BitShares Forum

Other => Graveyard => OpenLedger => Topic started by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 11:53:58 am

Title: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 11:53:58 am

It's always exciting when your coin gets listed on an exchange.
Imagine what its like when an exchange gets listed on your coin!

Today at a Bitcoin conference in Denmark, at this very moment, Ronny Boesing is announcing just that.

Cryptonomex, Bit-X, and CCEDK are announcing a new partnership that will change everything in the crypto industry.
Here's Ronny's Press Release and our Big BitShares Bulletin of the Week:

Danish Firm Set to Revolutionize the Cryptocurrency Industry (https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/16/danish-firm-set-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry/)



Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Erlich Bachman on June 16, 2015, 11:57:12 am
"By placing their ledgers on the open BitShares network, CCEDK has positioned itself for rapid growth.  Exchanges with closed order books are going the way of the dinosaur."
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: mike623317 on June 16, 2015, 12:02:25 pm
 This is good news.

Good job guys, I bet a lot of work went on behind the scenes to pull this together.

So this ties in with their mastercard as an off ramp right?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: cass on June 16, 2015, 12:03:38 pm
 +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 12:07:03 pm
The BitShares Blockchain now has a whole new purpose.

Not only is it a second generation coin containing a decentralized exchange that produces smart-currency products...
Now it's also a transparent inter-company network letting exchanges give their customers and assets trading access to customers and assets on other exchanges.

Instead of competing with traditional exchanges,
we are multiplying the markets they can enjoy by networking with each other.


Here's the details about why this is revolutionary:

Now that you've had time to absorb all the cool new features in BitShares 2.0, its time to start unveiling some of the implications about what is possible.  In this post, I'll lay out one of them.

The BitShares Smartchain can serve as a backbone
to support live trading between traditional exchanges. 

Now, instead of having separate shallow markets inside their own stovepipe order books, they can use BitShares to enable all their customers to trade all their assets with the customers and assets of other exchanges.  Small exchanges can band together to attract medium exchanges to join them to compete with still bigger exchanges.  Like a rolling stone.

This greatly expands the network effect, liquidity and market depth of all participants.  A bigger pie for everyone.

And with our new referral system, every participating exchange keeps their own profits from signing up their own customers and issuing their own assets.

We have the perfect way for them to safely compete and cooperate on a single, compelling, transparent exchange network.

The BitShares Exchange Network.

So, exchanges can do more than just serve as gateways and bridges.
They can publish their own order books transparently on our Smartchain.
So everyone can KNOW that they are honest and solvent.

And every customer holds the keys to their own assets, fully decentralized where they won't be such juicy targets for hackers.
With easy to use multi-sig accounts to make those decentralized accounts even more secure.

BitShares 2.0 has the industrial strength to handle the workload of all member crypto exchanges combined.
It is the perfect application to serve as an inter exchange networking back bone.
(Almost like we planned it that way.)


Yeah, but it will never happen, right?

Not so fast! Check out this week's Big BitShares Announcement!

CCEDK.com will put its exchange on a transparent Smartchain offering to trade with other exchanges there.
(And provide them fiat ramps and crypto-aware debit card support in the mix.)


Read their news release here. (https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/16/danish-firm-set-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry/)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 12:11:25 pm
(http://i.gyazo.com/8b6a3af0212f156775d5c83afed062bd.png)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: mike623317 on June 16, 2015, 12:13:40 pm
 .. you're hurting my head Stan.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 12:15:01 pm
(http://i.gyazo.com/c9b406444262ac87e120127fe2001690.png)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Chuckone on June 16, 2015, 12:16:49 pm
Order book sharing between exchanges? I could put up a buy order on exchange A and get it filled by someone selling on exchange B?  :o
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 12:18:56 pm
Exchanges that use BitShares as their back end are now interoperable.

They keep their own customers (see our referral program) but now customers of all participating exchanges can interact via BitShares.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: fav on June 16, 2015, 12:19:41 pm
I... need some time to understand this. that's pure innovation  +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Riverhead on June 16, 2015, 12:22:47 pm

Calling BitShares a coin is like calling an airplane "bicycle 2.0".

We are moving far far beyond a "Coin".

I did NOT see this coming.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: monsterer on June 16, 2015, 12:23:32 pm
Order book sharing between exchanges? I could put up a buy order on exchange A and get it filled by someone selling on exchange B?  :o

It's more complicated than that:

* You deposit USD on CCEDK
* You trade it for CCEDK.USD on CCEDK
* You withdraw CCEDK.USD to your bitshares wallet

At this point you can trade CCEDK.USD for any other token on the bitshares DEX. So in order for you to trade against another exchange's tokens, you'd need to have a market between (or a route to) CCEDK.USD and the other token.

