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Title: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 06:57:51 am
I'm proud to announce the first distribution for ProtoShares owners.

ProtoShares owners collectively will receive a 1% stake in the relaunched MemoryCoin - MemoryCoin 2.0.

Balances will be calculated at block 32,000 and the distribution will take place in the genesis block of MemoryCoin 2.0. Coins will be awarded on a 1:10 basis - so if you have 10 ProtoShares, you'll receive 1 MemoryCoin. Fractional amounts will be awarded, but some lower limit may be enforced due to size constraints.

You'll need the private keys for your ProtoShares balance to claim your MemoryCoin distribution. If your balance is held at an exchange, the exchange will hold the private keys and be able to make the claim. However it is uncertain how different exchanges will handle this. To be certain of receiving your full distribution, I recommend holding your full balance off-exchange, and in a single address for simplicy.

MemoryCoin 2.0 will have a similar parameters to ProtoShares, but will have improved difficulty re-targetting, a memory-hard PoW, and voting and payments in the blockchain for 5 office-holders, CEO, CTO, CNO, CMO, CSO and 1 charitable donation, CHA.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: barwizi on December 10, 2013, 07:46:02 am
So when does mining start?

As i see the blocks passing by, it's a matter of 3 hours before we reach 32000
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cryptrol on December 10, 2013, 08:28:53 am
Excuse my ignorance, but I am not getting it, we will have to import our Protoshares private keys into Memorycoin wallet before block 32000 ?

BTW, I am interested into the voting system, where can I read more of it ? I am interested in developing a web frontend for it.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 08:31:51 am
So when does mining start?

Should be within a week, but the block rewards will start at zero and gradually ramp up over the course of a week.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 08:39:51 am
Excuse my ignorance, but I am not getting it, we will have to import our Protoshares private keys into Memorycoin wallet before block 32000 ?

No, you can import your private key any time - indeed you can sell all your ProtoShares on block 32001, and import your private key a year later - the MC will be waiting for you on the block chain. The only thing you might want to do is move funds from a third party to a private wallet to ensure you are in control of the private key at block 32000.


BTW, I am interested into the voting system, where can I read more of it ? I am interested in developing a web frontend for it.

More details to follow, but the basics of it are the voting is proportional to the number of coins you own, there are 5 positions and 1 charitable donation. Votes are made by sending a small number of satoshi to a specially formatted address, multiple preferences are allowed. A web interface could provide information about the votes, but people need their private keys to send even satoshi, so I don't think people could make votes directly on the web. People vote with their wallets in the most literal sense.

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: barwizi on December 10, 2013, 08:42:44 am
i'll probably vie for a position, any tips in the mean time? Like should we move from 8GB machines to 32GB for 8 threads?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 08:55:10 am
i'll probably vie for a position, any tips in the mean time? Like should we move from 8GB machines to 32GB for 8 threads?

That's great - the only tip I can offer is you might want to start generating your election address - you can use vanitygen - the command is

oclvanitygen -o grantawardkey.txt -k -X 50 MVTEceo MVTEcto MVTEcno MVTEcmo MVTEcso MVTEcha

If an amount less than 10 satoshi is sent to an address starting 'MVTEceo' for example, it is treated as a vote for the owner of that address to be CEO and the winners payments is sent to that address.

So it might take you a while to generate MVTEceoBarwz... so the best time to start is now :)

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 10, 2013, 10:23:40 am
Couple questions.  Is there any documentation on this? or a seperate wallet? webiste?  those sorts of things?

Also how do you obtain the private key that you're speaking of?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 10, 2013, 10:36:57 am
Great news Freetrade this will help us see some rise in PTS value, however, i havent got a clue what memory coin is benefits ect can you edit the opening of your topic to let holders and potential investors know what they are supporting/buying into?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Gekko on December 10, 2013, 10:37:48 am
What is MemoryCoin (2.0) for?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 11:17:35 am
More detailed information will be available on the coin's launch, with a 1 week period where block rewards are phased in. It'll be somewhat similar to the original MemoryCoin, so if you can't wait, you can read about that on the BitCoinTalk forum thread.

For now I just really wanted to advise ProtoShares holders of the distribution block - 32000, by my calculations this should be in 2 or 3 days time.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 11:20:16 am
Couple questions.  Is there any documentation on this? or a seperate wallet? webiste?  those sorts of things?

Also how do you obtain the private key that you're speaking of?

It's a separate altcoin/DAC - separate wallet, website etc. The private key will be derivable from your PTS private key.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Gekko on December 10, 2013, 11:40:28 am
I see. Quote from the MemoryCoin Manifesto:
Quote
It is based on the Bitcoin code, but with some key differences.
Sorry, but the first things that come to my mind are: dispensable, superfluous, redundant, unnecessary. Just like most of the other altcoins.
On the other hand... just for making first steps with ProtoShares, for playing around, pump and dump... why not.


Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: bahamapascal on December 10, 2013, 12:52:01 pm
Wow, this is some interesting news :)
That should be beneficial for both coins, I guess we will be seeing a price increase in the next day or so :)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 10, 2013, 01:25:04 pm
Just had a read of the thread on bitcoin talk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267522.0

If its based on the old coin which didnt work out, what are you adding to it to make it work this time?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: ebit on December 10, 2013, 01:53:45 pm
good
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: que23 on December 10, 2013, 01:54:46 pm
Isn't revealing our private key dangerous? Wouldn't someone with my private key be able to spend all my coins?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: fav on December 10, 2013, 02:25:17 pm
Isn't revealing our private key dangerous? Wouldn't someone with my private key be able to spend all my coins?

correct.

I won't risk it for an altcoin.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 02:29:53 pm
Isn't revealing our private key dangerous? Wouldn't someone with my private key be able to spend all my coins?

Yes, it would be, so it is not required that you communicate your private key to anyone.

For maximum safety, you should wait until after block 32000, then transfer your balance to a new ProtoShares address. Then use your old private keys to access your MemoryCoin balance.

The above steps will protect you against the possibility that the altcoin wallet is a trojan trying to collect private keys. You'll also be review the source code and compile it. There's no hurry, so don't feel rushed about any of these steps.

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 02:32:36 pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267522.0

If its based on the old coin which didnt work out, what are you adding to it to make it work this time?

There's some discussion near the end of that thread on the differences that I hope will make the differences. I don't want get off-topic into a general discussion on MC2.0 here.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Gekko on December 10, 2013, 03:20:03 pm
For maximum safety, you should wait until after block 32000, then transfer your balance to a new ProtoShares address. Then use your old private keys to access your MemoryCoin balance.
That seems a litte... cumbersome, at least. I hope such things won't be necessary in future ProtoShare developments!
Isn't that a design fault? Or is it necessary because of how beta ProtoShares (MemoryCoin?) still is? What has my PTS private key to do with anything else than my PTS wallet?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: arubi on December 10, 2013, 04:00:35 pm
Is it not possible to map public PTS addresses to public MC2.0 addresses, then just import your private key from Protoshares on the MC2.0 wallet?

no 3rd party necessary
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 10, 2013, 04:05:46 pm
Couple questions.  Is there any documentation on this? or a seperate wallet? webiste?  those sorts of things?

Also how do you obtain the private key that you're speaking of?

It's a separate altcoin/DAC - separate wallet, website etc. The private key will be derivable from your PTS private key.

sorry if it's a nub question.  But how would one go about getting their PTS private key?  like I know I have several wallet addresses but this private key I'm not to keen on. 
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 10, 2013, 04:13:59 pm
go to help -> debug window -> console and type "listaddressgroupings"
you get an overview of all the addresses in your wallet.

to get the private key for an address type:
walletpassphrase "yourpassphrase" 600 (i hope your wallet is encrypted ;) )
dumpprivkey PtsAddressHere

you might want to move your whole balance to one address before so you don't have to handle multiple keys. just create a new one and send everything there.

@Gekko:
i think there's not really another way. maybe a routine which reads the pts wallet.dat could make it more user-friendly, but in terms of security a transfer of the private keys is the only way to prove that you own the pts
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 10, 2013, 04:26:19 pm
go to help -> debug window -> console and type "listaddressgroupings"
you get an overview of all the addresses in your wallet.

to get the private key for an address type:
walletpassphrase "yourpassphrase" 600 (i hope your wallet is encrypted ;) )
dumpprivkey PtsAddressHere

you might want to move your whole balance to one address before so you don't have to handle multiple keys. just create a new one and send everything there.

@Gekko:
i think there's not really another way. maybe a routine which reads the pts wallet.dat could make it more user-friendly, but in terms of security a transfer of the private keys is the only way to prove that you own the pts

Thanks so much man.  I'll prolly do this at my lunch break to be ready for the fun new coin!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 10, 2013, 04:27:38 pm
also it seems, on the bitsharetalk thing, that the wallet exe file isn't available yet.  is this correct?  I'm assuming so but just seemed weird to have link to nothing.  Guess it's prolly stub
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 04:30:58 pm
Is it not possible to map public PTS addresses to public MC2.0 addresses, then just import your private key from Protoshares on the MC2.0 wallet?

no 3rd party necessary

Yes - this is exactly how it works.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 04:33:51 pm
That seems a litte... cumbersome, at least. I hope such things won't be necessary in future ProtoShare developments!

