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Other => Graveyard => Muse/SoundDAC => Topic started by: cob on January 21, 2016, 08:09:14 pm

Title: January 2016 update
Post by: cob on January 21, 2016, 08:09:14 pm
Well it’s finally time for the update.
So many things were up in the air in the last 6 weeks it was impossible for me to say anything with certainty. Now that the dust has settled I can fill you all in on what we are currently up to.

Let’s me start off by letting those that didn’t know yet, that MUSE was upgraded to the level where BitShares is at today. So many if not all of the known-issues have been taken care of. Upgrade here: https://github.com/peertracksinc/muse/releases/tag/v1.0.160115

OK moving on to the bigger picture.
I won’t bullshit you guys, the last weeks were the darkest times in all of PeerTracks history.

We had some issues with developers and lost a lot of development time over it. (All settled now though!)
MUSE was still running out of date, bug-ridden code, which caused a lot of issues on many fronts. Development was stalled for a while and we had to rethink of a lot of our strategy. More on this below.

Meanwhile, those that follow that kind of thing must know that the tech bubble is deflating. The last quarter of 2015 showed huge decline. VC money is drying up, down rounds for many start-ups and some companies sold for less than the amount they had raised in the previous round of funding.

Luckily we had planned for this! There were plenty of obvious signs both present and historical that this was to happen. Which is the main reason why we kept our team external and didn’t want to hire our own internal employees. We wanted to survive the pop. What a great move that was given the circumstances!

We are weathering the storm with super low expenses right now.

Tech companies and start-ups are going belly up, downsizing and letting a lot of people go. Many tech start-ups that got a high valuation went apeshit with the funds they raised and got huge, luxurious and expensive office spaces and offered tons of extravagant benefits to their staff, thinking the boom would last forever.

So here we are, ready to buy (hire) when people are panic selling (firing).

Which is great timing since our new approach is to have a distributed and cross-trained developer team. We were much to dependent on external firms building out what we required. So incentives and expertise is migrating to our side of the fence. We can and will still work with everyone we’ve worked with in the past; it’s just that now we will have our own internal devs doing most of the heavy lifting.

(If you know anyone with coding skills, blockchain and Graphene knowledge, that you can vouch for, point them our way. PM or email me. We are looking for badasses!)

Now regarding VC funding drying up. There is one hell of a silver lining to it all.
It was recommended (by more then a few people) that in 2016 we raise funds Kickstarter-style.
The campaign would hit four birds with one stone. The goals are to:

Venture Capital is drying up, but individuals still have plenty of funds to contribute to support this unique project set to change the entertainment world.

Finally, our marketing firm has begun its work!
First thing on their list was to get a clear understanding of both platforms we are building (TroopeerS and PeerTracks) so they can create the image they wish to portray of us in order to make the biggest splash.
We are to be branded as tech entrepreneurs creating a revolutionary new way to engage with stars and artists. These super cool cats will be releasing two products, TroopeerS and PeerTracks the music app.
People roll their eyes at music start-ups. Even the show Silicon Valley (a must watch) starts off with a joke about this.
I cannot disclose what is down the pipes with this marketing firm, you’ll have to wait and see.

The short term goal is to get MUSE's marketcap to rise.
We are confident that our presence in the mainstream media, accompanied by screenshots and footage of both Troopeers and PeerTracks, will get the outside attention MUSE needs to rise. A bigger marketcap means a bigger community, more developers, possible worker proposals and the beginnings of a muse_USD market.

TL;DR

Survived dark times thanks to our boom and bust timing (:
We have begun hiring now that everyone is firing
Our marketing firm is branding us as tech entrepreneurs with world changing products Troopeers and PeerTracks
We will be releasing Screenshots of TroopeerS in February
We will be making multiple videos
We will be Crowdfunding to:

Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: jaran on January 21, 2016, 08:50:41 pm
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.



Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 21, 2016, 08:57:52 pm
Thanks for the tl dr
I believe in you
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Riverhead on January 21, 2016, 09:07:43 pm

Thanks for the update Cob. Glad brighter days are here at last :). Onward!
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 21, 2016, 09:20:52 pm
Thank you, behind this project 100%.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: lil_jay890 on January 21, 2016, 09:21:08 pm
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.

