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Other => Graveyard => Muse/SoundDAC => Topic started by: cob on October 22, 2015, 08:32:46 pm

Title: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: cob on October 22, 2015, 08:32:46 pm
Very basic place to point people to.

www.MUSEblockchain.com

Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Pheonike on October 22, 2015, 08:41:27 pm

Who designed that site? The graphics remind me of eighties arcade games. Where is the quarter slot for this site?
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: jaran on October 22, 2015, 08:59:08 pm

Who designed that site? The graphics remind me of eighties arcade games. Where is the quarter slot for this site?
+5%

Yes now just add a game with the Peertracks icon eating all the artistcoins and we are good to go...hahaha
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: pendragon3 on October 23, 2015, 02:01:15 am
There is lots of good info on the website.  +5% Quite exciting!
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: zhoushu121 on October 23, 2015, 02:39:45 am
MUSE is a Membership Organisation where its members are comprised of anyone and everyone that chooses to hold MUSE Core Units. The Blockchain itself is made up of 2 Billion Core Units, 1.5 Billion of which are in the hands of a global community of users and the 500 million remaining are in the Blockchain’s reserve fund.



fuck cob
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Troglodactyl on October 23, 2015, 02:43:41 am
Very basic place to point people to.

www.MUSEblockchain.com

Nice.  Do you want typos/edit requests sent anywhere in particular?  Is this site on github somewhere?
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: donkeypong on October 23, 2015, 02:46:26 am

the other cool part is how members get to vote on what to do with the 500,000,000 MUSE reserve fund that the DAC starts out with (in the unbreakable blockchain bank)


Give the developers a bonus and then...

(https://thinkingbinary.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/e-grizzly-and-the-joker-burning-money.jpg)
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Tuck Fheman on October 23, 2015, 02:52:37 am
One of these comments is not like the others. Can you guess which one?
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: wallace on October 23, 2015, 03:11:07 am
MUSE is a Membership Organisation where its members are comprised of anyone and everyone that chooses to hold MUSE Core Units. The Blockchain itself is made up of 2 Billion Core Units, 1.5 Billion of which are in the hands of a global community of users and the 500 million remaining are in the Blockchain’s reserve fund.


It's a shame...
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Felix on October 23, 2015, 03:15:51 am
MUSE is a Membership Organisation where its members are comprised of anyone and everyone that chooses to hold MUSE Core Units. The Blockchain itself is made up of 2 Billion Core Units, 1.5 Billion of which are in the hands of a global community of users and the 500 million remaining are in the Blockchain’s reserve fund.



fuck cob
+5% +5% +5%
Any volume change on MUSE Core Units should have been informed before the note IPO. Otherwise,it's the rogue behavior!
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: woolcii on October 23, 2015, 04:27:17 am
2 Billion ????
fuck cob
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: jaran on October 23, 2015, 04:31:20 am
@Cob stated in this post that the supply could change if the shareholders VOTE on it.  https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,9387.msg121713.html#msg121713

I am pretty sure whats going on is...due to the changes in bitshares 2 they have to set the max possible supply, and thus shareholders could VOTE to dilute up to an additional 500 million.  which means the max possible supply is 2 billion.

Its not a given that shareholders will dilute...and he stated before the crowdfund that dilution was possible

Please correct me if im wrong
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: clayop on October 23, 2015, 04:43:05 am
It's the same as BTS 2.0 system. BTS 2.0.has 3.7 billion max supply but only circulate 2.5 billion. Total initial supply of MUSE will be 1.5 billion I believe.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Musewhale on October 23, 2015, 04:44:22 am
Why increase the supply of five hundred million?
This is not fair to IPOer.
I think this is a tragedy
 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: clayop on October 23, 2015, 04:57:45 am
Why increase the supply of five hundred million?
This is not fair to IPOer.
I think this is a tragedy
 :-X :-X :-X
In reserved fund, as like bts 2.0. So it does not increase supply actually
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: tonyk on October 23, 2015, 04:59:41 am
It's the same as BTS 2.0 system. BTS 2.0.has 3.7 billion max supply but only circulate 2.5 billion. Total initial supply of MUSE will be 1.5 billion I believe.

clayop - what is aMUSEing ?
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: btswildpig on October 23, 2015, 06:19:43 am
Why increase the supply of five hundred million?
This is not fair to IPOer.
I think this is a tragedy
 :-X :-X :-X
In reserved fund, as like bts 2.0. So it does not increase supply actually

BTS paid dearly for increasing the supply and thus the structure in BTS2.0  .

Now I assume Muse wants to do the same as BTS2.0 but not expecting to pay the same price ?  Hence the silent tips of the supply change ?

Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Frodo on October 23, 2015, 06:27:36 am
I really don't understand why so many people are upset about this. If you don't trust shareholders to responsibly spend or burn funds what reason do you have to buy into this selfgoverning chain anyways? Even without reserve fund there would be enough opportunities for stakeholders to f*** up.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: xeroc on October 23, 2015, 06:54:32 am
I really don't understand why so many people are upset about this. If you don't trust shareholders to responsibly spend or burn funds what reason do you have to buy into this selfgoverning chain anyways? Even without reserve fund there would be enough opportunities for stakeholders to f*** up.
It's the whole merger discussion again.
Ask yourself this: Do you want a DAC that can fund its own development or not?

People complaining about the reserve fund either haven't understood what that fund is or don't see that it is needed for a DAC to grow in its initial phase ..
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Pheonike on October 23, 2015, 07:01:51 am

Let them leave, less competition for the available tokens.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: cob on October 23, 2015, 02:10:31 pm
A little history and perspective to the rescue!

Invictus Innovations said anyone could use their tech as long as they sharedropped 10% to PTS holders and 10% to AGS holders. Leaving 80% of the chain to PeerTracks.
PeerTracks inc. would allocate that 80% as they saw fit, x% to pre-sale of Notes, y% to this, z% to that.

If you recall, that was the original proposal, which got shot down quite quickly.


We replaced that "centralized beginning model" with something that harnesses the power of DPOS and we all agreed it was much fairer:
Just 10% to PeerTracks but allow dilution, which would be in the control of ALL stakeholders, not just PeerTracks.

This made everyone happy since, it removed centralization, and put the funding and development into the hands of everyone instead of just one corporation (PeerTracks). It also did not guarantee there would ever even be a need to dilute, unlike the original proposal.

So until Graphene there were 1.5 billion MUSE Core Units with infinite stakeholder-approved dilution.

The only thing that changed with Graphene is that we have put a CAP on dilution to a nice round number 500 million, making TOTAL possible MUSE Core Units to be 2 billion.

So what we basically did is go from infinite possible dilution to a hard coded max possible dilution of 25%. Your welcome.

And once again, don't like the reserve fund? Vote to burn it all!


So to clarify!

The 500 million Reserve Fund is not in the hands of PeerTracks inc.
It's in the hand of the stake holders. It's the MUSE blockchain's own reserves.

The PeerTracks Stake is 10% of the original 1.5 Billion. Some 150 Million Shares NOT the 500 million reserve fund that might never even see the light of day before workers burn it all haha.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: cob on October 23, 2015, 02:16:09 pm
Very basic place to point people to.

www.MUSEblockchain.com

Nice.  Do you want typos/edit requests sent anywhere in particular?  Is this site on github somewhere?

PM me the typos please.
Site not on Github yet.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Marky0001 on October 23, 2015, 03:25:39 pm
3 days to go.... :)
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: donkeypong on October 23, 2015, 03:31:55 pm
Those of you criticizing Cob don't seem to remember that 500M was part of the allocation. You know, if Kanye or Apple want in, then you give them a cut.

But that doesn't mean we can't burn it if everyone votes to do so. 
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: betax on October 23, 2015, 03:48:54 pm
A little history and perspective to the rescue!

Invictus Innovations said anyone could use their tech as long as they sharedropped 10% to PTS holders and 10% to AGS holders. Leaving 80% of the chain to PeerTracks.
PeerTracks inc. would allocate that 80% as they saw fit, x% to pre-sale of Notes, y% to this, z% to that.

If you recall, that was the original proposal, which got shot down quite quickly.


We replaced that "centralized beginning model" with something that harnesses the power of DPOS and we all agreed it was much fairer:
Just 10% to PeerTracks but allow dilution, which would be in the control of ALL stakeholders, not just PeerTracks.

This made everyone happy since, it removed centralization, and put the funding and development into the hands of everyone instead of just one corporation (PeerTracks). It also did not guarantee there would ever even be a need to dilute, unlike the original proposal.

So until Graphene there were 1.5 billion MUSE Core Units with infinite stakeholder-approved dilution.

The only thing that changed with Graphene is that we have put a CAP on dilution to a nice round number 500 million, making TOTAL possible MUSE Core Units to be 2 billion.

So what we basically did is go from infinite possible dilution to a hard coded max possible dilution of 25%. Your welcome.

And once again, don't like the reserve fund? Vote to burn it all!


So to clarify!

The 500 million Reserve Fund is not in the hands of PeerTracks inc.
It's in the hand of the stake holders. It's the MUSE blockchain's own reserves.

The PeerTracks Stake is 10% of the original 1.5 Billion. Some 150 Million Shares NOT the 500 million reserve fund that might never even see the light of day before workers burn it all haha.

+5% excellent.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Marky0001 on October 23, 2015, 04:55:06 pm
Thanks cob... So far you kept everything easy and logical and always replied to criticism...



Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Erlich Bachman on October 23, 2015, 06:15:59 pm
you ask permission "of" anyone not "to" anyone down in the black text on white background section  with the pillars
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Akado on October 23, 2015, 06:26:37 pm
Yeah I dont see the problem with this, if everyone rejects the idea of having +500M like they reject the concept of dilution all they have to do is vote no. Those 500M will not circulate against the will of the shareholders, so what's the problem here? lol

Shareholders angry because they don't want a dilution only themselves can cause. #cryptosceneslogic
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: giant middle finger on October 23, 2015, 11:10:11 pm

don't like the reserve fund? Vote to burn it all

fuck you cob!

i vote to spend the dev fund on hookers and blow for MUSE holders!


Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: donkeypong on October 24, 2015, 01:09:18 am

don't like the reserve fund? Vote to burn it all

fuck you cob!


You must not have read the last half of this thread. No more foul language is needed. But you still have your fingers if you need them for gestures.  ;)
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: muse-umum on October 24, 2015, 03:12:19 am
Good idea. I like it. Just do it!

Well done Cob, you finally get the secret weapon from bytemaster.

Inflation and dilution is the only way of taking muse to success. I sold most of my notes at the price of around 0.02~0.008 CNY each , now I think I can buy them back at 0.001 CNY. The great profit really excites me!

Love you, Cob. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: twitter on October 24, 2015, 04:35:33 am
sounds good Cob. you have been very kind/generous to BTS community.  +5%
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: cube on October 24, 2015, 05:18:35 am
A little history and perspective to the rescue!

Invictus Innovations said anyone could use their tech as long as they sharedropped 10% to PTS holders and 10% to AGS holders. Leaving 80% of the chain to PeerTracks.
PeerTracks inc. would allocate that 80% as they saw fit, x% to pre-sale of Notes, y% to this, z% to that.

If you recall, that was the original proposal, which got shot down quite quickly.


We replaced that "centralized beginning model" with something that harnesses the power of DPOS and we all agreed it was much fairer:
Just 10% to PeerTracks but allow dilution, which would be in the control of ALL stakeholders, not just PeerTracks.

This made everyone happy since, it removed centralization, and put the funding and development into the hands of everyone instead of just one corporation (PeerTracks). It also did not guarantee there would ever even be a need to dilute, unlike the original proposal.

So until Graphene there were 1.5 billion MUSE Core Units with infinite stakeholder-approved dilution.

The only thing that changed with Graphene is that we have put a CAP on dilution to a nice round number 500 million, making TOTAL possible MUSE Core Units to be 2 billion.

So what we basically did is go from infinite possible dilution to a hard coded max possible dilution of 25%. Your welcome.

And once again, don't like the reserve fund? Vote to burn it all!


So to clarify!

The 500 million Reserve Fund is not in the hands of PeerTracks inc.
It's in the hand of the stake holders. It's the MUSE blockchain's own reserves.

The PeerTracks Stake is 10% of the original 1.5 Billion. Some 150 Million Shares NOT the 500 million reserve fund that might never even see the light of day before workers burn it all haha.

Thank you cob.  You have always been transparent and responsive to the concerns of the minority shareholders.   +5%
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Marky0001 on October 24, 2015, 05:18:18 pm
can you PLEASE change the logo?

The webpage looks horrible :(
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: testz on October 24, 2015, 06:36:43 pm
can you PLEASE change the logo?

The webpage looks horrible :(

 +5% web site looks too heavy  :(
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: lzr1900 on October 24, 2015, 10:57:08 pm
ugly website
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: ghost_of_the_internet on October 24, 2015, 11:18:45 pm
Can I vote to use some of this 500 million to redo the website?
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Tuck Fheman on October 25, 2015, 04:29:25 pm
i vote to spend the dev fund on hookers and blow for MUSE holders!

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7zs8eH1fv1rtef2wo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: liondani on October 26, 2015, 04:05:53 am
ugly website


(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbathroomreader.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2FGolden_Raspberry_Award_rev.jpg&sp=217dfa257170d94081dfd6368245b58a)
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Empirical1.2 on October 28, 2015, 03:22:10 pm
Are they purchasable on CCEDK? What are they listed as?
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: donkeypong on October 28, 2015, 06:04:28 pm
CCEDK is where I heard they would be. But I've looked and haven't yet seen any MUSE on there.
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: cob on October 29, 2015, 04:00:49 am
Changes coming soon.

And yeah, we can always turn it over to the community. Workers are one thing that make Graphene awesome afterall
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: Erlich Bachman on January 13, 2016, 09:49:14 am
you ask permission "of" anyone not "to" anyone down in the black text on white background section  with the pillars

its still there, in the "sturdy foundation section"
Title: Re: MUSE blockchain information site
Post by: btswolf on January 25, 2016, 06:35:08 pm
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jikol | Sunday, Jan. 24th | View on www.cointelegraph.com
lol if there was a working software to jump on... the webpage is a joke and people will be laughing when they try to join peertracks

Sad, but I guess that`s the average impression of potential investors.