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Specific Projects => Muse/SoundDAC => Topic started by: ghost_of_the_internet on July 18, 2015, 04:26:17 am

Title: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: ghost_of_the_internet on July 18, 2015, 04:26:17 am
The artist Imogen Heap is working on a blockchain based music service. Its called Mycelia...

You may know her from this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYIAfiVGluk

Ms. Heap acknowledges that we’re some time away from “solving” the problem, but Ms. Heap’s vision – a project she refers to as Mycelia – for how this change might come about is the most fully-formed I’ve yet to hear from anyone.
 

Very interesting interview.
Goes on to say
Watch this space, Imogen Heap is primed, and it’s about to get interesting.

The whole interview can be found here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgehoward/2015/07/17/imogen-heaps-mycelia-an-artists-approach-for-a-fair-trade-music-business-inspired-by-blockchain/


It's a two part interview. Part one does not get into how this system will work. Basically says that the music industry is going to implode in about five years in the future when artists get sick of the awful deals they have been dealing with for all of time.

Then goes on to discuss how this blockchain cryptocurrency idea where artists will all be connected will be the most treasured database of all time.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: cob on July 22, 2015, 08:25:04 pm
Read it. Very interesting. I'll await part 2. If you see it when it comes out, send me the link!

thanks
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: ghost_of_the_internet on July 31, 2015, 07:27:32 pm
Part two is out

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgehoward/2015/07/28/imogen-heap-gets-specific-about-mycelia-a-fair-trade-music-business-inspired-by-blockchain/

She says that she is in talks with the guys from ethereum to actually bring this project to life. She acknowledges that people are already working on a music blockchain and says that someone is almost there(PeerTracks?). Anyways she goes in depth to the ideas that she has and how it would work. So much of it is very similar to the ideas already discussed here. This space is definitely heating up.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Ben Mason on July 31, 2015, 09:22:34 pm
Cob, you should contact her and try to bring her on board with peertracks. If she's truly only interested in helping artists then she may well be open to helping as peertracks is likely further ahead than any new project. It would be great for an artist who is passionate about blockchain tech to help peertracks and it's not as if notes are overly expensive if she also wanted to invest.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Marky0001 on July 31, 2015, 11:12:46 pm
damn ethereum is going to be sick...
second project that announces to work with the guys
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: DMo09 on August 01, 2015, 01:17:11 am
Heap seems like the kind of person who would support mulitple solutions to "the problem". PeerTracks should definitely contact her.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: URSAY on August 01, 2015, 11:31:48 pm
Florincoin with Alexandria seems farther along then anyone at this point.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Tuck Fheman on August 01, 2015, 11:59:07 pm
http://www.bisantyum.com (http://www.bisantyum.com) Related : http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2015/06/bitcoin-and-the-music-industry-part-2.html (http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2015/06/bitcoin-and-the-music-industry-part-2.html)

http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/06/11/22hertz-are-the-first-band-to-copyright-music-on-the-blockchain/ (http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/06/11/22hertz-are-the-first-band-to-copyright-music-on-the-blockchain/)

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/10/symbionts-blockchain-application-to-transform-financial-trading (http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/10/symbionts-blockchain-application-to-transform-financial-trading)

http://www.waterstechnology.com/buy-side-technology/opinion/2412605/blockchain-meets-mi5 (http://www.waterstechnology.com/buy-side-technology/opinion/2412605/blockchain-meets-mi5)

Thoughts? 

Erlich or Russ, are either of you into these projects?
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Erlich Bachman on August 02, 2015, 12:36:14 am
"In our next article, we will layout the future of content distribution and rights management. We’ll see how that can benefit content creators and consumers in ways never before possible. Stay tuned."

"stay tuned" until Eddie and Cob make public their revenue model.  Next thing you know, they will be advertising 116,000 TPS.  But it's about freakin time that the record industry started competing for content creators and consumers.  Nice find.

From their white paper:

"A DDRM (distributed digital right management) solution incentivizes legal content usage over illegal content usage by rewarding legitimate exchanges and transactions while discouraging illegitimate transactions.   If the exact same effort is required to interact with content legally versus illegally it is reasonable to assume that people will choose the legal means."


1.
Content provider seeds incentivized data.

2.
Transactions are recorded securely using a blockchain ledger.

3.
Nodes are used for distributing files and reporting distribution.

4.
Consumer helps confirm delivery reporting information.

This system enables the distribution of content that is measured by the demand for the content
and successful fulfillment of delivery requests. This creates an open market for the storage and
distribution of data based on the nature of the content it contains. Content with varying data
requirements can be served by appropriate storage providers who are incentivized
proportionately to demand. All transactions are automatically verified and distributed.

So, yeah Tuck, it looks to me like these guys want to use a blockchain for storing and distributing (music) data (like maidsafe).  Pretty advanced idea, though, I don't see how they are going to pull it all off exclusively (without a centralized website for flow) in either a light or heavy wallet or client software.  Cob realizes that he needs Peertracks as a centralized front end, but if the byzantine team can create a decentralized blockchain for music storage/delivery, then we could fork it and then we would have a blockchain not only for consumer fun coin trading, but for the artist's music as well.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Tuck Fheman on August 02, 2015, 01:09:29 am
I'll also toss this out there ... I would not be surprised to see Ian Knowles from CIYAM (help) create a decentralized music platform. ;)
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Erlich Bachman on August 02, 2015, 02:58:09 am
TLDR
blockchain disintermediating marketing first, delivery second.

When you say "platform" do you mean a platform for storing and delivering music files?  Or a platform to trade viral managerial/fan value as artist coins?

