Millions of Features, Features for Me!
There are far too many opportunities out there and prioritizing new features for BitShares becomes very challenging.
Profit is perhaps the most important means of prioritizing.
So I would like to take some time to outline a plan I am devising for getting features lined up and prioritized based upon the concept of Fee Backed Assets (FBA).
5. Gambling Systems
After you deposit bitcoins into Just Dice you have the option to invest all or part of your balance in the house bank. Just Dice takes 10% of the profit and distributes 90% to the investors in real time, every players losing bet makes your investment go up instantly!
Every players winning bet makes your investment go down but the odds are always in your favour and no one could ever send the house broke because the maximum profit per bet is 0.05% of the house bank.
Never has a feature that allows anybody in the world to put themselves at an advantageous position in a gambling operation been offered. That is normally reserved for those rich and politically connected enough to own a gambling operation or for the investor class with barriers to entry that preclude most of the world’s population.
On average your investment will increase 0.9% as often as the house bank is turned over. For example at the moment the house bank is ฿42,500 so every time that amount is wagered by users the site should make on average 1% profit with 0.9% of that going to investors. The house bank turns over approximately every 14 days on average! I first invested in Just Dice 3 months ago and the investment I made has risen 22.5% since then. So far the site has paid out ฿18,000 to investors.
The only risks are government seizure and shut down and hackers or the site operators disappearing with the money. This is sincerely the best passive investment I have ever found.
If there is a Bitshares Dice system, we'd be keen on developing it.
Will talk with Kuro and hybrid about the possibilities of hacking together a basic system.
Disclosure : We have been in the works for a betting system focused on gamers for months now and are at the verge of launching it.
Regards
If there is a Bitshares Dice system, we'd be keen on developing it.
Will talk with Kuro and hybrid about the possibilities of hacking together a basic system.
Disclosure : We have been in the works for a betting system focused on gamers for months now and are at the verge of launching it.
Regards
+5% Cool
This is one of the projects that can truly show the power of Bitshares and increase the market cap, but am not sure if we'll be able to attract sufficient users overnight. Bitcoin has a much larger user base in comparison with Bitshares so its a quick to access market.
Looking at the 2012 Bitcoin gambling report is probably our best 'bet' :)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/01/22/bitcoin-casinos-release-2012-earnings/
(Bitcoin had a low user base & CAP through 2012 of about $70 million, so not too dissimilar.)
Satoshi dice had nearly 1.8 million BTC worth of volume and BitZino 700 000 BTC, so probably about $30 million dollars turnover. 2.5 million of the 9 million BTC would be about 700 million BTS worth of BitAsset volume & I think there were about 6 million betting transactions. Imagine just a fraction of that.
The most important thing is that a really low house edge, provably fair, funds accounted for on the blockchain option could not only satisfy gambling demand & bootstrap BitAsset use internally, but displace Bitcoin options which have recently been hit by a string of 'ponzi' take the money and runs...
Gambling is what made up half of Bitcoins volume and helped Bootstrap it and it still makes up the major chunk today. So nevermind BTS, it's possible that whoever takes the gambling even takes Bitcoin.
A centralised bitshares dice is trivial to create; you could probably knock a daemon together in a week or so.
Truely decentralised requires a different blockchain and that's what Play is doing I think.
Gambling systems could be huge.
What are our options for provably fair on blockchain rng?
Breaking bets up into rounds and having each bettor submit the hash of a secret, and then once that betting round is done having all parties revel secret could work, but it's clunky.
What other sources of rng can we think of?
PLAY adopts a distributed algorithm for random number generation , leveraging delegates in the
DPOS structure to provide the randomness. PLAY delegates generate private key data and publish
the hash of the key data when a block is published.
In the end the random number employed is generated by a successive multiple (at least 101 or
more) number of key data, so that as long as one delegate is honest and hasn’t leaked his data,。
we can safely assume that no one could know the random number generated in the end, making
the number fair and reliable.
IMO, its best to start centralized, see the viability and market interest, then go for decentralized.
So many crypto-projects scream decentralized from day one, spend thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours in product development and turn up with a product that ends up either being shit or used by nobody.
The lean model guys. Cut the fat!
Millions of Features, Features for Me!
There are far too many opportunities out there and prioritizing new features for BitShares becomes very challenging.
