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Title: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Stan on September 04, 2015, 08:39:40 pm
ANNOUNCEMENT 9 - Pitchfork Countdown Could Begin Next Week

Those of you who attended today's Mumble Hangout with Bytemaster heard it there first.  This expectation shaping pre-announcement announcement is for the rest of you.

If all goes well next week and no unforeseen snags occur, 
we think we will be able to announce the start of our 30 day countdown to the BitShares 2.0 Pitchfork.


To make this date, we have prioritized our initial feature set to achieve the following key objectives:
These were judged the minimum requirements needed to jump start the anticipated growth boom.  Every other new feature can be brought online without interruption or forking to upgrade, so we felt that there was no reason to delay getting the above advantages into the hands of our partners and users.

Our team will make the final call next week, but we feel we are very close.  The exact 30-day countdown date will be posted in a follow up announcement at that time.  If you are a Partner or 3rd Party developer waiting to begin integration, this is your one week pre-notice to recall your integration teams from summer break in Kokomo and harness them up to their keyboards.

If all goes well, this means that:
and, most importantly, when Marty and Doc get back to the future this fall, BitShares 2.0 will already be here waiting for them, with weeks to spare!

(https://i.gyazo.com/0b407da37ed5a0bccc38bb39dab40a24.png)

 
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 04, 2015, 08:43:58 pm

If all goes well next week and no unforeseen snags occur, 
we think we will be able to announce the start of our 30 day countdown to the BitShares 2.0 Pitchfork.



This never happens, but I do appreciate that we are getting closer now.  It looks like you will probably get there prior to Sept 21 or whatever is the 'last day of summer'. ;)

Well done everyone involved!  We know youve been working incredibly hard to get this out.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: xeroc on September 04, 2015, 08:52:00 pm
+1
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: inarizushi on September 04, 2015, 09:10:01 pm
Yeah, nice job  :). I'm not entirely optimistic, but I hope so much that BitShares 2.0 will be able to bring financial freedom to the masses !
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bytemaster on September 04, 2015, 09:12:06 pm
I only guarantee that our GUI will be better than Ethereum's at launch ;)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 04, 2015, 09:16:21 pm
I only guarantee that our GUI will be better than Ethereum's at launch ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 04, 2015, 09:19:09 pm
The key word here is "could" ahah I assume then we won't have the wallet ready for 100,00 tps right? I'm not particularly worried about that. Just expect trolls to use that to say BitShares tried to hype, didn't deliver, scam, etc. But if a decent amount of transactions could be proven to be done in the chain, it could ease some minds.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 04, 2015, 09:22:09 pm
I only guarantee that our GUI will be better than Ethereum's at launch ;)

Good target to aim for.. our something will be better than their nothing. :P
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 04, 2015, 09:24:47 pm
The key word here is "could" ahah I assume then we won't have the wallet ready for 100,00 tps right? I'm not particularly worried about that. Just expect trolls to use that to say BitShares tried to hype, didn't deliver, scam, etc. But if a decent amount of transactions could be proven to be done in the chain, it could ease some minds.

It Bitshares was even to do 1000 tps, it would make a profit from fees of over 17 million dollars in a single day (at 20 cents each).  Or 3.5 million if those transactions were all done from lifetime members.   That would sure rock the market cap. ;)  The TPS bitshares will be able to handle will be scaled up over time as we get more use.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 04, 2015, 09:36:00 pm
The key word here is "could" ahah I assume then we won't have the wallet ready for 100,00 tps right? I'm not particularly worried about that. Just expect trolls to use that to say BitShares tried to hype, didn't deliver, scam, etc. But if a decent amount of transactions could be proven to be done in the chain, it could ease some minds.

It Bitshares was even to do 1000 tps, it would make a profit from fees of over 17 million dollars in a single day (at 20 cents each).  Or 3.5 million if those transactions were all done from lifetime members.   That would sure rock the market cap. ;)  The TPS bitshares will be able to handle will be scaled up over time as we get more use.

Yes, I'm not talking about having a high number of transactions, but somehow being able to prove it can handle those number of transactions, because that's where anti-bitshares people will start off. "Big claims, no deliver" and stuff like that.

Btw, I really like those numbers  8)

Having that said, good work guys, it's finally going to pay off!  +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 04, 2015, 09:45:55 pm
The key word here is "could" ahah I assume then we won't have the wallet ready for 100,00 tps right? I'm not particularly worried about that. Just expect trolls to use that to say BitShares tried to hype, didn't deliver, scam, etc. But if a decent amount of transactions could be proven to be done in the chain, it could ease some minds.

It Bitshares was even to do 1000 tps, it would make a profit from fees of over 17 million dollars in a single day (at 20 cents each).  Or 3.5 million if those transactions were all done from lifetime members.   That would sure rock the market cap. ;)  The TPS bitshares will be able to handle will be scaled up over time as we get more use.

Yes, I'm not talking about having a high number of transactions, but somehow being able to prove it can handle those number of transactions, because that's where anti-bitshares people will start off. "Big claims, no deliver" and stuff like that.

