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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: bitcoinerS on July 20, 2014, 10:29:26 am
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Lets swap votes. You vote for my delegate bitcoiners and I will vote for yours. 8)
I will even throw in 10 Stars to sweeten the deal.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/A_giant,_smouldering_star.jpg)
1. Vote for this list of delegates.
2. Reply to this thread with your delegate name.
3. I will add you to this list, vote for you and send you 10 Stars.
Current list of vote swappers
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal
wallet_approve_delegate bitcoiners
wallet_approve_delegate bits
wallet_approve_delegate blockchainer
wallet_approve_delegate cryptomoon
wallet_approve_delegate slavix
wallet_approve_delegate jabbajabba
wallet_approve_delegate kpd-1
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-1
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-1
wallet_approve_delegate liondani
wallet_approve_delegate spartako
wallet_approve_delegate ninja
wallet_approve_delegate dele-puppy
wallet_approve_delegate enki
wallet_approve_delegate betax
wallet_approve_delegate scroodge
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Sounds good!
I don't understand... who is behind those initXX delegates?
We need to diversify, to strengthen the network. I did pretty much 100% reliability during the test network. Yet I get almost no votes on the live one. Am I doing something wrong?
clout - I like you, but is it really necessary to run 5 delegates? It is giving the impression that this is a VERY centralized effort to the outsiders/newcomers.
I know it's early days, but this needs to be adjusted.
Cheers!
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+5%
i created a few delegates because they were cheap :)
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Seems unfair advantage that init delegates start with more than 3% votings. Other ideas and businesses have to do it the hard way. >:(
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I can't tell if my votes for other count or not... I have a decent size BTSX, yet, when I vote for someone, they barely move.
However I noticed that if I send BTSX directly to my actual delegate account - it suddenly has a lot of votes (but still not nearly enough!)
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My delegate name is in my signature :)
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Lets trade votes. You vote for my delegate and I will vote for yours. 8)
Reply to this thread with your delegate name.
This sounds good. I'm game.
If I understand correctly, you can vote for 33 delegates before your votes become essentially diluted. Is that correct? Edit: Evidently the limit is 101
I put together a list of 33 spots and I've added at least 1 delegate for everyone who has replyed to this tread. I will be voting the following list and will update with any new replys who hopefully honor at least part of the same voting list. Until I get 33 individuals to fill up the list, I've added upto 5 of some delegates multiple accounts.
Let me know if I'm confused about the 33 votes, or if I've missed you etc. Edit: I was confused
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal
wallet_approve_delegate bitcoiners
wallet_approve_delegate jabbajabba
wallet_approve_delegate kpd-1
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-1
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-1
wallet_approve_delegate liondani
wallet_approve_delegate spartako
wallet_approve_delegate ninja
wallet_approve_delegate dele-puppy
wallet_approve_delegate riverhead-del-server-1
wallet_approve_delegate delegate.xeldal
wallet_approve_delegate delegate.xeldal2
wallet_approve_delegate delegate.xeldal3
wallet_approve_delegate ninja1
wallet_approve_delegate ninja2
wallet_approve_delegate ninja3
wallet_approve_delegate spartako1
wallet_approve_delegate spartako2
wallet_approve_delegate spartako3
wallet_approve_delegate enki
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-2
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-3
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-4
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-5
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-2
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-3
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-4
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-5
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal2
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal3
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal4
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal5
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>> wallet_approve_delegate xeldal
Delegate approved.
>> wallet_approve_delegate jabbajabba true
Delegate approved.
>> wallet_approve_delegate kpd-1 true
Delegate approved.
>> wallet_approve_delegate bitcoiners true
Delegate approved.
all from xeroc + all charity's
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I just voted for this list
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal
wallet_approve_delegate bitcoiners
wallet_approve_delegate jabbajabba
wallet_approve_delegate kpd-1
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-1
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-1
wallet_approve_delegate liondani
wallet_approve_delegate enki
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-2
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-3
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-4
wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-5
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-2
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-3
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-4
wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-5
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal2
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal3
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal4
wallet_approve_delegate xeldal
wallet_approve_delegate spartako
wallet_approve_delegate spartako1
wallet_approve_delegate spartako2
wallet_approve_delegate spartako3
Please add some spartakos ;)
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Voted!