Profit is perhaps the most important means of prioritizing.
So I would like to take some time to outline a plan I am devising for getting features lined up and prioritized based upon the concept of Fee Backed Assets (FBA).
5. Gambling Systems
In terms of profit potential blockchain based dice would the most investable FBA imo.QuoteAfter you deposit bitcoins into Just Dice you have the option to invest all or part of your balance in the house bank. Just Dice takes 10% of the profit and distributes 90% to the investors in real time, every players losing bet makes your investment go up instantly!
Every players winning bet makes your investment go down but the odds are always in your favour and no one could ever send the house broke because the maximum profit per bet is 0.05% of the house bank.
Never has a feature that allows anybody in the world to put themselves at an advantageous position in a gambling operation been offered. That is normally reserved for those rich and politically connected enough to own a gambling operation or for the investor class with barriers to entry that preclude most of the world’s population.
On average your investment will increase 0.9% as often as the house bank is turned over. For example at the moment the house bank is ฿42,500 so every time that amount is wagered by users the site should make on average 1% profit with 0.9% of that going to investors. The house bank turns over approximately every 14 days on average! I first invested in Just Dice 3 months ago and the investment I made has risen 22.5% since then. So far the site has paid out ฿18,000 to investors.
The only risks are government seizure and shut down and hackers or the site operators disappearing with the money. This is sincerely the best passive investment I have ever found.
http://www.bitroll.co/just-dice-a-gambling-investment-revolution/
Unfortunately centralized sites are more prone to closures or hit and runs...
http://www.bitroll.co/just-dice-closes-due-to-canadian-bitcoin-regulations/
JustDice's bankroll was > ฿50,000 (Double the CAP of BTS) & from the above, appeared to be making >$300 000 profit a month.
In terms of profit potential blockchain based dice would the most investable FBA imo.
I would prefer to see cannabis commodities and assets than to see blatant gambling because it only will take away from the legitimate features like prediction markets. If someone does want to do a dice type feature why not just make it external to Bitshares or use DAC Play?
Augur may become the greatest gambling platform in history
...Augur is destined to become the cypherpunks answer to gambling prohibition—the betting man’s version of the online drug market Silk Road...
Augur also serves the less high-minded—though no less noble—purpose of providing cost savings and convenience to gamblers. Restrictions on gambling serve to protect government revenue at the betting man's expense. State-sanctioned casino operators pay high taxes, and state-run lotteries fleece their customers. But there's no logical or moral case for government restrictions on gambling, since no third party is harmed when consenting adults wager money on the future. Augur actually has the potential to make the world safer by taking away market share in the gambling industry from criminals.
I would prefer to see cannabis commodities and assets than to see blatant gambling because it only will take away from the legitimate features like prediction markets. If someone does want to do a dice type feature why not just make it external to Bitshares or use DAC Play?
Prediction markets will offer sports betting which is 'blatant gambling' and that is going to ruffle a whole lot more feathers than dice.QuoteAugur may become the greatest gambling platform in history
...Augur is destined to become the cypherpunks answer to gambling prohibition—the betting man’s version of the online drug market Silk Road...
Augur also serves the less high-minded—though no less noble—purpose of providing cost savings and convenience to gamblers. Restrictions on gambling serve to protect government revenue at the betting man's expense. State-sanctioned casino operators pay high taxes, and state-run lotteries fleece their customers. But there's no logical or moral case for government restrictions on gambling, since no third party is harmed when consenting adults wager money on the future. Augur actually has the potential to make the world safer by taking away market share in the gambling industry from criminals.
https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/11/augur-gambling-prediction-ethereum
I don't think bitshares needs to directly offer gambling, but I do think bitshares should have the simple tools available for someone who does want to offer it themselves.
I would prefer to see cannabis commodities and assets than to see blatant gambling because it only will take away from the legitimate features like prediction markets. If someone does want to do a dice type feature why not just make it external to Bitshares or use DAC Play?
Prediction markets will offer sports betting which is 'blatant gambling' and that is going to ruffle a whole lot more feathers than dice.QuoteAugur may become the greatest gambling platform in history
...Augur is destined to become the cypherpunks answer to gambling prohibition—the betting man’s version of the online drug market Silk Road...