This is not strictly necessary - it just gives you protection against the possibility of an altcoin wallet trying to harvest your private key. As always, additional preventative security is cumbersome.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 10, 2013, 04:36:36 pm
you might want to move your whole balance to one address before so you don't have to handle multiple keys. just create a new one and send everything there.

This is good advice.

@Gekko:
i think there's not really another way. maybe a routine which reads the pts wallet.dat could make it more user-friendly, but in terms of security a transfer of the private keys is the only way to prove that you own the pts

Rather than every new DAC having an import routine for PTS, it'll probably be simpler for PTS to have an export routine that creates wallets for the DACs that come online.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 10, 2013, 04:53:05 pm
you might want to move your whole balance to one address before so you don't have to handle multiple keys. just create a new one and send everything there.

This is good advice.
i forgot to mention that you have to do this before block 32000 (obviously)!

Rather than every new DAC having an import routine for PTS, it'll probably be simpler for PTS to have an export routine that creates wallets for the DACs that come online.

That's a nice idea!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: arubi on December 10, 2013, 05:32:38 pm
Is it not possible to map public PTS addresses to public MC2.0 addresses, then just import your private key from Protoshares on the MC2.0 wallet?

no 3rd party necessary

Yes - this is exactly how it works.

Oh Okay, so It's not like you even share your private key with anyone.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: barwizi on December 10, 2013, 05:37:39 pm
ok, the trade off is a bit high, at market you are saying 1 memcoin= 1 BTC, perhaps a 10 PTS= 1 memcoin is better.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jbutta2k13 on December 10, 2013, 08:53:36 pm
Sorry, I am a little lost as to how receive the  MemoryCoin "distribution".  Is it a distribution or a swap since you state here that you need to move over to one address and then "selling" your PTS.  Maybe a full how-to on it would help.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: arubi on December 10, 2013, 09:17:33 pm
Sorry, I am a little lost as to how receive the  MemoryCoin "distribution".  Is it a distribution or a swap since you state here that you need to move over to one address and then "selling" your PTS.  Maybe a full how-to on it would help.

The process that is used when creating a private and public key pair (used to store and transmit coins) is agnostic to a specific coin, i.e. all coins use the same process (called ECDSA) to sign transactions (afaik).

By taking the public key off a Protoshares address, and mapping it to a public key on a Memorycoin address, you essentially have one private key that controls two addresses. One is PTS, the second is MC2.0.
If I understand the process correctly, you would only need to import your private key from PTS into the MC2.0 client, and the balance should already be there. This whole process can be done off line and does not require you to disclose your private key.


Please correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 10, 2013, 09:47:57 pm
go to help -> debug window -> console and type "listaddressgroupings"
you get an overview of all the addresses in your wallet.

to get the private key for an address type:
walletpassphrase "yourpassphrase" 600 (i hope your wallet is encrypted ;) )
dumpprivkey PtsAddressHere

when using walletpassphrase "yourpassphrase" 600 i get the following error:
Code: [Select]
Parse error: unbalanced ' or "
any suggestions ?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: luckybit on December 10, 2013, 10:49:48 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but I am not getting it, we will have to import our Protoshares private keys into Memorycoin wallet before block 32000 ?

BTW, I am interested into the voting system, where can I read more of it ? I am interested in developing a web frontend for it.

Why should we import into the memorycoin wallet? Keyhotee is one thing because it's developed by the same company that developed Protoshares. We don't know who is developing memorycoin wallet.

A better solution is to implement memorycoin into the Keyhotee universal wallet so we don't have to worry about all this.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: luckybit on December 10, 2013, 10:53:42 pm
Couple questions.  Is there any documentation on this? or a seperate wallet? webiste?  those sorts of things?

Also how do you obtain the private key that you're speaking of?

It's a separate altcoin/DAC - separate wallet, website etc. The private key will be derivable from your PTS private key.

How is it derivable? Why is it that we have to import our private key into every separate wallet? That means we have to trust your wallet, and every altcoin that comes up with a wallet in the future?

Keyhotee will have a universal wallet which we can put our private key into. That in my opinion is the smarter way to do it and then let each altcoin be an extension or plugin for Keyhotee. I think I will wait until it is done in that way.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 11, 2013, 01:00:03 am
free trade - developer of MemoryCoin developed the protoshare wallet also
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 11, 2013, 01:03:44 am
Free trade pls give us more details about the concern to honor protoshare holders .. i mean its quite fine

And when Block 32000 is reached!?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: devilfish on December 11, 2013, 01:16:30 am
And alas, the quest for who would rule DAC storage began! Should be interesting to see where this heads along with similar other projects, really interesting days :D
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: spoonman on December 11, 2013, 02:56:11 am
How do we check what block # we are on?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Tasaio on December 11, 2013, 03:58:53 am
You can see the current block at http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares

At the time writing this, we are at block 31472. I think it is about a day until block 32000.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: HambreDave on December 11, 2013, 05:18:02 am
Is there a place to download the MemoryCoin 2.0 wallet? If we only have about a day to do this, we're going to have to be pretty quick to get this done. Or am I completely missing something?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexr on December 11, 2013, 05:53:38 am
Ok, so if i move all my PTS in another wallet after the 32k block i can use with completely peace of mind my old private key and memorycoin
But i haven't understood yet very well the features of this alt, and also when the client will released
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 11, 2013, 06:19:21 am
Ok, so if i move all my PTS in another wallet after the 32k block i can use with completely peace of mind my old private key and memorycoin

Yes.

But i haven't understood yet very well the features of this alt, and also when the client will released

Not before it is ready! But I'm hoping within a few days.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 11, 2013, 06:22:48 am
The process that is used when creating a private and public key pair (used to store and transmit coins) is agnostic to a specific coin, i.e. all coins use the same process (called ECDSA) to sign transactions (afaik).

By taking the public key off a Protoshares address, and mapping it to a public key on a Memorycoin address, you essentially have one private key that controls two addresses. One is PTS, the second is MC2.0.
If I understand the process correctly, you would only need to import your private key from PTS into the MC2.0 client, and the balance should already be there. This whole process can be done off line and does not require you to disclose your private key.


Please correct me if I'm wrong

Spot on.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 11, 2013, 06:30:01 am
Keyhotee will have a universal wallet which we can put our private key into. That in my opinion is the smarter way to do it and then let each altcoin be an extension or plugin for Keyhotee. I think I will wait until it is done in that way.

That's a fine plan - you'd only need to use the MC wallet if you want to use the coins. You can let them rest on the blockchain until you're comfortable with the software that is available to use them.
 
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexr on December 11, 2013, 08:05:19 am
Ok, so if i move all my PTS in another wallet after the 32k block i can use with completely peace of mind my old private key and memorycoin

Yes.

But i haven't understood yet very well the features of this alt, and also when the client will released

Not before it is ready! But I'm hoping within a few days.

Ok, so the client will not ready when the 32k block will come  :(
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 11, 2013, 03:49:08 pm
can we assume that mining for memory coin starts at the 32000 block as well? or will mining/wallet/client be released afterwards?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: spoonman on December 11, 2013, 07:41:12 pm
Looks like we killed http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares. Is there another way to check what block we are on?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: lest on December 11, 2013, 07:42:02 pm
Looks like we killed http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares. Is there another way to check what block we are on?

There is also http://coinplorer.com/PTS available.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: luckybit on December 11, 2013, 09:20:22 pm
Can anyone explain succinctly what memory coin does and why we want to use it?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 5chdn on December 11, 2013, 10:08:03 pm
Looks like we killed http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares. Is there another way to check what block we are on?

There is also http://coinplorer.com/PTS available.

And the IRC bot on freenode:

Code: [Select]
23:06:06       @donschoe | .pts
23:06:06      +sternburg | Protoshares Network Block: 31952, Difficulty: 0.00647256, Reward: 23.16456, Minted: 1121663.

48 to go...
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: OM on December 11, 2013, 11:33:30 pm
Looks like we killed http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares. Is there another way to check what block we are on?

Just open your PTS wallet, click help, then debug / information tab. Guess what is right there :)

10 blocks to go...

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: claytonr on December 11, 2013, 11:54:15 pm
I'm really excited about this as it's the first tangible display of what makes Protoshares so exciting. I think others are excited about this small step forward, also.

One question I have, is what was your incentive as a coin developer to honor the PTS blockchain? I have always wondered what incentives exist for developers to honor protoshares and its decedents.

This will be a neat case study. I'm curious if memorycoin releases with an increased value because of PTS?

