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Title: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 06:44:50 am
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prima.com registered by buycoin (pending 23 blocks)    12 seconds ago
panasonic.com registered by buycoin (pending 13 blocks)    42 seconds ago
bts-keewee claimed a balance of 5,549.87800 BTS from balance ID #36132 (pending 12 blocks)    1 minute ago
xing.com registered by buycoin     1 minute ago
philips.com registered by buycoin     4 minutes ago
canon.com registered by buycoin     5 minutes ago
intel.com registered by buycoin     6 minutes ago
nokia.com registered by buycoin     6 minutes ago
dell.com registered by buycoin     7 minutes ago
maya.com registered by buycoin     8 minutes ago
usd.btsjohn registered by btsjohn     8 minutes ago
panda.com registered by buycoin     8 minutes ago
ibm.com registered by buycoin     9 minutes ago
buckfankers sent 100 BTS to dysfunctional-cracker     9 minutes ago
yahoo.com registered by buycoin     15 minutes ago
Was issued 4,000,000 TIPSHARES by tuckfheman     16 minutes ago
momo.com registered by buycoin     16 minutes ago
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skype.com registered by buycoin     17 minutes ago
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Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 06:46:35 am
only cost   0.15039 BTS
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: fav on October 14, 2015, 07:02:34 am
oh, that's nice. got bitcoin.com and org :D
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 07:09:57 am
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/buycoin/overview

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/shadow/overview
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: fav on October 14, 2015, 07:13:09 am
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/buycoin/overview

just names you know? they won't work as domains in the future
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 07:15:34 am
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/buycoin/overview

just names you know? they won't work as domains in the future

dns(keyid) will reborn?
how the gateway  use id?domains?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 08:50:41 am
I'm not sure if things go as intended with this massive name registration action going on right now.

It's been decided that "Names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free"
https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/

This means all major domain names like "facebook.com" cost just BTS 0.15 because they don't qualify as premium.
Is this what was intended?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 09:01:28 am
Also, if I recall it correctly BM once mentioned that having thousands of fake account names would put a lot of burden on hosted wallet providers in terms of RAM usage.
And that's what's happening right now - someone is buying thousands of names paying almost nothing for them while CNX is asleep.

Is @fav right to ignore this issue?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 09:21:47 am
Even if just names and not real domains they could be used later for scam.

I'm very disappointed such thing can happen. This looks to be very amateurish for something aimed to become a major financial protocol.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: inarizushi on October 14, 2015, 10:15:38 am
Yeah... clearly a 20 something BTS for account registration would have been nice.. Could we vote for it easily ?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: svk on October 14, 2015, 10:23:37 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 10:31:08 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.

@svk, it's highly unprofessional to call them "retards" and "idiots". They do it because they seek a business opportunity and only time will tell  if that makes sense.

If someone is an idiot it's us that we let it happen by setting the fess so low.

I think BM's startegy (https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/) assuming that
Quote
names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free
is fundamentally flawed.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: Akado on October 14, 2015, 10:33:51 am
If it was a mistake. they probably forgot the domain part. maybe they just thought that a "facebook" account would be valuable while a "facebook.com" wouldn't.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: svk on October 14, 2015, 10:37:09 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.

@svk, it's highly unprofessional to call them "retards" and "idiots". They do it because they seek a business opportunity and only time will tell  if that makes sense.

If someone is an idiot it's us that we let it happen by setting the fess so low.

I think BM's startegy (https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/) assuming that
Quote
names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free
is fundamentally flawed.

I disagree, the guy's an idiot, in the same way patent trolls are idiots. Even worse because the chances of someone ever paying him anything for these accounts are so remote that he's probably better off playing the lottery..
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 10:38:33 am
How long was beta test. I'm suprised such a ridiculous flaw appears right now. Do you really want to compete with ETH ? You should ask for a security audit if you want serious investors to put money in.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 10:40:06 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.

@svk, it's highly unprofessional to call them "retards" and "idiots". They do it because they seek a business opportunity and only time will tell  if that makes sense.

If someone is an idiot it's us that we let it happen by setting the fess so low.

I think BM's startegy (https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/) assuming that
Quote
names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free
is fundamentally flawed.

I disagree, the guy's an idiot, in the same way patent trolls are idiots. Even worse because the chances of someone ever paying him anything for these accounts are so remote that he's probably better off playing the lottery..

So you should design a coin for Disney World.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 10:41:54 am
Can we do anything to stop it before BM wakes up?
It might be urgent if this is going to affect the RAM usage of hosted wallet providers.