Please vote for ninja
wallet_approve_delegate ninja true
wallet_approve_delegate ninja1 true
wallet_approve_delegate ninja2 true
wallet_approve_delegate ninja3 true
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Remember to make a transaction with all your BTSX after the wallet_approve_delegate commands like this (otherwise you aren't voting):
wallet_transfer 100000 BTSX spartako spartako
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voted for spartako, ninja, bitccoiners, xeldal, jabbajabba, xeroc, and Krabby. I would love a chance to produce some blocks and show my stuff.
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I suggest not voting now but when the delegate list is complete, everyone will make a big transaction with all their BTSX at the same time.
Now the threshold for entering in the first 101 is 0.3271075597%, I think in this way we will be able to become all active delegates.
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Votet just for you guys:
jabbajabba * BTSX7X9joebNDHaoZKB5psoDyhXyvnGLqSpyQ2AqYohBnTSkTdsNWv 2014-07-19T15:41:50 NO 1
kpd-1 * BTSX5wrbPFxtcK6JXt3ztkFf7qznfjnhQwQXeTmWzY7AnzVnwYPpF4 2014-07-19T20:10:30 NO 1
liondani * BTSX6zT2XD7YXJpAPyRKq8Najz4R5ut3tVMEfK8hqUdLBbBRjTjjKy 2014-07-19T18:29:00 NO 1
ninja * BTSX7dK8Tyg2MnPdKYDniHRoh4UunbmVefAkxPktvERiQmLoRhMDn3 2014-07-20T05:14:50 NO 1
ninja1 * BTSX5kCmCwpVa1cJKcSh4tFYMnkeG3s68415S1rSquFy2VreSyUgD6 2014-07-20T14:51:10 NO 1
ninja2 * BTSX6Gk5tEFZV3mL7CgkfMzLmHVwAZ2J8SsNhs9i6kYdo5cufJVWya 2014-07-20T14:53:00 NO 1
spartako * BTSX5mgup8evDqMnT86L7scVebRYDC2fwAWmygPEUL43LjstQegYCC 2014-07-19T18:00:20 NO 1
spartako1 * BTSX5Ar4j53kFWuEZQ9XhxbAja4YXMPJ2EnUg5QcrdeMFYUNMMNJbe 2014-07-19T18:01:50 NO 1
spartako2 * BTSX64P4Tij8F4CEvAiS9bheNs9vGoUESjKT61Va6cdoHGVsBMtN1H 2014-07-19T18:01:50 NO 1
spartako3 * BTSX5YBj8AAvPoEr5Z8dcLMs4EskbPC2VDzJnJsqeWRQWZyb1VrwhK 2014-07-19T18:01:50 NO 1
xeldal * BTSX7RYcutQ5eZdTFL4a9unumbauoVzAa5XSgiQWXucPVn9C2sm7dM 2014-07-19T19:01:40 NO 1
xeldal2 * BTSX5CP7rEFxyEm8i8XWyTp3bMDScuaq2Ud1k9K4uGqyk74YEx5juo 2014-07-19T19:11:20 NO 1
xeldal3 * BTSX7CRb5zVxSpFg1d3DusexuUboc9As3efTZCXKsKtzBAfrKWcqb2 2014-07-19T19:11:40 NO 1
xeldal4 * BTSX7Hn5nqQfCsRaKuH5LhhJB7JSnogabcmrv5aaZpr8yQZ9cCTP2V 2014-07-19T19:11:50 NO 1
xeroc-delegate-1 * BTSX7dJoXqDatFan2oe3tSUD6ZJEhDnUGcMf3dkWXRuTGumejFZt4P 2014-07-19T18:55:10 NO 1
xeroc-delegate-2 * BTSX5yQgqNovC1Ergu1K7Eu5psfJYT5g17iHzTammJboeoHhVKPuYs 2014-07-19T18:55:10 NO 1
xeroc-delegate-3 * BTSX7sL6wHbQC7Bu7QGf74sdEq4NuPT8g5iWfDeA7Pkvy46ZGY3nAz 2014-07-19T18:55:10 NO 1
xeroc-delegate-4 * BTSX7Nk1NmUVX2BFTj5PjMb4Xo27cLEFy5yvmZh65mWDXovgmHZa1a 2014-07-19T18:55:10 NO 1
bitcoiners * BTSX5rq5GS4q1a3TRMMekFtTf9DkKfA8urJTQPuk7Dje9HvkCALfUB 2014-07-19T19:49:50 NO 1
calabiyau * BTSX6EU8sAqbiXk9Xw8yidyrghhPUhAhyRZQRLG9LsdZRNHJrgKt2p 2014-07-19T00:00:00 NO 1
enki * BTSX7k4imfxnj6c9zkGHd2PhJHDtLmuPNJeoTNxN54FVye58qPihWo 2014-07-19T20:43:50 NO 1
wallet_transfer 200000 BTSX founder founder
Please vote for happyshares and get rebate!
