethe they will be or not, it is a bad signal to send to all new users, when most of them come to forum based on the media articles where BitShares are mentioned 9,8 times out of 10.

I see your point, but when you advertise  "OpenLedger, which is a decentralized financial platform - in fact, the de facto BitShares 2.0 platform", you are kinda taking on the responsibility of promoting everything for and about Bitshares. You can't be the "de facto Bitshares 2.0 platform" and be separate at the same time.

Quote from: Pheonike on April 13, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
I see your point, but when you advertise  "OpenLedger, which is a decentralized financial platform - in fact, the de facto BitShares 2.0 platform", you are kinda taking on the responsibility of promoting everything for and about Bitshares. You can't be the "de facto Bitshares 2.0 platform" and be separate at the same time.

I never thought I was separate in fact, this is why I dont get why Openledger is not put out there more than it is. I dont have any problems promoting Bitshares as it clearly shows, but in return I am not shown the same appreciation on forum of what i am in fact supposed to be promoting, so all my work of promoting bitshares is in fact giving in some ways a negative effect as users not finding OpenLedger may think that what is mentioned in articles is not all correct and they get the wrong feeling from day 1.

I was asked from Stan once if OpenLedger is neutral and meant as a BitShares platform, and I said yes I believed it to be a Bitshare platform with the focus of giving bts the best possible conditions in future, and in order to bring the message out to the initial masses of other crypto minded people as first step to mainstream acceptance it is sometimes wise to present a neutral name like OpenLedger for easier access and quicker acceptance. Then you can always speak about BitShares once they have entered the door and felt the furniture.

The quickest way to mainstream acceptance is not a straight road, and although I do believe in cutting corners, it is all in all a lengthy process.

On top of all, the assets promoted are all allowing an increasing amount of bts to be used for the good of the network, all are part of the BTS platform therefore promoting same everytime a new user buys these assets after having signed up, well some even buy the assets before signing up, but all in all everything promoted here is promoting bitshares.

Quote from: ccedk on April 13, 2016, 10:01:39 PM

Quote from: Pheonike on April 13, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
I see your point, but when you advertise  "OpenLedger, which is a decentralized financial platform - in fact, the de facto BitShares 2.0 platform", you are kinda taking on the responsibility of promoting everything for and about Bitshares. You can't be the "de facto Bitshares 2.0 platform" and be separate at the same time.

I never thought I was separate in fact, this is why I dont get why Openledger is not put out there more than it is. I dont have any problems promoting Bitshares as it clearly shows, but in return I am not shown the same appreciation on forum of what i am in fact supposed to be promoting, so all my work of promoting bitshares is in fact giving in some ways a negative effect as users not finding OpenLedger may think that what is mentioned in articles is not all correct and they get the wrong feeling from day 1.

I was asked from Stan once if OpenLedger is neutral and meant as a BitShares platform, and I said yes I believed it to be a Bitshare platform with the focus of giving bts the best possible conditions in future, and in order to bring the message out to the initial masses of other crypto minded people as first step to mainstream acceptance it is sometimes wise to present a neutral name like OpenLedger for easier access and quicker acceptance. Then you can always speak about BitShares once they have entered the door and felt the furniture.

The quickest way to mainstream acceptance is not a straight road, and although I do believe in cutting corners, it is all in all a lengthy process.

On top of all, the assets promoted are all allowing an increasing amount of bts to be used for the good of the network, all are part of the BTS platform therefore promoting same everytime a new user buys these assets after having signed up, well some even buy the assets before signing up, but all in all everything promoted here is promoting bitshares.

You are doing a great job Ronnie. I guess it has never been clear what the relationship is between Bitshares and Openledger. Is Openledger a rebrand of Bitshares? Is it the frontend for Bitshares? Is it independent from Bitshares? What is the role of wallet.bitshares.org? How does OL relate to other ventures? How do other projects relate to OL such as Metaexchange, BlockTrades? Does OL represent Bitshares when dealing with other entities such as CoinsBank. Is OL involved the technical development of Bitshares or just marketing? When there there are technicals issues in OL who is repsonsible Cryptonomex, Blocktrades, the community as a whole. Is CCEDK just a gateway for OL?

So as you can see, there are lots of questions with no clear answers (as least so far). So it's not a question of your intentions, it's trying to understand how the pieces fit together so we can be  ore efficient. Example, You just put a video of how to deposit/withdraw btc from OL. Hours later SVK is saying the next update will move the depsot/withdarw to the top menu. Seems like we wasting resources and time by not knowing how all this should be working.

I think attacking Ronny is like attacking someone in Augur for making their own marketing and not mentioning Ethereum in every sentence.

Great job Ronney! Please continue to work as you are working now and making (as I see it) the best Bitshares marketing anyone has ever did.

Also other people please stop attacking. Ronny is first real user of BTS. Do you understand that point of Bitshares is to have 3000 Ronnys or even more? Jezzz this community is full of hate!

Sell your BTS negative people!!! Buyers are always waiting!