Why would they switch now?  They wan't fast tps and graphene gives them that.  They are not trying to entice outside dev's to build apps and business's on the muse blockchain.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: jaran on January 21, 2016, 09:25:40 pm
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.

Why would they switch now?  They wan't fast tps and graphene gives them that.  They are not trying to entice outside dev's to build apps and business's on the muse blockchain.

Because they need to hire developers to build muse/peertracks/troopers.  I think they are going to have issues finding anyone outside bytemaster's crew that could do what they ultimately need done.  Not sure why they even need fast tps at this point.  they have no product and no developers working with them.  The developer community is clearly much stronger and greater in ethereum thus it would allow them to attract the talent they need to actually build a product.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: lil_jay890 on January 21, 2016, 09:32:07 pm
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.

Why would they switch now?  They wan't fast tps and graphene gives them that.  They are not trying to entice outside dev's to build apps and business's on the muse blockchain.

Because they need to hire developers to build muse/peertracks/troopers.  I think they are going to have issues finding anyone outside bytemaster's crew that could do what they ultimately need done.  Not sure why they even need fast tps at this point.  they have no product and no developers working with them.  The developer community is clearly much stronger and greater in ethereum thus it would allow them to attract the talent they need to actually build a product.

According to a few coders that have come to these forums, it should take an experienced programmer around 2 weeks to familiarize himself with the graphene code.  It's just C++, it's not rocket science.  I'm betting the learning curve for ethereum is going to be around the same amount of time.  Remember they are talking about hiring programmers from failed startups, not necessarily blockchain specialists.  Plus they have access to CNX for support in some way i'm sure.

Unless Cob wanted to set this project back another year or more... I don't think he would even entertain the idea.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Akado on January 21, 2016, 09:36:39 pm
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.

Following your logic, why would anyone use graphene then? Or any other chain that's not ethereum?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: jaran on January 21, 2016, 09:54:52 pm
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.

Following your logic, why would anyone use graphene then? Or any other chain that's not ethereum?

Obviously every project is different and what platform they choose is dependent on their project.  Which is why i asked cob what his reasons are.  If they are sound reasons then sure they should do what works for them. 

I am voicing this opinion because I have watched them build nothing for over a year and its clear they have developer problems.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: woolcii on January 22, 2016, 01:20:21 am
well,cool
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Riverhead on January 22, 2016, 01:41:29 am
I am voicing this opinion because I have watched them build nothing for over a year and its clear they have developer problems.

Ethereum is very young compared to Graphene. The tool sets are still being developed and there are issues, bugs, and features missing from Solidity. This isn't a knock on Ethereum; it should be great. It's just not really usable in its current state.

Graphene on the other hand is almost a tailor made platform for what Muse/Peertracks is building. Xeroc's efforts on documentation are fantastic and the code itself is very well documented internally.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: donkeypong on January 22, 2016, 04:08:11 am
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to getting this project started in earnest!
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: testz on January 22, 2016, 05:35:03 am
I know this wont be a popular comment.

I think you should switch to ethereum honestly .   Much easier for developers to learn and get up to speed on. 

There are very few developers with graphene knowledge except the ones you guys already know about.  What are the reasons to stay with graphene? 

Do you guys have a CTO or someone like it that can advise you?  Maybe ask @toast what he thinks about it.  I see him doing development on ethereum now.

Why would they switch now?  They wan't fast tps and graphene gives them that.  They are not trying to entice outside dev's to build apps and business's on the muse blockchain.

Because they need to hire developers to build muse/peertracks/troopers.  I think they are going to have issues finding anyone outside bytemaster's crew that could do what they ultimately need done.  Not sure why they even need fast tps at this point.  they have no product and no developers working with them.  The developer community is clearly much stronger and greater in ethereum thus it would allow them to attract the talent they need to actually build a product.

AFAIK all/most blockchain things required for MUSE (smart contracts) already implemented in MUSE by bytemaster's crew. So @cob crew need Troopeers and PeerTracks web developers which can integrate Graphene blockchain into these web portals backend.

In this case how Ethereum can help MUSE?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Ben Mason on January 22, 2016, 07:42:27 am
Thanks for the update cob. I hope the vision for setting artists free remains strong. These are challenging times, just keep going. Your efforts are very much appreciated.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on January 22, 2016, 07:52:41 am
Ok, and now draw a line between two Points in time comparing this great blablabla 1.5years ago:

Hello everyone!

