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Title: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: bytemaster on October 28, 2015, 10:07:52 pm
I am looking for any and all protocols that do not have a core token.  Any help doing this research would be appreciated.

So far I have Hyperledger and Interledger and perhaps Tao chain.
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: fuzzy on October 28, 2015, 10:16:48 pm
Wow...sounds like one hell of a brownie quest candidate to me...

What if you award everyone with 50-100 brownies for each unique (and unlisted at the time of posting) tech that this would work well with?
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: speedy on October 28, 2015, 10:34:52 pm
BitMessage - p2p messaging network that stores a few days worth of messages in a "blockchain" (term used very loosely here). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmessage

Twister - p2p version of Twitter. Registers names on a blockchain like Namecoin, but names are registered by proof of work not paying a fee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twister_(software)

Mr Marmot's blockchain I think is tokenless: https://erisindustries.com/
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: Akado on October 28, 2015, 10:44:24 pm
ADEPT from IBM seems not to use any token.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/ibm-developing-blockchain-without-bitcoin-for-record-keeping-and-smart-contracts-1442597079
use-case pdf http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=XB&infotype=PM&htmlfid=GBE03666USEN&attachment=GBE03666USEN.PDF#loaded
Live demo: https://www.theprotocol.tv/adept-demo-ibm-samsung/
Apparently this is the whitepaper: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/gb/en/gbe03620usen/GBE03620USEN.PDF

Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: jbutta2k13 on October 28, 2015, 11:37:51 pm
I think the most interesting thing to understand is why did they pick ether over other systems like bitshares.
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: fuzzy on October 29, 2015, 12:01:51 am
I think the most interesting thing to understand is why did they pick ether over other systems like bitshares.

Ether the new Unix?
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: hadrian on October 29, 2015, 12:03:45 am
Open Transactions (http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page) perhaps would be of interest to you? Not very 'blockchainy', but I don't know how tightly you want us to fit in with your stated requirements...
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: Riverhead on October 29, 2015, 01:07:26 am

http://www.skuchain.com/

Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: pollux on October 29, 2015, 01:28:45 am
Hyperledger is just marketing on top of the PBFT algorithm. Not novel in terms of consensus systems.
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: santaclause102 on October 29, 2015, 02:53:17 pm
I am looking for any and all protocols that do not have a core token.  Any help doing this research would be appreciated.

So far I have Hyperledger and Interledger and perhaps Tao chain.
Here is an overview (page 38): http://www.ofnumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Permissioned-distributed-ledgers.pdf

A more detailed description of the different projects that are part of the oerview: Beginning page 29 of the doc above.

Not mentioned in the overview but has no token as far as I know: http://www.multichain.com/ ;

Projects that may have no token (found nothing about whether tokenless or not)  and are blockchains / distr. ledgers (whereever that boundary is):
chain.com
peernova.com
linq: http://insidebitcoins.com/news/linq-the-new-nasdaq-blockchain-powered-trading-platform/35526
Setl.io

Not directly to your question but possibly helpful too, an article about the value of tokenless blockchains: http://www.multichain.com/blog/2015/07/bitcoin-vs-blockchain-debate/
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: CoinHoarder on October 29, 2015, 03:53:02 pm
http://www.rootstock.io
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: bytemaster on October 29, 2015, 08:28:42 pm
http://www.rootstock.io

This is built on top of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: luckybit on October 30, 2015, 05:38:05 am
Tauchain is supposed to interact with Agoras and Agoras has a token. Although it doesn't require a token to run, having a token seems necessary to provide incentive for humans and machines to evolve the network.
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: fuzzy on October 30, 2015, 01:40:01 pm
Permission to Brownify this topic?

Yes or No?
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: kenCode on October 30, 2015, 01:47:28 pm
I am looking for any and all protocols that do not have a core token.  Any help doing this research would be appreciated.
So far I have Hyperledger and Interledger and perhaps Tao chain.

 
When you say protocol, I think https or wss.
 
However, here is a "blockchain-less" concept if you're interested:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/115508/iota-a-blockchain-less-gasp-token-for-the-internet-of-things
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: kenCode on October 30, 2015, 01:49:25 pm
How about Tox?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_(protocol)

edit: the forum broke this link. try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_(protocol) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_(protocol))
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: bytemaster on October 30, 2015, 02:03:14 pm
I remember there was a concept of a mesh-chain where each account is its own blockchain.   I cannot seem to find a link now... help
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: Troglodactyl on October 30, 2015, 02:36:59 pm
I remember there was a concept of a mesh-chain where each account is its own blockchain.   I cannot seem to find a link now... help
raiblocks.net/

Pretty sure you're talking about RaiBlocks.

https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: cass on October 30, 2015, 02:46:33 pm
CIYAM .. is doing all stuff tokenless AFAIK!
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: Troglodactyl on October 30, 2015, 02:46:49 pm
I remember there was a concept of a mesh-chain where each account is its own blockchain.   I cannot seem to find a link now... help
See also: http://188.138.57.93/tangle.pdf

http://iotatoken.com/

IOTA/Tangle is slightly similar, but it builds a single transaction tree in which transactions are confirmed more quickly when they increase convergence between the most significant branches.  Each transaction references at least 2 existing transactions, similar to TAPOS.
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: monsterer on October 30, 2015, 08:26:09 pm
IOTA/Tangle is slightly similar, but it builds a single transaction tree in which transactions are confirmed more quickly when they increase convergence between the most significant branches.  Each transaction references at least 2 existing transactions, similar to TAPOS.

IOTA has a token. Also, its POW, and not much like TAPOS at all, since TAPOS references a block not a transaction, and is POS not POW :)
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: bytemaster on October 30, 2015, 09:05:31 pm
IOTA/Tangle is slightly similar, but it builds a single transaction tree in which transactions are confirmed more quickly when they increase convergence between the most significant branches.  Each transaction references at least 2 existing transactions, similar to TAPOS.

IOTA has a token. Also, its POW, and not much like TAPOS at all, since TAPOS references a block not a transaction, and is POS not POW :)

I like IOTA for many reasons, it just needs some refinements :)
Title: Re: Looking for All Blockchain Technologies without a Token
Post by: santaclause102 on October 30, 2015, 09:57:55 pm
IOTA/Tangle is slightly similar, but it builds a single transaction tree in which transactions are confirmed more quickly when they increase convergence between the most significant branches.  Each transaction references at least 2 existing transactions, similar to TAPOS.

IOTA has a token. Also, its POW, and not much like TAPOS at all, since TAPOS references a block not a transaction, and is POS not POW :)

I like IOTA for many reasons, it just needs some refinements :)
How does it compare to all the other micro transaction protocols mentioned in this thread?