Btw, I really like those numbers  8)

Having that said, good work guys, it's finally going to pay off!  +5%
I agree that one of the most important test now is getting load testing going that reaches the 100,000tps range.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bytemaster on September 04, 2015, 10:16:45 pm
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.   
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 04, 2015, 10:24:23 pm
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.

I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 04, 2015, 10:30:52 pm
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.

How far can it go with 'standard' network connections?  At least attempt to max this out. :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: tonyk on September 04, 2015, 10:48:21 pm
Very nice and timely...

These (even if target time is missed by a week or 2) are very nice news and perfectly coinciding with my prediction for a[edit bout] 50% drop (made here
… but by now those stupid BTS should have fallen by more than 50% in CNY terms ( aren’t they BM?) (alternatively BM should have come back to his senses)…but this were the good old days, I guess and I should have been able to make my 100% gain by now.
and here
When the lead developer of the project wants the BTS price to go down* who am I to argue with him. And as I have no other means to short BTS I did the next best thing - sold [edit all my BTS] (not now but within days of the brownie points announcement) and am waiting for the price to at least cut in half to buy back.
)

In so many words...time to buy back my BTS. And for you to do the same (or even short bitUSD or whatever your risk profile calls for)...

my 2 c - buy Buy BUY  :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on September 04, 2015, 10:50:34 pm
Very nice and timely...

These (even if target time is missed by a week or 2) are very nice news and perfectly coinciding with my prediction for a[edit bout] 50% drop (made here
… but by now those stupid BTS should have fallen by more than 50% in CNY terms ( aren’t they BM?) (alternatively BM should have come back to his senses)…but this were the good old days, I guess and I should have been able to make my 100% gain by now.
and here
When the lead developer of the project wants the BTS price to go down* who am I to argue with him. And as I have no other means to short BTS I did the next best thing - sold [edit all my BTS] (not now but within days of the brownie points announcement) and am waiting for the price to at least cut in half to buy back.
)

In so many words...time to buy back my BTS. And for you to do the same (or even short bitUSD or whatever your risk profile calls for)...

my 2 c - buy Buy BUY  :)

Tony's back!!

BULLISH!!

 :D
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 04, 2015, 10:54:41 pm
Well done tonyk.

Two times during this drop I sold a bunch of bts and bought back lower.  from like 2900 to 2500 sats, and again from 2100 to 1600.  But it was only like 10-20% of my BTS.   Wouldve done better if I had had the balls to do what you did, but I dont want to be out of BTS, ever. 

I've added a bunch under 1600 sats though, which I'm pretty happy about.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: jsidhu on September 04, 2015, 10:56:35 pm
Very nice and timely...

These (even if target time is missed by a week or 2) are very nice news and perfectly coinciding with my prediction for a[edit bout] 50% drop (made here
… but by now those stupid BTS should have fallen by more than 50% in CNY terms ( aren’t they BM?) (alternatively BM should have come back to his senses)…but this were the good old days, I guess and I should have been able to make my 100% gain by now.
and here
When the lead developer of the project wants the BTS price to go down* who am I to argue with him. And as I have no other means to short BTS I did the next best thing - sold [edit all my BTS] (not now but within days of the brownie points announcement) and am waiting for the price to at least cut in half to buy back.
)

In so many words...time to buy back my BTS. And for you to do the same (or even short bitUSD or whatever your risk profile calls for)...

my 2 c - buy Buy BUY  :)
When Tony says buy you buy.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: montpelerin on September 04, 2015, 11:04:51 pm
Very nice and timely...

These (even if target time is missed by a week or 2) are very nice news and perfectly coinciding with my prediction for a[edit bout] 50% drop (made here
… but by now those stupid BTS should have fallen by more than 50% in CNY terms ( aren’t they BM?) (alternatively BM should have come back to his senses)…but this were the good old days, I guess and I should have been able to make my 100% gain by now.
and here
When the lead developer of the project wants the BTS price to go down* who am I to argue with him. And as I have no other means to short BTS I did the next best thing - sold [edit all my BTS] (not now but within days of the brownie points announcement) and am waiting for the price to at least cut in half to buy back.
)

In so many words...time to buy back my BTS. And for you to do the same (or even short bitUSD or whatever your risk profile calls for)...

my 2 c - buy Buy BUY  :)
When Tony says buy you buy.

 ;D

 +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 04, 2015, 11:35:24 pm
When Tony says buy you buy.

We've got ourselves a BitShares meme right there
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: onceuponatime on September 04, 2015, 11:38:00 pm
When Tony says buy you buy.

We've got ourselves a BitShares meme right there

OK then, but when Tony says "die", you die!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: JA on September 04, 2015, 11:42:34 pm
When Tony says buy you buy.

We've got ourselves a BitShares meme right there
(http://i.imgur.com/59oyMFw.jpg)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: ebit on September 05, 2015, 12:55:20 am
 +5%
perfect time
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Moon on September 05, 2015, 01:40:18 am
nice ! +5% +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: sudo on September 05, 2015, 04:12:30 am
oct 21th????
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: liondani on September 05, 2015, 04:28:17 am
Very nice and timely...