Thanks and can't wait for block 32,000!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: grovercleveland on December 12, 2013, 12:09:50 am
I caught this late and went to move my PTS from Bter to my wallet... They had 0 confirms as of block 32000.  What does this mean for me?  Will my PTS wallet get the Memcoins since my balance wasn't confirmed in time?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: kokojie on December 12, 2013, 01:07:12 am
I caught this late and went to move my PTS from Bter to my wallet... They had 0 confirms as of block 32000.  What does this mean for me?  Will my PTS wallet get the Memcoins since my balance wasn't confirmed in time?

If the coins were not at your address with at least 1 confirmation on block 32000, then you didn't make it.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 520Bit on December 12, 2013, 01:30:22 am
I'm proud to announce the first distribution for ProtoShares owners.

ProtoShares owners collectively will receive a 1% stake in the relaunched MemoryCoin - MemoryCoin 2.0.

Balances will be calculated at block 32,000 and the distribution will take place in the genesis block of MemoryCoin 2.0. Coins will be awarded on a 1:10 basis - so if you have 10 ProtoShares, you'll receive 1 MemoryCoin. Fractional amounts will be awarded, but some lower limit may be enforced due to size constraints.

You'll need the private keys for your ProtoShares balance to claim your MemoryCoin distribution. If your balance is held at an exchange, the exchange will hold the private keys and be able to make the claim. However it is uncertain how different exchanges will handle this. To be certain of receiving your full distribution, I recommend holding your full balance off-exchange, and in a single address for simplicy.

MemoryCoin 2.0 will have a similar parameters to ProtoShares, but will have improved difficulty re-targetting, a memory-hard PoW, and voting and payments in the blockchain for 5 office-holders, CEO, CTO, CNO, CMO, CSO and 1 charitable donation, CHA.

Block 32000 passed, when can we get the MemoryCoin client? Where to download?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: testz on December 12, 2013, 04:07:18 am
But i haven't understood yet very well the features of this alt, and also when the client will released

Not before it is ready! But I'm hoping within a few days.

Please make announcement here and at https://bitcointalk.org, it's shows that it's not premined and instamined coin.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: devilfish on December 12, 2013, 06:28:44 am
Can anyone explain succinctly what memory coin does and why we want to use it?

Allows decentralized storage? About as basic as I can break it down, the voting and chairperson bits I'm not quite clear on...sounds a little centralised for my taste but anyway...
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 12, 2013, 07:25:10 am
I caught this late and went to move my PTS from Bter to my wallet... They had 0 confirms as of block 32000.  What does this mean for me?  Will my PTS wallet get the Memcoins since my balance wasn't confirmed in time?

If the coins were not at your address with at least 1 confirmation on block 32000, then you didn't make it.

Here's a list of balances as at 32000

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-5Ax5kejTpMOU5PVnJtRnV0TEU/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: rtorfeh on December 12, 2013, 07:58:04 am
the list of balances does not show the locally mined blocks, same goes for ( http://coinplorer.com, and http://btsblock.com ).

for example my account PaHGnmFdDFAJEY9qx6H2rg91DJTbLxbRgd looks like it has only 1.01119029 PTS, but there is also a 50 PTS block locally mined in the first day that i can see in my wallet, but not on the block explorer.
any help would be appreciated.

Thank You
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Sy on December 12, 2013, 07:59:41 am
the list of balances does not show the locally mined blocks, same goes for ( http://coinplorer.com, and http://btsblock.com ).

for example my account PaHGnmFdDFAJEY9qx6H2rg91DJTbLxbRgd looks like it has only 1.01119029 PTS, but there is also a 50 PTS block locally mined in the first day that i can see in my wallet, but not on the block explorer.
any help would be appreciated.

Thank You

Every mined block will be mined to a new address, so its most likely on one of your others - you would have to dump the privkey from every address and import it to recover those coins.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Sy on December 12, 2013, 08:00:43 am
Here's a list of balances as at 32000

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-5Ax5kejTpMOU5PVnJtRnV0TEU/edit?usp=sharing

Its missing some formatting, the first guy holds 40k but your txt just says 4000000000000
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: rtorfeh on December 12, 2013, 08:11:18 am
the list of balances does not show the locally mined blocks, same goes for ( http://coinplorer.com, and http://btsblock.com ).

for example my account PaHGnmFdDFAJEY9qx6H2rg91DJTbLxbRgd looks like it has only 1.01119029 PTS, but there is also a 50 PTS block locally mined in the first day that i can see in my wallet, but not on the block explorer.
any help would be appreciated.

Thank You

Every mined block will be mined to a new address, so its most likely on one of your others - you would have to dump the privkey from every address and import it to recover those coins.

thank you for your help, the block i mentioned is attached to PgubDr4RKp8m3RogLVujeYncD8pMmNDx4w, but this address is not visible in my receive area in the wallet, it is only visible in transactions. is this normal.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Sy on December 12, 2013, 08:23:24 am
thank you for your help, the block i mentioned is attached to PgubDr4RKp8m3RogLVujeYncD8pMmNDx4w, but this address is not visible in my receive area in the wallet, it is only visible in transactions. is this normal.

Thank you.

Yes, its one of the 100 hidden addresses that were created on wallet launch, you can still just dumpprivkey that address and import it.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: rtorfeh on December 12, 2013, 08:26:05 am
thank you for your help, the block i mentioned is attached to PgubDr4RKp8m3RogLVujeYncD8pMmNDx4w, but this address is not visible in my receive area in the wallet, it is only visible in transactions. is this normal.

Thank you.

Yes, its one of the 100 hidden addresses that were created on wallet launch, you can still just dumpprivkey that address and import it.

thank you for for your help and patience.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: devilfish on December 12, 2013, 09:01:14 am
I caught this late and went to move my PTS from Bter to my wallet... They had 0 confirms as of block 32000.  What does this mean for me?  Will my PTS wallet get the Memcoins since my balance wasn't confirmed in time?

If the coins were not at your address with at least 1 confirmation on block 32000, then you didn't make it.

Here's a list of balances as at 32000

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-5Ax5kejTpMOU5PVnJtRnV0TEU/edit?usp=sharing

Just curious, did you use ABE to obtain this? If not how did you go about it?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 12, 2013, 09:19:57 am
One question I have, is what was your incentive as a coin developer to honor the PTS blockchain? I have always wondered what incentives exist for developers to honor protoshares and its decedents.

It helps with distribution and I hope it will lead to an increase in value of both coins.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 12, 2013, 09:21:40 am
Just curious, did you use ABE to obtain this? If not how did you go about it?

MemoryCoin has some code that keeps track of balances for voting, so I just used that code. It just iterates through the blocks, keeping track of input and output transactions.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: devilfish on December 12, 2013, 09:56:18 am
Ok cool I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Clark on December 12, 2013, 09:59:58 am
If so many person doubt its safety, you have to think more before put out a new method, instead of explaining so much.
Just some complains.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 12, 2013, 10:12:51 am
FreeTrade - Seems about a week since you said a week until launch. Any idea on a start date for memory coin 2.0?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: superresistant on December 12, 2013, 12:02:24 pm
FreeTrade - Seems about a week since you said a week until launch. Any idea on a start date for memory coin 2.0?

There is no point of rushing it.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cudido on December 12, 2013, 12:19:57 pm
It is always valid?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267522.msg3732368#msg3732368

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 12, 2013, 01:07:51 pm
FreeTrade - Seems about a week since you said a week until launch. Any idea on a start date for memory coin 2.0?

There is no point of rushing it.

Did i say anything about rushing it? Im just after an update.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 12, 2013, 01:12:57 pm
Did i say anything about rushing it? Im just after an update.

A few days. +/- a week. ;) Software development estimation is really difficult, even more difficult than software development.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 12, 2013, 02:08:43 pm
Did i say anything about rushing it? Im just after an update.

A few days. +/- a week. ;) Software development estimation is really difficult, even more difficult than software development.

Thanks for the reply, will you make an announcement on this thread or do we need to read others?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 13, 2013, 09:03:40 am
Here's some more info on the approach taken to hiring in the BlockChain -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=369487.new#new

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: bytemaster on December 13, 2013, 09:04:30 am
Great work FreeTrade and thank you for helping test the concept and I am sure we will learn a lot from your experience.

Not having looked at FreeTrade's code I can only describe how I would implement it... I would simply copy my wallet.dat file from ~/.protoshares to ~/.memorycoin2 as I doubt FreeTrade has changed the wallet format. 

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 13, 2013, 09:06:54 am
Great work FreeTrade and thank you for helping test the concept and I am sure we will learn a lot from your experience.

Not having looked at FreeTrade's code I can only describe how I would implement it... I would simply copy my wallet.dat file from ~/.protoshares to ~/.memorycoin2 as I doubt FreeTrade has changed the wallet format.

Unfortunately this won't work - the private key internally uses a different special byte, and this seems to be stored in the wallet.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Shadow on December 14, 2013, 07:50:36 am
Please don't rush the release. There is already bad talk because of botching MC 1.0. It does not matter if 2.0 is released today or a week later. It's important that the start is well planned.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 14, 2013, 11:42:52 am
Okay - here's the post to keep an eye on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370806.0
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexr on December 14, 2013, 05:23:52 pm
Okay - here's the post to keep an eye on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370806.0

subbed
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Montaxx on December 14, 2013, 06:59:37 pm
First of all: THANK YOU guys ! I'm happy to be the CSO at this moment ! I know that with that power there is also a big responsibility. As the CSO I need to make sure everybody has a good start and gets help. Of course I can't be everywhere, but we will find a way to master this !

