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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: NewMine on July 08, 2015, 04:01:19 pm
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What are you guys doing?
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What are you guys doing?
- squeezing of course
- wasting your shareholders money
- buying drugs
- watching porn
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What are you guys doing?
- squeezing of course
- wasting your shareholders money
- buying drugs
- watching porn
what a dream job :D
jokes aside, we need dphoshub or whatever their name is to keep track on delegates (and workers later on)
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jokes aside, we need dphoshub or whatever their name is to keep track on delegates (and workers later on)
Not sure that's the point of newmine's OP ..
I think he just wanted to hammer about the "dilution" again .. (which is about 2.2% p.a. btw ..)
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he's got point, the system has no accountability at the moment. Another reason for bitshares2.0 where there are a bit more checks and balances
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he's got point, the system has no accountability at the moment. Another reason for bitshares2.0 where there are a bit more checks and balances
- most of the 100% delegates are devs and they are working very hard to get BTS2 out there ASAP
- some few of the 100% delegates will certainly be voted out in bts2, namely the marketing delegates which should be funded through referrals ..
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What are you guys doing?
- squeezing of course
- wasting your shareholders money
- buying drugs
- watching porn
worth at least 200%.
:P
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
I am trading. Right?
Don't get all bent because someone is bringing light to the fact that the delegates you control don't contribute anything anymore.
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he's got point, the system has no accountability at the moment. Another reason for bitshares2.0 where there are a bit more checks and balances
- most of the 100% delegates are devs and they are working very hard to get BTS2 out there ASAP
- some few of the 100% delegates will certainly be voted out in bts2, namely the marketing delegates which should be funded through referrals ..
+5% Riverhead has been using marketing.methodx to provide liquidity for metaexchange since January. I never took any BTS for myself other than the registration fee. I would prefer the delegate be voted out so I'm not accused of taking BTS and doing nothing in return.
Also, I pay hosting expenses for marketing.methodx, bytemaster and a few other delegates.
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jokes aside, we need dphoshub or whatever their name is to keep track on delegates (and workers later on)
Not sure that's the point of newmine's OP ..
I think he just wanted to hammer about the "dilution" again .. (which is about 2.2% p.a. btw ..)
Legitimate question.
None of you guys seem to care about who becomes a delegate, who quits but remains voted, what they still contribute etc. etc. etc.
I was more pointing out that there is 36 delegates taxing the chain at 100% and it seem some people are not contributing anything at this point and are lost in the mix as most of you refuse to question anyone or anything.
Yes, yes. We established the fact that I don't contribute. But I am also not a paid delegate. So......
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
Haha.. This ^^
Well.. I represent 3 of the 36.. I can say that not a single day goes by that I am not working for BitShares... because of the market cap though no thanks to windbags like OP.. I still don't have enough to get the updates we need done. Though we got about 40% done so far.. the other 60% needs to be done for phase 1 to go into production. Been saving and hoping for a market cap increase to get that moving.
And for the record.. not a single BTS has been for myself at this stage.. all of it has gone towards the project itself. Though I am not going to maintain that for much longer.. so I am motivated to turn the project around to make it profitable on its own.
If we got our other delegates voted in when we made the bid, I would be reporting a whole different story by now. You still can .. http://vote.bunkermining.com
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
Haha.. This ^^
Well.. I represent 3 of the 36.. I can say that not a single day goes by that I am not working for BitShares... because of the market cap though no thanks to windbags like OP.. I still don't have enough to get the updates we need done. Though we got about 40% done so far.. the other 60% needs to be done for phase 1 to go into production. Been saving and hoping for a market cap increase to get that moving.
And for the record.. not a single BTS has been for myself at this stage.. all of it has gone towards the project itself. Though I am not going to maintain that for much longer.. so I am motivated to turn the project around to make it profitable on its own.
If we got our other delegates voted in when we made the bid, I would be reporting a whole different story by now. You still can .. http://vote.bunkermining.com
You are amazing.