If we are just losing potential fees - that's just plain stupid of us but we'll get over it.
If we are creating a technical barrier for hosted wallet providers by letting this continue - that's dangerous for the whole BitShares business.

But maybe I'm unnecessarily panicking - I'm not technical enough to make this judgement.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 10:44:17 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.

@svk, it's highly unprofessional to call them "retards" and "idiots". They do it because they seek a business opportunity and only time will tell  if that makes sense.

If someone is an idiot it's us that we let it happen by setting the fess so low.

I think BM's startegy (https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/) assuming that
Quote
names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free
is fundamentally flawed.

I disagree, the guy's an idiot, in the same way patent trolls are idiots. Even worse because the chances of someone ever paying him anything for these accounts are so remote that he's probably better off playing the lottery..

Even if this guy is an idiot, we are even bigger idiots by not making money on this.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: svk on October 14, 2015, 10:45:15 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.

@svk, it's highly unprofessional to call them "retards" and "idiots". They do it because they seek a business opportunity and only time will tell  if that makes sense.

If someone is an idiot it's us that we let it happen by setting the fess so low.

I think BM's startegy (https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/) assuming that
Quote
names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free
is fundamentally flawed.

I disagree, the guy's an idiot, in the same way patent trolls are idiots. Even worse because the chances of someone ever paying him anything for these accounts are so remote that he's probably better off playing the lottery..

Even if this guy is an idiot, we are even bigger idiots by not making money on this.

Yea I agree the fee should be higher.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 10:47:26 am
We should ask ETH fanboys to all register as many name as they can. This will destroy this coin (and my investment) so easily.

How many BTS for 10 millions names ?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: mindphlux on October 14, 2015, 10:54:38 am
This can be changed with a shareholder vote. We should do it right now.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 11:07:41 am
This can be changed with a shareholder vote. We should do it right now.

Don't we need the committee members to apply such a change?
Right now the committee consists entirely of the init nodes being under BM's control I guess.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 11:09:46 am
I propose to delete accounts with less than 100 BTS one week after they are created if no transaction ever occured or no transaction for a year, and of course to higher creation cost.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: mindphlux on October 14, 2015, 11:17:43 am
This can be changed with a shareholder vote. We should do it right now.

Don't we need the committee members to apply such a change?
Right now the committee consists entirely of the init nodes being under BM's control I guess.

That's what I mean. he needs to do a proposal, and we need to vote for it.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 11:19:02 am
I mean :

Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and no transaction ever occured, one week (to be adjusted) after creation are deleted.
Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and one year (to be adjusted) without transaction are deleted (even if transaction occured one year ago).
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: Empirical1.2 on October 14, 2015, 11:20:20 am
Yea looks like we have another retard spamming the blockchain, probably same guy as last time.

I'm surprised the account registration fee is so low tbh, it's probably the cheapest transaction we have. It makes sense in a way because faucet's won't require enormous amounts of funds to register users, but it does leave the door open for idiot spammers like this kdj.

@svk, it's highly unprofessional to call them "retards" and "idiots". They do it because they seek a business opportunity and only time will tell  if that makes sense.

If someone is an idiot it's us that we let it happen by setting the fess so low.

I think BM's startegy (https://bitshares.org/technology/transferable-named-accounts/) assuming that
Quote
names that contain a number, are longer than 8 characters, or contain no vowels are essentially free
is fundamentally flawed.

I disagree, the guy's an idiot, in the same way patent trolls are idiots. Even worse because the chances of someone ever paying him anything for these accounts are so remote that he's probably better off playing the lottery..

Even if this guy is an idiot, we are even bigger idiots by not making money on this.

Exactly.  As usual. This is all so predictable.


I made lots of posts in the past saying they should increase the basic registration fee to avoid this, obviously with the names being sell-able now, even more so.

My advice now with any premium names is to make sure you rather start out too high than too low if you're going with a fixed pricing system.

Just so it's in the record, another trend I predicted which was scoffed at, is that we'll the see the .com extension becoming the most popular BTS variant of premium names. It will be interesting to see in a year or two if that ends up being the case.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 11:29:10 am
This can be changed with a shareholder vote. We should do it right now.

Don't we need the committee members to apply such a change?
Right now the committee consists entirely of the init nodes being under BM's control I guess.

That's what I mean. he needs to do a proposal, and we need to vote for it.