As some of you may know PeerTracks just had a week long gathering of the devs in Houston Texas. Since we’ve decided the Minimal Viable Product (MVP) needs to include streaming, we used the opportunity to get the whole team in one location and go over the entire business model from A to Z.

After having met the Kosovo guys (which are AWESOME might I add) in person, we locked ourselves is a house for a week with some whiteboards, post-its, stickers and really got down to business.

To say the week long design sprint was productive would be an understatement! It was extremely valuable. For the first 3-4 days we had epiphany after epiphany. This is going to be bigger than we all thought. And yet the purpose of the sprint was to get all ideas and features and possibilities down to an MVP. So although a ton a value was discovered, the road towards reaching it is now way shorter and simpler.

The goal was to find out what gives us the edge on the competition. What do we have that none of the big players have? What is our unfair advantage?
Well, we found it and are going to capture that market as fast as possible. The rest will be built on top of the MVP and all the extra little features will be added later on once we’ve established a presence in the music market.

Now I wish I could spill the beans and tell you guys everything we figured out and yes it’s very un-crypto of us to keep it secret…
BUT
We simply cannot go into details just yet. We are going up against Google, Apple and a bunch of Sharks in the music industry. They have the funding, they have the coders, they have the time, the lawyers, the contacts.
Yet we found our unfair advantage and are going to RUN with it.

To give you an idea of what I mean, think of google +
Google has the tech, the money, the people, and everything you could possibly imagine to create a great social media platform that could out perform Facebook. And yet, Google + still has not caught on, why? Because the community is what’s valuable. We cannot built a gimmick website that can simply be replicated by the big boys for a million dollars.
We have our unfair advantage and a beach head. We know exactly what we need to do in order to make it big  (:

So just to keep it very general.
-We’ve figured out a way to make our back end cheap, fast and transparent. So much that it could change the crypto and tech worlds in general. BitShares Music might grow up to be much MUCH more.
-We’ve found a way, through the existence of Artistcoins, to benefit to small artist and the already a superstar artist.
-We’ve found a way to fix the Taylor Swift vs Spotify issue. Meaning huge selling point for BIG artists.
-We’ve found a way to make the best playlists out there. (appealing to users/music listeners)
-We’ve found a way to change the entire royalty tracking payment system.

And we’ve actually started testing the user interface with users to see if the non-crypto people get it.

More details will come out as we go of course.

We are planning on a soft launch in March. The goal is to have a working MVP of PeerTracks’ basic features and get a few hundred users testing everything out. Artists will also be able to sign up at launch and see what the blockchain can do for them.
From there, Eddie and I will work on getting additional funding in order to get our MVP all the bells and whistles it needs to be a full blown, scalable beast of a machine!

So thank you everyone for the support thus far. Very appreciated! We are doing our best to deliver a kick ass product ensuring that the network it rests on has a high value. I am no doubt biased on this but I think buying Notes was a good move ^^

Here are a few pictures of our week for those that are interested!

http://imgur.com/5yKSOnI&vwj4u2W&7qr9gJZ&qJJs2bO&ajydrBL&DzistkC#0

I dont know what you think, but thats how crashing Projects always end up. Taking the funds, spending on numerous Events but in the end they all start to inform the "Investors" how bad everything around them is working out and that`s why no one can present you a single bit of what they "have been working on" for the last 16-20months.

Too bad, but i see another Investment just got burned in this stupid crypto world. Seems like ETH and FCT should have been my only investments
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Pheonike on January 22, 2016, 10:01:54 am
Dont forget the change over to bts 2.0 screwed up a lot of things. A lot of development time and money for many projects was lost because of it.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: cob on January 22, 2016, 04:43:46 pm
Big difference between now and 1.5 years ago is that we have experience, contacts, a much better feel for both industries, a blockchain and a platform.
Everything is moving along, despite the hurdles.

Now comes the time to promote and get outsiders existed about the project while raising funds that will allow us to hire a bigger internal team.

Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Musewhale on January 22, 2016, 05:36:28 pm
BM gave COB a bigger than bigger pigeon. :P :P :P
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: pendragon3 on January 22, 2016, 06:28:07 pm
As a long-time holder of MUSE/notes and supporter of the project, I'm glad to hear that things are moving along in a positive direction. Thanks and kudos to cob & co. for navigating the rough waters of the past weeks. Brighter days lie ahead, no doubt.

