https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHPYu2aQtlw
This is Stacey. She's a close friend and we're going to collaborate on a few videos intended on penetrating the /r/Bitcoin hive mind. I think I've come up with a great way to frame bitshares and with Stacey as the presenter, I'm hopeful it will get lots of upvotes and shares. When she says "I've been into Bitcoin from the beginning" she means since it got popular last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTlW102g7gcAnd ^^^this is why the op is a good idea lol
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Very personable, pretty and she's a presenter that has an interest in crypto, great!
I can definitely see her being able to put BitShares across in an intelligent yet entertaining & approachable way. She seems like the perfect choice. Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with!
No Fair... thats cheating! Everyone knows there are no hot girls in crypto!
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She seems like the perfect choice.
I think a female face like hers would attract a lot of attention from the crypto community (99% male).
Wtf is this? Bringing a female into the forums will do absolutely squat. If she is planning on helping MethodX team,that's fine. If this is a feeler to get her her own delegate, whether 3 or 100% I will not support that based on just because she is a "female".
Constantly looking off camera, drinking on camera and the "grab ass" clips at the end scream professional. /s Not to mention the contrived Bitcoin/BitShares interest for over a year, yet she is just getting involved through a guy hat has been here for a couple months.
Wtf is this? Bringing a female into the forums will do absolutely squat. If she is planning on helping MethodX team,that's fine. If this is a feeler to get her her own delegate, whether 3 or 100% I will not support that based on just because she is a "female".
Constantly looking off camera, drinking on camera and the "grab ass" clips at the end scream professional. /s Not to mention the contrived Bitcoin/BitShares interest for over a year, yet she is just getting involved through a guy hat has been here for a couple months.
Wtf is this? Bringing a female into the forums will do absolutely squat. If she is planning on helping MethodX team,that's fine. If this is a feeler to get her her own delegate, whether 3 or 100% I will not support that based on just because she is a "female".
Constantly looking off camera, drinking on camera and the "grab ass" clips at the end scream professional. /s Not to mention the contrived Bitcoin/BitShares interest for over a year, yet she is just getting involved through a guy hat has been here for a couple months.
Wtf is this? Bringing a female into the forums will do absolutely squat. If she is planning on helping MethodX team,that's fine. If this is a feeler to get her her own delegate, whether 3 or 100% I will not support that based on just because she is a "female".
Constantly looking off camera, drinking on camera and the "grab ass" clips at the end scream professional. /s Not to mention the contrived Bitcoin/BitShares interest for over a year, yet she is just getting involved through a guy hat has been here for a couple months.
The community isn't stupid... there's no way she would get a delegate just because she posted a video of her drinking wine. At least I hope not.
Kind of unsettling how all of a sudden the bitshare's leaders drop their professionalism to subtly hit on the first girl showing them interest.
I think it's more unsettling how some treat new people that enter the community. I could be wrong, that's just how I see it. If someone wants to participate, let's give them a chance to show what they can do. I'm not about to crap in anyone's cereal that's looking to donate resources. We are still allowed to have a little fun around here, right? Different strokes for a different folks I guess.
welcome to our community ,but personally I would not vote for her until see some contribution for BTS ecosystem ,
Delegate? How about we see how the first video does. This is just a fun thing we want to do and see what happens.
Nothing to loose I guess...
Hope the devs will not get distracted from coding to much...
Wtf is this? Bringing a female into the forums will do absolutely squat. If she is planning on helping MethodX team,that's fine. If this is a feeler to get her her own delegate, whether 3 or 100% I will not support that based on just because she is a "female".
Constantly looking off camera, drinking on camera and the "grab ass" clips at the end scream professional. /s Not to mention the contrived Bitcoin/BitShares interest for over a year, yet she is just getting involved through a guy hat has been here for a couple months.
I hope you don't treat all new volunteers with such a friendly welcome. It's great to see new faces joining the movement, let's see what's produced before we start raising pitchforks.
Alot of great ideas have come from nullstreet but I don't believe this is one of them.
To take someone that isn't well known to the crypto scene and try to integrate them and give them a voice and audience will be time consuming and pricey.It just doesn't make sense to me to try and take a unknown, educate her and help her grow a audience when their are many experienced people that would do the same job but don't have a pretty face. I mean this as delicately as possible but her best feature is that she is attractive.Her speaking skills don't appear to be wonderful and she doesn't poses a huge knowledge of crypto. Of all the idea's that have been brought up on nullstreet I just don't think this one is good enough to throw funds at.