But now let me show you who I am. I think everybody should see the man behind the MMC-Address he's voting for.

Now that's me:
(http://www.abload.de/img/me5iuht.jpg)
I'm just a regular 21 years old guy like you ! I work as a Information Technology Officer and have a well knowledge in computers and the all mighty internet ;)

But what will a guy like me do ?

Well, easy: I plan to help where I can ! I opened up a IRC-Room for you to discuss and get help. But sure in time I can't manage all the questions and problems on my own, so I plan to set up a "Task Force" who gets Coins for supporting me.

What I will do:
- I will expand my webpage http://mmc.montaxx.me so far that you will always have the best informations.
- Once exchanges are available you will be able to see shiny stats like on my PTS page http://pts.montaxx.me
- I will try to have close contact to the developers to get the best news and tell you guys about what is happening
- A ticket system will come to help resolving problems
- Monthly giveaways and lotterys to give you something back !
- and many many more

 

If you like my service and how I helped so far and will help the community, why don't you just vote for me ?

It's very easy and costs nearly nothing. Just send 0.00000001 MMC to MVTEcsoCi2QBXFTsRARm81nXSkaqeAt5wT and your vote is counted !
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: renkcub on December 14, 2013, 07:43:33 pm
SO, how do we get our Memorycoins from our Protoshares?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Montaxx on December 14, 2013, 08:39:18 pm
SO, how do we get our Memorycoins from our Protoshares?

Read the post above you. There is a tutorial on my Website
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 14, 2013, 10:06:19 pm
when miner is ready you post it here  or on bitcointalk? Or what miner can be used for MemoryCoin then!?

just curious
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: robozombie on December 14, 2013, 11:48:11 pm
SO, how do we get our Memorycoins from our Protoshares?

Read the post above you. There is a tutorial on my Website
Hi, Montaxx! I just extracted my PTS' pk. What's next?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: devilfish on December 15, 2013, 12:24:06 am
So....14 hours eh, think I can stay up till Midnight...you aren't Australian FT, it's exactly midnight our time when you are launching this thing.

Mostly want to look at this source, very excited!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: devilfish on December 15, 2013, 03:15:40 am
SO, how do we get our Memorycoins from our Protoshares?

Read the post above you. There is a tutorial on my Website
Hi, Montaxx! I just extracted my PTS' pk. What's next?

You have to wait till it's released, read the post you quoted a little more carefully...
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 15, 2013, 07:18:21 am
Great work FreeTrade and thank you for helping test the concept and I am sure we will learn a lot from your experience.

Not having looked at FreeTrade's code I can only describe how I would implement it... I would simply copy my wallet.dat file from ~/.protoshares to ~/.memorycoin2 as I doubt FreeTrade has changed the wallet format.

Unfortunately this won't work - the private key internally uses a different special byte, and this seems to be stored in the wallet.

Actually I've just tested this again and my apologies, this will work.

The wallet contains a lot of extra stuff like transactions and addresses that are not valid on the network, so continuing to use the wallet may cause stability problems if it tries to propogate the invalid info, but a quick way to import your coins, this will work very nicely.

If using this method, I suggest sending the coins to a fresh MC wallet as the first transaction.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 15, 2013, 10:37:50 am
Great work FreeTrade and thank you for helping test the concept and I am sure we will learn a lot from your experience.

Not having looked at FreeTrade's code I can only describe how I would implement it... I would simply copy my wallet.dat file from ~/.protoshares to ~/.memorycoin2 as I doubt FreeTrade has changed the wallet format.

Unfortunately this won't work - the private key internally uses a different special byte, and this seems to be stored in the wallet.

Actually I've just tested this again and my apologies, this will work.

The wallet contains a lot of extra stuff like transactions and addresses that are not valid on the network, so continuing to use the wallet may cause stability problems if it tries to propogate the invalid info, but a quick way to import your coins, this will work very nicely.

If using this method, I suggest sending the coins to a fresh MC wallet as the first transaction.

I would like to ask which miner should we use to mine coins?

Does pooler-cpu miner work or would it be possible to use jhprotominer for example? Or is it solo mining for now until someone creates a miner compatible with memorycoin?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 11:39:20 am
Great work FreeTrade and thank you for helping test the concept and I am sure we will learn a lot from your experience.

Not having looked at FreeTrade's code I can only describe how I would implement it... I would simply copy my wallet.dat file from ~/.protoshares to ~/.memorycoin2 as I doubt FreeTrade has changed the wallet format.

Unfortunately this won't work - the private key internally uses a different special byte, and this seems to be stored in the wallet.

Actually I've just tested this again and my apologies, this will work.

The wallet contains a lot of extra stuff like transactions and addresses that are not valid on the network, so continuing to use the wallet may cause stability problems if it tries to propogate the invalid info, but a quick way to import your coins, this will work very nicely.

If using this method, I suggest sending the coins to a fresh MC wallet as the first transaction.

I would like to ask which miner should we use to mine coins?

Does pooler-cpu miner work or would it be possible to use jhprotominer for example? Or is it solo mining for now until someone creates a miner compatible with memorycoin?

Thanks.

interesting question - i want to know it also - thx for your answers
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 15, 2013, 12:00:18 pm
It will be solo mining initially.

The code is based on Protoshares and so any infrastructure made for PS should be fairly easy to mod to work with MemoryCoin.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexr on December 15, 2013, 12:15:48 pm
It will be solo mining initially.

Good! +1
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: adamino on December 15, 2013, 12:21:52 pm
It will be solo mining initially.
It means that initially mining will only be possible from MemoryCoin-qt.exe, right? Sorry, but I've never solo mined anything beforce, only in pools  ;)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: delta123 on December 15, 2013, 01:02:15 pm
Sorry, simple question:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370806.0
Source
Based on the ProtoShares code base, which is based on Bitcoin 0.8.5
https://github.com/memorycoin/memorycoin (not yet available)

It's valid unix-client for memory coin 2.0 or not? We wait new source?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 15, 2013, 01:37:04 pm
so do I have to config the conf file or just hit start mining within the wallet?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 01:44:38 pm
so do I have to config the conf file or just hit start mining within the wallet?

indeed good question...but i guess like with pts wallet miner. it goes directly to your wallet address
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 15, 2013, 01:49:00 pm
I believe the mining has begun.  Mine still states 0.00000000 HPM but I'm guessing it's working since my 6 threads are going
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 15, 2013, 01:51:19 pm
I'm getting no blocksource available, the wallet is working on my personal computer but on my servers its giving that error.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Montaxx on December 15, 2013, 01:53:04 pm
I'm Mining with 0.3 hashespermin. Lets see what happens


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk (http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 15, 2013, 02:02:22 pm
adding nodes, restarted the wallet, deleted the appdata and restarted the wallet.

Its not connecting, i can see it connects then disconnects and keeps doing that.

Giving it a few more minutes then giving up on this coin.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 02:44:53 pm
same problem like me try this if you don'T try it before

go to Help -> Debug Window. Then type in the box line by line

addnode 180.183.156.250:1968 add
addnode 90.231.187.171:50251 add
addnode 76.24.94.154:1968 add
addnode 70.112.30.253:26959 add
addnode 62.43.2.239:1968 add
addnode 82.52.177.81:1968 add
addnode 193.92.140.209:51570 add

Then just wait a couple minutes.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: adamino on December 15, 2013, 02:45:30 pm
What is the minimum amount of protoshares in the private key when importing to mmc 2.0?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 02:50:49 pm
What is the minimum amount of protoshares in the private key when importing to mmc 2.0?

Quote
1:10 basis - so if you have 10 ProtoShares, you'll receive 1 MemoryCoin. Fractional amounts will be awarded, but some lower limit may be enforced due to size constraints.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Montaxx on December 15, 2013, 02:52:09 pm
Mining since launch with 0.3hpm. Nothing yet


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk (http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 15, 2013, 03:07:24 pm
same problem like me try this if you don'T try it before

go to Help -> Debug Window. Then type in the box line by line

addnode 180.183.156.250:1968 add
addnode 90.231.187.171:50251 add
addnode 76.24.94.154:1968 add
addnode 70.112.30.253:26959 add
addnode 62.43.2.239:1968 add
addnode 82.52.177.81:1968 add
addnode 193.92.140.209:51570 add

Then just wait a couple minutes.

Gave it a hour, I already added every node posted at bitcointalk memorycoin thread.

Shutting down my servers, wasted 50$ on this, had a 100 servers running from amazon. I think pool mining is not an option for this coin at the moment too.