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Before you ask, you should know eighteen 100% delegates are actively developing and working. What a lazy FUD...
edit: at least eighteen
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None of you guys
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newmine, you can't hide dude 8)
(http://i.imgur.com/bvRm4bG.jpg)
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newmine, you can't hide dude 8)
(http://i.imgur.com/bvRm4bG.jpg)
unlike most of his posts this one is legit in my opinion.
I'd be interested to hear from each delegate on a monthly basis too.
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It's a fair question and it's been the cause of a few threads calling for some delegates to account for their pay, some to be voted out, and others to be voted in.
In one of the other threads on this topic I postulated that cold storage and collateral voting was the root cause. Apathy I'm sure plays a part too. It's just hard to get upset when the market cap is so low. A 100% delegate is making about $4.86/hr assuming a 2000 hour year.
Things will be different on the new chain; likely for the better. In the mean time there isn't much incentive to take the delegates to task.
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It's a fair question and it's been the cause of a few threads calling for some delegates to account for their pay, some to be voted out, and others to be voted in.
In one of the other threads on this topic I postulated that cold storage and collateral voting was the root cause. Apathy I'm sure plays a part too. It's just hard to get upset when the market cap is so low. A 100% delegate is making about $4.86/hr assuming a 2000 hour year.
Things will be different on the new chain; likely for the better. In the mean time there isn't much incentive to take the delegates to task.
At least there is one positive coming from 2.0. I won't hold my breath though.
Because of your transparency and honesty I wonder why you don't have 100%? If everyone were like you and MethodX, I would have less to complain about, which is good right?
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
Haha.. This ^^
Well.. I represent 3 of the 36.. I can say that not a single day goes by that I am not working for BitShares... because of the market cap though no thanks to windbags like OP.. I still don't have enough to get the updates we need done. Though we got about 40% done so far.. the other 60% needs to be done for phase 1 to go into production. Been saving and hoping for a market cap increase to get that moving.
And for the record.. not a single BTS has been for myself at this stage.. all of it has gone towards the project itself. Though I am not going to maintain that for much longer.. so I am motivated to turn the project around to make it profitable on its own.
If we got our other delegates voted in when we made the bid, I would be reporting a whole different story by now. You still can .. http://vote.bunkermining.com
Cyber bullying. OMG! You are just the person Bitshares needs.
Glad to see you were trying to dig up dirt on me.. too bad you didn't keep digging to see I got that order revoked in a landmark decision by the supreme court. http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local/2015-03-27/article-4092650/Order-overturned/1
How about sharing some online info about yourself newmine... I am sure there are plenty here that would love to creep on you too. :)
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unlike most of his posts this one is legit in my opinion.
I'd be interested to hear from each delegate on a monthly basis too.
This is like all of his posts, 20% "truth" combined with 80% "newmine tactics". It could be "legit" if he said something like "Hey, I think that 1,2,5,10 or 15 delegates out of 36 are not contributing enought to bitshares, what are you guys doing? I want some updates".
I agree though that “A wise man can learn more from his enemies than a fool from his friends”.
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
Haha.. This ^^
Well.. I represent 3 of the 36.. I can say that not a single day goes by that I am not working for BitShares... because of the market cap though no thanks to windbags like OP.. I still don't have enough to get the updates we need done. Though we got about 40% done so far.. the other 60% needs to be done for phase 1 to go into production. Been saving and hoping for a market cap increase to get that moving.
And for the record.. not a single BTS has been for myself at this stage.. all of it has gone towards the project itself. Though I am not going to maintain that for much longer.. so I am motivated to turn the project around to make it profitable on its own.
If we got our other delegates voted in when we made the bid, I would be reporting a whole different story by now. You still can .. http://vote.bunkermining.com
Cyber bullying. OMG! You are just the person Bitshares needs.
