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Title: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: hpenvy2 on January 31, 2015, 08:31:20 pm
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13256.msg173664#msg173664

How about putting that bounty toward the Bitcoin Wallet proposal?

"We need to build a bitcoin wallet.  branded as a bitcoin wallet, that allows hedging of bitcoin with no counterparty  risk.   Bitshares is never mentioned.  perhaps bitusdis mentioned, but it is certainly not front and centre.   IF we do that then we begin a stampede into bitUSD on the next bitcoin price drop.   And we dont have to pay a penny in advertising.  Coindesk, word of mouth and reddit will do all the work for us.   You won't be able to get Barry Silbert and every other pundit to shut up about how bitcoins volatility problem has been solved on CNBC." Bitmarket

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13882.msg180557#msg180557

Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Empirical1.1 on January 31, 2015, 09:20:03 pm
Sounds interesting.

Are there any examples & numbers of any other products that have previously been integrated into a Bitcoin branded wallet and enjoyed success as a result?
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: NewMine on January 31, 2015, 09:22:36 pm
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13256.msg173664#msg173664

How about putting that bounty toward the Bitcoin Wallet proposal?

"We need to build a bitcoin wallet.  branded as a bitcoin wallet, that allows hedging of bitcoin with no counterparty  risk.   Bitshares is never mentioned.  perhaps bitusdis mentioned, but it is certainly not front and centre.   IF we do that then we begin a stampede into bitUSD on the next bitcoin price drop.   And we dont have to pay a penny in advertising.  Coindesk, word of mouth and reddit will do all the work for us.   You won't be able to get Barry Silbert and every other pundit to shut up about how bitcoins volatility problem has been solved on CNBC." Bitmarket

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13882.msg180557#msg180557

How or why should Bitshares be mentioned when we don't even have a website or a complete product?

I only say this because that is yours and others response to the criticisms of the marketing teams, past and present, lack of of marketing.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: hpenvy2 on January 31, 2015, 09:37:38 pm
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13256.msg173664#msg173664

How about putting that bounty toward the Bitcoin Wallet proposal?

"We need to build a bitcoin wallet.  branded as a bitcoin wallet, that allows hedging of bitcoin with no counterparty  risk.   Bitshares is never mentioned.  perhaps bitusdis mentioned, but it is certainly not front and centre.   IF we do that then we begin a stampede into bitUSD on the next bitcoin price drop.   And we dont have to pay a penny in advertising.  Coindesk, word of mouth and reddit will do all the work for us.   You won't be able to get Barry Silbert and every other pundit to shut up about how bitcoins volatility problem has been solved on CNBC." Bitmarket

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13882.msg180557#msg180557

How or why should Bitshares be mentioned when we don't even have a website or a complete product?

I only say this because that is yours and others response to the criticisms of the marketing teams, past and present, lack of of marketing.

Website is up.  BM mentioned we might see the lightweight wallet in the next few days in his last Mumble session.  Let's be clear, my criticism about the marketing was I didn't believe the promises that work was being done behind the scenes were actually being done. I stepped up, offered my small contribution and watched Nullstreet grow. Concerning the 1M bounty, I rather see those  funds moved toward developing a Bitcoin wallet with BitUSD integration than promoting a product that's not easy to use beyond the biggest BitShares followers. Timing is everything, this is a great way to get 100,000+ eyeballs on our solution. We need something to kick off the network effect.

Like Bitmarket outlined, a Bitcoin wallet that addresses the volatility issue with our solution is a win/win.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sumantso on January 31, 2015, 10:21:01 pm
If we have 1M to burn, offer it to Btc-e. The marketcap growth will pay it back with reduced dilution and/or ability to hire a lot more employees.

I had a detailed proposal regarding how to award it in parts and concentrate on making them add BitFiat deposit option initially.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: CLains on January 31, 2015, 10:23:32 pm
To my ears that ploy sounds like pure marketing genius.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: hpenvy2 on January 31, 2015, 10:44:39 pm
If we have 1M to burn, offer it to Btc-e. The marketcap growth will pay it back with reduced dilution and/or ability to hire a lot more employees.

I had a detailed proposal regarding how to award it in parts and concentrate on making them add BitFiat deposit option initially.

It's been over a year since they added a coin. I would love to see our options on there, it just doesn't seem to be a priority for them.

It doesn't hurt to make the offer.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: bitmarket on January 31, 2015, 10:48:25 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Xeldal on January 31, 2015, 10:50:52 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

 +5% +5%
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: ticklebiscuit on January 31, 2015, 10:57:18 pm
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13256.msg173664#msg173664

How about putting that bounty toward the Bitcoin Wallet proposal?