</educated guess>
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: bytemaster on June 16, 2015, 12:35:52 pm
CCEDK will be a full BitShares hosted wallet (white label of our new Graphene GUI)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Troglodactyl on June 16, 2015, 12:36:34 pm
Order book sharing between exchanges? I could put up a buy order on exchange A and get it filled by someone selling on exchange B?  :o

It's more complicated than that:

* You deposit USD on CCEDK
* You trade it for CCEDK.USD on CCEDK
* You withdraw CCEDK.USD to your bitshares wallet

At this point you can trade CCEDK.USD for any other token on the bitshares DEX. So in order for you to trade against another exchange's tokens, you'd need to have a market between (or a route to) CCEDK.USD and the other token.

</educated guess>

I would assume they're replacing the core of their exchange engine with BitShares, and turning their website into a combined web wallet and gateway.  So the website should look the same, but all of their trades should actually be on our blockchain and take advantage of that increased depth, without having to withdraw to your personally controlled BitShares wallet.  I'm curious if trading through their website instead of trading their assets through your own wallet will still mean trusting them with all the keys.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: monsterer on June 16, 2015, 12:37:47 pm
CCEDK will be a full BitShares hosted wallet (white label of our new Graphene GUI)

More detail please :)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: profitofthegods on June 16, 2015, 12:40:43 pm
Wow, very cool.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Riverhead on June 16, 2015, 12:41:05 pm
I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: bytemaster on June 16, 2015, 12:44:45 pm
I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.

Exactly. 

Fiat Deposit / Withdraw built into the "wallet" just like I hinted at earlier. 
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: monsterer on June 16, 2015, 12:47:03 pm
I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.

That's basically equivalent to them throwing away their existing architecture for the 'exchange' part of CCDEK and 'just' becoming a gateway - they must have had some worthy incentive to relinquish that level of control...

edit: so are we talking about having CCDEK.USD, or will they just use plain bitUSD?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: julian1 on June 16, 2015, 12:48:15 pm
 +5% Nice work!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: bytemaster on June 16, 2015, 12:55:56 pm
I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.

That's basically equivalent to them throwing away their existing architecture for the 'exchange' part of CCDEK and 'just' becoming a gateway - they must have had some worthy incentive to relinquish that level of control...

edit: so are we talking about having CCDEK.USD, or will they just use plain bitUSD?

CCEDK.USD or BitUSD is still being worked out, but I would prefer they perform the bridge function and so users of the exchange never have any liability.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: carpet ride on June 16, 2015, 01:00:37 pm
This is beautiful.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: xeroc on June 16, 2015, 01:05:01 pm
I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.

That's basically equivalent to them throwing away their existing architecture for the 'exchange' part of CCDEK and 'just' becoming a gateway - they must have had some worthy incentive to relinquish that level of control...

edit: so are we talking about having CCDEK.USD, or will they just use plain bitUSD?
I wanted to see this happen at wallet.bitshares.org a few months ago .. havin an exchange do this is way nicer!!

+5%!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ben Mason on June 16, 2015, 01:06:26 pm
This is really wonderful news!  Go Ronny!  Go Cryptonomex!  +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: monsterer on June 16, 2015, 01:10:16 pm
CCEDK.USD or BitUSD is still being worked out, but I would prefer they perform the bridge function and so users of the exchange never have any liability.

If you can ensure that bitUSD is a suitable direct substitute for actual USD, you will have found the missing link which plagues ripple.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Tuck Fheman on June 16, 2015, 01:11:49 pm
 +5% +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: spartako on June 16, 2015, 01:14:02 pm
 +5% Great News!!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: svk on June 16, 2015, 01:25:19 pm
I think this post merits a visit from this guy:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ce/9c/94/ce9c949d6c73dbfb889f6036bac022dd.gif)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: carpet ride on June 16, 2015, 01:25:24 pm
Yeaaa Ronny!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Tuck Fheman on June 16, 2015, 01:36:49 pm
I counter with ...

(http://i.imgur.com/qqgHnqT.gif)
Click to enlarge
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: karnal on June 16, 2015, 01:43:48 pm
Order book sharing between exchanges? I could put up a buy order on exchange A and get it filled by someone selling on exchange B?  :o

My mind has been blown. And it has been blown a lot in my short career on this planet.

