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Title: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 25, 2015, 01:07:19 am
This thread is for guessing at what price level BTS will surpass ETH.

I guess 40M.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: puppies on September 25, 2015, 01:52:22 am
I'm gonna say 36 and for bonus points I'm gonna say Oct 21st 2015. 
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: btswildpig on September 25, 2015, 03:41:10 am
I  say it's not gonna happen .

Dumpers will dump exactly before BTS pass ETH because they knew more and more people would wait until BTS pass ETH to sell . So it's safe for the dumpers to dump before that obvious expectation .

Kind of like last year when people were expecting BTS to pass LTC  .
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: chryspano on September 25, 2015, 06:46:18 am
30M
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: xeroc on September 25, 2015, 07:35:11 am
I still wonder about the value people see in ETH ..
The value of Ethereum is huge .. but not the value of ETH .. at least not at this point in time .. the value proposition for eth is basically the same as xrp .. IMHO
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on September 25, 2015, 10:06:39 am
42M
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 25, 2015, 03:58:40 pm
I still wonder about the value people see in ETH ..
The value of Ethereum is huge .. but not the value of ETH .. at least not at this point in time .. the value proposition for eth is basically the same as xrp .. IMHO

Yes, ETH is to the Ethereum network as XRP is to the Ripple network. 
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: santaclause102 on September 25, 2015, 04:38:24 pm
I still wonder about the value people see in ETH ..
The value of Ethereum is huge .. but not the value of ETH .. at least not at this point in time .. the value proposition for eth is basically the same as xrp .. IMHO

Yes, ETH is to the Ethereum network as XRP is to the Ripple network.
Also it's not that different from BTS. BTS, ETH and XRP are all counterparty free assets that must be used to pay for tx costs which gives them their initial value. They can also all be used as collateral if there is a bitasset equivalant (maker for Ethereum for example) and all can be used as the asset that has the most liquidity against all other assts in the DEXs. Difference is BTS MUST be used with the non private bitassets as collateral. Other fundamental differences you see?
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 25, 2015, 04:56:22 pm
Thats the main difference.  Any bitshares clone must use an equivalent of BTS, so you cannot gain by simply removing it.

ETH does better than XRP I think in needing ETH in the network, as payment for use of the apps that people develop.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: santaclause102 on September 25, 2015, 05:09:23 pm
Thats the main difference.  Any bitshares clone must use an equivalent of BTS, so you cannot gain by simply removing it.
What do you mean by "equivalent of BTS"?
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 25, 2015, 05:55:54 pm
token that is used as collateral and for transaction fees in the network.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: xeroc on September 25, 2015, 06:22:38 pm
In bts you can use bitassets to pay the fee ... more precisely they are autoconverted to bts by the dex
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: tbone on September 25, 2015, 07:59:52 pm
If the value proposition for ETH is the same as XRP, then that bodes well for ETH since XRP market cap is currently 4 times the size.  Actually, I think eventually ETH may be worth far more than this.  But right now it's substantially overvalued.

Anyway, my guess is $38M for the BTS/ETH valuation cross-over.
 

I still wonder about the value people see in ETH ..
The value of Ethereum is huge .. but not the value of ETH .. at least not at this point in time .. the value proposition for eth is basically the same as xrp .. IMHO

Yes, ETH is to the Ethereum network as XRP is to the Ripple network.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 25, 2015, 08:40:35 pm
In bts you can use bitassets to pay the fee ... more precisely they are autoconverted to bts by the dex

Yes.  Ultimately every payment is via BTS, even if you spend something else.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: santaclause102 on September 25, 2015, 09:30:14 pm
Thats the main difference.  Any bitshares clone must use an equivalent of BTS, so you cannot gain by simply removing it.
Still didnt get where the difference is. Maybe you can say it differently?
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 25, 2015, 09:58:09 pm
Thats the main difference.  Any bitshares clone must use an equivalent of BTS, so you cannot gain by simply removing it.
Still didnt get where the difference is. Maybe you can say it differently?

BTS is necessary to the way that the Bitshares blockchain works.  You cannot have collateral and market pegged assets without it.

It is easier to clone a version of ripple that doesnt have the XRP token in it, because the XRP token doesnt actually serve much function in the blockchain, it simply exists to make ripple labs and early adopters rich.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: santaclause102 on September 26, 2015, 06:54:40 am
Thats the main difference.  Any bitshares clone must use an equivalent of BTS, so you cannot gain by simply removing it.
Still didnt get where the difference is. Maybe you can say it differently?

BTS is necessary to the way that the Bitshares blockchain works.  You cannot have collateral and market pegged assets without it.

It is easier to clone a version of ripple that doesnt have the XRP token in it, because the XRP token doesnt actually serve much function in the blockchain, it simply exists to make ripple labs and early adopters rich.
I agree if we assume that Bitassets are the defining part of Bitshares.
But that still doesnt give BTS more value because others forks would just have their own chain with their own BTS-similar token (unless you mean that the graphene license agreement forces them to sharedrop).
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ben Mason on September 26, 2015, 08:52:56 am
Between 27 & 32m.

I think it's reasonable to expect ethereum to partially sell off once bitshares 2.0 launches, assuming delivery on promise and a commensurate price rise.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: unreadPostsSinceLastVisit on September 26, 2015, 06:23:37 pm
50

50 million and 1 if somebody already guessed 50 and I overlooked it.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: santaclause102 on September 26, 2015, 07:46:42 pm
37m
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on September 28, 2015, 07:16:29 am
Oh wow, I think I guessed too high!
Now I'm thinking maybe 25M.
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: salva82 on September 28, 2015, 08:24:13 pm
32 M
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: iHashFury on September 28, 2015, 09:18:57 pm
26M
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: lakerta06 on September 28, 2015, 09:20:23 pm
23M
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: mf-tzo on September 29, 2015, 07:26:33 pm
40M
Title: Re: Predict what will be the price of ETH and BTS the first time that BTS passes ETH
Post by: Ander on October 07, 2015, 09:50:51 pm
I am thinking 20M now.