Now with the above being said if she is donating her time and doesn't plan to run a delegate or receive any funds from delegates then welcome aboard volunteers are not only welcomed but appreciated :)
Theres a reason why commercials have glooking girls.. avg joes say hey i want that..
We are blinded by symmetry
Theres a reason why commercials have glooking girls.. avg joes say hey i want that..+5%
We are blinded by symmetry
Alot of great ideas have come from nullstreet but I don't believe this is one of them.
To take someone that isn't well known to the crypto scene and try to integrate them and give them a voice and audience will be time consuming and pricey.It just doesn't make sense to me to try and take a unknown, educate her and help her grow a audience when their are many experienced people that would do the same job but don't have a pretty face. I mean this as delicately as possible but her best feature is that she is attractive.Her speaking skills don't appear to be wonderful and she doesn't poses a huge knowledge of crypto. Of all the idea's that have been brought up on nullstreet I just don't think this one is good enough to throw funds at.
Now with the above being said if she is donating her time and doesn't plan to run a delegate or receive any funds from delegates then welcome aboard volunteers are not only welcomed but appreciated :)
I wonder you mistake the reality of marketing to a wider audience. Marketing is largely about dumbing down and making the product real and accessible. That isn't science - it's art. Most advertising is scripted by those who do understand the product to depth. Also, worth baring in mind that one approach will not catch all, so we need do need to push on all fronts.
Well I'd say marketing funds well spent, but do a more professional video next time. I have seen $5 fiverr videos that had more effort.Hah. It was just a quick candid hello. Prefect.
The best female spokesperson would be cute, sexy, and nerdy. The girl you want to marry, not the girl you call after midnight. More like the women on G4, and less like the women of GoDaddy. Obviously the wine drinking was just a harmless, fun intro, and not a serious marketing production. I think she fits the bill. Welcome aboard Stacey.
The best female spokesperson would be cute, sexy, and nerdy. The girl you want to marry, not the girl you call after midnight. More like the women on G4, and less like the women of GoDaddy. Obviously the wine drinking was just a harmless, fun intro, and not a serious marketing production. I think she fits the bill. Welcome aboard Stacey.
cute sexy and nerdy? Those are generally the ones that are "undercover" :P
cute sexy and nerdy? Those are generally the ones that are "undercover" :P
Also, judging by participation in this thread, I feel like they will succeed driving attention. ;)+5%
Look, attempting to guilt some dude into Bitshares because some chick on YouTube gave him spank bank material is not going to do what you want it to in the cryptocommunity. Reaching out beyond the cryptocommunity in this fashion will also fail. This is a serious thing with serious implications in the long term for all of us and potentially the world. Enticing boners to Bitshares is juvenile and retarded. This isn't your WoW guild or BF3 clan we are recruiting for. We are attempting to disrupt and replace Wall St., ForEx, Remittence, etc. Basically the entire global currency network and structure is just beyond Bitshares fingertips. It may take a few years just to touch that area legitimately and maybe a decade before there is any real grasp. A token figurehead appealing to sex deprived men will achieve nothing. You know why? Because they are already here, as determined by a lot of your responses. I can hear the mouth breathing through the interwebs in this forum thread.
Let's try and keep this thing classy. No infomercials either(I was against that too)!
If she's really here to just use her educated experience by way of team MethodX, great. Welcome, I look forward to your contribution.
Look, attempting to guilt some dude into Bitshares because some chick on YouTube gave him spank bank material is not going to do what you want it to in the cryptocommunity. Reaching out beyond the cryptocommunity in this fashion will also fail. This is a serious thing with serious implications in the long term for all of us and potentially the world. Enticing boners to Bitshares is juvenile and retarded. This isn't your WoW guild or BF3 clan we are recruiting for. We are attempting to disrupt and replace Wall St., ForEx, Remittence, etc. Basically the entire global currency network and structure is just beyond Bitshares fingertips. It may take a few years just to touch that area legitimately and maybe a decade before there is any real grasp. A token figurehead appealing to sex deprived men will achieve nothing. You know why? Because they are already here, as determined by a lot of your responses. I can hear the mouth breathing through the interwebs in this forum thread.
Let's try and keep this thing classy. No infomercials either(I was against that too)!