Well done guys!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: yellowecho on June 16, 2015, 01:57:37 pm
Quote
We start with our own EU-based international exchange in Denmark, which went live more than a year ago. CCEDK.com offers buy and sell options for digital currencies in a secure environment on the base of two-factor authentication (2FA) with 24/7 worldwide customer support. We span five continents and 17 languages so far. We offer anonymous trading of some 85+ crypto pairs based on BitUSD, BitEUR, BitCNY, Bitcoin, Litecoin, BitShares, NuBits, NuShares, Dogecoin, DASH , Nextcoin, Blackcoin, Peercoin and Fimkrypto as well as a 50+ Fiat pairs with validation.

Does this mean they're launching bitDOGE, bitDASH, bitLTC, bitPPC, etc. when they roll out their Graphene-powered exchange?  :o
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Empirical1.2 on June 16, 2015, 02:07:24 pm
 +5% Great News

I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.

It's a concept I see in poker sites, they form networks to pool player liquidity. http://www.pokerscout.com/ , http://www.ipoker.com/html/page/cardrooms

However they still get dwarfed by the likes of PokerStars who are able to market and improve a a single large brand rather than a lot of smaller ones. 

Of course, in the case of BitShares, besides pooling liquidity, customers are also getting a lot of the advantages of being on a decentralised exchange.

http://www.coindesk.com/45-percent-of-bitcoin-exchanges-fail-study-finds/

Quote
Online bitcoin exchanges have a failure rate of 45 percent, with customer balances often wiped out, a new study has found...
The median lifetime of exchanges is just 381 days, Moore and Christin found.

So combined it could certainly be an exchange game changer.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: sumantso on June 16, 2015, 02:22:07 pm
I'm thinking the BitShares part will be transparent to the user. They'll log into an exchange like normal and may see some branding like, "Orderbook Powered by BitShares" or some such. BitShares will replace their MySQL or whatever they were using as a ledger.

Any exchange not using BitShares interoperability services will be at an extreme liquidity disadvantage.

That's basically equivalent to them throwing away their existing architecture for the 'exchange' part of CCDEK and 'just' becoming a gateway - they must have had some worthy incentive to relinquish that level of control...

edit: so are we talking about having CCDEK.USD, or will they just use plain bitUSD?

CCEDK.USD or BitUSD is still being worked out, but I would prefer they perform the bridge function and so users of the exchange never have any liability.

Would've been awesome if it was bitUSD, that would be immense for liquidity and peg. But I guess they realize that the lopsided nature of BitAssets 2.0 means they have to charge a deposit rate; in contrast to other where they even give a bonus on deposit.

BM, are you determined to make BitAssets shewed, or do you plan a review sometime?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: mint chocolate chip on June 16, 2015, 02:24:33 pm
This is outstanding. CCEDK and our team get mad props.

This will invariably increase the number of transactions we handle, recurring revenue stream!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: jaran on June 16, 2015, 02:57:34 pm
Are there any plans for CCEDK to issue shares as a UIA and return a percentage of its profits via dividends or burning to shareholders?

For example on nxt coinimal has shares and pays out dividends.  The downside there is you have to trust coinimal to report it's profits correctly since its centralized...

Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: sschechter on June 16, 2015, 03:16:42 pm
I think its time to sign up for a Nano card. 
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: CLains on June 16, 2015, 03:21:46 pm
http://www.coindesk.com/45-percent-of-bitcoin-exchanges-fail-study-finds/

Quote
Online bitcoin exchanges have a failure rate of 45 percent, with customer balances often wiped out, a new study has found...
The median lifetime of exchanges is just 381 days, Moore and Christin found.

That's.. just.. crazy :o
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 03:32:14 pm
Here's another one of Ronny's slides from his presentation at the Bitcoin conference in Denmark today...

(http://i.gyazo.com/2b7394d09a0c45b0b602582fa8438790.png)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Permie on June 16, 2015, 03:35:52 pm
Great news!

Does this mean every CCEDK trade will be on-chain, paying a transaction fee?

How does this compare to the fees of other exchanges and how much of a premium do you think the market will pay for counterparty risk-free trades?
Assuming CCEDK refers most of it's users it will get all their tx fees back as referral income - will they 'waive' some of the tx fee in order to advertise lower trading fees via CCEDK?
Where is the income from users that were not referred by CCEDK?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: clayop on June 16, 2015, 03:36:15 pm

It's always exciting when your coin gets listed on an exchange.
Imagine what its like when an exchange gets listed on your coin!