Still not sure how I feel about the new name, though. What do other people think of the name?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Riverhead on January 22, 2016, 06:38:07 pm
I dont know what you think, but thats how crashing Projects always end up. Taking the funds, spending on numerous Events but in the end they all start to inform the "Investors" how bad everything around them is working out and that`s why no one can present you a single bit of what they "have been working on" for the last 16-20months.

Too bad, but i see another Investment just got burned in this stupid crypto world. Seems like ETH and FCT should have been my only investments

Who pissed in your cheerios man? These projects aren't exactly cookie cutter and yes a lot of them will fail. ETH and FCT are great projects as well but perhaps crypto isn't the space for you. I look at crypto as high risk with the chance of high reward. With that risk comes a huge chance of loss.

That said I don't think your investment is "burned up". The project is still alive, moving forward, and just about to get its name out there. Up to you of course - I'll be happy to buy your shares and sit on them for another couple years.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Pheonike on January 22, 2016, 07:20:42 pm

Yeah, are you guys locked on the troopeers name? My two cents,

Peermid or Katapult.

Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: twitter on January 22, 2016, 08:28:30 pm
Nice work .. cob
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on January 22, 2016, 08:49:45 pm
I dont know what you think, but thats how crashing Projects always end up. Taking the funds, spending on numerous Events but in the end they all start to inform the "Investors" how bad everything around them is working out and that`s why no one can present you a single bit of what they "have been working on" for the last 16-20months.

Too bad, but i see another Investment just got burned in this stupid crypto world. Seems like ETH and FCT should have been my only investments

Who pissed in your cheerios man? These projects aren't exactly cookie cutter and yes a lot of them will fail. ETH and FCT are great projects as well but perhaps crypto isn't the space for you. I look at crypto as high risk with the chance of high reward. With that risk comes a huge chance of loss.

That said I don't think your investment is "burned up". The project is still alive, moving forward, and just about to get its name out there. Up to you of course - I'll be happy to buy your shares and sit on them for another couple years.

I honestly don't know how you drew this conclusion, because I am simply pointing out the bad "marketing strategy" considering the investors. First you make some great "promises" during the crowdsale and 1.5 years after there is nothing they can present to us.
Hearing those stories like we have today is a punch in the face, because these kind of updates can be made on a weekly basis. There aren't even liquid markets to risk a crash when you have bad news to tell.

If cob shows up every 8 weeks with a monthly update I expect some technical updates and results to present.

So what is the bottom line of all this update? I really don't see the meaning and I am asking for facts.

I have the feeling there is absolutely nothing on the line that works as it was supposed to work plus the webpage of muse and peertracks are horrible and don't attract anyone.

Every non-crypto person I have the link to peertracks doesn't understand if this is a joke or Ponzi scheme. Nothing there to test or get a feeling of.

So cob, don't you think talk is cheap?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 22, 2016, 09:07:19 pm

So cob, don't you think talk is cheap?

That's why you don't see Cob doing cartwheels with fireworks exploding out his butt with weekly updates. I rather him take his time to do it right than rush a project that's not ready. When he has something to show, he'll show. He said we'll see screenshots in February, I wish him the best on continuing to develop the product.

Between my holdings and the guys I proxy for,  we have a substantial investment in this product's success. I understand your frustration and I wish the project was further along. I also wish I was 6'4 but that didn't quite happen either.  Cob laid out the challenges, where he's heading and some upcoming expectations. It's a gamble that I'm happy to take.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on January 22, 2016, 09:11:27 pm
I agree on most of the replies here and I am not here to fud the project, but with every additional month passing by you hope for BIG news, because you barely hear from them.

And as I said I post the link to the webpage in every comment section of I can when people are talking about music and the future of it.

But how the hell can promotion work when you cannot refer to a single bit of progress and as I said the webpage looks horrible!

At least in this department they should have done it right at least in 18 months!
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 22, 2016, 09:18:34 pm

Still not sure how I feel about the new name, though. What do other people think of the name?