Jump in at https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5775.0
wallet_approve delegate happyshares-1 true
wallet_approve delegate happyshares-2 true
wallet_approve delegate happyshares-3 true
wallet_approve delegate happyshares-4 true
wallet_approve delegate happyshares-5 true
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Lets trade votes. You vote for my delegate bitcoiners and I will vote for yours. 8)
I will even throw in 10 Stars to sweeten the deal.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/A_giant,_smouldering_star.jpg)
Reply to this thread with your delegate name.
Not only 99% of you are greedy bastards (collecting 100% of the fee), but you also swap votes to do so!
Vote for delegate nogreedydelegatesintop100
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Lets trade votes. You vote for my delegate bitcoiners and I will vote for yours. 8)
I will even throw in 10 Stars to sweeten the deal.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/A_giant,_smouldering_star.jpg)
Reply to this thread with your delegate name.
Not only 99% of you are greedy bastards (collecting 100% of the fee), but you also swap votes to do so!
Vote for delegate nogreedydelegatesintop100
You presume to know what we intend to do with collect fees.
Only one of my delegates will spend income on coke and hookers. :o
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You presume to know what we intend to do with collect fees.
Only one of my delegates will spend income on coke and hookers. :o
Let me guess… it would be the sole owner of them!
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Not to mention, not one of us currently has a single delegate in the top 101.
I haven't seen any comments from you about the more than 60% of current delegates seeming controlled by 1 individual or group with the same 100% fee collection. There's at least another 2 that control another 20% again at the same 100% fee collection.
Your comment is perhaps a little miss guided?
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Not to mention, not one of us currently has a single delegate in the top 101.
my delegate is on second slot currently
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Not to mention, not one of us currently has a single delegate in the top 101.
my delegate is on second slot currently
And the ONLY one with less then 100% fee...
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Not to mention, not one of us currently has a single delegate in the top 101.
my delegate is on second slot currently
And the ONLY one with less then 100% fee...
nope i saw 2 or 3 in the top 101 with 80 %
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Not to mention, not one of us currently has a single delegate in the top 101.
my delegate is on second slot currently
And the ONLY one with less then 100% fee...
so I missed one, gratz jabbajabba
I'd be willing to bet that the 50% pay rate has little to nothing to do with his placement.
In fact I've change my delegate xeldal to 50%. Lets see if it has any effect.
I don't expect this to change anything, but I'd be delighted to be wrong.
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Also all spartakos moved to 50%....so Simeon II please vote for notgreedydelegatesintop100
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Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.
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Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.
I do not know where you live, but in this country we have seen a lot of politicians claiming to know how to spend our money better than us.
Most of the time the money not spend for themselves/given to friends are used for starting a war or two with random country.
So, I personally am not voting for any delegate with over about 15% pay rate, period.
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From what I've read the pay rate percentage isn't how much you keep vs return to the market it's how much you keep vs "destroy to reduce supply". So it's not like if you're at 50% you're being less greedy (in the short term). You're just reducing the number of BTSX by destroying half the transaction fees you earned. This will likely increase the value of each BTSX in a classic supply/demand sense I guess.
Someone correct me if I've misunderstood this.
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From what I've read the pay rate percentage isn't how much you keep vs return to the market it's how much you keep vs "destroy to reduce supply". So it's not like if you're at 50% you're being less greedy (in the short term). You're just reducing the number of BTSX by destroying half the transaction fees you earned. This will likely increase the value of each BTSX in a classic supply/demand sense I guess.
Someone correct me if I've misunderstood this.
Corrected as requested!
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From what I've read the pay rate percentage isn't how much you keep vs return to the market it's how much you keep vs "destroy to reduce supply". So it's not like if you're at 50% you're being less greedy (in the short term). You're just reducing the number of BTSX by destroying half the transaction fees you earned. This will likely increase the value of each BTSX in a classic supply/demand sense I guess.
Someone correct me if I've misunderstood this.
Corrected as requested!