+5% +5% +5%
Looking forward to that Bitfinex will be integrated into Bitshares 2.0!  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: CLains on June 16, 2015, 04:06:56 pm
Ordered a Nanocard :)

https://www.ccedk.com/nanocard
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: cgafeng on June 16, 2015, 04:17:15 pm
good news, we need more partner.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Akado on June 16, 2015, 04:20:12 pm
Does this mean all volume passing through exchanges will pass through BitShares?

http://www.coindesk.com/45-percent-of-bitcoin-exchanges-fail-study-finds/

Quote
Online bitcoin exchanges have a failure rate of 45 percent, with customer balances often wiped out, a new study has found...
The median lifetime of exchanges is just 381 days, Moore and Christin found.

That's.. just.. crazy :o

That's awesome for marketing. Now exchanges can provide good and safe services for their costumers, this is awesome. The ground platform for business


This should be worth a mentioning on CoinDesk or other crypto magazines, it may definitely be the future of exchanges!!  +5%

What about the other exchanges BM mentioned that would support BitShares but it wasn't CCEDK? Is that still up? Will it do the same thing'?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 05:20:20 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ander on June 16, 2015, 05:33:30 pm
Today at a Bitcoin conference in Denmark, at this very moment, Ronny Boesing is announcing just that.
Crytonomex, Bit-X, and CCEDK are announcing a new partnership that will change everything in the crypto industry.

Cryptonomex. ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ander on June 16, 2015, 05:37:26 pm
This is amazing.  Its something the bitcoin world desperately wants - decentralized exchange.

Keep em coming, you guys are awesome. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 05:39:06 pm
From our [ANN] thread on bitcointalk:


Oh, and if it wasn't obvious, this is great news for all you other coins.

Our multi-currency Nanocard also lets you spend your coins just like a debit card.

So now there's really no need to go around trying to get merchants to accept your coin.

Just get these guys to accept it!

This levels the playing field with Bitcoin's network effect just a little bit.

(http://i.gyazo.com/3a910e488f8bb605d2a9030188f63839.png)

There.  Another peace offering for you.  :)

Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: tonyk on June 16, 2015, 05:40:52 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost

With risk to sound greedy. Are you saying this is NOT the only announcement today?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 05:46:49 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost

With risk to sound greedy. Are you saying this is NOT the only announcement today?

Poetic license.  "Hibernate" doesn't rhyme with deep and keep.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Akado on June 16, 2015, 05:52:35 pm
Does this mean all volume passing through exchanges will pass through BitShares?

What about the other exchanges BM mentioned that would support BitShares but it wasn't CCEDK? Is that still up? Will it do the same thing'?

questions
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 05:59:35 pm
Does this mean all volume passing through exchanges will pass through BitShares?

What about the other exchanges BM mentioned that would support BitShares but it wasn't CCEDK? Is that still up? Will it do the same thing'?

questions

Question 1 - yes, for all assets a particular exchange cares to list globally.  That could be all of them or some could operate in a hybrid mode, I suppose.  There will be regulatory constraints that limit how far they can go.

Question 2 - See Robert Frost misquote above.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: tonyk on June 16, 2015, 06:06:59 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost

The woods are lovely, dark and never meek
But we have promised more to leak
Announcements to make within a week...
        -- With apologies to Stan and ... Robert Frost
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 06:22:17 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost

The woods are lovely, dark and never meek
But we have promised more to leak
Announcements to make within a week...
        -- With apologies to Stan and ... Robert Frost

LOL - Not bad!   :D
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: NewMine on June 16, 2015, 06:35:55 pm
Congratulations!

Although, not sure if the Bitshares blockchain can handle $15K in peercoin transaction.  ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ander on June 16, 2015, 06:41:36 pm
Question:  Since CCEDK is using the Bitshares blockchain for these trades, does htis mean that when these trades occur, this will generate a fee for bitshares, correct?

Assuming that CCEDK becomes a premium member and refers its clients, it would get 80% of their fees, and Bitshares would get the other 20%?  Still, this 20% of the trading fee will add up a lot over time if many people use the CCEDK platform to trade!

Now imagine if with this competitive advantage of not being able to be goxxed, CCEDK overtakes other centralized exchanges like Bitfinex, stamp, huobi, etc.   Bitshares could be earning 20% of the fees on all this trade of bitcoin/altcoins? 

Would this not counteract dilution, fund development, and result in a profitable DAC? 
Am I seeing this potential correctly?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: arhag on June 16, 2015, 06:47:56 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost

The woods are lovely, dark and never meek
But we have promised more to leak
Announcements to make within a week...
        -- With apologies to Stan and ... Robert Frost

The woods are lovely and not bright
But we have code we need to write
More announcements in a fortnight

        -- With apologies to ... well you get the idea
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ander on June 16, 2015, 06:53:00 pm
This is how Bitshares will win.  Appealing to businesses.