I will no longer waste time trying to mine this coin, wallet won't even sync.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 03:10:22 pm
Did somebody get it run on ubuntu !?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: lzr1900 on December 15, 2013, 03:15:17 pm
This coin suck! >:( wallet won't sync !
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cudido on December 15, 2013, 03:44:30 pm
There is no reward for those who have Memorycoin 1.0 (MEG) and has been actively involved with the votes?

Exchangeability in MMC?

 :(
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 5chdn on December 15, 2013, 03:45:06 pm
What is the minimum amount of protoshares in the private key when importing to mmc 2.0?

0.00000010 PTS = 0.00000001 MMC
That should be the minimum.

http://i.imgur.com/WbGDHQ4.png
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 5chdn on December 15, 2013, 03:45:58 pm
This coin suck! >:( wallet won't sync !

add some nodes http://pastie.org/8553908
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Lighthouse on December 15, 2013, 03:46:28 pm
Loaded it up, crashed after a few minutes while I was adding nodes.  Reinstalled, same deal.  What's up?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 04:14:06 pm
What is the minimum amount of protoshares in the private key when importing to mmc 2.0?

0.00000010 PTS = 0.00000001 MMC
That should be the minimum.

http://i.imgur.com/WbGDHQ4.png

you're running it under linux! Any how to !?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: bytemaster on December 15, 2013, 04:23:11 pm
FreeTrade... will you please solve the Wallet Syncing issue as it appears to affect both PTS and MemoryCoin 2.0 both of which you built.   I suspect that the fix for MemoryCoin will also help PTS.

It seems like PTS will start syncing within 30 minutes based upon latest reports.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 15, 2013, 04:42:09 pm
FreeTrade... will you please solve the Wallet Syncing issue as it appears to affect both PTS and MemoryCoin 2.0 both of which you built.   I suspect that the fix for MemoryCoin will also help PTS.

It seems like PTS will start syncing within 30 minutes based upon latest reports.

Block 1 is 1.5MB - filled with PTS distribution balances! I think that's causing the syncing issues with MC - a lot of new miners trying to download the blockchain at the same time from a limited number of full nodes. I'll keep an eye out for any problems that may be related to PS though.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 15, 2013, 04:43:57 pm
There is no reward for those who have Memorycoin 1.0 (MEG) and has been actively involved with the votes?

Exchangeability in MMC?

 :(

Yes, all balances as at 8820 in the original MemoryCoin blockchain will show up in Block 1.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: bytemaster on December 15, 2013, 04:44:29 pm
FreeTrade... will you please solve the Wallet Syncing issue as it appears to affect both PTS and MemoryCoin 2.0 both of which you built.   I suspect that the fix for MemoryCoin will also help PTS.

It seems like PTS will start syncing within 30 minutes based upon latest reports.

Block 1 is 1.5MB - filled with PTS distribution balances! I think that's causing the syncing issues with MC - a lot of new miners trying to download the blockchain at the same time from a limited number of full nodes. I'll keep an eye out for any problems that may be related to PS though.

Any chance you could bundle the genesis block with the distributed binaries?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 15, 2013, 04:44:58 pm
What is the minimum amount of protoshares in the private key when importing to mmc 2.0?

Quote
1:10 basis - so if you have 10 ProtoShares, you'll receive 1 MemoryCoin. Fractional amounts will be awarded, but some lower limit may be enforced due to size constraints.

No lower limit was applied.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 5chdn on December 15, 2013, 04:45:25 pm
What is the minimum amount of protoshares in the private key when importing to mmc 2.0?

0.00000010 PTS = 0.00000001 MMC
That should be the minimum.

http://i.imgur.com/WbGDHQ4.png

you're running it under linux! Any how to !?

Quote
git clone https://github.com/memorycoin/memorycoin.git
cd memorycoin
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
make
src/qt/memorycoin-qt

profit.

join #memorycoin on freenode for questions
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: kokojie on December 15, 2013, 05:45:29 pm
I have gotten my MMC from using my PTS wallet. But now some MMC says "immature", when will these mature?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: testz on December 15, 2013, 05:55:07 pm
I have gotten my MMC from using my PTS wallet. But now some MMC says "immature", when will these mature?

Very simple, point mouse to the transaction and it's will show you when it's will be mature.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: canth on December 15, 2013, 06:00:50 pm
I have 4 addresses in my PTS wallet, 3 of which have balances so I imported all 4 private keys into my MMC wallet. One corresponding MMC address shows a proper balance of 1:10 PTS:MMC, while the others do not appear to have any mined transactions.

The coins came from mining and purchases, 99% of which were generated before block 32000. Any guesses why some balances aren't showing properly?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: testz on December 15, 2013, 06:06:42 pm
I have 4 addresses in my PTS wallet, 3 of which have balances so I imported all 4 private keys into my MMC wallet. One corresponding MMC address shows a proper balance of 1:10 PTS:MMC, while the others do not appear to have any mined transactions.

The coins came from mining and purchases, 99% of which were generated before block 32000. Any guesses why some balances aren't showing properly?

Try to restart the MemoryCoin client.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: renkcub on December 15, 2013, 06:17:37 pm
I am getting "0 active connections to memorycoin", what do I do?
Also, can you/ is it worth mining from the client?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 15, 2013, 06:32:07 pm
I have 4 addresses in my PTS wallet, 3 of which have balances so I imported all 4 private keys into my MMC wallet. One corresponding MMC address shows a proper balance of 1:10 PTS:MMC, while the others do not appear to have any mined transactions.

The coins came from mining and purchases, 99% of which were generated before block 32000. Any guesses why some balances aren't showing properly?

The balances might be on your change addresses - try starting MC using your PS wallet - that should import all the keys for you.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: testz on December 15, 2013, 06:32:30 pm
I am getting "0 active connections to memorycoin", what do I do?
Also, can you/ is it worth mining from the client?

Look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370806.0
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: canth on December 15, 2013, 07:28:30 pm
I have 4 addresses in my PTS wallet, 3 of which have balances so I imported all 4 private keys into my MMC wallet. One corresponding MMC address shows a proper balance of 1:10 PTS:MMC, while the others do not appear to have any mined transactions.

The coins came from mining and purchases, 99% of which were generated before block 32000. Any guesses why some balances aren't showing properly?

Try to restart the MemoryCoin client.

Should have tried that before posting  - restarting worked. I guess at least others can learn what to expect. Odd that the first import value showed up without a restart while the others didn't.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: delta123 on December 15, 2013, 07:51:41 pm
too many error message   :-\

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::thread_resource_error> >'
  what():  boost::thread_resource_error: Resource temporarily unavailable

Linux source:
https://github.com/memorycoin/memorycoin.git
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: sumantso on December 15, 2013, 07:54:08 pm
I missed this. So, if I withdraw PTS from exchange now and import will it work?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 15, 2013, 08:02:48 pm
No.
Maybe you can ask the exchange for the private key of your address, but at the moment they are the only ones able to redeem.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 15, 2013, 08:08:20 pm
congrats Freetrade an impressively fair start.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: sumantso on December 15, 2013, 08:32:43 pm
No.
Maybe you can ask the exchange for the private key of your address, but at the moment they are the only ones able to redeem.

Interesting.

Does the devs plan on mailing the exchanges - there only 3 now - to issue memory coins to users in proportion?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jellyfish420 on December 15, 2013, 08:38:46 pm
ok, i cant figure out the importprivkey.
i go to protoshare qt copy address from receive. go to console and type dumprivkey <address>, then copy very long string,
then i go to memorycoin qt console type importprivkey <verylongstring> [label] [rescan=true]......

heres what i typed...
importprivkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ypool rescan=true
i get    Method not found(code -32601)
tried diff address...
importprivkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ptspool rescan=true
iget        Error: Error parsing JSON:rescan=true

what am i doing wrong?


NVM figured it out :) you don't need the [label] or [rescan=true] LOL
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jellyfish420 on December 15, 2013, 08:41:44 pm
No.
Maybe you can ask the exchange for the private key of your address, but at the moment they are the only ones able to redeem.

Interesting.

Does the devs plan on mailing the exchanges - there only 3 now - to issue memory coins to users in proportion?
from what i've gathered i 'think' its up to the exchange how/if they want to do it.....
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 15, 2013, 09:13:25 pm
any chance to get an OSX version of this miner ?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 15, 2013, 10:15:42 pm
ok, i cant figure out the importprivkey.
i go to protoshare qt copy address from receive. go to console and type dumprivkey <address>, then copy very long string,
then i go to memorycoin qt console type importprivkey <verylongstring> [label] [rescan=true]......

heres what i typed...
importprivkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ypool rescan=true
i get    Method not found(code -32601)
tried diff address...
importprivkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ptspool rescan=true
iget        Error: Error parsing JSON:rescan=true

what am i doing wrong?