Augur also serves the less high-minded—though no less noble—purpose of providing cost savings and convenience to gamblers. Restrictions on gambling serve to protect government revenue at the betting man's expense. State-sanctioned casino operators pay high taxes, and state-run lotteries fleece their customers. But there's no logical or moral case for government restrictions on gambling, since no third party is harmed when consenting adults wager money on the future. Augur actually has the potential to make the world safer by taking away market share in the gambling industry from criminals.
https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/11/augur-gambling-prediction-ethereum
There is a huge difference between dice which is blatant gambling and prediction markets. Prediction markets are more than just gambling because you can analyze a prediction market to get truly valuable information.
You get nothing of value from analyzing dice. Dice is just gambling, it's literally junk information, it's junk food. Why should we sell junk food when we can sell gourmet food in our restaurant?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futarchy
"Global opportunity for online betting and casino market estimated at $27 (billion) now, $36B by 2018," one slide in DraftKings' presentation said. Another noted that "sports wagering" was a large potential market, with one estimate "that illegal sports wagers are as much as $380 billion annually."
The challenge with gambling is that it exposes the developers of the software to more risk than just about any other thing we could write.
The challenge with gambling is that it exposes the developers of the software to more risk than just about any other thing we could write.
The challenge with gambling is that it exposes the developers of the software to more risk than just about any other thing we could write.
Didn't the creating of Augur mean it's ok to do this sort of stuff? Assuming it's decentralized and there's no need for a specific 3rd party to host it...
What about the legal / regulatory aspect of this?
We have been in active, constructive communications with past and current members of key regulatory agencies, including the CFTC.
This legal analysis was written by one of our advisors (and two other friends of the project). Page 67, section b "Decentralized Applications," pg. 70, 2. "Predictions Markets," and pg. 73, section c "Law and Decentralization" are the parts that relate to us. We think it captures our views on how regulators will approach this.
The law does not prohibit the creation of open-source, decentralized prediction market software, nor the distribution of of cryptocurrencytokens. In fact, writing source-code is a protected activity under the First Amendment as demonstrated in Junger v. Daly.
We have examined legal precedents and case law, our legal advisory is world-class and we are being entirely transparent about what we are building. We have been, and are more than happy to continue, engaging in discussions with any interested parties, including regulatory authorites, about the software.
The challenge with gambling is that it exposes the developers of the software to more risk than just about any other thing we could write.
Didn't the creating of Augur mean it's ok to do this sort of stuff? Assuming it's decentralized and there's no need for a specific 3rd party to host it...
Not necessarily OK they are taking an educated riskQuoteWhat about the legal / regulatory aspect of this?
We have been in active, constructive communications with past and current members of key regulatory agencies, including the CFTC.
This legal analysis was written by one of our advisors (and two other friends of the project). Page 67, section b "Decentralized Applications," pg. 70, 2. "Predictions Markets," and pg. 73, section c "Law and Decentralization" are the parts that relate to us. We think it captures our views on how regulators will approach this.
The law does not prohibit the creation of open-source, decentralized prediction market software, nor the distribution of of cryptocurrencytokens. In fact, writing source-code is a protected activity under the First Amendment as demonstrated in Junger v. Daly.
We have examined legal precedents and case law, our legal advisory is world-class and we are being entirely transparent about what we are building. We have been, and are more than happy to continue, engaging in discussions with any interested parties, including regulatory authorites, about the software.
http://www.augur.net/blog/augur-answers
I would prefer to see cannabis commodities and assets than to see blatant gambling because it only will take away from the legitimate features like prediction markets. If someone does want to do a dice type feature why not just make it external to Bitshares or use DAC Play?
Prediction markets will offer sports betting which is 'blatant gambling' and that is going to ruffle a whole lot more feathers than dice.QuoteAugur may become the greatest gambling platform in history
...Augur is destined to become the cypherpunks answer to gambling prohibition—the betting man’s version of the online drug market Silk Road...
Augur also serves the less high-minded—though no less noble—purpose of providing cost savings and convenience to gamblers. Restrictions on gambling serve to protect government revenue at the betting man's expense. State-sanctioned casino operators pay high taxes, and state-run lotteries fleece their customers. But there's no logical or moral case for government restrictions on gambling, since no third party is harmed when consenting adults wager money on the future. Augur actually has the potential to make the world safer by taking away market share in the gambling industry from criminals.
https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/11/augur-gambling-prediction-ethereum
There is a huge difference between dice which is blatant gambling and prediction markets. Prediction markets are more than just gambling because you can analyze a prediction market to get truly valuable information.