"We need to build a bitcoin wallet.  branded as a bitcoin wallet, that allows hedging of bitcoin with no counterparty  risk.   Bitshares is never mentioned.  perhaps bitusdis mentioned, but it is certainly not front and centre.   IF we do that then we begin a stampede into bitUSD on the next bitcoin price drop.   And we dont have to pay a penny in advertising.  Coindesk, word of mouth and reddit will do all the work for us.   You won't be able to get Barry Silbert and every other pundit to shut up about how bitcoins volatility problem has been solved on CNBC." Bitmarket

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13882.msg180557#msg180557

This guy is one ofnthe smartest sgrotes on the planet.  Bitcoin wallet that stealthily advertising your tech. 
Jump on the train to bitcoin/bitshares marriage and honeymoon.  Maybe we an let people pay to watch the  "behind the scenes" honeymoon footage. As long as they are not playing bingo ot shoild bring customers.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: hpenvy2 on January 31, 2015, 11:00:36 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

This reminds me of your BM blog challenge. We already have infrastructure to help their large user base.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: donkeypong on January 31, 2015, 11:48:28 pm
I would support a bounty for this.

Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: GaltReport on February 01, 2015, 12:33:07 am
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

 +5% +5%

 +5% - super idea
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: bitmarket on February 01, 2015, 12:50:07 am
I don't think it even needs a bounty.  The regular delegate system is working well.

It is relatively low hanging fruit and is already 90% done.

bitshares lite wallet is in final  initial alpha testing.
shape shift API and lens code is open source and ready to use.   And I have a friend with an established bitcoin wallet that is open source. He cannot dedicate developers to doing this but is happy to push it live in his existing wallet with thousands of users.   We are talking a month or two tops of development if someone from this community can do that.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: merlin0113 on February 01, 2015, 01:21:42 am
I don't think it even needs a bounty.  The regular delegate system is working well.

It is relatively low hanging fruit and is already 90% done.

bitshares lite wallet is in final  initial alpha testing.
shape shift API and lens code is open source and ready to use.   And I have a friend with an established bitcoin wallet that is open source. He cannot dedicate developers to doing this but is happy to push it live in his existing wallet with thousands of users.   We are talking a month or two tops of development if someone from this community can do that.

+1 to small input, big payback.

Bitshares has many technical work been done and to be done, this is very fundamental work and everything including markting plan built on that. But maybe to creat another direction, what about we start trying to run bitshares like running real companies? Most companies is sales-oriented, i.e. let marketing initiatives lead the project.

Maybe we are already doing this, but not enough I think because we ignored many brilliant marketing ideas and this bitcoin wallet idea is brilliant.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Stan on February 01, 2015, 02:11:18 am
I don't think it even needs a bounty.  The regular delegate system is working well.

It is relatively low hanging fruit and is already 90% done.

bitshares lite wallet is in final  initial alpha testing.
shape shift API and lens code is open source and ready to use.   And I have a friend with an established bitcoin wallet that is open source. He cannot dedicate developers to doing this but is happy to push it live in his existing wallet with thousands of users.   We are talking a month or two tops of development if someone from this community can do that.

+1 to small input, big payback.

Bitshares has many technical work been done and to be done, this is very fundamental work and everything including markting plan built on that. But maybe to creat another direction, what about we start trying to run bitshares like running real companies? Most companies is sales-oriented, i.e. let marketing initiatives lead the project.

Maybe we are already doing this, but not enough I think because we ignored many brilliant marketing ideas and this bitcoin wallet idea is brilliant.

What I love about Max is that he doesn't just sell what we've got, he tells us what will sell. 
Priceless.


I agree that marketing should lead.  But saying that brilliant ideas are being ignored is missing the point.  There is no central authority you need to get permission from!  We are decentralized now.

Market your ideas to the stakeholders and potential new developers.
 
You guys have the talent to completely change our direction by just campaigning for your ideas and selling them to the voters to elect the dev delegates you have sold on the idea of joining us to do it.

You shouldn't be waiting for any core team to make your great ideas happen.  Carpe Diem!

Bottom line. 
If its not happening it's because it hasn't been sold internally.
Who has the greatest ability and skill to fix that?

:)

Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: werneo on February 01, 2015, 02:13:44 am
If we have 1M to burn, offer it to Btc-e. The marketcap growth will pay it back with reduced dilution and/or ability to hire a lot more employees.