What did you change? It looks the same to me. Or was I mid edit when you posted the quote?
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No just I feel too lazy to explain the effect of destroying transaction fees…
If you do not want to figure it yourself out, the topic should be discussed (in this forum including).
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Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.
I do not know where you live, but in this country we have seen a lot of politicians claiming to know how to spend our money better than us.
Most of the time the money not spend for themselves/given to friends are used for starting a war or two with random country.
So, I personally am not voting for any delegate with over about 15% pay rate, period.
That's fine, I don't blame you. That is a perfectly reasonable stance. I would not vote for a delegate who proposes to start wars either.
What I'm saying is, my vote for a delegate who chooses to donate 85% of his 100% income towards something I would be interested in donating to anyways, like say the bitshares development team, serves my interest more than a delegate who donates their 85% equally to everyone, people i don't support included.
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Pay rate is an interesting topic.
The delegates that I and other two forum members are running destroy 20% of the fees for each, more over we will give back 30% of the fees to the community.
Any suggestion ?
Our election post:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5862.0
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Personally I would prefer a delegate with 100% pay who has a solid targeted plan to use that income wisely, rather than one with 0% pay who is essentially targeting everyone equally.
I do not know where you live, but in this country we have seen a lot of politicians claiming to know how to spend our money better than us.
Most of the time the money not spend for themselves/given to friends are used for starting a war or two with random country.
So, I personally am not voting for any delegate with over about 15% pay rate, period.
There are a couple of people I might trust with a 100% rake, but that's gonna be few and far between. Other than that I agree with Simeon, and his parallel with politics. I say lower taxes is the solution.
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This is the story of a fisherman who walked every day by the sea, casting a net and asking the Lord for a good catch. One day he took out their networks and what to see - a human eye. The fisherman took the eye and took it to the king, showed their catches and announced that he wanted to sell it. The king asked him the price of the eye, and the fisherman replied that it would cost as much gold as it weighs eye. Put the eye on the instrument, and the other began to put gold - Put kg, two, three, five, ten, but the scale of the eye never risen. The eye stayed still heavier. King wondered what to do and called a wise man to advise him. The sage gave the following advice to resolve the situation in which a human eye weighs more than all the gold of the king "should be put on the eye a little dust." By eye threw dust, then squinted and then journeyed up.
All gasped, and the sage said, "Sometimes you have to help yourself, dear pollen mesh to satisfy, or what you want, what you want ... It's nice to do, but one is loaded with unnecessary desires. Every moment of life is an opportunity to achieve our human desires, but in a moment we need very little.
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Voted for all on current vote swaps list and updated.
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I voted all on this thread and not only. I will soon reveal my voting list ;)
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I voted all on this thread and not only. I will soon reveal my voting list ;)
Add me to the list and reveal it so I can do the voting.
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I voted all on this thread and not only. I will soon reveal my voting list ;)
Dare to share why?
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Dare to share why?
Because he can and obviously want to .. or maybe "just because" .. it's like an act of freedom!?
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Dare to share why?
Because he can and obviously want to .. or maybe "just because" .. it's like an act of freedom!?
Great, I get it.
All we need is ... $$$ and we have the freedom to get them.
Understandable!
I will personally try to never vote for 'Delegate vote swaps' participant, but feel free to do so!
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Due to a misunderstanding of the deterministic nature of TITAN I had to recreate my dedicated delegate server wallet.
If you had voted for riverheaddelserv1 already please recast your vote for riverhead-del-server-1 (still at 5% pay rate).
Thanks!
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I voted all on this thread and not only. I will soon reveal my voting list ;)
Dare to share why?