Glad to see you were trying to dig up dirt on me.. too bad you didn't keep digging to see I got that order revoked in a landmark decision by the supreme court. http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local/2015-03-27/article-4092650/Order-overturned/1
How about sharing some online info about yourself newmine... I am sure there are plenty here that would love to creep on you too. :)
Hey dude, I deleted that comment 20 minutes ago. You sat on that post reply page, so imagine you were trying to dig on me. Believe me, I saw that it was overturned and you had to pay $1500.
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http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local/2015-03-27/article-4092650/Order-overturned/1
nice timely purchase sir! how many people can say they picked up a nuclear bunker at a tax sale?
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unlike most of his posts this one is legit in my opinion.
I'd be interested to hear from each delegate on a monthly basis too.
This is like all of his posts, 20% "truth" combined with 80% "newmine tactics". It could be "legit" if he said something like "Hey, I think that 1,2,5,10 or 15 delegates out of 36 are not contributing enought to bitshares, what are you guys doing? I want some updates".
I agree though that “A wise man can learn more from his enemies than a fool from his friends”.
+5%
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
Haha.. This ^^
Well.. I represent 3 of the 36.. I can say that not a single day goes by that I am not working for BitShares... because of the market cap though no thanks to windbags like OP.. I still don't have enough to get the updates we need done. Though we got about 40% done so far.. the other 60% needs to be done for phase 1 to go into production. Been saving and hoping for a market cap increase to get that moving.
And for the record.. not a single BTS has been for myself at this stage.. all of it has gone towards the project itself. Though I am not going to maintain that for much longer.. so I am motivated to turn the project around to make it profitable on its own.
If we got our other delegates voted in when we made the bid, I would be reporting a whole different story by now. You still can .. http://vote.bunkermining.com
Cyber bullying. OMG! You are just the person Bitshares needs.
Glad to see you were trying to dig up dirt on me.. too bad you didn't keep digging to see I got that order revoked in a landmark decision by the supreme court. http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local/2015-03-27/article-4092650/Order-overturned/1
How about sharing some online info about yourself newmine... I am sure there are plenty here that would love to creep on you too. :)
Hey dude, I deleted that comment 20 minutes ago. You sat on that post reply page, so imagine you were trying to dig on me. Believe me, I saw that it was overturned and you had to pay $1500.
Wow.. facts straight.. the other guy had to PAY ME $1500 for costs.. the loser pays the costs. I was the winner.
You took what you 'saw' and reversed it here. Not helping your credibility here.
I just replied to the notice of the post... no magic creeping there.
Lets just leave it at.. 'you are amazing' without the sarcasm. :)
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http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local/2015-03-27/article-4092650/Order-overturned/1
nice timely purchase sir! how many people can say they picked up a nuclear bunker at a tax sale?
An operational one.. not many. They are all pretty much gone now.. unless you want to pickup the new ones that go for about $500 per sq/ft. :)
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The delegates I would like more information for what they are contributing:
-dev0.nikolai
-tradbts.gulu
-media.bitscape
-www.bts-hk
-dev-metaexhange.monsterer. Are you guys making enough money in fees to lower your delegate pay?
-media.bitscape
-fund.bitsharesbreakout
-delegate.rgcrypto
-dev.sidhujag
-dev-trial.misc.nikolai
-delegate.verbaltech
-dev-pc.bitcube
-dacx.baozou
-provisional.bitscape
The other 100% have given recent updates or are core devs. Not saying the above have not contributed, but I don't know what they have done lately.
I plan to remove my votes from these delegates if there is no response.
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What are you guys doing?
Start by telling us what YOU are doing.
Haha.. This ^^
Well.. I represent 3 of the 36.. I can say that not a single day goes by that I am not working for BitShares... because of the market cap though no thanks to windbags like OP.. I still don't have enough to get the updates we need done. Though we got about 40% done so far.. the other 60% needs to be done for phase 1 to go into production. Been saving and hoping for a market cap increase to get that moving.
And for the record.. not a single BTS has been for myself at this stage.. all of it has gone towards the project itself. Though I am not going to maintain that for much longer.. so I am motivated to turn the project around to make it profitable on its own.