Not a fan. :(
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: DMo09 on January 22, 2016, 09:52:44 pm
I don't understand... is the new name supposed to replace "Peertracks" or is it a name for a different branch?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Pheonike on January 22, 2016, 10:16:18 pm

It is suppose to represent all fan-based industries. PeerTracks will be one branch of it. You can have a "PeerTracks" frontend for athletes, actors, writers, etc.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: svk on January 23, 2016, 01:23:06 pm
You have to wonder where all the money went, at least for AGS there was a public list of expenses. Here I can't help feel like it's all gone to travelling and "networking", which I'm sure has been productive but there's been talk of websites and a wallet being developed, did that actually happen?

Oh and TroopeerS, really? Sounds like something for 10 year olds imo, and it makes no sense for an international product.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on January 23, 2016, 01:52:48 pm
You have to wonder where all the money went, at least for AGS there was a public list of expenses. Here I can't help feel like it's all gone to travelling and "networking", which I'm sure has been productive but there's been talk of websites and a wallet being developed, did that actually happen?

Exactly that man... Sometimes i think they have had some nice trips to Eastern Europe lol
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: btswildpig on January 23, 2016, 02:42:24 pm
You have to wonder where all the money went, at least for AGS there was a public list of expenses. Here I can't help feel like it's all gone to travelling and "networking", which I'm sure has been productive but there's been talk of websites and a wallet being developed, did that actually happen?

Oh and TroopeerS, really? Sounds like something for 10 year olds imo, and it makes no sense for an international product.

my thought too ....
BTS money was crappy spent , but at least BTS did provided some failed product ( 1.0 )  and several versions of failed website .

I have no problem seeing failed work . but ...  at least there should be some failed work after one year , right ..
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 23, 2016, 03:13:47 pm
I have linked several artists to cedric at peertracks dot com. It can only become a success.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: jaran on January 23, 2016, 03:30:24 pm
You have to wonder where all the money went, at least for AGS there was a public list of expenses. Here I can't help feel like it's all gone to travelling and "networking", which I'm sure has been productive but there's been talk of websites and a wallet being developed, did that actually happen?

Oh and TroopeerS, really? Sounds like something for 10 year olds imo, and it makes no sense for an international product.

Don't forget in the last update there was mention of a high powered attorney that they had to run everything by.  Yes, always need that fantastic legal advice when you have no product....

Now thats money well spent :)
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 23, 2016, 04:25:12 pm
Thanks for the update.

TroopeerS is a strange name, I don't get it, is it a play on words, like True Peers or something? 

As for the complaints, I don't think Peertracks as had that much money to work with but I don't remember.

The short term goal is to get MUSE's marketcap to rise.
We are confident that our presence in the mainstream media, accompanied by screenshots and footage of both Troopeers and PeerTracks, will get the outside attention MUSE needs to rise.

Your marketing approach seems fairly good but given the long period of time since inception without an MVP, and that as you acknowledge both the initial altcoin boom and recent tech bubble is over, it might be optimistic to expect the CAP to rise much before a product is released. A strong video will certainly help.

You may consider getting in touch with Microsoft's BAAS when you have a very clear roadmap, video and screenshots. It's a long shot that you would get on there, pre product launch but that would get MUSE to $4-8 Million CAP judging from recent additions, Emercoin and Factom.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on January 23, 2016, 04:29:53 pm
You have to wonder where all the money went, at least for AGS there was a public list of expenses. Here I can't help feel like it's all gone to travelling and "networking", which I'm sure has been productive but there's been talk of websites and a wallet being developed, did that actually happen?

Oh and TroopeerS, really? Sounds like something for 10 year olds imo, and it makes no sense for an international product.

Don't forget in the last update there was mention of a high powered attorney that they had to run everything by.  Yes, always need that fantastic legal advice when you have no product....

Now thats money well spent :)

lol
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: openledger on January 23, 2016, 04:31:27 pm
First of many articles to come this weekend

http://cointelegraph.com/news/116128/muse-blockchain-music-platform
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: bitcoin777 on January 23, 2016, 04:55:50 pm
I hope i can finally unlock ny muse with this client update..  On another note TrooperS is a terrible name.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 23, 2016, 05:50:13 pm
@cob
I believe in this project. I'm only concerned about what we do differently starting today.

If we want to get this project really moving in the right direction for 2016, I'd recommend a lot more transparency on progress. I think an important lesson learned in this community was secret sauce solutions won't cut it. You have a great group of people here that want to see this project succeed,  As we're trying to get that momentum behind raising the MUSE price, i ask for the following committment.