If she's really here to just use her educated experience by way of team MethodX, great. Welcome, I look forward to your contribution.
Alot of great ideas have come from nullstreet but I don't believe this is one of them.
To take someone that isn't well known to the crypto scene and try to integrate them and give them a voice and audience will be time consuming and pricey.It just doesn't make sense to me to try and take a unknown, educate her and help her grow a audience when their are many experienced people that would do the same job but don't have a pretty face. I mean this as delicately as possible but her best feature is that she is attractive.Her speaking skills don't appear to be wonderful and she doesn't poses a huge knowledge of crypto. Of all the idea's that have been brought up on nullstreet I just don't think this one is good enough to throw funds at.
Now with the above being said if she is donating her time and doesn't plan to run a delegate or receive any funds from delegates then welcome aboard volunteers are not only welcomed but appreciated :)
I wonder you mistake the reality of marketing to a wider audience. Marketing is largely about dumbing down and making the product real and accessible. That isn't science - it's art. Most advertising is scripted by those who do understand the product to depth. Also, worth baring in mind that one approach will not catch all, so we need do need to push on all fronts.
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The reality is she talked about her portfolio on fiverr. I'm not speaking to her financial situation, but she obviously doesn't mind doing this sort of work cheaply to receive exposure. If she wants to have a few glasses of wine, produce a clip, and see how things go then more power to them!
If you are aspiring to this type of career Crypto is as good of a spot to start as any. No reason to say she preemptively shouldn't be paid when no one has seen what she would produces or the pay rate.
Alot of great ideas have come from nullstreet but I don't believe this is one of them.
To take someone that isn't well known to the crypto scene and try to integrate them and give them a voice and audience will be time consuming and pricey.It just doesn't make sense to me to try and take a unknown, educate her and help her grow a audience when their are many experienced people that would do the same job but don't have a pretty face. I mean this as delicately as possible but her best feature is that she is attractive.Her speaking skills don't appear to be wonderful and she doesn't poses a huge knowledge of crypto. Of all the idea's that have been brought up on nullstreet I just don't think this one is good enough to throw funds at.
Now with the above being said if she is donating her time and doesn't plan to run a delegate or receive any funds from delegates then welcome aboard volunteers are not only welcomed but appreciated :)
I wonder you mistake the reality of marketing to a wider audience. Marketing is largely about dumbing down and making the product real and accessible. That isn't science - it's art. Most advertising is scripted by those who do understand the product to depth. Also, worth baring in mind that one approach will not catch all, so we need do need to push on all fronts.
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The reality is she talked about her portfolio on fiverr. I'm not speaking to her financial situation, but she obviously doesn't mind doing this sort of work cheaply to receive exposure. If she wants to have a few glasses of wine, produce a clip, and see how things go then more power to them!
If you are aspiring to this type of career Crypto is as good of a spot to start as any. No reason to say she preemptively shouldn't be paid when no one has seen what she would produces or the pay rate.
I agree I just think it should be spelled out, is she looking for a job or isn't she? I think volunteers are great and this word was thrown around alot on the other forum. If she wants to get paid awesome, produce something that everyone feels is pay worthy (look at the guy that should up with the mobile wallet app) then she will get voted in right away no problem. The standards for a volunteer vs someone that is paid are completely different so its worth making the distinction.
So is she being paid or volunteering? Or does she plan to produce something for free and let the community weigh in and decide if she should be paid?
Look, attempting to guilt some dude into Bitshares because some chick on YouTube gave him spank bank material is not going to do what you want it to in the cryptocommunity. Reaching out beyond the cryptocommunity in this fashion will also fail. This is a serious thing with serious implications in the long term for all of us and potentially the world. Enticing boners to Bitshares is juvenile and retarded. This isn't your WoW guild or BF3 clan we are recruiting for. We are attempting to disrupt and replace Wall St., ForEx, Remittence, etc. Basically the entire global currency network and structure is just beyond Bitshares fingertips. It may take a few years just to touch that area legitimately and maybe a decade before there is any real grasp. A token figurehead appealing to sex deprived men will achieve nothing. You know why? Because they are already here, as determined by a lot of your responses. I can hear the mouth breathing through the interwebs in this forum thread.
Let's try and keep this thing classy. No infomercials either(I was against that too)!
If she's really here to just use her educated experience by way of team MethodX, great. Welcome, I look forward to your contribution.