Rather than trying to get average people to understand cryptography, Finance, Bitassets, etc, Bitshares will simply offer businesses a way to save money and make more money, and these businesses will then bring in the end users, who will not have to understand the technical details of how Bitshares works.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 06:58:37 pm
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But we have promises to keep
And announcements to go before we sleep...

        -- With apologies to Robert Frost

The woods are lovely, dark and never meek
But we have promised more to leak
Announcements to make within a week...
        -- With apologies to Stan and ... Robert Frost

The woods are lovely and not bright
But we have code we need to write
More announcements in a fortnight

        -- With apologies to ... well you get the idea

Dang... we've got talent!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: MrJeans on June 16, 2015, 06:58:57 pm
Awesome stuff. We are integrating with the tangible world.

A few questions I had from reading the press release.

"Yield. You can earn better yields with less risk than any place else in the world."

Where is this yield coming from. I thought yield would be removed in 2.0.

"Acceptance. You can spend your money instantly, anywhere major debit cards are accepted. We handle the conversions for you."

Did you say anywhere? would that not incure fees higher than that of a using a normal credit card.

Would you be able to credit these cards in the same way you can credit a normal credit card?

Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 07:04:04 pm
This is how Bitshares will win.  Appealing to businesses.


Rather than trying to get average people to understand cryptography, Finance, Bitassets, etc, Bitshares will simply offer businesses a way to save money and make more money, and these businesses will then bring in the end users, who will not have to understand the technical details of how Bitshares works.

Yeeeesssss!

(http://www.ritoch.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pinky-and-the-brain.jpg)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 07:06:29 pm
Question:  Since CCEDK is using the Bitshares blockchain for these trades, does htis mean that when these trades occur, this will generate a fee for bitshares, correct?

Assuming that CCEDK becomes a premium member and refers its clients, it would get 80% of their fees, and Bitshares would get the other 20%?  Still, this 20% of the trading fee will add up a lot over time if many people use the CCEDK platform to trade!

Now imagine if with this competitive advantage of not being able to be goxxed, CCEDK overtakes other centralized exchanges like Bitfinex, stamp, huobi, etc.   Bitshares could be earning 20% of the fees on all this trade of bitcoin/altcoins? 

Would this not counteract dilution, fund development, and result in a profitable DAC? 
Am I seeing this potential correctly?

Shhhh... if this gets out...
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Riverhead on June 16, 2015, 07:14:02 pm
In traditional, centralized, exchanges users and bots only pay a fee for fills. Who pays that on CCEDK?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Shentist on June 16, 2015, 07:24:08 pm
In traditional, centralized, exchanges users and bots only pay a fee for fills. Who pays that on CCEDK?

i see this as a potential "problem", 
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: fav on June 16, 2015, 07:28:47 pm
Awesome stuff. We are integrating with the tangible world.

A few questions I had from reading the press release.

"Yield. You can earn better yields with less risk than any place else in the world."

Where is this yield coming from. I thought yield would be removed in 2.0.


I'd like to see this answered too :)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 07:36:47 pm
Awesome stuff. We are integrating with the tangible world.

A few questions I had from reading the press release.

"Yield. You can earn better yields with less risk than any place else in the world."

Where is this yield coming from. I thought yield would be removed in 2.0.


I'd like to see this answered too :)

I'm referring to the planned bond market which I expect to offer better than passbook savings yields at far lower than passbook savings risks.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: fav on June 16, 2015, 07:44:42 pm
Awesome stuff. We are integrating with the tangible world.

A few questions I had from reading the press release.

"Yield. You can earn better yields with less risk than any place else in the world."

Where is this yield coming from. I thought yield would be removed in 2.0.


I'd like to see this answered too :)

I'm referring to the planned bond market which I expect to offer better than passbook savings yields at far lower than passbook savings risks.

oh okay. I hope there will be an indepth tutorial on how to use bonds :)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: merivercap on June 16, 2015, 07:48:28 pm
Great news!  Thanks Ronny & CCEDK! The first of many exchanges to follow suit I'm sure.... and the debit card.  Wow.  Huge accomplishment!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: karnal on June 16, 2015, 07:49:32 pm
Great news!  Thanks Ronny & CCEDK! The first of many exchanges to follow suit I'm sure.... and the debit card.  Wow.  Huge accomplishment!

+5% if you were women I'd kiss you !
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: jsidhu on June 16, 2015, 07:53:20 pm
Any word if they will use BitUSD? It would be great if they did.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: canucklehead on June 16, 2015, 08:17:06 pm
Damn it! Over 2 years in the crypto scene and I have never been a fanboy, until now! Well done StanDan!
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Stan on June 16, 2015, 08:18:29 pm
Any word if they will use BitUSD? It would be great if they did.