If we got our other delegates voted in when we made the bid, I would be reporting a whole different story by now. You still can .. http://vote.bunkermining.com
Cyber bullying. OMG! You are just the person Bitshares needs.
Glad to see you were trying to dig up dirt on me.. too bad you didn't keep digging to see I got that order revoked in a landmark decision by the supreme court. http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local/2015-03-27/article-4092650/Order-overturned/1
How about sharing some online info about yourself newmine... I am sure there are plenty here that would love to creep on you too. :)
Hey dude, I deleted that comment 20 minutes ago. You sat on that post reply page, so imagine you were trying to dig on me. Believe me, I saw that it was overturned and you had to pay $1500.
Wow.. facts straight.. the other guy had to PAY ME $1500 for costs.. the loser pays the costs. I was the winner.
You took what you 'saw' and revered it here. Not helping your credibility here.
I just replied to the notice of the post... no magic creeping there.
Lets just leave it at.. 'you are amazing' without the sarcasm. :)
Yes it does look like you were owed that. I misread that. I am sorry.
Anyway, it's a nice insight into what kind of character traits you are made of. I do understand that people change, but I don't see that as likely judging from the way you speak on this forum.
Here's a link to the case. It's pretty interesting:
http://www.courts.ns.ca/Decisions_Of_Courts/documents/2015nssc94.pdf
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Anyway, it's a nice insight into what kind of character traits you are made of. I do understand that people change, but I don't see that as likely judging from the way you speak on this forum.
(https://hague6185.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/post-8794-1403702267.gif)
Not that you claimed to have higher moral standards, but let's pretend it's implied for teh lulz. :P
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Anyway, it's a nice insight into what kind of character traits you are made of. I do understand that people change, but I don't see that as likely judging from the way you speak on this forum.
(https://hague6185.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/post-8794-1403702267.gif)
Not that you claimed to have higher moral standards, but let's pretend it's implied for teh lulz. :P
That is a funny gif.
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The conclusion is that mines and bunkers don't get along.
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Much newmine, very thread.
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I like this thread. It's true. We have 0 accountability. I don't know what a few 100% delegates are doing. Im still waiting on that bitscape video for quite a while after they took that trip. I never liked that idea much to be honest, however I'm waiting for the video so I can finally say they were right and it was worth it but to be honest it's taking too much time. Rgcrypto I know he was into marketing stuff but I would like to know more, because all I know is some marketers run bitshares facebook page and twitter and if i could get a 100% delegate to do that.. Of course they don't do just that (at least that's what I think) but I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
I see. So if they stopped working (assuming I didn't get it wrong), they probably donate a big part of their salary right? Minebitshares already has 3 100% delegates + funds + double of the price when they were asking for delegates if im not mistaken. And it's still not enough?
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I would like to say that I do here good work every day as marketing guy. With more votes i could have accomplished so much already within the last months. I bring in important people, thats a fact. Could you please realize that my work is valuable and not fud marketing delegates?
I am the most visible dude here and spread the bitshares.org site daily to a hundred people from a l l o v e r t h e w o r l d.
Give me advice what to make better, I am dedicating my full time for us.
Thx :-)
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
I see. So if they stopped working (assuming I didn't get it wrong), they probably donate a big part of their salary right? Minebitshares already has 3 100% delegates + funds + double of the price when they were asking for delegates if im not mistaken. And it's still not enough?
It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
Same goes for Metaexchange. I see hardly anyone uses it so fees are rather null at this point. Then you should ask, how much and how long should a site that isn't being used be allowed to get 100% delegate funds?
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
So far it seems like, if you get voted in and you don't rustle the leaves you get to drain the system for free. I thinks lot of delegates are nearing a 750,000 BTS earned, while he Devs are near 1,000,000.
750,000X $.006= $4500 today's prices
$9000 at the highs this year
$2700 at the low this year
I know all of you expect BTS to increase. So hasn't everybody earned enough to retire on if BTS goes where you think it's going to go? Do these marketers really not have a real everyday job that pays their bills or are you telling me everyone of the delegates quits their full time real world jobs to live off delegate pay?