These (even if target time is missed by a week or 2) are very nice news and perfectly coinciding with my prediction for a[edit bout] 50% drop (made here
… but by now those stupid BTS should have fallen by more than 50% in CNY terms ( aren’t they BM?) (alternatively BM should have come back to his senses)…but this were the good old days, I guess and I should have been able to make my 100% gain by now.
and here
When the lead developer of the project wants the BTS price to go down* who am I to argue with him. And as I have no other means to short BTS I did the next best thing - sold [edit all my BTS] (not now but within days of the brownie points announcement) and am waiting for the price to at least cut in half to buy back.
)

In so many words...time to buy back my BTS. And for you to do the same (or even short bitUSD or whatever your risk profile calls for)...

my 2 c - buy Buy BUY  :)

(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-I4MR4Jhdcw0%2FTZ-M8TXKtuI%2FAAAAAAAAApE%2FdlGAHoZQ-6k%2Fs1600%2Fexcited_boy.jpg&sp=8010ff1f179cca8daf6d8cf6cf08e823)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cube on September 05, 2015, 04:46:42 am
When Tony says buy you buy.

A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)

Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.

I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects

Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.


Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: sudo on September 05, 2015, 05:42:01 am
When Tony says buy you buy.

A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)

Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.

I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects

Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.


good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: betax on September 05, 2015, 06:43:59 am
The mumble unedited (if you cannot wait for fuzzys edited nice version) here https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjbxqvsuduopmj8/Mumble-2015-09-04-15-03-34-mumble.beyondbitcoinshow.com-Mixdown.mp3?dl=0
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 05, 2015, 07:07:51 am
@Stan http://www.coindesk.com/press-release-submission/
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: fav on September 05, 2015, 07:25:53 am
 +5% the countdown means a lot of work for everyone I guess.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 05, 2015, 08:25:28 am
When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cass on September 05, 2015, 08:39:15 am
+5% the countdown means a lot of work for everyone I guess.

this  :P
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: puppies on September 05, 2015, 08:52:37 am
+5% the countdown means a lot of work for everyone I guess.

this  :P

In a countdown don't you just count backwards?  How hard is that? 

Just kidding.  I'm really tired, and this is probably only funny to me.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cass on September 05, 2015, 09:05:11 am
+5% the countdown means a lot of work for everyone I guess.

this  :P

In a countdown don't you just count backwards?  How hard is that? 

Just kidding.  I'm really tired, and this is probably only funny to me.

LOL - get some sleep :P
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Shentist on September 05, 2015, 09:06:03 am
this is clearly something for BTS 2.0 undersection so pls can someonw move it.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cass on September 05, 2015, 09:56:58 am
this is clearly something for BTS 2.0 undersection so pls can someonw move it.

imo it's also a general info .. we can move it later on ... but general is the most viewed board .. thoughts?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: fav on September 05, 2015, 09:59:55 am
this is clearly something for BTS 2.0 undersection so pls can someonw move it.

imo it's also a general info .. we can move it later on ... but general is the most viewed board .. thoughts?

this. it's perfectly fine to start a thread here for the time being. But we need to come to a point where this forum is more structured.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cass on September 05, 2015, 10:54:17 am
this is clearly something for BTS 2.0 undersection so pls can someonw move it.

imo it's also a general info .. we can move it later on ... but general is the most viewed board .. thoughts?

this. it's perfectly fine to start a thread here for the time being. But we need to come to a point where this forum is more structured.

yeah and mabye we should start a discussion about another forum software again @vikram  .. main problem currently IMO … is menpower ...^
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: wuyanren on September 05, 2015, 11:09:49 am
I saw a lot of problems still have not repaired, we should not rush to publish
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: lakerta06 on September 05, 2015, 12:21:04 pm
I saw a lot of problems still have not repaired, we should not rush to publish
and they are?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: wuyanren on September 05, 2015, 12:28:06 pm
I saw a lot of problems still have not repaired, we should not rush to publish
and they are?
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues  You can see it here.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: liondani on September 05, 2015, 12:33:14 pm
this is clearly something for BTS 2.0 undersection so pls can someonw move it.

imo it's also a general info .. we can move it later on ... but general is the most viewed board .. thoughts?

this. it's perfectly fine to start a thread here for the time being. But we need to come to a point where this forum is more structured.

yeah and mabye we should start a discussion about another forum software again @vikram  .. main problem currently IMO … is menpower ...^

what about adding the slack option on top of our forum?
Very solid environment !

https://slack.com/
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: sudo on September 05, 2015, 01:02:05 pm
When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).

bingo   video  upload to  youtube   paste to bitcointalk & twitter facebook  etc.  best prove
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Stan on September 05, 2015, 01:43:26 pm
oct 21th????

October 21, 2015 is a key Nexus point in one of the most intricate time travel movies of all time.

(https://i.gyazo.com/c6c4319de0f24a128fcd4b554573c555.png)

So you see that by introducing BitShares 2.0 before the events of this date we risk upsetting the entire timeline for the rest of the movie series.  The influence of this series on certain BitShares developers is indisputable.  Changing the movie could cause BitShares to never be invented!