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Quote from: Pheonike on April 13, 2016, 10:43:54 PM
Example, You just put a video of how to deposit/withdraw btc from OL. Hours later SVK is saying the next update will move the depsot/withdarw to the top menu. Seems like we wasting resources and time by not knowing how all this should be working.

You hit the nail right spot on. I noticed this a well, and had to think twice what it is I am spending money on. Work is being done on Ol which I have no idea about, fair enough, but in the same time lots of other people are expecting us to solve everything. I know that we have been slo in builing all, but this is anyways how you make sure not to make too many mistakes, and the fact that we have a change now coming from nowhere at least from my perspective although I heard people talking about it, it is just waste of money.

so I agree, and we need really asap to start getting someone to coordinate all efforts.

I will be starting a slack channel one of coming days to cover lots of this in a direct approach. I hope to see as many people as possible join me in my crusade for mainstream adaption of BTS and OpenLedger as one of hopefully more progressive tools to get us there.

Quote from: Pheonike on April 13, 2016, 10:43:54 PM
You are doing a great job Ronnie. I guess it has never been clear what the relationship is between Bitshares and Openledger. Is Openledger a rebrand of Bitshares? Is it the frontend for Bitshares? Is it independent from Bitshares? What is the role of wallet.bitshares.org? How does OL relate to other ventures? How do other projects relate to OL such as Metaexchange, BlockTrades? Does OL represent Bitshares when dealing with other entities such as CoinsBank. Is OL involved the technical development of Bitshares or just marketing? When there there are technicals issues in OL who is repsonsible Cryptonomex, Blocktrades, the community as a whole. Is CCEDK just a gateway for OL?

So as you can see, there are lots of questions with no clear answers (as least so far). So it's not a question of your intentions, it's trying to understand how the pieces fit together so we can be  ore efficient. Example, You just put a video of how to deposit/withdraw btc from OL. Hours later SVK is saying the next update will move the depsot/withdarw to the top menu. Seems like we wasting resources and time by not knowing how all this should be working.

Here's what I originally announced about it...

Quote from: Stan on June 16, 2015, 12:07:03 PM
The BitShares Blockchain now has a whole new purpose.

Not only is it a second generation coin containing a decentralized exchange that produces smart-currency products...
Now it's also a transparent inter-company network letting exchanges give their customers and assets trading access to customers and assets on other exchanges.

Instead of competing with traditional exchanges,
we are multiplying the markets they can enjoy by networking with each other.

Here's the details about why this is revolutionary:

Quote from: Stan on June 15, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
Now that you've had time to absorb all the cool new features in BitShares 2.0, its time to start unveiling some of the implications about what is possible.  In this post, I'll lay out one of them.

The BitShares Smartchain can serve as a backbone
to support live trading between traditional exchanges. 

Now, instead of having separate shallow markets inside their own stovepipe order books, they can use BitShares to enable all their customers to trade all their assets with the customers and assets of other exchanges.  Small exchanges can band together to attract medium exchanges to join them to compete with still bigger exchanges.  Like a rolling stone.

This greatly expands the network effect, liquidity and market depth of all participants.  A bigger pie for everyone.

And with our new referral system, every participating exchange keeps their own profits from signing up their own customers and issuing their own assets.

We have the perfect way for them to safely compete and cooperate on a single, compelling, transparent exchange network.

The BitShares Exchange Network.

So, exchanges can do more than just serve as gateways and bridges.
They can publish their own order books transparently on our Smartchain.

So everyone can KNOW that they are honest and solvent.

And every customer holds the keys to their own assets, fully decentralized where they won't be such juicy targets for hackers.
With easy to use multi-sig accounts to make those decentralized accounts even more secure.

BitShares 2.0 has the industrial strength to handle the workload of all member crypto exchanges combined.
It is the perfect application to serve as an inter exchange networking back bone.
(Almost like we planned it that way.)

Yeah, but it will never happen, right?

Not so fast! Check out this week's Big BitShares Announcement!

CCEDK.com will put its exchange on a transparent Smartchain offering to trade with other exchanges there.
(And provide them fiat ramps and crypto-aware debit card support in the mix.)

Read their news release here. (https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/16/danish-firm-set-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry/)

That's great Stan, why isn't any of this mentioned anywhere on the bitshares.org or Openledger.info? How is someone suppose to know that? Information like should be on the  site somewhere instead of buried in the forums where no one will ever find it.  It's seem the bitshares homepage is more of a graphene homepage. This is the information that should be on the bitshare.org sense it actually describes how the exchange works. The graphene info should been on separate page or have a site dedicated to it.  This why people are always confused about what bitshares is. It's an exchange, but it doesn't function like a typical exchange.

Would it be possible to add a little script where the link to OL contains a random ref?

Ref pool would be everyone with a set bts id in their profile

Quote from: fav on April 14, 2016, 05:35:12 AM
Would it be possible to add a little script where the link to OL contains a random ref?

Ref pool would be everyone with a set bts id in their profile

That is a great idea. 

Btw, @fav could you please take off the committee update sticky?  Seems updates will not be going there.