I think it's time you guys ask yourselves these questions. Never mind about me and how much you despise me. Think about everything every delegate has done and whether they have delivered and need the pay, delivered and dont need the pay or delivered and have been paid in excess according to what they produced?
Are all these guys going to need their delegate pay to hand over to Cryptonomex for compatibility with the Bitshares network and setting up?
Are we still waiting on whatever point oh for a marketing push?
Is some of the delegated content creating multiple streams of revenue?
Is everyone transparent?
Do you as a community even have enough voting power outside of I3 and the Chinese whales? This one may be your biggest problem. The forum participators may not even have the votes to do anything substantial when it comes to voting? Maybe you should experiment and see how much clout you have together. Vote up some delegate and then vote em out?
Is Cryptonomex really the best idea for the project? Anders poll awhile back seemed to convey that a majority of you weren't completely sold on the idea and there was possibly some risk.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17172.msg219388.html#msg219388
I apologize if I offended anyone in the making of this comment.
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What do you think about my 38 percent payrate newmine? And about what I do in general?
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Is everyone transparent?
I think Beyond Bitcoin (https://beyondbitcoin.org) deserves more delegates voted in. They supply more BitShares content to the public, free of charge, and search engines than all others combined by my estimate. The service they are providing with the various Hangouts and transcripts (thousands of words, many hours to complete) is invaluable to not only the BitShares community but all cryptocurrency communities, which in turn will bring more people into BitShares. I don't think their work can be any more transparent, since everyone can listen to or read all of their hard work free of charge daily on a public website.
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
I see. So if they stopped working (assuming I didn't get it wrong), they probably donate a big part of their salary right? Minebitshares already has 3 100% delegates + funds + double of the price when they were asking for delegates if im not mistaken. And it's still not enough?
It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
I apologize if I offended anyone in the making of this comment.
This is wrong.. again.. more misinformation to make your wrong points.. surprise.
I can't speak to all the other delegates.. but I am starting to see why they haven't bothered to say anything.
3 100% delegates includes rgrcryptos.. and we only started receiving bts from the newly elected one a few weeks go after loan repayments. Note that a great deal of the BTS goes towards bonus payouts to the miners daily...and if you knew anything about anything you would know its a zero fee pool. I been losing money on it ever since I took it over... path to profitability for it is a few phases of development away.
@Akado - I already told you it didn't double, it went up by 60%.. even since that post it has gone further down. A 100% delegate earns less than $27 a day "right now" ..we all know the market cap goes up and down but my necessity to pay out bitUSD daily doesn't change.. and most of the time the cost is higher not lower. The current balance of bts we have managed to save in the short period while still paying out bonuses has amounted to about 4X less than every quote on the work to be done I have ever gotten. Also as noted earlier we got 40% of phase one done as well, while 60% remains. So no, its not enough... we are left waiting for months until there is enough to move forward. I kinda have repeated dozens of times now in forums.. but I guess when the trolling starts reality goes out the window.
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
I see. So if they stopped working (assuming I didn't get it wrong), they probably donate a big part of their salary right? Minebitshares already has 3 100% delegates + funds + double of the price when they were asking for delegates if im not mistaken. And it's still not enough?
It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
I apologize if I offended anyone in the making of this comment.
This is wrong.. again.. more misinformation to make your wrong points.. surprise.
I can't speak to all the other delegates.. but I am starting to see why they haven't bothered to say anything.
3 100% delegates includes rgrcryptos.. and we only started receiving bts from the newly elected one a few weeks go after loan repayments. Note that a great deal of the BTS goes towards bonus payouts to the miners daily...and if you knew anything about anything you would know its a zero fee pool. I been losing money on it ever since I took it over... path to profitability for it is a few phases of development away.
