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Title: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: ubits on February 05, 2015, 02:34:24 am
https://bter.com/voting

Trading page  https://bter.com/trade/bitgld_btc

P.S. Title and post updated
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: LRENZ on February 05, 2015, 02:50:53 am
Cool I'll keep voting.

Funny how the top voted one is something called StabilityShares ha
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Ander on February 05, 2015, 03:53:39 am
Remember to vote for it 10 time,s not just once.  You can just click 10 times in a row.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: LRENZ on February 05, 2015, 04:48:32 am
I must of voted over 50 times already, I'm using up lots of BTR points though I don't get 10 free votes an hour I get 3.

Oh you get "1 to 10" votes an hour..
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: toast on February 05, 2015, 05:13:10 am
Don't spend bter points on this, they're already adding it.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: xeroc on February 05, 2015, 07:44:22 am
Don't spend bter points on this, they're already adding it.
lol ...

awesome work, toast!
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Markus on February 05, 2015, 07:48:52 am
What else can you spend BTR on then?

... where's BitSILVER and BitBTC?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: vegolino on February 05, 2015, 09:16:48 am
Don't spend bter points on this, they're already adding it.
  +5%
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: cass on February 05, 2015, 09:25:43 am
Don't spend bter points on this, they're already adding it.
lol ...

awesome work, toast!

yup !  +5%
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: cass on February 05, 2015, 09:26:20 am
What else can you spend BTR on then?

... where's BitSILVER and BitBTC?

Just curious- bitSilver isn't listed on CMC assets - any idea!?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on February 05, 2015, 10:06:09 am
I did not read toasts reply and voted 20 times or so
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: joele on February 05, 2015, 01:38:09 pm
BitGOLD at bter is up https://bter.com/trade/BITGLD_BTC
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: xeroc on February 05, 2015, 01:42:06 pm
BitGOLD at bter is up https://bter.com/trade/BITGLD_BTC
bam .. eat THAT .. bitreserve
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: graffenwalder on February 05, 2015, 03:15:07 pm
Nice. But i think they should add bitusd:bitgold market too.
It's a bit tricky to look at the spotprice and calculate how much BTC that should be.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 03:26:31 pm
It's not yet possible to deposit bitgold :(
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Empirical1.2 on February 05, 2015, 04:15:09 pm
Nice. But i think they should add bitusd:bitgold market too.
It's a bit tricky to look at the spotprice and calculate how much BTC that should be.

The USD market page is dead. https://bter.com/marketlist/USD

It would be great, but unlikely though if they had a $ conversion though, so you could see how much the BTC per BitGold equalled in $ terms at the current CMC BTC-USD exchange rate.

Edit: It would be nice if they could use the full green BTS logo for BTC/BitUSD & the full gold BTS logo for BitGLD/BTC from Cass's options here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11753.msg155998#msg155998

(Same for Coinmarketcap)
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: spartako on February 05, 2015, 05:16:41 pm
It's not yet possible to deposit bitgold :(

I'm able to deposit bitgold now!
You can see my sell order ;)
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 05:31:37 pm
It's not yet possible to deposit bitgold :(

I'm able to deposit bitgold now!
You can see my sell order ;)

Ah, you have to go through the trading page to deposit! I couldn't figure that out.

For anyone else who wants to deposit bitgold you can go directly with this link: https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/BITGLD
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Ander on February 05, 2015, 05:39:18 pm
Lol that spread. :)

So do we still need to keep voting for bitGLD, or is it enabled?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: matt608 on February 05, 2015, 05:54:23 pm
Why does it have bitGLD, it's bitGOLD.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: toast on February 05, 2015, 05:56:01 pm
Why does it have bitGLD, it's bitGOLD.

character limit
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 06:35:42 pm
I think we should consider making standardized 4 character monikers for all bitassets.

so like BUSD, BCNY, BGLD, BOIL, BSLV. It's useful for exchanges and coinmarketcap.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Voting List On Bter- Vote Now
Post by: ubits on February 05, 2015, 07:27:21 pm
I think we should consider making standardized 4 character monikers for all bitassets.

so like BUSD, BCNY, BGLD, BOIL, BSLV. It's useful for exchanges and coinmarketcap.