From the blog post:

“We start with our own EU-based international exchange in Denmark, which went live more than a year ago. CCEDK offers buy and sell options for digital currencies in a secure environment on the base of two-factor authentication (2FA) with 24/7 worldwide customer support. We span five continents and 17 languages so far. We offer anonymous trading of some 85+ crypto pairs based on BitUSD, BitEUR, BitCNY, Bitcoin, Litecoin, BitShares, NuBits, NuShares, Dogecoin, DASH , Nextcoin, Blackcoin, Peercoin and Fimkrypto as well as a 50+ Fiat pairs with validation.”
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: arhag on June 16, 2015, 08:26:57 pm
The woods are lovely and not bright
But we have code we need to write
More announcements in a fortnight

        -- With apologies to ... well you get the idea

Dang... we've got talent!

All this good news in this thread has apparently gotten me in a poem writing mood (never would have expected that). I just whipped up this BitShares poem (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17001.0.html) that I reluctantly share with the forum.  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Empirical1.2 on June 16, 2015, 08:34:00 pm
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114579/danish-ccedk-exchange-announces-real-time-transparent-order-books-proof-of-solvency
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Akado on June 16, 2015, 08:46:13 pm
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114579/danish-ccedk-exchange-announces-real-time-transparent-order-books-proof-of-solvency

Finally something that can probably get upvoted on the Bitcoin Reddit?

we should also upvote http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3a18oj/wire_digital_currencies_to_your_debit_card_in_the/
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: betax on June 16, 2015, 08:49:36 pm
Awesome news, good work. +5% +5% +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: kenCode on June 16, 2015, 08:54:09 pm
The CT article is awesome too!
Btc.com and Bitcoinist articles should come out tomorrow as well :)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: fav on June 16, 2015, 08:56:13 pm
The CT article is awesome too!
Btc.com and Bitcoinist articles should come out tomorrow as well :)

Huh? Btc.com was returned to the owner -  it's pointing to bitcoin.org
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: roadscape on June 16, 2015, 09:08:05 pm
"By placing their ledgers on the open BitShares network, CCEDK has positioned itself for rapid growth.  Exchanges with closed order books are going the way of the dinosaur."

This is awesome! Smart move... exactly what needed to be done.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: CLains on June 16, 2015, 09:09:28 pm
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114579/danish-ccedk-exchange-announces-real-time-transparent-order-books-proof-of-solvency

Awesome press +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: topcandle on June 16, 2015, 09:12:06 pm
In traditional, centralized, exchanges users and bots only pay a fee for fills. Who pays that on CCEDK?

i see this as a potential "problem",

Any answer for this?  This can be a major blunder if no bots could run due to high fees.  Although fees are only 20%.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ander on June 16, 2015, 09:16:14 pm
Based on bytemaster's comments, the order changing fee would be tiny in comparison to the fee when an order is executed.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: kenCode on June 16, 2015, 09:26:31 pm
PLEASE HELP ME TRANSLATE THE NEWS ARTICLE ON CCEDK:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17002.0.html
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Murderistic on June 16, 2015, 09:30:34 pm
This is how Bitshares will win.  Appealing to businesses.


Rather than trying to get average people to understand cryptography, Finance, Bitassets, etc, Bitshares will simply offer businesses a way to save money and make more money, and these businesses will then bring in the end users, who will not have to understand the technical details of how Bitshares works.

Yeeeesssss!

(http://www.ritoch.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/pinky-and-the-brain.jpg)

This has been the vision for a while in terms of how to really get this "out there".  There has been a ton of work in the background and a lot of people with their heads down working hard.  A LOT of more exciting news to come, I won't spoil it for Stan, but I will say you ain't seen nothing yet.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Murderistic on June 16, 2015, 09:32:05 pm
In traditional, centralized, exchanges users and bots only pay a fee for fills. Who pays that on CCEDK?

i see this as a potential "problem",

Any answer for this?  This can be a major blunder if no bots could run due to high fees.  Although fees are only 20%.

Then register your bot as a member account...?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: speedy on June 16, 2015, 09:43:28 pm
So does this mean I can trade (from my wallet of course) BTS for CCEDK.USD, even if I havent sent them my ID first? Or will their fiat IOUs take advantage of the whitelisting features?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: liondani on June 16, 2015, 10:13:21 pm
Question:  Since CCEDK is using the Bitshares blockchain for these trades, does htis mean that when these trades occur, this will generate a fee for bitshares, correct?

