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Title: [AGS] Angelshares daily statistics (updated)
Post by: 5chdn on January 01, 2014, 11:59:30 pm
01/01/2014: 94,464.08 USD
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.
01/02/2014: 100,611.74 USD
Angleshares value in PTS: 1.676 AGS/PTS = 11.29 USD. Total donations today: 2,983.988 PTS = 56,888.95 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 92.060 AGS/BTC = 8.74 USD. Total donations today: 54.312 BTC = 43,722.79 USD.
01/03/2014: 93,642.06 USD
Angleshares value in PTS: 1.866 AGS/PTS = 10.20 USD. Total donations today: 2,679.743 PTS = 51,022.31 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 94.800 AGS/BTC = 8.52 USD. Total donations today: 52.742 BTC = 42,619.76 USD.
01/04/2014: 109,428.57 USD
Angleshares value in PTS: 1.865 AGS/PTS = 10.33 USD. Total donations today: 2,681.503 PTS = 51,672.56 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 72.247 AGS/BTC = 11.55 USD. Total donations today: 69.207 BTC = 57,756.01 USD.

Total: 398,146.45 USD

Keeping this updated. Note the value in USD is just the snapshot of the day.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: bytemaster on January 02, 2014, 12:05:59 am
It is still possible for a block to come in with a timestamp from yesterday if the miner's clock is off. 
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: 5chdn on January 02, 2014, 12:12:11 am
It is still possible for a block to come in with a timestamp from yesterday if the miner's clock is off.

I have no idea which timestamp is added to the block.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: Amazon on January 02, 2014, 12:22:25 am
Thanks for the stat, saved my time calculating.

Do you think we need Angleshares board for Stats and future discussion? Or General discussion is good enough? Any suggestion?
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: bytemaster on January 02, 2014, 12:23:23 am
Thanks for the stat, saved my time calculating.

Do you think we need Angleshares board for Stats and future discussion? Or General discussion is good enough? Any suggestion?

A dedicated board will allow people to filter it and keep things cleaner.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: phoenix on January 02, 2014, 12:39:54 am
Thanks for the stat, saved my time calculating.

Do you think we need Angleshares board for Stats and future discussion? Or General discussion is good enough? Any suggestion?

A dedicated board will allow people to filter it and keep things cleaner.

I agree
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: bytemaster on January 02, 2014, 12:41:01 am
At this rate we will raise $3M per month... lets get to work making this happen!
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: 5chdn on January 02, 2014, 12:42:59 am
Thanks for the stat, saved my time calculating.

Taken from my ags-parser: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1853.0

Do you think we need Angleshares board for Stats and future discussion? Or General discussion is good enough? Any suggestion?

yea, we should have one!
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: Stan on January 02, 2014, 01:26:43 am
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

That's a total funding of 94,464.08 USD on day one! Good job!

Folks who moved from PTS/BTC to AGS today more than doubled their stake in BitShares and subsequent DACs. 
I wonder how long that deal will hold up...

"...And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one"



Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on January 02, 2014, 07:13:37 am
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

That's a total funding of 94,464.08 USD on day one! Good job!

Folks who moved from PTS/BTC to AGS today more than doubled their stake in BitShares and subsequent DACs. 
I wonder how long that deal will hold up...

"...And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one"

PTS is more valuable for sure, cause you can buy and sell at any time. AGS will not be close to PTS's value until really exciting DAC comes out. Right?
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: bytemaster on January 02, 2014, 07:18:37 am
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

That's a total funding of 94,464.08 USD on day one! Good job!

Folks who moved from PTS/BTC to AGS today more than doubled their stake in BitShares and subsequent DACs. 
I wonder how long that deal will hold up...

"...And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one"

PTS is more valuable for sure, cause you can buy and sell at any time. AGS will not be close to PTS's value until really exciting DAC comes out. Right?

PTS is more likely to get you a cut of 3rd party DACs and is more liquid.   So I would consider PTS the investment choice for those on the fence, and AGS for those who are committed.

Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: voldemort628 on January 02, 2014, 08:01:34 am

PTS is more likely to get you a cut of 3rd party DACs and is more liquid.   So I would consider PTS the investment choice for those on the fence, and AGS for those who are committed.

the trick is to find a mix between pts and ags that youre comfortable with, or one that fit your investment strategy best :)
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: MrJeans on January 02, 2014, 01:48:00 pm
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

That's a total funding of 94,464.08 USD on day one! Good job!