NVM figured it out :) you don't need the [label] or [rescan=true] LOL
importprivkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1
or
importprivkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx true
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: fluxer555 on December 15, 2013, 10:18:58 pm
Why is the miner using so little RAM? I have 71GB of RAM on my server with 8 cores, and it's only using 2% of it. Shouldn't utilizing more RAM help this substantially? This IS MemoryCoin after all, isn't it?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 15, 2013, 11:11:29 pm
Why is the miner using so little RAM? I have 71GB of RAM on my server with 8 cores, and it's only using 2% of it. Shouldn't utilizing more RAM help this substantially? This IS MemoryCoin after all, isn't it?

I think it only needs 1GB regardless of the amount of threads you use.

This coin desperately needs a pool and a working miner. A fix for the wallet sync problem alot including me are ecountering or 2.0 is going to fail just like 1.0 did.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Pocket Sand on December 16, 2013, 03:22:10 am
Still a bit unclear on the idea of importing protoshare's private key to mem coin, is there a set date we need to do this by or can we still claim these coins with our pts private key a year down the road?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 16, 2013, 03:28:02 am
Still a bit unclear on the idea of importing protoshare's private key to mem coin, is there a set date we need to do this by or can we still claim these coins with our pts private key a year down the road?

They're waiting for you :)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 520Bit on December 16, 2013, 03:30:19 am
Thanks, FreeTrade. Guess what? I did not import the private key. I just simply copied my PTS wallet.dat file to MMC APP document, and open the MMC client, unbelievable, I got the MMC balances. Is there a problem if I do not transfer my MMC to a fresh MMC wallet.dat? Are PTS wallet.dat and MMC wallet.dat file absolutely compatible?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 16, 2013, 03:33:25 am
Thanks, FreeTrade. Guess what? I did not import the private key. I just simply copied my PTS wallet.dat file to MMC APP document, and open the MMC client, unbelievable, I got the MMC balances. Is there a problem if I do not transfer my MMC to a fresh MMC wallet.dat? Are PTS wallet.dat and MMC wallet.dat file absolutely compatible?

FreeTrade mentioned that it is possible, but advised that you should create a new wallet.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 16, 2013, 11:03:35 am
Still a bit unclear on the idea of importing protoshare's private key to mem coin, is there a set date we need to do this by or can we still claim these coins with our pts private key a year down the road?

I would also need to know the answer to this, anyone help?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 16, 2013, 11:08:54 am
Still a bit unclear on the idea of importing protoshare's private key to mem coin, is there a set date we need to do this by or can we still claim these coins with our pts private key a year down the road?

I would also need to know the answer to this, anyone help?
The coins you had in your address when PTS-block 32000 was mined are loaded directly into the genesis block of memcoin. same address same privkey => same balance (as of block 32000)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: stuartcharles on December 16, 2013, 11:13:59 am
Still a bit unclear on the idea of importing protoshare's private key to mem coin, is there a set date we need to do this by or can we still claim these coins with our pts private key a year down the road?

I would also need to know the answer to this, anyone help?
The coins you had in your address when PTS-block 32000 was mined are loaded directly into the genesis block of memcoin. same address same privkey => same balance (as of block 32000)

I see, so as long as we keep our privkeys from the wallets that contained our balances at block 32000 we can get them any time, did i get it?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 16, 2013, 11:23:42 am
Quote
I see, so as long as we keep our privkeys from the wallets that contained our balances at block 32000 we can get them any time, did i get it?

for memcoin .. yes .. if an other altcoin launches with distributions to PTS holders .. than it may be an other block
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: andhar on December 16, 2013, 12:26:51 pm
After adding nodes my wallet is still not syncing.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jbutta2k13 on December 16, 2013, 01:48:03 pm
SO, how do we get our Memorycoins from our Protoshares?

I am new and I would like to know at at the CLI dumpprivkey Youprotosharesaddress.....where do I get "YourPTSsaddress" from the wallet?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Montaxx on December 16, 2013, 03:32:09 pm
See here: http://mmc.montaxx.me


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk (http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 16, 2013, 04:48:02 pm
SO, how do we get our Memorycoins from our Protoshares?

I am new and I would like to know at at the CLI dumpprivkey Youprotosharesaddress.....where do I get "YourPTSsaddress" from the wallet?

http://www.reddit.com/r/protoshare/comments/1t0b64/how_to_import_private_keys_to_memorycoin/ check out the how to
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: bytemaster on December 16, 2013, 05:18:05 pm
What is the current market value of MMC?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 16, 2013, 07:12:40 pm
What is the current market value of MMC?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=373396.new#new  lowest sell value is @ .02
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Mrrr on December 16, 2013, 07:27:01 pm
This is weird:

"Following the logic that 10 PTS were offered for 1 MMC by FreeTrade,
I would like to sell 2 MMC at .1 BTC each. " - quote from BTC talk buy and sell topic.

Somehow people on BTC forums feel 1 MMC should be worth somewhere in between .02 and .1 BTC.
This could mean that things that are based on Protoshares are in high demand, in which case you'd expect a prise rise for PTS. It is down 20% however.

The other option is that people don't seem to get it. Hopefully I'll finally find a block some time soon so I can sell it for 1BTC just to prove my point.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 16, 2013, 08:05:43 pm
This is weird:

"Following the logic that 10 PTS were offered for 1 MMC by FreeTrade,
I would like to sell 2 MMC at .1 BTC each. " - quote from BTC talk buy and sell topic.

Somehow people on BTC forums feel 1 MMC should be worth somewhere in between .02 and .1 BTC.
This could mean that things that are based on Protoshares are in high demand, in which case you'd expect a prise rise for PTS. It is down 20% however.

The other option is that people don't seem to get it. Hopefully I'll finally find a block some time soon so I can sell it for 1BTC just to prove my point.

Yeah  saw that too.  Interesting idea to essentially just mimic/scale PTS's price to new coin.  but it's in very early stages so I doubt it'll stay that consistant. 

Kewlio I even got a block.  one of the midget blocks though but 70mmc is better than 0mmc I guess
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 16, 2013, 08:29:04 pm
What is the current market value of MMC?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=373396.new#new  lowest sell value is @ .02

weird - but cool :O
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Lighthouse on December 16, 2013, 09:36:37 pm
Anybody want to buy some Memorycoins? 
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 16, 2013, 09:49:55 pm
Anybody want to buy some Memorycoins?

haha .. You must got a few i guess^^
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Lighthouse on December 16, 2013, 10:26:20 pm
I would if the wallet didn't crash after two minutes.   I totally don't get this coin.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Mrrr on December 16, 2013, 11:05:40 pm
This is weird:

"Following the logic that 10 PTS were offered for 1 MMC by FreeTrade,
I would like to sell 2 MMC at .1 BTC each. " - quote from BTC talk buy and sell topic.

Somehow people on BTC forums feel 1 MMC should be worth somewhere in between .02 and .1 BTC.
This could mean that things that are based on Protoshares are in high demand, in which case you'd expect a prise rise for PTS. It is down 20% however.

The other option is that people don't seem to get it. Hopefully I'll finally find a block some time soon so I can sell it for 1BTC just to prove my point.

Yeah  saw that too.  Interesting idea to essentially just mimic/scale PTS's price to new coin.  but it's in very early stages so I doubt it'll stay that consistant. 

Kewlio I even got a block.  one of the midget blocks though but 70mmc is better than 0mmc I guess

Following the thread developing I think a lot of people seem to be under the impression that PTS owners can trade their PTS for MMC at a 10:1 ratio. Which is obviously not the case. Perhaps some clarification is needed there.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: liquiddrool on December 17, 2013, 03:49:52 am
Great work FreeTrade and thank you for helping test the concept and I am sure we will learn a lot from your experience.

Not having looked at FreeTrade's code I can only describe how I would implement it... I would simply copy my wallet.dat file from ~/.protoshares to ~/.memorycoin2 as I doubt FreeTrade has changed the wallet format.

Unfortunately this won't work - the private key internally uses a different special byte, and this seems to be stored in the wallet.

Actually I've just tested this again and my apologies, this will work.

The wallet contains a lot of extra stuff like transactions and addresses that are not valid on the network, so continuing to use the wallet may cause stability problems if it tries to propogate the invalid info, but a quick way to import your coins, this will work very nicely.

If using this method, I suggest sending the coins to a fresh MC wallet as the first transaction.

This worked for me.  I also created a new PTS wallet.dat and emptied out the original PTS wallet balance into it, just for good measure.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: liquiddrool on December 17, 2013, 03:54:28 am
This is weird:

"Following the logic that 10 PTS were offered for 1 MMC by FreeTrade,
I would like to sell 2 MMC at .1 BTC each. " - quote from BTC talk buy and sell topic.

Somehow people on BTC forums feel 1 MMC should be worth somewhere in between .02 and .1 BTC.
This could mean that things that are based on Protoshares are in high demand, in which case you'd expect a prise rise for PTS. It is down 20% however.

The other option is that people don't seem to get it. Hopefully I'll finally find a block some time soon so I can sell it for 1BTC just to prove my point.

Yeah  saw that too.  Interesting idea to essentially just mimic/scale PTS's price to new coin.  but it's in very early stages so I doubt it'll stay that consistant. 