 +5% +5%
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Ander on February 05, 2015, 08:11:53 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: clayop on February 05, 2015, 08:17:57 pm
That spread... We need 'sacrificing minority' who continuously shorts BitGold or BitSilver regardless of loss.
Or we need dramatic price increase of BTS that induce people to short BitGold.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: onceuponatime on February 05, 2015, 08:23:56 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.

Better to do it now then rather than put it off for later when it could be even more annoying.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: speedy on February 05, 2015, 08:28:34 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.

Better to do it now then rather than put it off for later when it could be even more annoying.

I say stick with bitXYZ. Lets reinforce our bitGLD and bitUSD brand names.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 08:40:18 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.

Better to do it now then rather than put it off for later when it could be even more annoying.

I say stick with bitXYZ. Lets reinforce our bitGLD and bitUSD brand names.

bitXYZ will always be the brand names, but they are too long to be monikers. The cryptocurrency ecosystem has been shaped around 3-4 character length monikers, so you get all kinds of weird display bugs when you have names that are longer. Try to see what happens when you choose bitusd on shapeshift :P

I also think it's very likely that we will get discrepancies between exchanges with bitgold if we don't standardize it. Some will call it BITGOLD, some will call it BITGLD. So we will have to make some of them change anyway.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Ander on February 05, 2015, 09:13:10 pm
bitXYZ will always be the brand names, but they are too long to be monikers. The cryptocurrency ecosystem has been shaped around 3-4 character length monikers, so you get all kinds of weird display bugs when you have names that are longer. Try to see what happens when you choose bitusd on shapeshift :P

I also think it's very likely that we will get discrepancies between exchanges with bitgold if we don't standardize it. Some will call it BITGOLD, some will call it BITGLD. So we will have to make some of them change anyway.

Good point!
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Empirical1.2 on February 05, 2015, 09:21:06 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.

Better to do it now then rather than put it off for later when it could be even more annoying.

I say stick with bitXYZ. Lets reinforce our bitGLD and bitUSD brand names.

Absolutely try use 'Bit' wherever possible if you want that to be the brand name.

The majority of companies try to build a brand and brand loyalty. All these ideas about being in a Bitcoin wallet without people knowing they're using BitShares or becoming known by 4 letter moniker everywhere instead of BitXYZ wherever possible is incorrect to me.  Brand recognition is very important.

Either we want to be BitGold or we want to be BGLD. If we want to be BitGold then we have to use it wherever possible.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 09:23:01 pm
I am trying to get market moving so I bought 1 BitGOLD and sent it to Bter. Need advise with a price please.
 At first my price was 5.867 BTC for one BitGOLD 5.867 BTC x $ 217 = $ 1273.13 which is approx. what I paid for it BTS 125796 x 0.010134 = $1274.81.

Message  received from Bter:

Please confirm SELL order:
Price:   5.86700000
Volume:   1.000 BIT
Warning:   Your SELL price is 98.8% LOWER than the average market price, please double check it.

If anybody knows what I am doing wrong please advise. 
Aloha  :)
Edit: Or should I buy some more of CFSGOLD  :)

5.87ish is the correct price of bitgold/btc. Bter is just being weird because the current orders are so strange. The cryptohedge gold hedgebot will be ready tonight or tomorrow, and will slowly begin to populate the order book, but the more the merrier! :D
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 05, 2015, 09:24:11 pm
I am trying to get market moving so I bought 1 BitGOLD and sent it to Bter. Need advise with a price please.
 At first my price was 5.867 BTC for one BitGOLD 5.867 BTC x $ 217 = $ 1273.13 which is approx. what I paid for it BTS 125796 x 0.010134 = $1274.81.