You get nothing of value from analyzing dice. Dice is just gambling, it's literally junk information, it's junk food. Why should we sell junk food when we can sell gourmet food in our restaurant?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futarchy
Yes you can ask some interesting questions via prediction markets, but their bread and butter will be 90% sports betting where the demand is, so there will be no sugar coating that whatever platform offers prediction markets is among other things a blatant gambling platform.
Do you not see the heat daily fantasy betting is getting in the US at the moment?
http://voiceherald.com/2015/12/13/fantasy-sport-sites-stay-open-despite-illegal-gambling.html
At the same time DraftKings are willing to take the risk because they like dollar, dollar bills y'all....Quote"Global opportunity for online betting and casino market estimated at $27 (billion) now, $36B by 2018," one slide in DraftKings' presentation said. Another noted that "sports wagering" was a large potential market, with one estimate "that illegal sports wagers are as much as $380 billion annually."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/critics-say-ny-evidence-suggests-fantasy-sports-sites-consider-themselves/2257426
I'm all for prediction markets too, but they're going to take the same if not more heat than other forms of gambling.
The challenge with gambling is that it exposes the developers of the software to more risk than just about any other thing we could write.
Thanks for the reply, completely understandable but obviously a pity.
This might not be relevant, I don't speak code, but it seems Vitalik is writing gambling related code for Ethereum...
https://m.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3kwsaf/if_you_are_going_to_be_building_gambling_sites/
https://github.com/ethereum/dapp-bin/blob/master/serpent_gamble/prepare.py
I guess the difference is it's then up to third parties to implement it.
Whoever, for the purpose of profit, gathers people to engage in gambling, runs a gambling house or makes gambling his profession shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also be fined.
Sometimes it's just not worth it to build something directly on Bitshares or to have the developers associated with certain things. It's not that I'm against gambling but I just think if you want gambling there is a DAC Play blockchain specifically set up to take on these sorts of risks. I don't see why all risk should be centralized on Bitshares if Bitshares is the most critical blockchain, the mother blockchain.
Why not take the risks on the chains which were set up specifically for these sorts of experiments?
Unlike Ethereum which is general purpose and have many types of apps, Bitshares is only finance, and as soon as you associate it with gambling you make it very easy to ban. If those associations are to be made, why would you want to have the core developers make that association by building a casino right beside the stock market?
What is the actual function we are talking about here, that dice requires, and bitshares does not currently have?
Is it just a transparent, verifiable RNG?
Or does it require an escrow smart contract whose result is based on the outcome of the RNG?
Is the existence of such a function, by itself, considered gambling? Or is it how a frontend website/client uses that function.
Are there any other legitimate uses for that type of contract? Couldn't the contract be created with existing multisig functions?
At the very least we could have the RNG. There's no way, that this alone could be considered gambling. Random numbers are used for all sorts of things. It would be up to the frontend how to use it, and only they would be subject to whatever legal or cultural consequences.
I don't think bitshares needs to directly offer gambling, but I do think bitshares should have the simple tools available for someone who does want to offer it themselves.
The challenge with gambling is that it exposes the developers of the software to more risk than just about any other thing we could write.
Thanks for the reply, completely understandable but obviously a pity.
This might not be relevant, I don't speak code, but it seems Vitalik is writing gambling related code for Ethereum...
https://m.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3kwsaf/if_you_are_going_to_be_building_gambling_sites/
https://github.com/ethereum/dapp-bin/blob/master/serpent_gamble/prepare.py
I guess the difference is it's then up to third parties to implement it.
Vitalik can get away with that because Ethereum is general purpose. Bitshares is specifically a financial platform though and mixing gambling and finance in the same interface is crazy stupid.
Why not integrate Silk Road into the interface so high frequency traders can keep up their supply of cocaine?
Sometimes it's just not worth it to build something directly on Bitshares or to have the developers associated with certain things. It's not that I'm against gambling but I just think if you want gambling there is a DAC Play blockchain specifically set up to take on these sorts of risks. I don't see why all risk should be centralized on Bitshares if Bitshares is the most critical blockchain, the mother blockchain.