Why force such discussions at the beginning? You can't even begin to do it until you know what she is doing and what she wants to be paid. So I don't think it should be spelled out at this point.
Once she actually does stuff and wants to be paid then we start having that discussion. I'm completely at a loss why people approach things in this manner. It doesn't seem productive. At all.
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
How do we expect to attract top talent if you guys hit them with a cold water hose right out of the gate?
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
So why are we picking on this particular person who may or may not be embarking on a similar trajectory?
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
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How do we expect to attract top talent if you guys hit them with a cold water hose right out of the gate?
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
Agreed. Some of these same people are wondering why they're still single, and why there aren't many women in this field. Hmmm...
I mean really, she's actually willing to put her face, her whole person out there for public view and criticism...? How many of you gripers would be willing to do that?
I mean really, she's actually willing to put her face, her whole person out there for public view and criticism...? How many of you gripers would be willing to do that?
I mean really, she's actually willing to put her face, her whole person out there for public view and criticism...? How many of you gripers would be willing to do that?
I will... (face-wise. As for personality-wise, I am all out there in the public eye)
but I am handsom...so it does not count :)
It's sad but who didn't see this coming? I talked with Methodx before he posted this thread and he assured me she could take it. I guess we'll see.
Why force such discussions at the beginning? You can't even begin to do it until you know what she is doing and what she wants to be paid. So I don't think it should be spelled out at this point.
Once she actually does stuff and wants to be paid then we start having that discussion. I'm completely at a loss why people approach things in this manner. It doesn't seem productive. At all.
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I don't remember having these kinds of preemptively-critical discussions about Toast, MethodX, Cass or any of our most valuable forum members.
Each one of them pitched in and had developed a valued reputation long before deciding to run for delegate. This is the standard mechanism we advise for most high potential new talent - prove your worth, get some support from another trusted delegate, then run for full-time office. Perhaps some people with established reputations can take a shorter path, but I don't think it's necessary to preemptively interrogate everybody entering the pipeline unless and until they become a candidate.
So why are we picking on this particular person who may or may not be embarking on a similar trajectory?
How do we expect to attract top talent if you guys hit them with a cold water hose right out of the gate?
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
So this thread was the cause of the what-do-you-think-about Stacey discussion on the Mumble hangout today.dont worry here are more girls then you think
First things first, hello Stacey welcome and I hope you are a little thick skinned.
Secondly, the reaction on this thread are predictable from the way methodex worded the OP and the framing of the video, where even a part of the face was cut off, although that did show off just what a smashing blouse you have on. Obviously completely accidental and unintentional, but alas it also causes a certain type of unwanted reactions.
Thirdly, I do think it takes a bit of courage to put your face out there. Regrettably I also admit that I made sure the blond haired blue eyed members of the fair sex I managed to get interested in bitshares also hid their identities well not solely based on privacy concerns.
Last but most certainly not least, Methodex are you telling me that 99% of the crowd here is male? Juck, I'm outta here.
Delegate? How about we see how the first video does. This is just a fun thing we want to do and see what happens.where can we see it?
Im still waiting on delulo.... that is all I know.That is sweet of you fuzz! But that girl is out of my range ;)
The man is single, eloquent, thoughtful and has a high opinion of stacey :P
Toast,Cass and MethodX all provided tons of github,graphic work or demonstrated a great understanding of marketing. It (at least for me) was very easy to see the value of any of these players very quickly. I not only encourage but applaud anyone who does anything big or small as a volunteer.I do feel that volunteer's VS paid delegates should be held to different standards and that it is important to know who is what so that we as a community can accurately judge the work said person is or isn't doing. With MethodX having a delegate(which I supported and he is doing a great job) I felt it was important for it to be known if delegate funds were being used for this idea. It lets all of us as shareholders vote on delegates that provide value to the system, whether through development of code, graphical design, or and other skill deemed useful.
Toast,Cass and MethodX all provided tons of github,graphic work or demonstrated a great understanding of marketing. It (at least for me) was very easy to see the value of any of these players very quickly. I not only encourage but applaud anyone who does anything big or small as a volunteer.I do feel that volunteer's VS paid delegates should be held to different standards and that it is important to know who is what so that we as a community can accurately judge the work said person is or isn't doing. With MethodX having a delegate(which I supported and he is doing a great job) I felt it was important for it to be known if delegate funds were being used for this idea. It lets all of us as shareholders vote on delegates that provide value to the system, whether through development of code, graphical design, or and other skill deemed useful.