Kewlio I even got a block.  one of the midget blocks though but 70mmc is better than 0mmc I guess

I got a midget block too, worth about 2.5....so be glad about the 70!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: legitnick on December 17, 2013, 08:21:43 am
After adding nodes my wallet is still not syncing.
SAME HERE WTF BROKEN COIN IS BROKE
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: bytemaster on December 17, 2013, 08:30:38 am
After adding nodes my wallet is still not syncing.
SAME HERE WTF BROKEN COIN IS BROKE

FreeTrade - Can you please post a new topic about lessons learned?

1) Include Genesis Block in Binaries
2) ????
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: legitnick on December 17, 2013, 08:34:16 am
After adding nodes my wallet is still not syncing.
SAME HERE WTF BROKEN COIN IS BROKE

FreeTrade - Can you please post a new topic about lessons learned?

1) Include Genesis Block in Binaries
2) ????
3) profit
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: andhar on December 17, 2013, 09:01:11 am
Been mining for 48 hours, so far nothing :D
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 17, 2013, 09:03:19 am
I got my first block worth 280 MMCs

I dont see any mistakes made here?!? No idea what problems you guys have. I just started the wallet and waited...
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: andhar on December 17, 2013, 09:19:27 am
What rate are you mining at?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 17, 2013, 09:27:32 am
Code: [Select]
getmininginfo
{
    "blocks" : 408,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.00000885,
    "errors" : "",
    "genproclimit" : 4,
    "hashespermin" : 1.63704397,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: 001sonkit on December 17, 2013, 09:28:00 am
any working nodes that you guys are using, all dead since 110 hrs ago for me. thx
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 17, 2013, 09:32:42 am
Code: [Select]
        "addr" : "78.58.201.6:1968",
        "addr" : "124.183.249.203:1968",
        "addr" : "192.241.247.30:1968",
        "addr" : "146.185.179.90:1968",
        "addr" : "86.56.28.201:1968",
        "addr" : "192.34.62.29:1968",
        "addr" : "209.126.73.120:1968",
        "addr" : "220.175.195.44:1968",

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 17, 2013, 10:16:14 am
Code: [Select]
getmininginfo
{
    "blocks" : 408,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.00000885,
    "errors" : "",
    "genproclimit" : 4,
    "hashespermin" : 1.63704397,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}


device !?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: andhar on December 17, 2013, 10:26:27 am
Been mining with:



{
"blocks" : 410,
"currentblocksize" : 2548,
"currentblocktx" : 7,
"difficulty" : 0.00001382,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 8,
"hashespermin" : 3.02765648,
"pooledtx" : 7,
"testnet" : false
}


So far no blocks :P
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: xeroc on December 17, 2013, 10:36:15 am
so I guess I just had luck with my single block :-)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: andhar on December 17, 2013, 12:06:17 pm
hehe yeah. Hoping to get some luck spilled on me soon or i'll just wait for a pool to be established. 
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 17, 2013, 02:21:03 pm
Welcome Montaxx thx for joinin the forum team
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: legitnick on December 17, 2013, 06:03:00 pm
STILL NOTHING AFTER 30 HOURS  >:( >:( >:( >:(
root@livecd:~/memorycoin/src# ./bitcoind getinfo
{
    "version" : 85200,
    "protocolversion" : 70001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 0,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 0,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 0.00000000,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1387266596,
    "keypoolsize" : 102,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Montaxx on December 17, 2013, 07:55:24 pm
Thanks guys :)

People, please read this post before everything: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1447.0
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 18, 2013, 08:00:12 pm
Code: [Select]
"balance" : 280.00040000,
Ding ding -  :D cool find my first block
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: RejectKid on December 18, 2013, 08:07:04 pm
lol I had 2 blocks looks like 1 right before it went up to the 280 reward (i received 70) and then an actual 280 one
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 18, 2013, 08:09:17 pm
lol I had 2 blocks looks like 1 right before it went up to the 280 reward (i received 70) and then an actual 280 one

nice
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: rick on December 19, 2013, 03:46:22 am
I get my first reward, 280  unconfirmed MMCs. Now, they all gone. I don't know why.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: cass on December 19, 2013, 09:15:43 am
I get my first reward, 280  unconfirmed MMCs. Now, they all gone. I don't know why.

orphaned block - somebody was faster i guess
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Kokice on December 19, 2013, 06:38:09 pm
is there anywhere to trade MMC?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: smokim11 on December 20, 2013, 06:37:04 am
is there anywhere to trade MMC?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1511.0
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexxy on December 20, 2013, 07:00:26 pm
Any ideas why i cannot dump privkeys from protoshares?

Code: [Select]
$ ./protosharesd validateaddress PaYXwT59RsT16xNat5b748dmCamqd6ownv
{   
    "isvalid" : true,
    "address" : "PaYXwT59RsT16xNat5b748dmCamqd6ownv",
    "ismine" : true,
    "isscript" : false,
    "pubkey" : "02232f63b36ec7fc5fc93dc7344a8e818f91c8545eabcf504523912d2f10a33b7a",
    "iscompressed" : true
}

$ ./protosharesd dumpprivkey Pgd3XeSmo4152Pb3zARitR4GgSWS3nXJJH
error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address Pgd3XeSmo4152Pb3zARitR4GgSWS3nXJJH is not known"}
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 20, 2013, 07:43:34 pm
the priv key differs from the address...
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jbutta2k13 on December 20, 2013, 08:28:14 pm
Please advise:  I had 83 Protoshares in my wallet at the time of the 32,000 block, but I only received 1.2 shares versus the 8.3 anticipated based on the 1:10 distribution dicsussed in the thread.

Can someone explain the discrepency?  My protoshares were 100% mined so I can someone explain why there is a difference?

Update:  I want to be more specific about the problem.
1.  I have mined all my shares on Ypool and I have multiple transactions from that there to my wallet. 
2.  It appears that when anyone refers to PTSwalletaddress, there doesn't appear to be a common addresss to the wallet.  this is where the confiusion comes in.  Why is there not a common wallet address? 
3.  When I label the transaction, its not a label, but rather, the name for an account. 
4.  So while I may use the wallet app, that app is does not have have a common  PTS address that stores all of the PTS share addresses that are in the wallet. 
5.  I perform a listadressgroupings and that command provide all the public keys of the transaction which inturn has a unique private key.
6.  So what do I have to do claim all the other MMC?  The MMC wallet is not accepting other private keys that I have.
7.  At this point do I have to point all my PTS to another address and import that key?
8.  How do I remove a privkey as well?
9.  also if I bought pre-32000 block PTS and no one has claimed those shares am I eligible to receive them or has the opportunity gone away.  I bough 200 and would like to know if they the MMC has been claimed.


This is some constructive criticism that I hope the people developing the software, defination and usage should undertake. In general, there is some major work on user friendliness that has to be accomplished in order to get this distribution process widely accepted.  It may be easy for programmers and administrators to use, but the system as a whole is clunky, not well documented. Ease of use of  the system is imperative, because the general public will not waste their time going hunting on forums and threads, let alone learn commands to process transactions.  Think of APPLE, whether you believe in the model is irrelevant...General public wants ease of use and simple and fast.  It leads to larger system acceptance and usage.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: renkcub on December 21, 2013, 12:57:23 am
Can someone link me to how to claim my MMC from PTS?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 21, 2013, 01:37:28 am
The easiest way to get all your mmc is using the protoshares wallet.dat for your memorycoin client. You should have an address on another wallet, where you can transfer the redeemed coins.

The details:
Your wallet consists of a lot of addresses, which your client will create and use "at will". While this is a good thing in terms of anonymity and usability, it can become cumbersome if you want to import private keys to another wallet. In our case you either had one address you put everything on before block 32k, or you will have to import multiple private keys. If you don't know which addresses your coins were on at that time, you will need to import all private keys (listaddressgroupings doesn't show transactions, it shows all your addresses). Importing the whole wallet works, but there may be problems later because the wallet was created by another software. To avoid this you should move the coins to an address from a wallet created by the memorycoin client.

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jbutta2k13 on December 21, 2013, 03:23:42 am
So your saying to take the protoshare dat file and make it the dat file in one Mmc wallet app and the transfer those coins to a completely different wallet?
I attempted to import all the private keys from protoshares to Mmc but I got a error code -4. Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexxy on December 21, 2013, 10:52:11 am
The easiest way to get all your mmc is using the protoshares wallet.dat for your memorycoin client. You should have an address on another wallet, where you can transfer the redeemed coins.

The details:
Your wallet consists of a lot of addresses, which your client will create and use "at will". While this is a good thing in terms of anonymity and usability, it can become cumbersome if you want to import private keys to another wallet. In our case you either had one address you put everything on before block 32k, or you will have to import multiple private keys. If you don't know which addresses your coins were on at that time, you will need to import all private keys (listaddressgroupings doesn't show transactions, it shows all your addresses). Importing the whole wallet works, but there may be problems later because the wallet was created by another software. To avoid this you should move the coins to an address from a wallet created by the memorycoin client.