Why not take the risks on the chains which were set up specifically for these sorts of experiments?
Here is the law in ChinaQuoteWhoever, for the purpose of profit, gathers people to engage in gambling, runs a gambling house or makes gambling his profession shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also be fined.
Is it worth killing Bitshares in China? China is the main market for Bitshares and you want to poison that market with gambling so regulators can have every excuse they need to go after witnesses and even users?
Unlike Ethereum which is general purpose and have many types of apps, Bitshares is only finance, and as soon as you associate it with gambling you make it very easy to ban. If those associations are to be made, why would you want to have the core developers make that association by building a casino right beside the stock market?
Imagine you're some Chinese politician or regulator and you're using Bitshares for the first time, introduced to Bitshares because of crowd funding or the stocks, and you see a casino built into it? It's one thing to have an ad for a casino which is a separate third party operation, but it's something else completely to build it into the interface itself. If it must be decentralized, use the DAC Play blockchain and then put the UIA on Bitshares so people can buy it through Bitshares.
Also remember Lottoshares? If it's such a big demand then why aren't people using that?
http://www.onlinebetting.com/legal/china/
In order to reduce risks on the developers, witnesses and the blockchain itself all of the topics below should be avoided:
1. Drugs or controlled substances
2. Gambling
3. Bribery
4. Dealing in obscene matter
If individuals want to take their chances with these non-violent but clearly fronwd upon activities then they can create a UIA and do so as a third party (this way the risk is entirely on the people who want to take it). There is no need for a FBA or to bring the whole blockchain into their experiment because by doing that you also spread risk and potentially infect the whole blockchain with police investigations.
Gambling isn't likely to make Bitshares have a 100 billion dollar market cap. If a casino were such a good idea then you'd be using the DAC Play blockchain, or Lottoshares, or Lottoshares, or any of the others. My guess is a casino done they way you'd be thinking about doing it would bring only risks, it wouldn't better the world in any kind of way, or advance liberty in any kind of way, so it's not like prediction markets which actually have some purpose.
Of course I'm not the decision maker, the community is. It's very possible that the majority in the community either don't live in a country like China, or they don't live in the USA, so they might think it's a good idea to do it. I just hope if they go into it that they realize there are cops who don't have anything better to do but to investigate stuff like that.
Also remember Lottoshares? If it's such a big demand then why aren't people using that?
Gambling isn't likely to make Bitshares have a 100 billion dollar market cap. If a casino were such a good idea then you'd be using the DAC Play blockchain, or Lottoshares, or Lottoshares, or any of the others. My guess is a casino done they way you'd be thinking about doing it would bring only risks, it wouldn't better the world in any kind of way, or advance liberty in any kind of way, so it's not like prediction markets which actually have some purpose.
Is it worth killing Bitshares in China? China is the main market for Bitshares and you want to poison that market with gambling so regulators can have every excuse they need to go after witnesses and even users?
Unlike Ethereum which is general purpose and have many types of apps, Bitshares is only finance, and as soon as you associate it with gambling you make it very easy to ban. If those associations are to be made, why would you want to have the core developers make that association by building a casino right beside the stock market?
QuoteUnlike Ethereum which is general purpose and have many types of apps, Bitshares is only finance, and as soon as you associate it with gambling you make it very easy to ban. If those associations are to be made, why would you want to have the core developers make that association by building a casino right beside the stock market?
BTS merged with FMV and DNS, I believe the ultimate ambition is to make it a general purpose platform wherever it is in the best interests of BTS to do so.
I agree also that because of risks in gambling we shouldn't do it, at least for now. Maybe later when we are so big that nobody can ignore us.
QuoteUnlike Ethereum which is general purpose and have many types of apps, Bitshares is only finance, and as soon as you associate it with gambling you make it very easy to ban. If those associations are to be made, why would you want to have the core developers make that association by building a casino right beside the stock market?
BTS merged with FMV and DNS, I believe the ultimate ambition is to make it a general purpose platform wherever it is in the best interests of BTS to do so.
More and more I feel all we have is BitSharesX by a new name, and we're stuck, not allowed to do anything else.
How many of you guys would actually be interested in backing the house if we launch a dice based project (open source maybe) ?