Granted, this is a worst case scenario.  The effects could be limited to just this part of the Galaxy...
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: lakerta06 on September 05, 2015, 10:25:41 pm
I saw a lot of problems still have not repaired, we should not rush to publish
and they are?
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues  You can see it here.

there are only 3 bugs, 2 of them being labeled high-priority. I wouldn't say "a lot of problems" but  is not my call anyways.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Overthetop on September 06, 2015, 12:22:50 am
Great to see we get so far ,and great job every one.  +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 06, 2015, 12:48:51 am
When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).

Please, do this! You know the positive impact it would have  +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: phillyguy on September 06, 2015, 01:48:00 am

When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).

Please, do this! You know the positive impact it would have  +5% +5% +5%

Agreed!!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Stan on September 06, 2015, 02:30:08 am

When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).

Please, do this! You know the positive impact it would have  +5% +5% +5%

Agreed!!

Good idea.  No spare cycles here though, we're pedaling as hard as we can.
Someone want to take a shot at it?
I'm sure it would be appreciated...

:)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: liondani on September 06, 2015, 03:06:56 am
Good idea.  No spare cycles here though, we're pedaling as hard as we can.
Someone want to take a shot at it?
I'm sure it would be appreciated...

:)

I smell brownies again!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cube on September 06, 2015, 03:21:56 am
I think this is a nice idea being slowly developed!   +5%

How about all the delegates combine force to do a 'blasting' in order to max out the Internet-based transaction.  The devs can possibly do their LAN test since they have the number of computers and a fast gigabit local area network.  We will need to co-ordinate the timing here.

How about that, guys?  If you are keen, please SAY IT!


When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).

Please, do this! You know the positive impact it would have  +5% +5% +5%

Agreed!!

Good idea.  No spare cycles here though, we're pedaling as hard as we can.
Someone want to take a shot at it?
I'm sure it would be appreciated...

:)

Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: wuyanren on September 06, 2015, 03:28:39 am
I saw a lot of problems still have not repaired, we should not rush to publish
and they are?
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues  You can see it here.

there are only 3 bugs, 2 of them being labeled high-priority. I wouldn't say "a lot of problems" but  is not my call anyways.
sorry,I don't understand
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: wuyanren on September 06, 2015, 03:31:04 am
I think, it should be released a DVS client, so that more people to participate in the test, in the final time
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cube on September 06, 2015, 03:34:33 am
I think, it should be released a DVS client, so that more people to participate in the test, in the final time

There is nothing to stop anyone of us from joining the test net.  All are welcome!

Check out https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17962.0.html and  https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18312.0.html.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: wuyanren on September 06, 2015, 04:25:34 am
I think, it should be released a DVS client, so that more people to participate in the test, in the final time

There is nothing to stop anyone of us from joining the test net.  All are welcome!

Check out https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17962.0.html and  https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18312.0.html.
谢谢
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: nethyb on September 06, 2015, 04:48:50 am
I think this is a nice idea being slowly developed!   +5%

How about all the delegates combine force to do a 'blasting' in order to max out the Internet-based transaction.  The devs can possibly do their LAN test since they have the number of computers and a fast gigabit local area network.  We will need to co-ordinate the timing here.

How about that, guys?  If you are keen, please SAY IT!


When Tony says buy you buy.
A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

 
good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

@bytemaster @Stan - to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).

Please, do this! You know the positive impact it would have  +5% +5% +5%

Agreed!!

Good idea.  No spare cycles here though, we're pedaling as hard as we can.
Someone want to take a shot at it?
I'm sure it would be appreciated...

:)

I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.

Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.

Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)

If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cube on September 06, 2015, 06:03:17 am
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.

Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.

Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)

If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

This is cool!  Yes, for those who wish to contribute $$$ instead of time, please do so.  We can fund this (both in $$$ and effort/time) and achieve a massive blast (near 100K TPS hopefully) via multiple nodes in LAN and then over the Internet.  Donors and volunteers, please SAY I.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bobmaloney on September 06, 2015, 06:29:03 am
Donor:

"I"
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: CLains on September 06, 2015, 06:58:49 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok7WusA_1G8  :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: fav on September 06, 2015, 07:04:53 am
Can we test the referral system prior to the release?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Tuck Fheman on September 06, 2015, 07:30:47 am
Can we test the referral system prior to the release?

 +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Pheonike on September 06, 2015, 09:20:41 am
I'm willing!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on September 06, 2015, 10:40:47 am
  +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 06, 2015, 11:53:50 am
Any estimation of when we will be able to import our BTS balances to the new chain? Will it be after the countdown begins or only after the 30 days, when the fork happens?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: xeroc on September 06, 2015, 12:09:23 pm
Any estimation of when we will be able to import our BTS balances to the new chain? Will it be after the countdown begins or only after the 30 days, when the fork happens?
New chain will launch after the 30 day .. so you can only import your balancea then
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 07, 2015, 10:43:22 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3jvo9k/bitshares_says_it_will_be_able_to_complete_100000/?sort=confidence

Toast is out there all alone, to the rescue! On a more serious note, this is to be expected..

