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Main => Stakeholder Proposals => Topic started by: Shentist on November 02, 2014, 10:02:19 pm

Title: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: Shentist on November 02, 2014, 10:02:19 pm
I would like to know why some delegates don't provide feeds?

- if there is no technical reason you should take action to post feeds.

maybe we could include rules to exclude none posting delegates as active delegates. At the moment delegates have 2 important jobs. 1) confirm the blocks 2) post feeds. Only feeds provide the possibility to trade on our blockchain, without feeds at the moment BTSX or BTS in the future looses purpose.
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: xeroc on November 02, 2014, 10:05:42 pm
FYI, i will continue not including delegates into my slate if they do not publish feeds
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 10:29:36 pm
FYI, i will continue not including delegates into my slate if they do not publish feeds

BM said that he would vote down these delegates who don't provide feeds, however, not yet done that.
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: Fox on November 03, 2014, 09:22:49 pm
BM said that he would vote down these delegates who don't provide feeds, however, not yet done that.

Currently there are 11 "init" delegates that are not producing blocks.  This is a reversal from when BitAssets was launched with bitUSD a number of weeks back.  It is my understanding these delegates are controlled by or closely aligned with the core development team.  Please help me understand why these delegates are choosing to no longer provide price feeds. 
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: xeroc on November 03, 2014, 09:27:10 pm
BM said that he would vote down these delegates who don't provide feeds, however, not yet done that.

Currently there are 11 "init" delegates that are not producing blocks.  This is a reversal from when BitAssets was launched with bitUSD a number of weeks back.  It is my understanding these delegates are controlled by or closely aligned with the core development team.  Please help me understand why these delegates are choosing to no longer provide price feeds.
They never did .. on purpose because they could (as they are held by one entity) manipulate the markets ..
remember that the market price at which shorts are executed is build from the MEDIAN of all price feeds .. 11 delegates can already influence that price.
Thus, DSL decided to not publish feeds and let others replace their spot over time
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: Shentist on November 09, 2014, 08:22:40 am
i hope the new dev delegates will replace init delegates and will provide feeds. this is really serious! without feeds this projects is gone. so publish now!
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: matt608 on November 10, 2014, 11:42:28 am
There are 35 delegates now not publishing any feeds!  Why?
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: Shentist on November 23, 2014, 07:21:11 pm
sry delegates!

i would remind all delegates without feeds to start publishing.

do you really feel save, if i just can't do shorts in bitEUR now, because we have to many delegates without EUR feeds?

we should come up with a solution, if we want to relay on pricefeeds. This is at the moment annoying, but in the future this could be a major problem.
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: iHashFury on December 06, 2014, 05:41:52 pm
sry delegates!

i would remind all delegates without feeds to start publishing.

do you really feel save, if i just can't do shorts in bitEUR now, because we have to many delegates without EUR feeds?

we should come up with a solution, if we want to relay on pricefeeds. This is at the moment annoying, but in the future this could be a major problem.

I have just set-up my price feeds https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7787.msg159042#msg159042

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Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: jsidhu on December 06, 2014, 06:00:58 pm
On it today im using windoze so had issues with getting the python feed program to run will figure it out
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: matt608 on December 06, 2014, 06:58:41 pm
My pricefeeds are ready so as soon I am elected they will go live and I will make sure they stay live.
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: santaclause102 on December 06, 2014, 07:18:13 pm
I would like to know why some delegates don't provide feeds?

- if there is no technical reason you should take action to post feeds.

maybe we could include rules to exclude none posting delegates as active delegates. At the moment delegates have 2 important jobs. 1) confirm the blocks 2) post feeds. Only feeds provide the possibility to trade on our blockchain, without feeds at the moment BTSX or BTS in the future looses purpose.
+5%
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: iHashFury on December 06, 2014, 07:27:50 pm
 
My pricefeeds are ready so as soon I am elected they will go live and I will make sure they stay live.
+5%
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: lafona on December 06, 2014, 07:54:09 pm
I think that not enough people view publishing feeds as a valuable service, almost like you need to be offering something above and beyond to be worth voting in. IMO a 3% delegate publishing feeds should be better than one that is not and a worthwhile improvement. I think there are a few people with delegates ready wanting to publish feeds if they can get voted in. Also, being able to publish feeds as a standby would be helpful, as a way to show you have the script ready.
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: mint chocolate chip on December 07, 2014, 12:23:54 am
sry delegates!

i would remind all delegates without feeds to start publishing.

do you really feel save, if i just can't do shorts in bitEUR now, because we have to many delegates without EUR feeds?

we should come up with a solution, if we want to relay on pricefeeds. This is at the moment annoying, but in the future this could be a major problem.

I have just set-up my price feeds https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7787.msg159042#msg159042
EUR BTC CNY GOLD USD

Why do we not have feeds for all the markets, bitEUR will be nice but what about the dozens of other possibilities???
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: iHashFury on December 08, 2014, 12:59:37 pm
sry delegates!

i would remind all delegates without feeds to start publishing.

do you really feel save, if i just can't do shorts in bitEUR now, because we have to many delegates without EUR feeds?

we should come up with a solution, if we want to relay on pricefeeds. This is at the moment annoying, but in the future this could be a major problem.


I have just set-up my price feeds https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7787.msg159042#msg159042
EUR BTC CNY GOLD USD

Why do we not have feeds for all the markets, bitEUR will be nice but what about the dozens of other possibilities???

I will be using xeroc/pytshares script soon to publish ALL
Title: Re: Delegates without feed - why do you not provide feeds?
Post by: iHashFury on December 08, 2014, 05:59:52 pm
sry delegates!

i would remind all delegates without feeds to start publishing.

do you really feel save, if i just can't do shorts in bitEUR now, because we have to many delegates without EUR feeds?

we should come up with a solution, if we want to relay on pricefeeds. This is at the moment annoying, but in the future this could be a major problem.

I have just set-up my price feeds https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7787.msg159042#msg159042
EUR BTC CNY GOLD USD

Why do we not have feeds for all the markets, bitEUR will be nice but what about the dozens of other possibilities???

delegate.ihashfury is now set-up to publish

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Thanks xeroc