Keep in mind, it will be basic and not decentralized, but functional and good enough to get things rolling.
Should, ofcourse ask kuro and hybridd if its even possible, but yea.
How many of you guys would actually be interested in backing the house if we launch a dice based project (open source maybe) ?
Keep in mind, it will be basic and not decentralized, but functional and good enough to get things rolling.
Should, ofcourse ask kuro and hybridd if its even possible, but yea.
How many of you guys would actually be interested in backing the house if we launch a dice based project (open source maybe) ?
Keep in mind, it will be basic and not decentralized, but functional and good enough to get things rolling.
Should, ofcourse ask kuro and hybridd if its even possible, but yea.
Many people would probably take that risk, but not me, because without a gambling licence you can expect a knock at the door from your local authorities who would confiscate the bank :)
Instant confirmations.
People would actually love it.
I hate having to wait so much on Bitcoins you know ?
Instant confirmations.
People would actually love it.
I hate having to wait so much on Bitcoins you know ?
I don't see as much potential in centralized sites, but instant deposit confirmations is good advantage.
https://just-dice.com/ now uses CLAM crypto-currency,
I asked in their troll box and average deposit confirmation time is 6 minutes so BTS is much better than even that. (Also for the record, their trollbox said their site makes about $1000 per day profit and the stats are there too.) So there is some value in non BTC centralized dice sites.
Imo prior to gambling taking off we need stealth transactions.
With stealth transactions I could safely help fund development, and could safely partake.
http://lottoshares.com/
Instant confirmations.
People would actually love it.
I hate having to wait so much on Bitcoins you know ?
I don't see as much potential in centralized sites, but instant deposit confirmations is good advantage.
https://just-dice.com/ now uses CLAM crypto-currency,
I asked in their troll box and average deposit confirmation time is 6 minutes so BTS is much better than even that. (Also for the record, their trollbox said their site makes about $1000 per day profit and the stats are there too.) So there is some value in non BTC centralized dice sites.
So, what's a point in making another dice casino? Just negotiate just-dice to accept BTS, bitUSD, bitWhatever. [edit]Or make a CLAM gateway in bitshares and you are good to play.[/edit]
Imo prior to gambling taking off we need stealth transactions.
With stealth transactions I could safely help fund development, and could safely partake.
No you couldn't. The hole in the proposal design would be exposed with any seizure of private keys. The government can see who sent them the coins, if they own the private keys.
I was thinking more along the lines of creating an account not linked to me. Sending blinded funds to it. Unblinding those funds. Upgrading to ltm, and using that account to fund and or gamble. The final hop would be open for all to see anyways.
Edit. And yes I know I could do all that now, it's just a lot more work than it should be and there is very little blinded activity to hide mine.
I was thinking more along the lines of creating an account not linked to me. Sending blinded funds to it. Unblinding those funds. Upgrading to ltm, and using that account to fund and or gamble. The final hop would be open for all to see anyways.
Edit. And yes I know I could do all that now, it's just a lot more work than it should be and there is very little blinded activity to hide mine.
That's still just as traceable isn't it? The unlinked account knows who sent it blinded funds and the gambling bank knows the unlinked account for the same reason.
I agree also that because of risks in gambling we shouldn't do it, at least for now. Maybe later when we are so big that nobody can ignore us.
The problem is whether you can get big enough without delving into activities like gambling, which was one of the primary activities that bootstrapped Bitcoin (As well as things like Silk Road) A key USP of a decentralized blockchain is the difficulty in shutting it down so it stands to reason you may attract and profit the most from activities some people might want to shut down.
Microsoft and some big financial names are also looking favourably on Ethereum, despite the fact that Augur is the biggest Ethereum dapp being developed, which is clearly going to have sports betting as it's bread and butter. The fact Vitalik is writing gambling related smart contracts doesn't seem to phase them either.
In BTS there is a lot of risk though, I just bring it up from time to time to test the waters because the inevitable future is coming on imo
If only there was a MAS where those who provide the gambling services could be insured by the gamblers and each other.Are you trying to sell something? 8)
If only there was a way to insure against regulatory persecution.
If only there was a MAS where those who provide the gambling services could be insured by the gamblers and each other.
If only there was a way to insure against regulatory persecution.