Ethereum is very interesting and I like the project but I tend to see the community turning into the next moneros and nxt fanboys.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 07, 2015, 10:55:29 am
I think this is a nice idea being slowly developed!   +5%
LAN test
We will need to co-ordinate the timing here.

How about that, guys?  If you are keen, please SAY IT!

A trully elevating feeling to see 2.0 coming of age.  :)
Load testing at 100K TPS will not be viable with standard network connections.
I see, thanks for the reply. Well I'm sure as we start to test transactions speed, that even at a relatively low number for BitShares, it's still a huge number compared with other projects
Yea. I wonder if it is possible to show that we can achieve 100K TPS in a Local Area Network (LAN) and an average maximum speed at XXX TPS for LIVE network due to a limitation of an witness node Internet speed averaged out.  This can satisfy our claim that bts can achieve 100K TPS if and when the Internet bandwidth reaches LAN speed.

good idea    lan   Low latency ,Pressure test mining limit and find bottlenecks

to prove it, just take your phone and video record a 1min clip or something showing a split screen. CLI on one side and xeroc's new tps gauge (http://stats.bitshares.eu) on the other side, then post it to the YT 2.0 vids (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7QO5WHjpx6w3o_xQD6JLm4R).
Please, do this! You know the positive impact it would have  +5% +5% +5%
Agreed!!
Good idea.  No spare cycles here though, we're pedaling as hard as we can.
Someone want to take a shot at it?

I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)

If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

 
www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3jvo9k/bitshares_says_it_will_be_able_to_complete_100000/?sort=confidence

 
I will donate some BTS to this LAN test.
We need a bts account to donate to please, if you can spin up the AWS instances and video record it as per above............
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: tonyk on September 07, 2015, 11:00:20 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3jvo9k/bitshares_says_it_will_be_able_to_complete_100000/?sort=confidence

Toast is out there all alone, to the rescue! On a more serious note, this is to be expected..

Ethereum is very interesting and I like the project but I tend to see the community turning into the next moneros and nxt fanboys.

Well, I do not get why I need to support  someone who is toast(ed) already, especially if he cannot (has not) proven  his brownie's worth!
[/ sarcasm ...just for the one that do get it/me]
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: emailtooaj on September 07, 2015, 06:42:22 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.

Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.

Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)

If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

This is cool!  Yes, for those who wish to contribute $$$ instead of time, please do so.  We can fund this (both in $$$ and effort/time) and achieve a massive blast (near 100K TPS hopefully) via multiple nodes in LAN and then over the Internet.  Donors and volunteers, please SAY I.
I would like to help support with some donation. Please pm me with bts address and how much you think you'll need.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 07, 2015, 07:10:22 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: JA on September 07, 2015, 07:33:57 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
any estimation on how much it would cost in the end?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: onceuponatime on September 07, 2015, 07:35:42 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

@onceuponatime
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: emailtooaj on September 07, 2015, 07:38:59 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
any estimation on how much it would cost in the end?

Based on nethyb's post of $1.68/hr that would be (at current rates) 362 BTS for each hour, not including time and labor...
I'm willing to chip in min 2500 BTS
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: godzirra on September 07, 2015, 07:42:13 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

I can't do much to test but I can pitch in for the donation.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: emailtooaj on September 07, 2015, 07:42:42 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
any estimation on how much it would cost in the end?

Based on nethyb's post of $1.68/hr that would be (at current rates) 362 BTS for each hour, not including time and labor...
I'm willing to chip in min 2500 BTS

Let's take this momentum and push forward!!
Now's the time to squeeze out any bugs before crunch time. If this initiative will help propel a flawless 2.0 launch I'm all about it!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: rnglab on September 07, 2015, 07:46:14 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.

Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.

Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)

If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

This is cool!  Yes, for those who wish to contribute $$$ instead of time, please do so.  We can fund this (both in $$$ and effort/time) and achieve a massive blast (near 100K TPS hopefully) via multiple nodes in LAN and then over the Internet.  Donors and volunteers, please SAY I.

This.
I'd be glad to help running/funding a public vLAN testnet as a proof of scalability, at the right time.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Marketorder on September 07, 2015, 08:01:30 pm
Have they announce the release date yet? If not what day this week will they make the announcement?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 07, 2015, 08:02:06 pm
I can donate but I'd like to see everything organized first. A date where most members who are using the testnet have agreed upon. Maybe at the usual time of a mumble? Since most people seem to be available at that time.

Will someone stream this or get some kind of proof of all the transactions that were made in real time? I think this deserves a separated thread to get the most attention possible. It's important, would serve as a statement. Bring things up another level in the cryptocommunity. So we don't take threads like this, even if we dont reach the 100k https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3jvo9k/bitshares_says_it_will_be_able_to_complete_100000/ seems to be unavailable at the time this link though
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 07, 2015, 08:21:59 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)
If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

@nethyb - We need a bid, please.
@kenCode @cube @sudo @phillyguy @emailtooaj @onceuponatime @godzirra @rnglab
 
It would be great if we could all record it on video with our phones. Split screen CLI an xeroc's tps gauge. Other ideas welcome.
 