I had a detailed proposal regarding how to award it in parts and concentrate on making them add BitFiat deposit option initially.

yes  +5%
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: merlin0113 on February 01, 2015, 03:16:40 am
I don't think it even needs a bounty.  The regular delegate system is working well.

It is relatively low hanging fruit and is already 90% done.

bitshares lite wallet is in final  initial alpha testing.
shape shift API and lens code is open source and ready to use.   And I have a friend with an established bitcoin wallet that is open source. He cannot dedicate developers to doing this but is happy to push it live in his existing wallet with thousands of users.   We are talking a month or two tops of development if someone from this community can do that.

+1 to small input, big payback.

Bitshares has many technical work been done and to be done, this is very fundamental work and everything including markting plan built on that. But maybe to creat another direction, what about we start trying to run bitshares like running real companies? Most companies is sales-oriented, i.e. let marketing initiatives lead the project.

Maybe we are already doing this, but not enough I think because we ignored many brilliant marketing ideas and this bitcoin wallet idea is brilliant.

What I love about Max is that he doesn't just sell what we've got, he tells us what will sell. 
Priceless.


I agree that marketing should lead.  But saying that brilliant ideas are being ignored is missing the point.  There is no central authority you need to get permission from!  We are decentralized now.

Market your ideas to the stakeholders and potential new developers.
 
You guys have the talent to completely change our direction by just campaigning for your ideas and selling them to the voters to elect the dev delegates you have sold on the idea of joining us to do it.

You shouldn't be waiting for any core team to make your great ideas happen.  Carpe Diem!

Bottom line. 
If its not happening it's because it hasn't been sold internally.
Who has the greatest ability and skill to fix that?

:)

You are right, maybe we have this "guy", maybe not. But I think the guy must be passionate about bitshares and be responsible and resourceful. For a early product like bitshares, I would say PASSION is the most important factor though.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 12:29:02 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

I like this idea as it doesn't require a bounty or current developer time to attempt.

The only minor concern I can think of is that by not actively promoting BitShares then Bitcoin users are ambivalent to the product they are using. This gives Bitcoin time to develop a similar solution maybe via side chains? (I don't know anything about technical stuff.) So during this window of opportunity we have to promote BitShares and BitAssets, we would have promoted & empowered Bitcoin with our USP and then be made obsolete once they can replace us with their Bitcoin collateralised or other solution and users wouldn't know the difference.

Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: chewchew on February 01, 2015, 12:59:47 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

I like this idea as it doesn't require a bounty or current developer time to attempt.

The only minor concern I can think of is that by not actively promoting BitShares then Bitcoin users are ambivalent to the product they are using. This gives Bitcoin time to develop a similar solution maybe via side chains? (I don't know anything about technical stuff.) So during this window of opportunity we have to promote BitShares and BitAssets, we would have promoted & empowered Bitcoin with our USP and then be made obsolete once they can replace us with their Bitcoin collateralised or other solution and users wouldn't know the difference.

Is there actually any chance of side chains working? Last I heard bitfury was trying to make it so that mining hardware had a fingerprint so that you would know who bad actors were because it is free to mine sidechains, meaning free to attack. At that point, you have to wonder what is the point.

Kind of like coinapult locks. Once you get to the point where you are trusting some guy in panama with your money, what is the point? Just get a bank account.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 01:09:00 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

I like this idea as it doesn't require a bounty or current developer time to attempt.

The only minor concern I can think of is that by not actively promoting BitShares then Bitcoin users are ambivalent to the product they are using. This gives Bitcoin time to develop a similar solution maybe via side chains? (I don't know anything about technical stuff.) So during this window of opportunity we have to promote BitShares and BitAssets, we would have promoted & empowered Bitcoin with our USP and then be made obsolete once they can replace us with their Bitcoin collateralised or other solution and users wouldn't know the difference.

Is there actually any chance of side chains working? Last I heard bitfury was trying to make it so that mining hardware had a fingerprint so that you would know who bad actors were because it is free to mine sidechains, meaning free to attack. At that point, you have to wonder what is the point.

Kind of like coinapult locks. Once you get to the point where you are trusting some guy in panama with your money, what is the point? Just get a bank account.

Ok that's good. As I say I know little about technical stuff.

If we didn't actively brand BitShares & built our BitAsset market around & via Bitcoin wallets that could be easily replaced by big Bitcoin interests, once they have an alternative Bitcoin based/other  solution, without our entire customer base knowing the difference, because they didn't even know they were using BitShares that would be a problem.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: bitsapphire on February 01, 2015, 02:01:38 pm
The problem is the Bitcoin side of things. You need a trust-free or at least low trust setup for a decentralized exchange to be possible.