In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 21, 2013, 01:30:29 pm
So your saying to take the protoshare dat file and make it the dat file in one Mmc wallet app and the transfer those coins to a completely different wallet?
I attempted to import all the private keys from protoshares to Mmc but I got a error code -4. Thanks for the help

Yes.
I encountered error -4 once, it was because i forgot unlocking the wallet using walletpassphrase.

In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins

That's new to me. Did you mine those on a pool, or solo?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: alexxy on December 21, 2013, 01:33:19 pm
In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins

That's new to me. Did you mine those on a pool, or solo?

They were solo mined
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: seraphim on December 21, 2013, 01:49:35 pm
In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins

That's new to me. Did you mine those on a pool, or solo?

They were solo mined

They should be on a seperate address for each block, if they're not imported with the wallet.dat you'll need to find out those addresses.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Riverhead on December 21, 2013, 02:05:24 pm

In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins

Here's what I did to receive all my coins.  Note that I had a mix of solo and pool mined coins.

1) Start MMC client, encrypt new wallet, let the blockchain sync, record the public address of this new wallet.
2) Exit the MMC client, copy the wallet.dat file to mmc_wallet.dat and copy in your PTS wallet.dat file.  Copy your mmc_wallet.dat somewhere safe too as a backup.  This is now your primary mmc wallet.
3) Start the client (crashed first time but worked the second) and notice you'll have 1/10th of your PTS balance as MMC
4) Send all your MMC balance to your new MMC address recorded in step 1 (account for 0.0002 transaction fee)
5) Exit the MMC client, delete the wallet.dat (this would be your pts wallet) and rename the mmc_wallet.dat back to wallet.dat
6) Restart the MMC client and enjoy all your MMC at a snigle adddress.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FreeTrade on December 21, 2013, 02:08:03 pm

In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins

Here's what I did to receive all my coins.  Note that I had a mix of solo and pool mined coins.

1) Start MMC client, encrypt new wallet, let the blockchain sync, record the public address of this new wallet.
2) Exit the MMC client, copy the wallet.dat file to mmc_wallet.dat and copy in your PTS wallet.dat file.  Copy your mmc_wallet.dat somewhere safe too as a backup.  This is now your primary mmc wallet.
3) Start the client (crashed first time but worked the second) and notice you'll have 1/10th of your PTS balance as MMC
4) Send all your PTS to your new MMC address recorded in step 1 (account for 0.0002 transaction fee)
5) Exit the MMC client, delete the wallet.dat (this would be your pts wallet) and rename the mmc_wallet.dat back to wallet.dat
6) Restart the MMC client and enjoy all your MMC at a snigle adddress.

Good clear guide - thanks. Are you accepting MMC tips?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Riverhead on December 21, 2013, 02:33:19 pm

Good clear guide - thanks. Are you accepting MMC tips?

Thank you.  I am now  :).  Sig updated.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Riverhead on December 21, 2013, 06:21:53 pm

I just got a large number of coins.  I'm going to guess that was you, FreeTrade  ;D.  Thanks!!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: jbutta2k13 on December 21, 2013, 08:33:39 pm

In this case it will import only recieved coins. Mined ones will not be imported =\ So in general question is how to import mined coins

Here's what I did to receive all my coins.  Note that I had a mix of solo and pool mined coins.

1) Start MMC client, encrypt new wallet, let the blockchain sync, record the public address of this new wallet.
2) Exit the MMC client, copy the wallet.dat file to mmc_wallet.dat and copy in your PTS wallet.dat file.  Copy your mmc_wallet.dat somewhere safe too as a backup.  This is now your primary mmc wallet.
3) Start the client (crashed first time but worked the second) and notice you'll have 1/10th of your PTS balance as MMC
4) Send all your MMC balance to your new MMC address recorded in step 1 (account for 0.0002 transaction fee)
5) Exit the MMC client, delete the wallet.dat (this would be your pts wallet) and rename the mmc_wallet.dat back to wallet.dat
6) Restart the MMC client and enjoy all your MMC at a snigle adddress.

Great guide and simpel thanks so much..tip coming!
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Riverhead on December 21, 2013, 08:50:57 pm
Great guide and simpel thanks so much..tip coming!

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: danielauhlig on December 28, 2013, 05:35:30 am
Please advise:  I had 83 Protoshares in my wallet at the time of the 32,000 block, but I only received 1.2 shares versus the 8.3 anticipated based on the 1:10 distribution dicsussed in the thread.

Can someone explain the discrepency?  My protoshares were 100% mined so I can someone explain why there is a difference?

Update:  I want to be more specific about the problem.
1.  I have mined all my shares on Ypool and I have multiple transactions from that there to my wallet. 
2.  It appears that when anyone refers to PTSwalletaddress, there doesn't appear to be a common addresss to the wallet.  this is where the confiusion comes in.  Why is there not a common wallet address? 
3.  When I label the transaction, its not a label, but rather, the name for an account. 
4.  So while I may use the wallet app, that app is does not have have a common  PTS address that stores all of the PTS share addresses that are in the wallet. 
5.  I perform a listadressgroupings and that command provide all the public keys of the transaction which inturn has a unique private key.
6.  So what do I have to do claim all the other MMC?  The MMC wallet is not accepting other private keys that I have.
7.  At this point do I have to point all my PTS to another address and import that key?
8.  How do I remove a privkey as well?
9.  also if I bought pre-32000 block PTS and no one has claimed those shares am I eligible to receive them or has the opportunity gone away.  I bough 200 and would like to know if they the MMC has been claimed.


This is some constructive criticism that I hope the people developing the software, defination and usage should undertake. In general, there is some major work on user friendliness that has to be accomplished in order to get this distribution process widely accepted.  It may be easy for programmers and administrators to use, but the system as a whole is clunky, not well documented. Ease of use of  the system is imperative, because the general public will not waste their time going hunting on forums and threads, let alone learn commands to process transactions.  Think of APPLE, whether you believe in the model is irrelevant...General public wants ease of use and simple and fast.  It leads to larger system acceptance and usage.

Yes finally someone has said it. IM the general public. Though I have been buying cryptos for good year and a half all this programming issues are very hard for me to sift through. Ideologically I am trying to support this system but you guys make it very hard. Starting with downloading the QT where I have somehow had to figure out how to add nodes (dont even know what that is) its taken me hours. Really the fundamentals have to be easy and right. I have also bought some angelshares that lie somewhere in the abyss with no receipt or reference other then in my btc wallet that they were sent to the angel share wallet address that is given here on the forum.
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: SpecialFX on December 28, 2013, 01:41:37 pm
anyone found a aes is host?

also is there instructions on how to run the miner stand alons with a payout address?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FaSan on December 28, 2013, 06:29:55 pm
Special News from BigVern of Cryptsy (on Twitter) :

Quote
We will not be participating in the PTS -> MemoryCoin conversion.  If that is something you want, then withdraw to your local wallet.



... of corse is late. But they are start to look on MMC  8) 8)



FaSan
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: hjlow on January 01, 2014, 07:09:58 pm
sorry for newb question but where do I find the wallet.dat file? not in the same folder as the binary?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FaSan on January 01, 2014, 07:11:40 pm
sorry for newb question but where do I find the wallet.dat file? not in the same folder as the binary?


In Linux : /root/.memorycoin

In Windows : C:\Users\*youruser*\AppData\Roaming\MemoryCoin



FaSan
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: hjlow on January 01, 2014, 07:18:36 pm
thanks:)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: pvaladares on January 01, 2014, 09:23:56 pm

In Windows : C:\Users\*youruser*\AppData\Roaming\MemoryCoin

Better use : %appdata%\MemoryCoin
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: FaSan on January 02, 2014, 12:35:21 am

In Windows : C:\Users\*youruser*\AppData\Roaming\MemoryCoin

Better use : %appdata%\MemoryCoin


Right  ;)
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: santaclause102 on January 08, 2014, 11:20:18 am
At about which date (or before) would I have to have had PTS to now claim MMC?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: noobster on January 08, 2014, 11:24:23 am
At about which date (or before) would I have to have had PTS to now claim MMC?

you were supposed to have some fund in your pts wallet at the time the given block was created, this lets you import your key into mmc wallet and get your share
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: santaclause102 on January 08, 2014, 11:39:14 am
Sure I know but when was that? When the coin was announced here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370806.0 ? That would be 14.12.13
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Unosuke on January 08, 2014, 12:05:58 pm
Check if your PTS address is in this list http://pastebin.com/39dp4snX (I don't know if this is the full list)

Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: santaclause102 on January 08, 2014, 12:51:42 pm
Nop its not. I bought my first PTS in the middle of December but left them at bter.com till I think after Christmas..
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: Polke on January 08, 2014, 02:57:00 pm
What to do if my address is in that list?
Title: Re: Distribution At Block 32000 - MemoryCoin 2.0
Post by: santaclause102 on January 08, 2014, 03:02:13 pm
What to do if my address is in that list?

http://protoshares.net/redeem.html