Or both? Because what Cob did was utilize a blockchain, not for the boring "music delivery mechanism", but as a "ball buster"

So, as an artist, I can now fire both my blood sucking manager and label simultaneously creating viral marketing ideas for my next gig featuring:

...drumroll please......


my MOST RABID FANS (the ones who hold the most ME-coins)

An artist can sell Artist coins without even uploading a single song to Peertracks, man.  Me and my fans can manage our own career, thank you very much.  Am I talking to The Man?

With Muse, artists get to "pay" their entourage of mega-fans with back stage passes and front row seats because we will be shooting live video tonite, so get right.

Nobody ever cares if the artist gets paid when they're partying like it's 1999 (you won't be around to spend it anyway, so don't spill the buzz)


(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38109000/jpg/_38109348_beach_afp.jpg)


Muse lets an artist know who all the cool kids are so that they get green room tickets ANONYMOUSLY.  They don't have to inhale if they're clinton.


Byzantine is not our competitor, they are building our back end (music storage).  When that tech is finally developed, we will fork it in place of the Peertracks website to finally fully automate the delivery system and share drop on Team Byzantine and NOTES, but until then, our showcase blockchain is as it always was, a manager/fan club organizer disintermediator, not a music encyclopedia.

Remember the rules man:

1. Party First
2. Pay Later

New tech always goes toward vice first.  Porn invented the movie camera.

Proof of Porn:

(http://arts-wallpapers.com/nude_art/nude_art/04/nude_art800.jpg)

See....They're partying first..... Pretty fn hot considering the porn selection in the stone age, eh?


the most prolific painters of the time were painting whatever could net them the most cash, and what netted them the most?  Pics of parties.

So from the prospective of which blockchain will produce the most user artist sponsored Kush?

I'm going with Eddie.

Maybe later, we'll have to pay for this immense hangover.

The other main difference between our platforms is that you have to trust Ed-n-Cob to pay you for your songs, but at least the blockchain lets an artist know when they are getting the old corn-Cob (in the ass)

You guys have been born and bred to think that anything that feels this good should be illegal, but it's not wrong to have a good time.




And the number 1 reason why I believe that Peertracks will be bigger than Pandora is this:







It's a crypto that is backed by something.











In Peertracks, the Brownie Points are backed by real brownies



TLDR
blockchain disintermediating marketing first, delivery second. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbccrO8qKog#t=32s)


we all ran to a cue of people waiting to get through the door, and slammed into each other because the line was moving slowly... Now we're all just sitting here waiting to get through the door praying for progress.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Tuck Fheman on August 02, 2015, 05:30:01 am
TLDR
blockchain disintermediating marketing first, delivery second. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbccrO8qKog#t=32s)

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/sheeit.gif)
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: jsidhu on August 02, 2015, 06:00:09 am
I'll also toss this out there ... I would not be surprised to see Ian Knowles from CIYAM (help) create a decentralized music platform. ;)
Hmm why him? He's into turing complete algos
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Tuck Fheman on August 02, 2015, 08:17:45 am
I'll also toss this out there ... I would not be surprised to see Ian Knowles from CIYAM (help) create a decentralized music platform. ;)
Hmm why him? He's into turing complete algos

It's just a wild guess, but I'm not exactly pulling it from my arse. ;)
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: jsidhu on August 03, 2015, 08:40:15 am
I'll also toss this out there ... I would not be surprised to see Ian Knowles from CIYAM (help) create a decentralized music platform. ;)
Hmm why him? He's into turing complete algos

It's just a wild guess, but I'm not exactly pulling it from my arse. ;)

Aahh i c you mean this then? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822100.msg9414766#msg9414766
Last year
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Tuck Fheman on August 03, 2015, 09:05:19 am
I'll also toss this out there ... I would not be surprised to see Ian Knowles from CIYAM (help) create a decentralized music platform. ;)
Hmm why him? He's into turing complete algos

It's just a wild guess, but I'm not exactly pulling it from my arse. ;)

Aahh i c you mean this then? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822100.msg9414766#msg9414766
Last year

 ;)
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: santaclause102 on August 11, 2015, 11:44:54 am
related  but different I guess:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgehoward/2015/07/19/union-square-ventures-andy-weissman-on-the-blockchain-and-the-music-rights-nirvana-state/

https://epicenterbitcoin.com/podcast/078/

http://blog.aweissman.com/
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: kenCode on December 10, 2015, 01:38:14 pm
Florincoin with Alexandria seems farther along then anyone at this point.

Alexandria uses florincoin blockchain (i guess) for storing the hash of the magnet uri.
The alexandria.media software itself (http://dloa.net) does look like it's very far along. Nice ui too.
It uses bittorrent to distribute the files.
I would like to compare the two platforms, or all of the competitors to Muse/Peertracks actually in a spreadsheet.
Has this been done yet? Thanx to anyone who has this kind of info..
 
edit: Florincoin (or do they use Filecoin now?) is also mined, POW, not good. BTS (and its memo field) could be used for that instead. IPFS ((https://ipfs.io) https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api) is also used, I have never looked into that tech.
http://alexandria.media/#/254d9bc6179aba78f2c1b15b3ef297ca33bdac93a1bf04148813f5382691bc96
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: Marky0001 on December 10, 2015, 04:59:13 pm
Is peertracks about to end like ltcgear.com?
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: donkeypong on December 10, 2015, 05:14:17 pm
Is peertracks about to end like ltcgear.com?

MUSE and PeerTracks are about to explode the market, my friend.
Title: Re: PeerTracks has competition
Post by: TravelsAsia on December 10, 2015, 06:56:27 pm
Is peertracks about to end like ltcgear.com?

Cob gave an update on December 5th.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20549.0.html