Spend time daily giving us a real snapshot of everything from moonstone progress to the web site redesign to any pending issues. I think we're past worrying about competition stealing our ideas.

Aside from legal concerns, we need to get naked here. Much more tranparency with investors.

@jaran @Marky0001

As two holders that are have some major concerns, what do you think about what I wrote? I'm about today, no way to roll back into 2015.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: pendragon3 on January 23, 2016, 06:07:26 pm
First of many articles to come this weekend

http://cointelegraph.com/news/116128/muse-blockchain-music-platform


Nice! Looking forward to the other articles...
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 23, 2016, 06:18:33 pm
First of many articles to come this weekend

http://cointelegraph.com/news/116128/muse-blockchain-music-platform

Thank you for continueing to deliver.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on January 23, 2016, 06:57:37 pm
@cob
I believe in this project. I'm only concerned about what we do differently starting today.

If we want to get this project really moving in the right direction for 2016, I'd recommend a lot more transparency on progress. I think an important lesson learned in this community was secret sauce solutions won't cut it. You have a great group of people here that want to see this project succeed,  As we're trying to get that momentum behind raising the MUSE price, i ask for the following committment.

Spend time daily giving us a real snapshot of everything from moonstone progress to the web site redesign to any pending issues. I think we're past worrying about competition stealing our ideas.

Aside from legal concerns, we need to get naked here. Much more tranparency with investors.

@jaran @Marky0001

As two holders that are have some major concerns, what do you think about what I wrote? I'm about today, no way to roll back into 2015.

you are basically saying the same as i think. cob should be more responsible for what he is saying. I mean this kind of story is so ponzi-esce, that he should give some more evidence that this project even exists.

To me there is a real 70%/30% chance of being a big ass fail.

I dont care about his smart explanations as long as their webpage sucks and nothing is even in alpha state.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: jaran on January 23, 2016, 06:59:00 pm
@TravelsAsia

100% agree with you.

Transparency and execution are key at this point.  Everything else is just smoke and mirrors. 

Without devs this project goes nowhere so I would like to see weekly updates on what exactly the devs built once they get them onboard :)
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: particlewave on January 23, 2016, 10:39:50 pm
Maybe supplant the old school, Morrisonesque image on the Peertracks webpage with multiple images reflecting various music gendres (e.g. rock, hip-hop/rap, pop, country, electronic, world). Collage, slideshow or fade images.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: btswolf on January 23, 2016, 10:51:18 pm
Do I read between the lines that BitSapphire jumped off the boat and is now fully in Factom/Pactum things?
Taulant is not responding to mails regarding BTS at all.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: bitcoin777 on January 24, 2016, 01:52:36 am
Still cannot import BTS key using key import tool. Button does NOTHING. What the hell?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Musewhale on January 24, 2016, 07:41:45 am
You have to wonder where all the money went, at least for AGS there was a public list of expenses. Here I can't help feel like it's all gone to travelling and "networking", which I'm sure has been productive but there's been talk of websites and a wallet being developed, did that actually happen?

Oh and TroopeerS, really? Sounds like something for 10 year olds imo, and it makes no sense for an international product.

 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 24, 2016, 07:58:27 pm
I'd love to see a project plan .
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on January 24, 2016, 08:35:30 pm
Do I read between the lines that BitSapphire jumped off the boat and is now fully in Factom/Pactum things?
Taulant is not responding to mails regarding BTS at all.

If this is true then what of the money they took for moonstone?
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 24, 2016, 10:54:35 pm
To make every day updates is not necessary
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: TravelsAsia on January 25, 2016, 04:52:33 am
To make every day updates is not necessary

Until shareholder questions are addressed, I would recommend as much frequency as possible. I'd be more than happy with an actual project plan, status on the items and shareholder concerns addressed. Although not required, I know many are interested in how the initial investment was spent.

First vid released which is heading in the right direction!

https://vid.me/qtKs
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: Marky0001 on March 20, 2016, 07:42:46 pm
pushing this thread up to remind cob, that 2 more months passed without anything being ready to present.
Title: Re: January 2016 update
Post by: DestBest on March 20, 2016, 08:45:59 pm
Check this: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21858.0.html