Folks who moved from PTS/BTC to AGS today more than doubled their stake in BitShares and subsequent DACs. 
I wonder how long that deal will hold up...

"...And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one"
Hi Stan,
I thought AngelShares was for BitShares allocation only.
And there will be a new AngelShares for other DACs.
Is this AGS funding round for all future DACs by Invictus.

How will Invictus fund other DACs if the AGS promise is all used up?

(The bountiful bounties thread looks very exciting, but if AGS is only a once off thing, I dont see where future funding will come from).

Thanks
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: Stan on January 02, 2014, 02:54:59 pm
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

That's a total funding of 94,464.08 USD on day one! Good job!

Folks who moved from PTS/BTC to AGS today more than doubled their stake in BitShares and subsequent DACs. 
I wonder how long that deal will hold up...

"...And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one"
Hi Stan,
I thought AngelShares was for BitShares allocation only.
And there will be a new AngelShares for other DACs.
Is this AGS funding round for all future DACs by Invictus.

How will Invictus fund other DACs if the AGS promise is all used up?

(The bountiful bounties thread looks very exciting, but if AGS is only a once off thing, I dont see where future funding will come from).

Thanks

AngelShares builds the infrastructure on which many new DACs may be built.  That includes a development toolkit, support software, documentation, standards, industry promotion, glossy web sites, tutorial videos, legal theory, DAC incubation, etc.  The foundation is complete by definition when AngelShares funds run out. 

Then each DAC builds on top of that foundation and hopefully honors the people who contributed to make it possible.  Our first BitShares DAC already had its own funding so there was no need to raise special-purpose funds for it.  Future DACs, however, might be expected to raise whatever funding is necessary to layer functionality on top of the AngelShares foundation.  One way might be to allocate a third 10% (or more) for specific "DACshares" that allow people to invest in a single DAC the way AngelShares allows investment in the overall DAC industry.

Our web site sums it up this way:

Quote
Both ProtoShares and AngelShares rely upon the willingness of developers to honor those contributions with shares in the DACs they develop.  We expect a Social Consensus to form in the marketplace about what constitutes honorable developer behavior. ProtoShares and AngelShares constitute concrete documentation of what benefits developers received from those who laid the industry foundation.  Shares in individual DACs are concrete way for developers to acknowledge and reciprocate those benefits.  How the market responds to a new DAC will depend upon how well that DAC is perceived to have honored the emerging Social Consensus.

We see a consensus beginning to form around the following principles:  (a) Developers should seek a reasonable balance between equal-opportunity lotteries and ways to compensate those who sacrifice their savings or labor. (b) The market needs to give developers freedom to raise funds to develop, support and promote their new DACs.  We believe that the following allocation represents the minimum fair genesis allocation.

10% of the crypto-equity should be allocated to holders of ProtoShares.
10% of the crypto-equity should be allocated to holders of AngelShares.
80% of the crypto-equity should be customized to the needs of each DAC.


In the case of the first BitShares DAC, since it had its own funding, we decided to just let holders of ProtoShares and AngelShares be the official distributors of BitShares to future users of the system with 50% of the total shares each.  Somebody always winds up in that role anyway, why not let it be the people who donated time, talent, and energy to build the industry?  That should be plenty decentralized and fair to future newcomers.

Other DACs will experiment with other approaches, no doubt.

Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: bitcoinba on January 02, 2014, 03:17:03 pm
Is this information accurate: http://angelshares.info/beta/

It does not seem consistent with the results in the first post here, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: RejectKid on January 02, 2014, 03:22:44 pm
where is this exchange numbers coming from? where AGS/PTS is 2.XX
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: dahongfei on January 02, 2014, 05:04:43 pm
Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

That's a total funding of 94,464.08 USD on day one! Good job!

Folks who moved from PTS/BTC to AGS today more than doubled their stake in BitShares and subsequent DACs. 
I wonder how long that deal will hold up...

"...And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one"

PTS is more valuable for sure, cause you can buy and sell at any time. AGS will not be close to PTS's value until really exciting DAC comes out. Right?