This is 9 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 07, 2015, 08:26:04 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)
If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

@nethyb - We need a bid, please.
@kenCode @cube @sudo @phillyguy @emailtooaj @onceuponatime @godzirra @rnglab
 
It would be great if we could all record it on video with our phones. Split screen CLI an xeroc's tps gauge. Other ideas welcome.
 
This is 9 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

yeah but it will be done on this test net right? Not after it launches. Am I right? Please confirm this as I'm creating a thread with the pool and days for people to pick when they're available.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bobmaloney on September 07, 2015, 08:35:13 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

@bobmaloney 2500 BTS
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: puppies on September 07, 2015, 09:01:58 pm
So you guys are talking about setting up a private network of aws machines in an attempt to push 100k tps?  I don't really see the utility, since it's not something we could currently do in the wild.  I think we would be better served if we got a large amount of people to join the actual test net and see how high we could get the tps there. 
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Stan on September 07, 2015, 09:22:32 pm
Have they announce the release date yet? If not what day this week will they make the announcement?


Here are the available clues:  :)


ANNOUNCEMENT 9 - Pitchfork Countdown Could Begin Next Week

If all goes well next week and no unforeseen snags occur, 
we think we will be able to announce the start of our 30 day countdown to the BitShares 2.0 Pitchfork.

...

Our team will make the final call next week, but we feel we are very close.  The exact 30-day countdown date will be posted in a follow up announcement at that time.  If you are a Partner or 3rd Party developer waiting to begin integration, this is your one week pre-notice to recall your integration teams from summer break in Kokomo and harness them up to their keyboards.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: openledger on September 07, 2015, 09:24:36 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

@bobmaloney 2500 BTS

If I could help I would gladly chip in with 2500 btc, just let me know
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: rnglab on September 07, 2015, 09:26:18 pm
So you guys are talking about setting up a private network of aws machines in an attempt to push 100k tps?  I don't really see the utility, since it's not something we could currently do in the wild.  I think we would be better served if we got a large amount of people to join the actual test net and see how high we could get the tps there.

I see it more as an open demonstration of scalability. 
Sometime after the last code tweaks and dev's local stress tests may result in an auspicious, community driven final test, and also as the opening bells for Bitshares 2.0
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bobmaloney on September 07, 2015, 09:26:40 pm
@nethyb
@kenCode @cube @sudo @Akado @phillyguy @emailtooaj
 
This is 7 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

@bobmaloney 2500 BTS

If I could help I would gladly chip in with 2500 btc, just let me know

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18337.0.html
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 07, 2015, 09:43:34 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)
If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

 
@nethyb - We need a bid, please.
@kenCode @cube @sudo @phillyguy @emailtooaj @onceuponatime @godzirra @rnglab @bobmaloney @ccedk
 
Removing the WAN limitations could prove our scalability beyond 100K tps.. I'm looking forward to this AWS test.
It would be great if we could all record it on video with our phones. Split screen CLI and xeroc's tps gauge. Other ideas welcome.
 
This is 11 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: tonyk on September 07, 2015, 09:55:13 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)
If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

 
@nethyb - We need a bid, please.
@kenCode @cube @sudo @phillyguy @emailtooaj @onceuponatime @godzirra @rnglab @bobmaloney @ccedk
 
Removing the WAN limitations could prove our scalability beyond 100K tps.. I'm looking forward to this AWS test.
It would be great if we could all record it on video with our phones. Split screen CLI and xeroc's tps gauge. Other ideas welcome.
 
This is 11 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
@tonyk 2500 BTS
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: liondani on September 07, 2015, 10:02:19 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)
If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

 
@nethyb - We need a bid, please.
@kenCode @cube @sudo @phillyguy @emailtooaj @onceuponatime @godzirra @rnglab @bobmaloney @ccedk
 
Removing the WAN limitations could prove our scalability beyond 100K tps.. I'm looking forward to this AWS test.
It would be great if we could all record it on video with our phones. Split screen CLI and xeroc's tps gauge. Other ideas welcome.
 
This is 11 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?
@tonyk 2500 BTS

@liondani 2500 BTS
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 07, 2015, 10:02:59 pm
Please post on this thread regarding the scalability test! https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18337.msg234804/topicseen.html#msg234804
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 07, 2015, 10:25:27 pm
Please post on this thread regarding the scalability test! https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18337.msg234804/topicseen.html#msg234804

Done.
Scalability discussion moved here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18337.0.html
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cube on September 07, 2015, 10:50:23 pm
I for one, would be happy to contribute some resources (donate some BTS) or spin up a number of AWS instances to help with load testing, and I'm sure many others in the community would also help if someone could develop the instructions or scripts to perform a private testnet load/tps test.
Using AWS, you could effectively have a 10Gb private LAN with the ability to spin up a significant number of servers for a short period of time at reasonable cost using spot pricing.
Here is an atricle on how someone has configured AWS instances to achieve 1 Million TPS For Just $1.68/Hour - http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html (http://highscalability.com/blog/2014/8/18/1-aerospike-server-x-1-amazon-ec2-instance-1-million-tps-for.html)
If we chime and say we (as the community) would be willing to fund/support/provide resources for this test - it may encourage one us to take it on...