Agreed. It was a mistake not to have 24h access to the committee members right after the migration so that we could react immediately.
Maybe this incident will not hurt us so much but it could've been something much more serious and right now our "contingency plan" seems to boil down to waiting for BM to wake up.

Not very professional for a USD 15 mln business. Another lesson learned I guess.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 11:37:22 am
I mean :

Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and no transaction ever occured, one week (to be adjusted) after creation are deleted.
Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and one year (to be adjusted) without transaction are deleted (even if transaction occured one year ago).

We should not change the rules retroactively. It'd hurt us even more.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 11:46:41 am
I mean :

Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and no transaction ever occured, one week (to be adjusted) after creation are deleted.
Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and one year (to be adjusted) without transaction are deleted (even if transaction occured one year ago).

We should not change the rules retroactively. It'd hurt us even more.

According to Cryptomonex, 1 million accounts need 1 GB of RAM (and 150000 BTS for creation).

Imagine I'm a big competitor coin holder and I want to kill BTS. I could create 200 millions accounts for 30 millions BTS (150000 $). Is this a threat of not ? It is a true question, because I don't know the answer.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: mindphlux on October 14, 2015, 12:18:18 pm
Change the newly created account fee to 20 BTS, and this issue should be solved.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: xeroc on October 14, 2015, 12:23:16 pm
1) register a new committee member that has this fees increased
2) get it voted to active
3) have more committee members voted active that also vote for higher fees
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 12:26:46 pm
Change the newly created account fee to 20 BTS, and this issue should be solved.

Really ?

Imagine BTS start to be commercially used and this is occuring ? Do you mean that the delegates are able now to face this ? Or more likely they have to shutdown all servers and upgrade them with 248 GB RAM ? In this case how long will the network be off ? What would think our partners ?

In my opinion, upgrade the servers now to 248 GB and this issue should be solved. If an attacker wants to burn 1 milliion dollar to kill BTS credibility, you need 1TB RAM now. 1 million dollar is relatively low (5000 BTC) to kill a promising coin aimed to be number 1.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: inarizushi on October 14, 2015, 12:33:54 pm
I mean :

Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and no transaction ever occured, one week (to be adjusted) after creation are deleted.
Every account with less than 100 BTS (to be adjusted) and one year (to be adjusted) without transaction are deleted (even if transaction occured one year ago).

We should not change the rules retroactively. It'd hurt us even more.

According to Cryptomonex, 1 million accounts need 1 GB of RAM (and 150000 BTS for creation).

Imagine I'm a big competitor coin holder and I want to kill BTS. I could create 200 millions accounts for 30 millions BTS (150000 $). Is this a threat of not ? It is a true question, because I don't know the answer.

If we put the account creation fee at a higher level the problem is solved, and shareholder approval is all we need for that. Nobody can kill BTS in such a trivial way, you don't seem to grasp how much some people here are invested in BTS and will never let it die so stupidly, this isn't a stupid clone altcoin. At worse, there are no obstacle to hardfork the solution you propose, but it would be very bad PR... which we're used to now. Don't panick.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: mindphlux on October 14, 2015, 12:35:58 pm
I will prepare a seperate committee proposal to change the account creation fee to 20 BTS, and create a commitee account this evening.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: brads on October 14, 2015, 12:41:08 pm
I'm not panicking I'm just thinking.

And what about an attacker from inside, I mean something able to get back creation cost ? Let's imagine a delegate being compromised. Then the attacker just have to create accounts from the delegate, so the fees return to him and the attack cost less (80% ?) ?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 04:16:19 pm
The name squatting continues.
@bytemaster, aren't we going to prevent it by raising the fees?

The current pricing policy doesn't make sense to me: we are charging BTS 20 for transferring funds but just BTS 0.15 for irrevocably polluting the blockchain with thousands of fake accounts.
Won't it affect the RAM usage of hosted wallet providers?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:28:37 pm
spam is going

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Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:29:46 pm
why not keep   www.*.com  *.com etc……
sale   bid  to support fee pool?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:34:11 pm
Fee Allocation
Network   20%
Lifetime Referrer   (buycoin)   30%
Registrar   (buycoin)   0%
Affiliate Referrer   (buycoin)   50%

just only cost 20% fees
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: liondani on October 14, 2015, 04:39:04 pm
why not keep   www.*.com  *.com etc……
sale   bid  to support fee pool?