Message  received from Bter:

Please confirm SELL order:
Price:   5.86700000
Volume:   1.000 BIT
Warning:   Your SELL price is 98.8% LOWER than the average market price, please double check it.

If anybody knows what I am doing wrong please advise. 
Aloha  :)
Edit: Or should I buy some more of CFSGOLD  :)

5.87ish is the correct price of bitgold/btc. Bter is just being weird because the current orders are so strange. The cryptohedge gold hedgebot will be ready tonight or tomorrow, and will slowly begin to populate the order book, but the more the merrier! :D
Thanks Rune  :)
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 09:38:16 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.

Better to do it now then rather than put it off for later when it could be even more annoying.

I say stick with bitXYZ. Lets reinforce our bitGLD and bitUSD brand names.

Absolutely try use 'Bit' wherever possible if you want that to be the brand name.

The majority of companies try to build a brand and brand loyalty. All these ideas about being in a Bitcoin wallet without people knowing they're using BitShares or becoming known by 4 letter moniker everywhere instead of BitXYZ wherever possible is incorrect to me.  Brand recognition is very important.

Either we want to be BitGold or we want to be BGLD. If we want to be BitGold then we have to use it wherever possible.
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Well, bter has had to call it BITGLD because they cannot support more than 6 characters. If we go by this paradigm of name = symbol, then we'll have to change bitgold to BITGLD (I think it actually used to be this way?).

The way I see it people always expect an asset name and a trading symbol, and it would actually be a brand advantage for us if our bitgold became the first bitgold to have a symbol and become more like a "real" coin/asset that people are aware of, and understand can be traded.
 
Bitcoin - BTC
BitShares - BTS
BitGold - BGLD
BitUSD - BUSD

and so on. I have to admit BOIL doesn't look too inviting :P Maybe there's a naming system that looks better?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Empirical1.2 on February 05, 2015, 09:55:22 pm
but all the exchanges that have added bitassets so far have called them bitXYZ not bXYZ.  Making them switch might annoy them.

Better to do it now then rather than put it off for later when it could be even more annoying.

I say stick with bitXYZ. Lets reinforce our bitGLD and bitUSD brand names.

Absolutely try use 'Bit' wherever possible if you want that to be the brand name.

The majority of companies try to build a brand and brand loyalty. All these ideas about being in a Bitcoin wallet without people knowing they're using BitShares or becoming known by 4 letter moniker everywhere instead of BitXYZ wherever possible is incorrect to me.  Brand recognition is very important.

Either we want to be BitGold or we want to be BGLD. If we want to be BitGold then we have to use it wherever possible.

Well, bter has had to call it BITGLD because they cannot support more than 6 characters. If we go by this paradigm of name = symbol, then we'll have to change bitgold to BITGLD (I think it actually used to be this way?).

The way I see it people always expect an asset name and a trading symbol, and it would actually be a brand advantage for us if our bitgold became the first bitgold to have a symbol and become more like a "real" coin/asset that people are aware of, and understand can be traded.
 
Bitcoin - BTC
BitShares - BTS
BitGold - BGLD
BitUSD - BUSD

and so on. I have to admit BOIL doesn't look too inviting :P Maybe there's a naming system that looks better?

Yes. I think you're right actually.

I think we should consider making standardized 4 character monikers for all bitassets.

so like BUSD, BCNY, BGLD, BOIL, BSLV. It's useful for exchanges and coinmarketcap.

I saw you mentioned coinmarketcap earlier and I thought you meant change from BitGold to BGLD under 'name' on CMC.,
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: bobmaloney on February 05, 2015, 10:01:25 pm
There is no reason we couldn't try to specify lowercase "bit" for the full names, while also using lowercase "b" for the monikers/abbreviations.

bGLD = Bitshares bitGOLD
bUSD = Bitshares bitUSD
bEUR = Bitshares bitEURO

Sent from the tiny wrinkles in my brain via mind bullets!

Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: onceuponatime on February 05, 2015, 10:11:22 pm
BITGLD Withdrawal


Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Ander on February 05, 2015, 10:16:00 pm
BITGLD Withdrawal

Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!


Lol.  They need to fix that.  bitGLD is probably the only thing they've ever had on their site that is worth anywhere near what a BTC is worth, let alone worth more.  The .5 fee is probably a default that is totally fair for normal things but absurd here.

Actually I find it pretty hilarious.  $600+ free to withdraw lol. 
(I wouldnt find it funny if I had sent a bitGLD to them though). 
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 10:23:04 pm
BITGLD Withdrawal


Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!


Hahaha this is hilarious. Bitgold = most expensive altcoin ever?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 05, 2015, 10:38:44 pm
BITGLD Withdrawal


Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!

It must be mistake. Where is the business logic?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Rune on February 05, 2015, 11:17:20 pm
BITGLD Withdrawal


Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!

It must be mistake. Where is the business logic?

Don't worry it's 100% a mistake. I'm sure they will fix it when they're made aware of it.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Ander on February 05, 2015, 11:19:49 pm
BITGLD Withdrawal


Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!

It must be mistake. Where is the business logic?

Its a mistake.  That is the default withdrawal fee for most coins.  They didnt think about it.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: joele on February 06, 2015, 03:17:05 am
0.5 bitGold withdrawal fee that is 2.95 BTC or $643 :D
Simply means no withdrawal at this moment.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: monsterer on February 06, 2015, 08:12:09 am
BITGLD Withdrawal


Minimum 0.6 BITGLD, Maximum 1000 BITGLD
Fee:    0% + 0.5 BITGLD (No fee for Bter Code).


That is outrageous!!!


Is that half an ounce of gold withdrawal fee?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 06, 2015, 10:49:43 am
De we know if anybody contacted Bter to inform them about this outrageous mistake?
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: Rune on February 06, 2015, 02:57:05 pm
I already contacted them, I assume they will change it soon.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 06, 2015, 05:05:12 pm
I already contacted them, I assume they will change it soon.
Great I contacted them as well so hopefully they will  correct it today.
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: onceuponatime on February 07, 2015, 04:58:16 am
I already contacted them, I assume they will change it soon.
Great I contacted them as well so hopefully they will  correct it today.

Still at 0.5 withdrawal fee.  I hope nobody gets burned withdrawing without checking the fee fist!
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 07, 2015, 11:38:40 am
I already contacted them, I assume they will change it soon.
Great I contacted them as well so hopefully they will  correct it today.

Still at 0.5 withdrawal fee.  I hope nobody gets burned withdrawing without checking the fee fist!
It would be great if Toast could contact them as well.  :)
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 08, 2015, 10:55:07 am
Update from bter:
   
Code: [Select]
Bter Support (bter)
Feb 8, 10:27

Dear Sir,
It will be reported to our dev to adjust it.

Best Regards
Bter.con
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on February 08, 2015, 01:45:49 pm
+5
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: vegolino on February 08, 2015, 07:35:50 pm
Good news bter has changed withdrawal to 0.0005 BITGLD which is very reasonable.
Thank you bter  :) Let's start trading BITGLD  +5%
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: ubits on February 10, 2015, 04:08:26 pm
Good news bter has changed withdrawal to 0.0005 BITGLD which is very reasonable.
Thank you bter  :) Let's start trading BITGLD  +5%

Good news!

https://bter.com/trade/bitgld_btc
Title: Re: BitGold Added To Bter- Buy Now
Post by: mike623317 on February 10, 2015, 07:31:52 pm
Good news bter has changed withdrawal to 0.0005 BITGLD which is very reasonable.
Thank you bter  :) Let's start trading BITGLD  +5%

Good news!

https://bter.com/trade/bitgld_btc

Indeed. Thanks BTER  +5%