We've already described our proposed layered approach to the Internet of Money to the core Bitshares team about 3 weeks ago on the regular Monday Skype call. The main bottleneck would be the Open Transactions federated servers (http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php/Voting_Pools) to Bitshares integration. The second bottleneck seems to be the Bitshares client itself, which was not intended for an Copay-Insight (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13857.0) like setup. We're already close to having a working Hyperledger-Bitshares (https://github.com/bitsapphire/Hyperledger_cpp) integration.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sudo on February 01, 2015, 02:34:05 pm
100 w BTS is worth a lot of money Why not use as “”GUI user experience  improvement “”special bonus?


WHY not put the "user experienceimprovement" as the highest priority Development task
does  BTS ever  Attaches great importance to the user experience????
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sschechter on February 01, 2015, 03:31:13 pm
100 w BTS is worth a lot of money Why not use as “”GUI user experience  improvement “”special bonus?

WHY not put the "user experienceimprovement" as the highest priority Development task
does  BTS ever  Attaches great importance to the user experience????


 +5% +5%

You could have the greatest, most feature rich software on the planet, but no one would use if it only had a CLI.  User experience is everything.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: btswildpig on February 01, 2015, 04:27:45 pm
use part of the 1 million to purchase a Windows OS Desktop computer for each dev , in order to experience the pain that Windows users have been experiencing .
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sschechter on February 01, 2015, 07:22:19 pm
use part of the 1 million to purchase a Windows OS Desktop computer for each dev , in order to experience the pain that Windows users have been experiencing .

Its been months since I've tried, but spent many frustrating hours trying to build all the dependencies from source and couldn't do it.  Partly my fault for insisting on using Visual Studio, but certainly frustrating indeed.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: bitmarket on February 01, 2015, 09:57:20 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

I like this idea as it doesn't require a bounty or current developer time to attempt.

The only minor concern I can think of is that by not actively promoting BitShares then Bitcoin users are ambivalent to the product they are using. This gives Bitcoin time to develop a similar solution maybe via side chains? (I don't know anything about technical stuff.) So during this window of opportunity we have to promote BitShares and BitAssets, we would have promoted & empowered Bitcoin with our USP and then be made obsolete once they can replace us with their Bitcoin collateralised or other solution and users wouldn't know the difference.

The concern is worthy of consideration, but I think the upside massively outweighs the potential risk.  Also I have thought about it a bit more and branding of bitUSD will be important.  Still no bitshares branding though.   Getting bitUSD into many users hands is of utmost important.   If that happens market cap skyrockets, devs flood to bitshares, and network effects kick ass.   There is no other opportunity that even comes close to this that I am aware of.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Myshadow on February 01, 2015, 10:48:21 pm
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

I like this idea as it doesn't require a bounty or current developer time to attempt.

The only minor concern I can think of is that by not actively promoting BitShares then Bitcoin users are ambivalent to the product they are using. This gives Bitcoin time to develop a similar solution maybe via side chains? (I don't know anything about technical stuff.) So during this window of opportunity we have to promote BitShares and BitAssets, we would have promoted & empowered Bitcoin with our USP and then be made obsolete once they can replace us with their Bitcoin collateralised or other solution and users wouldn't know the difference.

The concern is worthy of consideration, but I think the upside massively outweighs the potential risk.  Also I have thought about it a bit more and branding of bitUSD will be important.  Still no bitshares branding though.   Getting bitUSD into many users hands is of utmost important.   If that happens market cap skyrockets, devs flood to bitshares, and network effects kick ass.   There is no other opportunity that even comes close to this that I am aware of.

https://twitter.com/BitConsultants/status/559449950036037632 if theres someone who knows any of these wallet Devs, i think we'd be better off making these guys aware of the superior decentralized system we have instead of reinventing the wheel...
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: Empirical1.2 on February 02, 2015, 12:15:17 am
We are bitcoins killer app.   If we put our egos aside and make the best bitcoin wallet possible with built in hedging, millions will flow into bitUSD and the users will never have evenheard of bitshares.

The bitcoin headline reads....

"Receive and send bitcoin. Hedge bitcoin price without counter party risk.  Bitcoins killer app is here."

I like this idea as it doesn't require a bounty or current developer time to attempt.