Assuming that CCEDK becomes a premium member and refers its clients, it would get 80% of their fees, and Bitshares would get the other 20%?  Still, this 20% of the trading fee will add up a lot over time if many people use the CCEDK platform to trade!

Now imagine if with this competitive advantage of not being able to be goxxed, CCEDK overtakes other centralized exchanges like Bitfinex, stamp, huobi, etc.   Bitshares could be earning 20% of the fees on all this trade of bitcoin/altcoins? 

Would this not counteract dilution, fund development, and result in a profitable DAC? 
Am I seeing this potential correctly?

Shhhh... if this gets out...

Can somebody here with great hacking skills shutdown bitsharestalk.org for 1-2 days? Please!!!

(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http://topcultured.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Please-Lord-620x357.jpg&sp=12866aead49042872adc7ac9b973d6fd)
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Akado on June 16, 2015, 10:33:34 pm
With this, would we be in direct competition with Ripple now? They're trying to get banks to use the protocol, what if we did the same? Isn't ours better?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: openledger on June 16, 2015, 10:47:22 pm
The CT article is awesome too!
Btc.com and Bitcoinist articles should come out tomorrow as well :)

Hello to you all!

Just returned back home after a long drive and a pretty nice conference earlier today in Copenhagen. I see you have all been busy speaking about the news. I am happy all is ready to kick some bud getting out there telling everybody that there is only one way now and in the future and it will be a thrill to enjoy to next months towards an epic change of crypto currency values on all shelves.

I notice Ken was out a little quick with btc.com an bitcoinist :), as it was mentioned more as a hope than actually a fact. I gave the material to Bitcoinist as well as Bitscan, CT, Cryptocoinsnews and Bitcoinmagazine, so we are still missing Bitcoinist, Cryptocoinsnews and Bitcoinmagazine of those, and hope that anyone with contacts there or bacsically anywhere else i regards to news media, will make sure they get the articles alreay out there as feed for yet another salutation to transparent orderbooks!

Need some sleep, so I hope there are still someone here to help answer all these great and excited questions.

Rgds

Ronny Boesing
CCEDK
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: cass on June 16, 2015, 11:26:40 pm
The CT article is awesome too!
Btc.com and Bitcoinist articles should come out tomorrow as well :)

Hello to you all!

Just returned back home after a long drive and a pretty nice conference earlier today in Copenhagen. I see you have all been busy speaking about the news. I am happy all is ready to kick some bud getting out there telling everybody that there is only one way now and in the future and it will be a thrill to enjoy to next months towards an epic change of crypto currency values on all shelves.

I notice Ken was out a little quick with btc.com an bitcoinist :), as it was mentioned more as a hope than actually a fact. I gave the material to Bitcoinist as well as Bitscan, CT, Cryptocoinsnews and Bitcoinmagazine, so we are still missing Bitcoinist, Cryptocoinsnews and Bitcoinmagazine of those, and hope that anyone with contacts there or bacsically anywhere else i regards to news media, will make sure they get the articles alreay out there as feed for yet another salutation to transparent orderbooks!

Need some sleep, so I hope there are still someone here to help answer all these great and excited questions.

Rgds

Ronny Boesing
CCEDK

thx for clarification Ronny…and…get some sleep :)

Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Tuck Fheman on June 16, 2015, 11:53:56 pm
Any insider trading on this news we need to know about Mr. FucktheLemon?

Russ bought me out, he's running BITN these days. They've locked me out of the office and I can't get access to all of the inside info, so I'm back to doing what I know ... buy hi, sell lo. 

And to top it off, CLains fired me motivated me to resign from doing mumble session transcripts and we don't even work together!   :P

I'm not even sure if TuckFheman.com will be around much longer at this rate.

I should have never gotten involved with BITN, I should have listened to my family, they've ruined my life.   :-\

(http://i.imgur.com/9M4n9SO.gif)

"Insider Trading ... It Ruins Lives."  A public service announcement from the SEC.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: Ander on June 16, 2015, 11:59:23 pm
That was a joke, right Tuck?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 17, 2015, 02:13:48 am
 +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: mike623317 on June 17, 2015, 04:28:43 am

Whilst watching indiana jones and the raiders of the lost ark last night, I couldn't help but notice the ark of the covenant took on a strange BitShares-like appearance  ;)

.. Whilst it may not make us invincible, this news is a great leap forward.  +5% all around.


Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: kenCode on June 17, 2015, 08:05:44 am
we are still missing Bitcoinist, Cryptocoinsnews and Bitcoinmagazine of those, and hope that anyone with contacts there or bacsically anywhere else i regards to news media, will make sure they get the articles alreay out there as feed for yet another salutation to transparent orderbooks!

PLEASE HELP ME TRANSLATE THE NEWS ARTICLE ON CCEDK:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17002.0.html
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: openledger on June 17, 2015, 12:04:41 pm

It's always exciting when your coin gets listed on an exchange.
Imagine what its like when an exchange gets listed on your coin!

Today at a Bitcoin conference in Denmark, at this very moment, Ronny Boesing is announcing just that.

Cryptonomex, Bit-X, and CCEDK are announcing a new partnership that will change everything in the crypto industry.
Here's Ronny's Press Release and our Big BitShares Bulletin of the Week:

Danish Firm Set to Revolutionize the Cryptocurrency Industry (https://bitshares.org/blog/2015/06/16/danish-firm-set-to-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry/)

A little follow up in regards to the conference, maybe every one would like to know. Also check my other thread on this. Not writing here just for you to keep the ideas of CCEDK a little longer. :) ;) :D

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ccedk-bit-x-revolutionize-cryptocurrency-industry-ronny-boesing

Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: werneo on June 23, 2015, 10:09:59 pm
CCEDK will be a full BitShares hosted wallet (white label of our new Graphene GUI)

Just to confirm: will banx.io also be a white-label hosted walled on the bitshares network?
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: bytemaster on June 23, 2015, 10:33:11 pm
CCEDK will be a full BitShares hosted wallet (white label of our new Graphene GUI)

Just to confirm: will banx.io also be a white-label hosted walled on the bitshares network?

Yes
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: mint chocolate chip on June 24, 2015, 04:06:24 am
CCEDK, check up on your ad here, https://a-ads.com/campaigns/4534 seems to be active but hasn't had an impression and/or click in the past month
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: openledger on June 24, 2015, 09:50:05 am
CCEDK, check up on your ad here, https://a-ads.com/campaigns/4534 seems to be active but hasn't had an impression and/or click in the past month

Will tell my people involved with this, thanks
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: kenCode on June 24, 2015, 09:59:58 am
RE: https://a-ads.com/ads/16840/preview
 
The "lazy asses" banner is cute, but most people are not self-deprecating.
I don't know about you guys, but I've pretty much trained my eyes to ignore banner ads, even the textual ads on google results pages.
 
Exchange! Buy! Sell! CCEDK.com accept all types of crypto coins! ccedk.com
... for me, that text is not a call to action.
 
To get someone to visit (yet another) Exchange, you've got to promote something that they don't have yet. Buying and selling coins is one thing if you're a vix speculator, but for the rest of the world, tell them why they need to click the ad, right, f*cking, NOW.
 
==================
Volatility Sucks.
Stable, Market-Pegged crypto coins that pay YOU.
ccedk.com
==================
 
==================
I LOVE Volatility.
Trade now with predictable crypto coins!
ccedk.com
==================

==================
38 Reasons to GO CRYPTO...
1. Yield is good. 2. Reach new Customers 3...
ccedk.com
==================
 
..just thinkin out loud here, but marketing to more demos and making it enticing enough without being too misleading is a fine line to walk. I can help bring'm in, just let me know if you want the assist. Marketing is a tough racket.
Title: Re: [ANN] CCEDK to Publish its Order Books on the BitShares Blockchain
Post by: openledger on June 24, 2015, 11:33:22 am
RE: https://a-ads.com/ads/16840/preview
 
The "lazy asses" banner is cute, but most people are not self-deprecating.
I don't know about you guys, but I've pretty much trained my eyes to ignore banner ads, even the textual ads on google results pages.
 
Exchange! Buy! Sell! CCEDK.com accept all types of crypto coins! ccedk.com
... for me, that text is not a call to action.
 
To get someone to visit (yet another) Exchange, you've got to promote something that they don't have yet. Buying and selling coins is one thing if you're a vix speculator, but for the rest of the world, tell them why they need to click the ad, right, f*cking, NOW.
 
==================
Volatility Sucks.
Stable, Market-Pegged crypto coins that pay YOU.
ccedk.com
==================
 
==================
I LOVE Volatility.
Trade now with predictable crypto coins!
ccedk.com
==================

==================
38 Reasons to GO CRYPTO...
1. Yield is good. 2. Reach new Customers 3...
ccedk.com
==================
 
..just thinkin out loud here, but marketing to more demos and making it enticing enough without being too misleading is a fine line to walk. I can help bring'm in, just let me know if you want the assist. Marketing is a tough racket.

 +5%