PTS is more likely to get you a cut of 3rd party DACs and is more liquid.   So I would consider PTS the investment choice for those on the fence, and AGS for those who are committed.

Daniel, what is the estimated amount of ProtoShares when 2M of AGS is compelety allocated in 200 days?

If BitShares doesn't get released in 150ish days, 1 PTS will weight more than 1 AGS when getting BTS.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: bytemaster on January 02, 2014, 05:09:00 pm
It is hard to say based upon difficulty changes in PTS... I would estimate 1.5M but could be off by over 100K in either direction.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: 5chdn on January 02, 2014, 06:08:17 pm
where is this exchange numbers coming from? where AGS/PTS is 2.XX

I parsed to blockchain, see https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1853.0
Or try out my bot in #protoshares on freenode!
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: 520Bit on January 03, 2014, 03:18:26 am
Is this information accurate: http://angelshares.info/beta/

It does not seem consistent with the results in the first post here, or am I missing something?

I don't think it is accurate so far, it is still a beta version. Be patient to see the hard work.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: RejectKid on January 03, 2014, 02:49:24 pm
where is this exchange numbers coming from? where AGS/PTS is 2.XX

I parsed to blockchain, see https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1853.0
Or try out my bot in #protoshares on freenode!

Oh thanks.  In my head I was thinking like a true exchange site or people selling via escrow.  I understand how you got this now though

"doh" on me
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: Empirical1 on January 03, 2014, 06:04:26 pm
Could someone update the daily statistics in this or another thread?
I know there are links you can click on, but it would be nice if a daily update was available on this website

Day 1:

Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

Day 2:

etc.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: 5chdn on January 03, 2014, 06:40:09 pm
Could someone update the daily statistics in this or another thread?

I will keep the OP updated.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: Empirical1 on January 03, 2014, 06:45:08 pm
Could someone update the daily statistics in this or another thread?

I will keep the OP updated.

Cool, thanks  :)
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares daily statistics (updated)
Post by: 5chdn on January 04, 2014, 09:50:09 am
01/03/2014: 93,642.06 USD
Angleshares value in PTS: 1.866 AGS/PTS = 10.20 USD. Total donations today: 2,679.743 PTS = 51,022.31 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 94.800 AGS/BTC = 8.52 USD. Total donations today: 52.742 BTC = 42,619.76 USD.

Total: 288,717.88 USD
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares daily statistics (updated)
Post by: 5chdn on January 05, 2014, 12:28:24 am
01/04/2014: 109,428.57 USD
Angleshares value in PTS: 1.865 AGS/PTS = 10.33 USD. Total donations today: 2,681.503 PTS = 51,672.56 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 72.247 AGS/BTC = 11.55 USD. Total donations today: 69.207 BTC = 57,756.01 USD.

Total: 398,146.45 USD
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: hammerbrain on January 07, 2014, 07:11:57 pm
Could someone update the daily statistics in this or another thread?
I know there are links you can click on, but it would be nice if a daily update was available on this website

Day 1:

Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

Day 2:

etc.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: 5chdn on January 07, 2014, 07:21:11 pm
Could someone update the daily statistics in this or another thread?
I know there are links you can click on, but it would be nice if a daily update was available on this website

Day 1:

Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

Day 2:

etc.

Use http://www1.agsexplorer.com/
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares day 1 statistics.
Post by: sumantso on January 07, 2014, 07:30:25 pm
Could someone update the daily statistics in this or another thread?
I know there are links you can click on, but it would be nice if a daily update was available on this website

Day 1:

Angleshares value in PTS: 2.133 AGS/PTS = 9.50 USD. Total donations today: 2,343.996 PTS = 47,770.64 USD.
Angleshares value in BTC: 80.825 AGS/BTC = 9.28 USD. Total donations today: 61.862 BTC = 46,693.44 USD.

Day 2:

etc.

Use http://www1.agsexplorer.com/

Looks like the BTC part is frozen. It is showing <40 BTC while I think amount donated today is above 50 BTC.
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares daily statistics (updated)
Post by: euzora on January 07, 2014, 08:22:10 pm
are angelshares divisible? as in, could I get half of one?
Title: Re: [AGS] Angelshares daily statistics (updated)
Post by: oco101 on January 07, 2014, 08:23:53 pm
are angelshares divisible? as in, could I get half of one?

Yes