The only minor concern I can think of is that by not actively promoting BitShares then Bitcoin users are ambivalent to the product they are using. This gives Bitcoin time to develop a similar solution maybe via side chains? (I don't know anything about technical stuff.) So during this window of opportunity we have to promote BitShares and BitAssets, we would have promoted & empowered Bitcoin with our USP and then be made obsolete once they can replace us with their Bitcoin collateralised or other solution and users wouldn't know the difference.

The concern is worthy of consideration, but I think the upside massively outweighs the potential risk.  Also I have thought about it a bit more and branding of bitUSD will be important.  Still no bitshares branding though.   Getting bitUSD into many users hands is of utmost important.   If that happens market cap skyrockets, devs flood to bitshares, and network effects kick ass.   There is no other opportunity that even comes close to this that I am aware of.

There are already 3 BitGolds on the market, I don't think BitUSD guarantees us a lot of brand protection. Bitcoin could plausibly create a Bitcoin backed 'BitUSD' and it would fit their brand quite nicely especially if the average user didn't  know they were previously using a BitShares BitUSD. I think you're right about the upside being greater than the risks though.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: bitmarley on February 02, 2015, 12:52:38 am
Definitely agree. Bitshares wallet with bitcoin and shapeshift features is a killer app. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13882.0;all
Bitshares can do shapeshift without counter-party risk too! https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13711.0

The race is on for the first smart wallet with bitUSD or equivalents wins. Bitshares should focus on winning this race.


 
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: arhag on February 02, 2015, 01:03:59 am
use part of the 1 million to purchase a Windows OS Desktop computer for each dev , in order to experience the pain that Windows users have been experiencing .

They should buy a WIndows OS laptop with a HDD and 4 2 GB of RAM and optimize the full client GUI for that machine.

Edit: I made the 4 GB into 2 GB because they would likely only test out the client running alone on a fresh reboot, rather than a typical use case of using the client while also using a browser with many tabs open plus a couple other apps.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sudo on February 02, 2015, 08:15:30 am
mac also can run windows
two ways
1Boot Camp
2 virtual machine(Parallels or vmware……)
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sudo on February 02, 2015, 08:22:47 am
now the bts wallet  lack of humanized design
BTS  Can't  backup wallet automatically  in different harddisk  partition  eg:D:\  instead of  c:\,
newbee may lose their BTS because of this

BTS  Can't   easily define the data location in menu &setup wizard

BTS  lack Wizard mode for newbee

BTS  lack help document embedded


in china  Windows users in the majority , NOT Attaches great importance to the user experience in  Windows environment , how to promote BTS???????
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: xeroc on February 02, 2015, 08:52:12 am
now the bts wallet  lack of humanized design
BTS  Can't  backup wallet automatically  in different harddisk  partition  eg:D:\  instead of  c:\,
newbee may lose their BTS because of this

BTS  Can't   easily define the data location in menu &setup wizard

BTS  lack Wizard mode for newbee

BTS  lack help document embedded


in china  Windows users in the majority , NOT Attaches great importance to the user experience in  Windows environment , how to promote BTS???????
why not create a wizard and documentation intead of complaining all the time?
BTW, you can submit bugreports to github too.
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: btswildpig on February 02, 2015, 09:32:55 am
now the bts wallet  lack of humanized design
BTS  Can't  backup wallet automatically  in different harddisk  partition  eg:D:\  instead of  c:\,
newbee may lose their BTS because of this

BTS  Can't   easily define the data location in menu &setup wizard

BTS  lack Wizard mode for newbee

BTS  lack help document embedded


in china  Windows users in the majority , NOT Attaches great importance to the user experience in  Windows environment , how to promote BTS???????
why not create a wizard and documentation intead of complaining all the time?
BTW, you can submit bugreports to github too.

he already did and got ignored months ago , that's why he has been upset .
Title: Re: 1M Bounty BM Proposed on Jan 14 - Bitcoin Wallet Instead
Post by: sudo on February 02, 2015, 09:51:57 am
now the bts wallet  lack of humanized design
BTS  Can't  backup wallet automatically  in different harddisk  partition  eg:D:\  instead of  c:\,
newbee may lose their BTS because of this

BTS  Can't   easily define the data location in menu &setup wizard

BTS  lack Wizard mode for newbee

BTS  lack help document embedded


in china  Windows users in the majority , NOT Attaches great importance to the user experience in  Windows environment , how to promote BTS???????
why not create a wizard and documentation intead of complaining all the time?
BTW, you can submit bugreports to github too.

i'am bts shareholdersnot Block chain employee

bugreports on github& suggesttion in forum  you can check the The historical record


create a wizard  need Programming skills  i don't have
help documentation need dive into bts &know all the design details&functions