 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:43:03 pm
0.14746 BTS per time reg account
the guy hate bts can spam the network easily

why testnet not notice this?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: fav on October 14, 2015, 04:43:23 pm
it makes 0 sense to register those accounts in my opinion, but whatever.

the register fee for any non premium account should be at least 100 BTS in my opinion.

edit: and excluded from life time cashback. names are not meant to be spammed
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:44:39 pm
bts 0.x  you have  a  then others can't reg  b.a
bts 2.x   you have a   others  can reg    *.a      a.*     OMG
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:47:17 pm
trans action  network load   20bts   for prevent spam  attack   
reg name   network load just  0.14746bts
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:49:12 pm
the attacker can wrote script to register  many  fake id
very low cost
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: Tuck Fheman on October 14, 2015, 04:51:01 pm
I disagree, the guy's an idiot, in the same way patent trolls are idiots. Even worse because the chances of someone ever paying him anything for these accounts are so remote that he's probably better off playing the lottery..

 +5%
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 14, 2015, 04:54:41 pm
is there  any  dev member online?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: mindphlux on October 14, 2015, 04:57:03 pm
Bytemaster is on it.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: Empirical1.2 on October 14, 2015, 05:02:17 pm
it makes 0 sense to register those accounts in my opinion, but whatever.

It makes a lot of sense imo. When BTS becomes a popular form of payment, most businesses would ideally want their payment address to be either 'CompanyName' or 'CompanyName'.com. 

Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: jakub on October 14, 2015, 05:11:13 pm
it makes 0 sense to register those accounts in my opinion, but whatever.

Really?

Quote
fav.com registered by fav (pending 9 blocks)
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: mint chocolate chip on October 14, 2015, 05:13:21 pm
it makes 0 sense to register those accounts in my opinion, but whatever.

Really?

Quote
fav.com registered by fav (pending 9 blocks)
that is funny
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: fav on October 14, 2015, 05:17:59 pm
it makes 0 sense to register those accounts in my opinion, but whatever.

Really?

Quote
fav.com registered by fav (pending 9 blocks)
that is funny

to verify something.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: tonyk on October 14, 2015, 05:29:01 pm
it makes 0 sense to register those accounts in my opinion, but whatever.

Really?

Quote
fav.com registered by fav (pending 9 blocks)
that is funny

to verify something.
to verify what?
 Tha the  name.com is not cheaper if you own the name already.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 14, 2015, 09:17:43 pm
The fee is now 5.1 BTS
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: hadrian on October 14, 2015, 10:12:46 pm
OK. I'm wondering what the damage is in terms of resources and also the number of names scooped up.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: Overthetop on October 15, 2015, 01:17:08 am
The fee is now 5.1 BTS
That is good.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: xeroc on October 15, 2015, 02:18:50 am
bts 0.x  you have  a  then others can't reg  b.a
bts 2.x   you have a   others  can reg    *.a      a.*     OMG
why dont you guys read the migration guide??

Ther is NO hierarchy in names any more .. hency anyone can register any arbitrary name .. just like mail
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: xeroc on October 15, 2015, 02:22:41 am
The fee is now 5.1 BTS

So all accounts purchased for 0.15 BTS can now be sold for less than the current minimum price for up to a 30x profit! and that's assuming that the name sells for just under the lowest purchase price.  In other words, if the name is cool enough to sell at a premium, then the profit would be greater than 30x

Not bad for a 1 day gain. It just might take some time selling and transferring the accounts.
Not true afaik .. account_updates (transfers) are different from account_create ..

Could cost 1m BTS if committee wanted/shareholder approved it
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: well.attenuated on October 15, 2015, 02:39:54 am
Can standard users pay this fee and register new accounts from the CLI or do you still need to be a lifetime member to register an account from the CLI?
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: ffwong on October 15, 2015, 03:27:27 am
Sorry for diverting the topic. But I really want to know how to register an account using cli_wallet
User guide says:
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register_account alpha GPH4zSJHx7D84T1j6HQ7keXWdtabBBWJxvfJw72XmEyqmgdoo1njF GPH4zSJHx7D84T1j6HQ7keXWdtabBBWJxvfJw72XmEyqmgdoo1njF nathan nathan 0 true

But what exactly is GPH4zSJHx7D84T1j6HQ7keXWdtabBBWJxvfJw72XmEyqmgdoo1njF? Is it the public key of nathan or alpha? Where can I get the public key in the CLI interface?

Thanks.
Title: Re: cheap register&high trans fee ***.com is taken
Post by: sudo on October 15, 2015, 04:36:49 am
register fee  5.14941 BTS
but can get 80% back 
so  1.xbts  one id  still cheap