 
@nethyb - We need a bid, please.
@kenCode @cube @sudo @phillyguy @emailtooaj @onceuponatime @godzirra @rnglab @bobmaloney @ccedk
 
Removing the WAN limitations could prove our scalability beyond 100K tps.. I'm looking forward to this AWS test.
It would be great if we could all record it on video with our phones. Split screen CLI and xeroc's tps gauge. Other ideas welcome.
 
This is 11 people so far willing to put in some BTS for this 100K tps LAN test.
Anybody else?

Wow! I am implessed with the spontaneity of the community!

I will put up more detailed ideas/a draft proposal in the scalability thread.

Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: jsidhu on September 07, 2015, 11:36:42 pm
I hope the team finally gets documentation up to par with the complexity of the codebase. If you want avg joe to jump in you will need the ability to explain every step of the system in simple language with examples and screen shots. It would be "nice" if the web wallet were to have a help system to ease avg joe into bitshares. This is what every other crypto project is missing.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cass on September 07, 2015, 11:56:09 pm
I hope the team finally gets documentation up to par with the complexity of the codebase. If you want avg joe to jump in you will need the ability to explain every step of the system in simple language with examples and screen shots. It would be "nice" if the web wallet were to have a help system to ease avg joe into bitshares. This is what every other crypto project is missing.

 +5% like a simple support chat function .. also for website later on .,.. like a support agent ... paid and porposaled by worker slot
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: mike623317 on September 08, 2015, 04:26:46 am
I hope the team finally gets documentation up to par with the complexity of the codebase. If you want avg joe to jump in you will need the ability to explain every step of the system in simple language with examples and screen shots. It would be "nice" if the web wallet were to have a help system to ease avg joe into bitshares. This is what every other crypto project is missing.

^^^^^^ this is very true and what all the techies miss.  +5% +5%

Also, please count me in on the 2500 bts
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: kenCode on September 08, 2015, 05:41:45 am
I hope the team finally gets documentation up to par with the complexity of the codebase. If you want avg joe to jump in you will need the ability to explain every step of the system in simple language with examples and screen shots. It would be "nice" if the web wallet were to have a help system to ease avg joe into bitshares. This is what every other crypto project is missing.
+5% like a simple support chat function .. also for website later on .,.. like a support agent ... paid and porposaled by worker slot

 +5% Streamium would be cool. It has audio, video and chat all built-in to a minimalist cross-browser interface. It could even offer free or paid support channels (or subscriptions?) with it. ie:
https://streamium.io/assets/img/imac-ipad.png
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 09, 2015, 01:17:25 pm
Will we have -even if not at launch- something that could automate a payment for a date in the future? If I'm not mistaken i think that would be something like CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY. Would be another nice security factor so if we schedule a payment for a date in the future, even if that wallet gets stolen, we could get our funds back!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bytemaster on September 09, 2015, 02:08:30 pm
Will we have -even if not at launch- something that could automate a payment for a date in the future? If I'm not mistaken i think that would be something like CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY. Would be another nice security factor so if we schedule a payment for a date in the future, even if that wallet gets stolen, we could get our funds back!

With proposals you can do something like that already.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: phillyguy on September 09, 2015, 04:14:21 pm
I hope the team finally gets documentation up to par with the complexity of the codebase. If you want avg joe to jump in you will need the ability to explain every step of the system in simple language with examples and screen shots. It would be "nice" if the web wallet were to have a help system to ease avg joe into bitshares. This is what every other crypto project is missing.

This. I would support a worker proposal immediately after launch to fund this. Adding familiar support functionality and documentation would make a big difference, I think.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: donkeypong on September 09, 2015, 04:35:09 pm
Please bring on the pitchfork. I'm drowning in brownies!

(http://www.painetworks.com/photos/hw/hw1970.JPG)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Tuck Fheman on September 09, 2015, 04:59:40 pm
Countdown to the BitShares Pitchfork Countdown
http://www.webcountdown.net/?a=jFrVKSz

 :P
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: EstefanTT on September 09, 2015, 05:21:55 pm
That would be great to have something like that on bitshares.org.

The psychological impact between a date of release in one month or a countdown in front of you is really different.
The first one make you think : "I'll come back later", the second one : "that's about to happen, time to invest"

The countdown could be a bit more sexy maybe ...
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: cass on September 09, 2015, 05:36:39 pm
That would be great to have something like that on bitshares.org.

guess it will ..
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: EstefanTT on September 09, 2015, 05:47:21 pm
That would be great to have something like that on bitshares.org.

guess it will ..
When I wrote my comment I was about to @cass you but then I though, he is probably very busy and I didn't.

Do you know something ? Argl ... are you on it ? Damn, you probably can't say. That would be cool, I love your designs !!!!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: emailtooaj on September 09, 2015, 06:11:42 pm
Wasn't there a group photo taken with Dan holding a pitch fork when the bitscape brothers did the tour to Blacksburg, VA?
That would be an epic photo to use for this countdown  :P
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Akado on September 09, 2015, 06:36:43 pm
Will we have -even if not at launch- something that could automate a payment for a date in the future? If I'm not mistaken i think that would be something like CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY. Would be another nice security factor so if we schedule a payment for a date in the future, even if that wallet gets stolen, we could get our funds back!