@Akado - I already told you it didn't double, it went up by 60%.. even since that post it has gone further down. A 100% delegate earns less than $27 a day "right now" ..we all know the market cap goes up and down but my necessity to pay out bitUSD daily doesn't change.. and most of the time the cost is higher not lower. The current balance of bts we have managed to save in the short period while still paying out bonuses has amounted to about 4X less than every quote on the work to be done I have ever gotten. Also as noted earlier we got 40% of phase one done as well, while 60% remains. So no, its not enough... we are left waiting for months until there is enough to move forward. I kinda have repeated dozens of times now in forums.. but I guess when the trolling starts reality goes out the window.
Could you share what's the 60% about? I know I ask a lot of questions but I really feel like I need to, I don't like to feel uninformed
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
I see. So if they stopped working (assuming I didn't get it wrong), they probably donate a big part of their salary right? Minebitshares already has 3 100% delegates + funds + double of the price when they were asking for delegates if im not mistaken. And it's still not enough?
It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
I apologize if I offended anyone in the making of this comment.
This is wrong.. again.. more misinformation to make your wrong points.. surprise.
I can't speak to all the other delegates.. but I am starting to see why they haven't bothered to say anything.
3 100% delegates includes rgrcryptos.. and we only started receiving bts from the newly elected one a few weeks go after loan repayments. Note that a great deal of the BTS goes towards bonus payouts to the miners daily...and if you knew anything about anything you would know its a zero fee pool. I been losing money on it ever since I took it over... path to profitability for it is a few phases of development away.
@Akado - I already told you it didn't double, it went up by 60%.. even since that post it has gone further down. A 100% delegate earns less than $27 a day "right now" ..we all know the market cap goes up and down but my necessity to pay out bitUSD daily doesn't change.. and most of the time the cost is higher not lower. The current balance of bts we have managed to save in the short period while still paying out bonuses has amounted to about 4X less than every quote on the work to be done I have ever gotten. Also as noted earlier we got 40% of phase one done as well, while 60% remains. So no, its not enough... we are left waiting for months until there is enough to move forward. I kinda have repeated dozens of times now in forums.. but I guess when the trolling starts reality goes out the window.
Ok. So you have 2 delegates plus Rgcrypto's.
So you are making $81 a day right now with the three. It was a nice try to gloss over the total amount of earnings you make by throwing out the numbers for a single delegate. $81 X 7days = $567 per week.
Do you have a break down of how many blocks are being mined per coin and the exchange rate and how you are determining the extra bonus? You are raking in ~13K in BTS per day. Do you have logs of handing that out on top of what is being mined? Somehow I doubt it.
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
I see. So if they stopped working (assuming I didn't get it wrong), they probably donate a big part of their salary right? Minebitshares already has 3 100% delegates + funds + double of the price when they were asking for delegates if im not mistaken. And it's still not enough?
It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
I apologize if I offended anyone in the making of this comment.
This is wrong.. again.. more misinformation to make your wrong points.. surprise.
I can't speak to all the other delegates.. but I am starting to see why they haven't bothered to say anything.
3 100% delegates includes rgrcryptos.. and we only started receiving bts from the newly elected one a few weeks go after loan repayments. Note that a great deal of the BTS goes towards bonus payouts to the miners daily...and if you knew anything about anything you would know its a zero fee pool. I been losing money on it ever since I took it over... path to profitability for it is a few phases of development away.
@Akado - I already told you it didn't double, it went up by 60%.. even since that post it has gone further down. A 100% delegate earns less than $27 a day "right now" ..we all know the market cap goes up and down but my necessity to pay out bitUSD daily doesn't change.. and most of the time the cost is higher not lower. The current balance of bts we have managed to save in the short period while still paying out bonuses has amounted to about 4X less than every quote on the work to be done I have ever gotten. Also as noted earlier we got 40% of phase one done as well, while 60% remains. So no, its not enough... we are left waiting for months until there is enough to move forward. I kinda have repeated dozens of times now in forums.. but I guess when the trolling starts reality goes out the window.