>> wallet_account_vote_summary
DELEGATE VOTES
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bitcoiners 33593346
bts500 30000000
bts500dao 30000000
bts500rmb 30000000
bts500usd 30000000
charity-delegate-1 30000000
charity-delegate-2 30000000
charity-delegate-3 30000000
charity-delegate-4 30000000
charity-delegate-5 33603346
charity-delegate-6 30000000
charity-delegate-7 30000000
charity-delegate-8 33603346
charity-delegate-9 30000000
chinese 30000000
clout-delegate2 30000000
crazybit 30000000
dele-puppy 30000000
dxtr 30000000
ebit 30000000
enki 30000000
fffgreek 3593346
fox 30000000
happyshares-1 30000000
init21 30000000
init27 30000000
init94 30000000
jabbajabba 33593346
kpd-1 30000000
lion 30000000
liondan-delegate-1 33603346
liondani 33603346
liondani-delegate-1 33603346
liondani-delegate-2 33603346
liondani-delegate-3 33603346
liondani-delegate-4 33603346
liondani-delegate-5 33603346
liondani-delegate-6 33593346
liondani-linux 33603346
liondaniel 33593346
ninja 30000000
raven 30000000
spartako 30000000
spartako1 33593346
spartako2 30000000
spartako3 30000000
webber-delegate 30000000
xeldal 30000000
xeldal2 30000000
xeldal3 30000000
xeldal4 30000000
xeroc-delegate-1 33603346
xeroc-delegate-2 33603346
xeroc-delegate-3 33603346
xeroc-delegate-4 33603346
xeroc-delegate-5 33603346
xeroc-delegate-6 33603346
xeroc-delegate-7 33603346
xeroc-delegate-8 33603346
xeroc-delegate-9 33603346
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Vote for scroodge pls!
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate xeldal
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate bitcoiners
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate bits
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate blockchainer
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate cryptomoon
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate slavix
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate jabbajabba
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate kpd-1
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate happyshares-1
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate xeroc-delegate-1
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate liondani
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate spartako
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate ninja
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate dele-puppy
Delegate approved.
dxtr-wallet (unlocked) >>> wallet_approve_delegate enki
Delegate approved.
Right now I'm transfering my funds to me, so vote stats get updated accordingly.
Edit: Votes should be updated now.
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just to inform you, I have reduced my pay rate to +5% ;)
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From this list all but slavix and scroodge have not get into the top 101 list.
From those who were voted in ninja and betax haven't produced a single block.
Can you, BTSX whale, reconsider your support and vote for scroodge, who has successfully participated in Dry Runs?
Yes, I have my doubts about starting this too early, but hopefully I'm wrong. :)
I promise, that if I make some money out of this (more than to cover bills to run a delegate),
I'll translate and publish on a webpage some articles in order to attract polish investors.
And I will do some give-away actions for the readers to try it out themselves.
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Bloody hell - I had turned off production, because of the wallet transfer issue. I got elected in the meantime I've set production to on now, but my stats are terrible just because of that.
I should have close to 100% reliability from here on now. It would be nice if setting production off, releases your slot temporarily to others who are eager to produce blocks.
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It would be nice if setting production off, releases your slot temporarily to others who are eager to produce blocks.
+1 +1 +1
thats a very good idea!!!
It should help for maintenance periods, or to deactivate them due knowing problems and give the opportunity to stand-by delegates to participate!!!
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It would be nice if setting production off, releases your slot temporarily to others who are eager to produce blocks.
+1 +1 +1
thats a very good idea!!!
It should help for maintenance periods, or to deactivate them due knowing problems and give the opportunity to stand-by delegates to participate!!!
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6013.msg80682#msg80682
I think I got a better idea here.
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It would be nice if setting production off, releases your slot temporarily to others who are eager to produce blocks.
+1 +1 +1
thats a very good idea!!!
It should help for maintenance periods, or to deactivate them due knowing problems and give the opportunity to stand-by delegates to participate!!!
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6013.msg80682#msg80682
I think I got a better idea here.
Yep I like the way you think... In fact I made a proposal in past, that has similaritys with your idea :)
Please check the first link .... Now we are 2 with identical ideas... lets convince the community... so we can pressure bytemaster :)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5569.msg74886#msg74886 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5569.msg74886#msg74886)
and take a look also here...
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4009.msg59537#msg59537 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4009.msg59537#msg59537)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5317.0 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5317.0)
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Well we have to keep in mind any change takes engineering effort to do and could introduce other issues, so I understand where Bytemaster is coming from, he wants to keep it simple and efficient. But I thought that since they are planning on a hard fork we take these things into consideration
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Well we have to keep in mind any change takes engineering effort to do and could introduce other issues, so I understand where Bytemaster is coming from, he wants to keep it simple and efficient. But I thought that since they are planning on a hard fork we take these things into consideration
we have nothing to loose discusing about these topics...
some times good ideas come out, our at least we can inspire bytemaster to come with something better out...
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Of course. Now is the best time to discuss, before the hard fork. my point was no matter what the community brainstorms it will be on Dan and team to find what is the best way to integrate such solution in the existing project. So I understand them being reluctant to changes.