Ok, I finally understand your point now. Yes this is a very valid concern to have and something I never even considered the OP could be interpreted as. She is not being paid for this. It's legitimately a fun project the me and Stacey want to work on. We have two videos planned and nothing beyond that.
This +1Toast,Cass and MethodX all provided tons of github,graphic work or demonstrated a great understanding of marketing. It (at least for me) was very easy to see the value of any of these players very quickly. I not only encourage but applaud anyone who does anything big or small as a volunteer.I do feel that volunteer's VS paid delegates should be held to different standards and that it is important to know who is what so that we as a community can accurately judge the work said person is or isn't doing. With MethodX having a delegate(which I supported and he is doing a great job) I felt it was important for it to be known if delegate funds were being used for this idea. It lets all of us as shareholders vote on delegates that provide value to the system, whether through development of code, graphical design, or and other skill deemed useful.
Ok, I finally understand your point now. Yes this is a very valid concern to have and something I never even considered the OP could be interpreted as. She is not being paid for this. It's legitimately a fun project the me and Stacey want to work on. We have two videos planned and nothing beyond that.
My perspective on this is that the blockchain hired you to use your best judgment to increase its value. If that judgment includes subcontracting and hiring people the stakeholders don't know or trust, go for it. You're hired to manage those details so they don't have to. If the shareholders micromanage every detail of what you're doing, there's no value in having you at all. If you persistently abuse that, or show yourself to be ineffective, you'll lose your position. Until that happens, we get the best return out of you by minimizing the friction and drag we apply to your efforts by questioning every detail (constructive feedback is different).
That said, getting things done by finding partners willing to work for nothing but reputation building and fun is even more efficient.
*applause*
My perspective on this is that the blockchain hired you to use your best judgment to increase its value. If that judgment includes subcontracting and hiring people the stakeholders don't know or trust, go for it. You're hired to manage those details so they don't have to. If the shareholders micromanage every detail of what you're doing, there's no value in having you at all. If you persistently abuse that, or show yourself to be ineffective, you'll lose your position. Until that happens, we get the best return out of you by minimizing the friction and drag we apply to your efforts by questioning every detail (constructive feedback is different).Toast,Cass and MethodX all provided tons of github,graphic work or demonstrated a great understanding of marketing. It (at least for me) was very easy to see the value of any of these players very quickly. I not only encourage but applaud anyone who does anything big or small as a volunteer.I do feel that volunteer's VS paid delegates should be held to different standards and that it is important to know who is what so that we as a community can accurately judge the work said person is or isn't doing. With MethodX having a delegate(which I supported and he is doing a great job) I felt it was important for it to be known if delegate funds were being used for this idea. It lets all of us as shareholders vote on delegates that provide value to the system, whether through development of code, graphical design, or and other skill deemed useful.
Ok, I finally understand your point now. Yes this is a very valid concern to have and something I never even considered the OP could be interpreted as. She is not being paid for this. It's legitimately a fun project the me and Stacey want to work on. We have two videos planned and nothing beyond that.
That said, getting things done by finding partners willing to work for nothing but reputation building and fun is even more efficient.
*applause*
How do we expect to attract top talent if you guys hit them with a cold water hose right out of the gate?
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
Agreed. Some of these same people are wondering why they're still single, and why there aren't many women in this field. Hmmm...
Toast,Cass and MethodX all provided tons of github,graphic work or demonstrated a great understanding of marketing. It (at least for me) was very easy to see the value of any of these players very quickly. I not only encourage but applaud anyone who does anything big or small as a volunteer.I do feel that volunteer's VS paid delegates should be held to different standards and that it is important to know who is what so that we as a community can accurately judge the work said person is or isn't doing. With MethodX having a delegate(which I supported and he is doing a great job) I felt it was important for it to be known if delegate funds were being used for this idea. It lets all of us as shareholders vote on delegates that provide value to the system, whether through development of code, graphical design, or and other skill deemed useful.
Ok, I finally understand your point now. Yes this is a very valid concern to have and something I never even considered the OP could be interpreted as. She is not being paid for this. It's legitimately a fun project the me and Stacey want to work on. We have two videos planned and nothing beyond that.