With proposals you can do something like that already.

Thought so, thanks
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: xeroc on September 09, 2015, 07:11:11 pm
Wasn't there a group photo taken with Dan holding a pitch fork when the bitscape brothers did the tour to Blacksburg, VA?
That would be an epic photo to use for this countdown  :P
This!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 09, 2015, 09:48:54 pm
2 days left now.  How are you guys feeling about the testnet?  On track for friday?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bytemaster on September 09, 2015, 10:32:16 pm
2 days left now.  How are you guys feeling about the testnet?  On track for friday?

I believe that the test network has proven robust enough to replace the BTS 1.0 network in 30 days.

We have some graceful fallback positions that can be taken without missing the upgrade deadline:

1.  If all witnesses are on a single node then the network works perfectly, even with 1 second blocks
2.  Have several different witnesses all run from the same Amazon or Digital Ocean location
3.  Have all witnesses use a dedicated server to relay messages through while being geographically diverse
4.  Have all witnesses use current P2P and reduce block times to 5 seconds

In any event we are confident in the market behavior and evaluation of transactions and see no reason to delay upgrading the protocol simply because of networking/communication issues.

On the user interface side we have a viable wallet that supports:

1. market operations
2. transfers
3. voting
4. backups

Over the course of the next 30 days we will continue to refine the user interface, but at the very least it should be better than BTS 1 long before 30 days is up.

In other words, I am feeling pretty good about having the upgrade date be:  Tuesday, October 13th  (middle of work week)



Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Chuckone on September 09, 2015, 10:45:34 pm
2 days left now.  How are you guys feeling about the testnet?  On track for friday?

I believe that the test network has proven robust enough to replace the BTS 1.0 network in 30 days.

We have some graceful fallback positions that can be taken without missing the upgrade deadline:

1.  If all witnesses are on a single node then the network works perfectly, even with 1 second blocks
2.  Have several different witnesses all run from the same Amazon or Digital Ocean location
3.  Have all witnesses use a dedicated server to relay messages through while being geographically diverse
4.  Have all witnesses use current P2P and reduce block times to 5 seconds

In any event we are confident in the market behavior and evaluation of transactions and see no reason to delay upgrading the protocol simply because of networking/communication issues.

On the user interface side we have a viable wallet that supports:

1. market operations
2. transfers
3. voting
4. backups

Over the course of the next 30 days we will continue to refine the user interface, but at the very least it should be better than BTS 1 long before 30 days is up.

In other words, I am feeling pretty good about having the upgrade date be:  Tuesday, October 13th  (middle of work week)

I believe this announcement deserves its own thread ;) Good news indeed and great work!
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 09, 2015, 10:48:38 pm
Nice, great job Bytemaster and every single person who worked on this!

And yeah, if you guys are feeling confident in this, its probably announcement thread time.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: donkeypong on September 09, 2015, 11:32:55 pm
For every time one of us has urged you to rush this, you deserve ten big thank you's for the hard work and dedication.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Ander on September 09, 2015, 11:39:24 pm
Everyone's dedication has been incredible.  You guys persevered through many hard times, and a mountain of FUD.  Time to show to the world that BTS is for real. :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: canucklehead on September 09, 2015, 11:41:16 pm
 +5% :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: bobmaloney on September 09, 2015, 11:44:24 pm
In other words, I am feeling pretty good about having the upgrade date be:  Tuesday, October 13th  (middle of work week)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xKy2w6LehxxHa/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: merivercap on September 09, 2015, 11:54:13 pm
 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Tuck Fheman on September 10, 2015, 12:09:33 am
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6c9469c6cff1eb4333de68c3c2f38ae5/tumblr_nufpocurXm1rtef2wo1_1280.png)

10 Brownie.PTS to first person to call out the "easter egg".
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: mike623317 on September 10, 2015, 12:10:14 am
In other words, I am feeling pretty good about having the upgrade date be:  Tuesday, October 13th  (middle of work week)

Good news BM.
At least its not a friday on this particular 13th.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: canucklehead on September 10, 2015, 12:13:23 am
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6c9469c6cff1eb4333de68c3c2f38ae5/tumblr_nufpocurXm1rtef2wo1_1280.png)

10 Brownie.PTS to first person to call out the "easter egg".

I noticed the address 1013 in the background. Very clever.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: Tuck Fheman on September 10, 2015, 12:15:51 am
I noticed the address 1013 in the background. Very clever.

 ;)
whats' your bts address?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: phillyguy on September 10, 2015, 12:17:15 am

For every time one of us has urged you to rush this, you deserve ten big thank you's for the hard work and dedication.

Absolutely. Nice work guys. You have a lot to be proud of.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Countdown May Begin Next Week
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 10, 2015, 12:28:10 am
WOOOO HOOOO!

(http://media.giphy.com/media/Z2KAcJtfsU5W0/giphy.gif)