Could you share what's the 60% about? I know I ask a lot of questions but I really feel like I need to, I don't like to feel uninformed
The simple points are:
- Conversion of the new platform to operate with bitshares
- Automation of payouts
- More detailed reporting
- Newly designed website
- Support for multi-pool mining
- Preproduction testing and verification of new merge mining, sha256, and quark support.
Thats just phase one.. I spent considerable time researching up to phase four. Only recently was I going to provide an updated roadmap up to phase three now that they got finalized, but recently I was seeking out yet another quote in the hopes of finding some magical pot of programmer gold. I expect to get that in the next few days and then will be settled on what we are looking at.. then I can post that update. I can tell you now though.. it likely won't be much different from what have been saying for the past month and a bit.. we don't have enough to get it all done.. so we wait... or get the other delegates voted in and have a budget to work with to get it done sooner.. move to profits faster.. and end them all as I have stated since the beginning.
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It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
Same goes for Metaexchange. I see hardly anyone uses it so fees are rather null at this point. Then you should ask, how much and how long should a site that isn't being used be allowed to get 100% delegate funds?
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
So far it seems like, if you get voted in and you don't rustle the leaves you get to drain the system for free. I thinks lot of delegates are nearing a 750,000 BTS earned, while he Devs are near 1,000,000.
750,000X $.006= $4500 today's prices
$9000 at the highs this year
$2700 at the low this year
I know all of you expect BTS to increase. So hasn't everybody earned enough to retire on if BTS goes where you think it's going to go? Do these marketers really not have a real everyday job that pays their bills or are you telling me everyone of the delegates quits their full time real world jobs to live off delegate pay?
I think it's time you guys ask yourselves these questions. Never mind about me and how much you despise me. Think about everything every delegate has done and whether they have delivered and need the pay, delivered and dont need the pay or delivered and have been paid in excess according to what they produced?
Are all these guys going to need their delegate pay to hand over to Cryptonomex for compatibility with the Bitshares network and setting up?
Are we still waiting on whatever point oh for a marketing push?
Is some of the delegated content creating multiple streams of revenue?
Is everyone transparent?
If this only was the OP .. then people would listen to you more closely.
That said, I totally agree and I am getting tiered of asking paid delegates to publish reports on a regular basis .. there definitely is a lack of transparency ..
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
This minebitshares is marketing as far as we were concerned so much of those delegates like rgcrypto go to minebitshares. Beyond Bitcoins team collectively contribute 11.5% to minebitshares for that reason.
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i started working on this transcript and i think it can answer a lot of questions concerning minebitshares and delegates. i'll try to finish it up within next 48 hours, or just listen to the hangout.
https://beyondbitcoin.org/delegate-hangout-with-datasecuritynode-about-minebitshares/ (https://beyondbitcoin.org/delegate-hangout-with-datasecuritynode-about-minebitshares/)
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Tuck and Newman both have a point. Newman is a huge BTS whale who will never leave our community because he is completely addicted to controlling his destiny just like the rest of us. However, he is nervous to see that suddenly BitShares is growing faster than the community is able to audit it. Haste does make waste, as growth is normally followed by healthy pruning.
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It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
Same goes for Metaexchange. I see hardly anyone uses it so fees are rather null at this point. Then you should ask, how much and how long should a site that isn't being used be allowed to get 100% delegate funds?
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
So far it seems like, if you get voted in and you don't rustle the leaves you get to drain the system for free. I thinks lot of delegates are nearing a 750,000 BTS earned, while he Devs are near 1,000,000.
750,000X $.006= $4500 today's prices
$9000 at the highs this year
$2700 at the low this year
I know all of you expect BTS to increase. So hasn't everybody earned enough to retire on if BTS goes where you think it's going to go? Do these marketers really not have a real everyday job that pays their bills or are you telling me everyone of the delegates quits their full time real world jobs to live off delegate pay?
I think it's time you guys ask yourselves these questions. Never mind about me and how much you despise me. Think about everything every delegate has done and whether they have delivered and need the pay, delivered and dont need the pay or delivered and have been paid in excess according to what they produced?
Are all these guys going to need their delegate pay to hand over to Cryptonomex for compatibility with the Bitshares network and setting up?
Are we still waiting on whatever point oh for a marketing push?
Is some of the delegated content creating multiple streams of revenue?
Is everyone transparent?
If this only was the OP .. then people would listen to you more closely.
That said, I totally agree and I am getting tiered of asking paid delegates to publish reports on a regular basis .. there definitely is a lack of transparency ..
+5%
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It's not enough ever.
I was totally in support of minebitshares, but 3 delegates plus rgcrypto is absurd. Plus what do they make in fees? As long as they have delegates, their fee intake should be public info.
Same goes for Metaexchange. I see hardly anyone uses it so fees are rather null at this point. Then you should ask, how much and how long should a site that isn't being used be allowed to get 100% delegate funds?
What exactly are the Chinese marketing delegates contributing at this point? Let's get beyond the fact that they did something awhile ago, like make a website or two. What are they doing now to be allowed to keep earning?
So far it seems like, if you get voted in and you don't rustle the leaves you get to drain the system for free. I thinks lot of delegates are nearing a 750,000 BTS earned, while he Devs are near 1,000,000.
750,000X $.006= $4500 today's prices
$9000 at the highs this year
$2700 at the low this year
I know all of you expect BTS to increase. So hasn't everybody earned enough to retire on if BTS goes where you think it's going to go? Do these marketers really not have a real everyday job that pays their bills or are you telling me everyone of the delegates quits their full time real world jobs to live off delegate pay?
I think it's time you guys ask yourselves these questions. Never mind about me and how much you despise me. Think about everything every delegate has done and whether they have delivered and need the pay, delivered and dont need the pay or delivered and have been paid in excess according to what they produced?
Are all these guys going to need their delegate pay to hand over to Cryptonomex for compatibility with the Bitshares network and setting up?
Are we still waiting on whatever point oh for a marketing push?
Is some of the delegated content creating multiple streams of revenue?
Is everyone transparent?
If this only was the OP .. then people would listen to you more closely.
That said, I totally agree and I am getting tiered of asking paid delegates to publish reports on a regular basis .. there definitely is a lack of transparency ..
+5%
finally +5% People shouldnt even have to ask for reports. We need the hub prometheus is working on só bad
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Under DPOS 2.0 most of these issues go away. The newly created stake will be vesting, fees will be higher, no marketing delegates will be voted in, and only a few workers will be hired. It will also make it easier to delegate your voting to a 3rd party which should allow a more responsive system.
1M BTS for the devs means they have been paid for less than 1 month of work in the past 7-8 months from delegate pay.
If there is a 100% delegate that is getting paid for nothing then let me know and I will remove my votes from them.
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Under DPOS 2.0 most of these issues go away. The newly created stake will be vesting, fees will be higher, no marketing delegates will be voted in, and only a few workers will be hired. It will also make it easier to delegate your voting to a 3rd party which should allow a more responsive system.
1M BTS for the devs means they have been paid for less than 1 month of work in the past 7-8 months from delegate pay.
If there is a 100% delegate that is getting paid for nothing then let me know and I will remove my votes from them.
I can think of only one right now that needs votes removed. delegate1.john-galt
I tried for weeks to rally people to vote him out but failed.
As for the rest.. +5%
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This thread was my inspiration ...
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17584.msg223892.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17584.msg223892.html)
:P
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https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18151.new.html#new
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What are you guys doing?
- squeezing of course
- wasting your shareholders money
- buying drugs
- watching porn
So basically, nothings changed from the last update. I still support your efforts! ;)
EDIT : LOL! No basically Tuck, you're replying to the same comment from months ago. It's morning for me, I'll catch up.
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But I honestly know nothing about what the marketing delegates are doing, I have no info. Could someone update me?
They all stopped marketing and have been donating their funds to stuff like minebitshares.
All the information is in our thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15781.0.html). Please post there any question or suggestion.