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Title: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: openledger on January 21, 2016, 11:39:00 pm
Hello to you all,

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Welcome to OpenLedger with its newly created fiat gateway, it is only the start of many things to come in future, so lets enjoy what we have and look forward to the next, and in meantime make sure as a many people as possible know about this.

Cryptocurrency OBITS Adding 'Fiat Gateway' After Robust Crowd Sale
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/01/16/cryptocurrency-obits-ending-crowd-sale-with-buyback-dividend-option-adding-fiat-gateway/#3edfaf154207

All deposits are FREE of charge from my side, so it is your bank or any correspondent bank who will charge you if any.

A day late according to scedule and the news in the media but here it is. It is now possible to trade with fiat backed assets on the BTS platform OpenLedger and all platforms using same.

It is not mentioned yet anywhere on platform, but following curencies are accepted:

GBP, CHF, PLN, HUF, SEK, DKK, NOK, JPY, SGD, HKD, AED, AUD, NZD, CAD

as well as the currencies traded on platform meaning USD, EUR and CNY.

Below a little extra info., or you can just go and try it out for yourself!

Depending on which currecny yu plan to send you may choose to use the USD bank details or the EUR bank details. If in doubt, always use the EUR bank details and leave out any correspondent bank information. It will arrive to destination but maybe one day later.

If you wish to transfer on the base of any of the above mentioned currencies, apart from USD; EUR and CNY, you will need to send me an e-mail to ronny@ccedk.com informing me that you wish to have the currency in question converted to either OPEN.USD, OPEN.EUR or OPEN.CNY at the exchange rate of the day.

Prior to being able to receive any deposit details your are asked to fill out a validation form, and once approved you will not see this request any more on your account.

Once validated, which you will know by return e.mail confirming this, you are good to go, and can click on deposit where you are asked to enter amount you wish to send, and once you click enter an option for deposit information will appear.

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Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: abit on January 21, 2016, 11:46:10 pm
Good  :D
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: Akado on January 21, 2016, 11:51:59 pm
Congratulations! Hope to see a few articles on this! Does it deposit on our BitShares account as soon as CCEDK receives our deposit? Is it automated yet?
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: yvv on January 21, 2016, 11:56:23 pm
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All deposits are FREE of charge from my side, so it is your bank or any correspondent bank who will charge you if any.

Is your bank located in EU?
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: openledger on January 22, 2016, 12:00:20 am
My bank for deposits is located in Riga, Latvia so yes in EU, and my bank for withdrawals is placed near home in Denmark.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: jakub on January 22, 2016, 12:02:41 am
That's fantastic, Ronny.
I guess very soon this fiat gateway will be directly available inside the GUI, right?
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: yvv on January 22, 2016, 12:03:19 am
That's fantastic, Ronny.
I guess very soon this fiat gateway will be directly available inside the GUI, right?

Check the GUI dude :)
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: jakub on January 22, 2016, 12:06:28 am
That's fantastic, Ronny.
I guess very soon this fiat gateway will be directly available inside the GUI, right?

Check the GUI dude :)

My bad :)
I forgot to reload the page.

That's really cool  +5%
A great achievement for BitShares.

Ronny, you are my hero :)
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: jakub on January 22, 2016, 12:11:13 am
And the look of the registration forms is cool as well:
https://openledger.info/v/

A great improvement in comparison to the ccedk (https://www.ccedk.com) webpage.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: donkeypong on January 22, 2016, 05:10:28 am

That's really cool  +5%
A great achievement for BitShares.

Ronny, you are my hero :)

Yes, I could not have said it better. Congratulations!

(https://campusinfo.umich.edu/files/campusinfo/field/image/congratulations.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: Shentist on January 22, 2016, 06:21:32 am
thanks for your work!

looks nice.

could you add the legal entity who will take my FIAT and my data. It should be added in some point it feels not right to not have it here, if i have to provide my personal data i should
know who is responsible for it.

Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: tbone on January 22, 2016, 06:40:57 am
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny! 

So now we have a fiat gateway, stealth transfers/balances are on the way, we have prediction markets, point-of-sale capability is coming shortly, and soon we'll have percentage-based fees (which I think is more important than people realize).  It seems things are really starting to come together. 
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: kenCode on January 22, 2016, 06:46:15 am
 +5% :D +5% :D +5% :D +5% :D +5% :D
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on January 22, 2016, 06:49:05 am
Paaartyyyy!
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: Ben Mason on January 22, 2016, 07:07:08 am
Fantastic Ronny! Now we are really rolling! You are a legend.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: Chris4210 on January 22, 2016, 07:36:55 am
 +5% +5% +5% Awesome!

Is there a tutorial already how to sign up as new user and buy bts? A for Dummy version for people who do not know about blockchain?

Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: vegolino on January 22, 2016, 08:24:45 am
Thank you Ronny  +5%
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: tbone on January 22, 2016, 08:30:46 am
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny! 

So now we have a fiat gateway, stealth transfers/balances are on the way, we have prediction markets, point-of-sale capability is coming shortly, and soon we'll have percentage-based fees (which I think is more important than people realize).  It seems things are really starting to come together.

I forgot to mention kenCode's mobile wallet, another exciting development that seems to be close to fruition.  By the way, @kenCode, have you discussed with Ronny the possibility for you to include the new fiat gateway into your mobile wallet?  That would be pretty killer.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: mf-tzo on January 22, 2016, 09:58:54 am

@ccedk
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny!  +5% +5% +5%

Can the nanocard that we have purchased a long time ago be activated as well now?

What is the estimation of time that one could send EUR to CCEDK, convert these automatically in biteur transfered to OL and then use the nanocard to convert automatically the biteur from OL to euro and withdraw from an ATM or pay something via a POS?
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: ebit on January 22, 2016, 10:36:20 am
 +5%
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: cass on January 22, 2016, 10:38:42 am
 +5%
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: EstefanTT on January 22, 2016, 11:21:12 am
You are an example of productivism, positivism and effectiveness. Congratulation on your achievments !!!

Don't forget to sleep and eat from time to time !  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: kenCode on January 22, 2016, 12:42:54 pm
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny! 

So now we have a fiat gateway, stealth transfers/balances are on the way, we have prediction markets, point-of-sale capability is coming shortly, and soon we'll have percentage-based fees (which I think is more important than people realize).  It seems things are really starting to come together.

I forgot to mention kenCode's mobile wallet, another exciting development that seems to be close to fruition.  By the way, @kenCode, have you discussed with Ronny the possibility for you to include the new fiat gateway into your mobile wallet?  That would be pretty killer.

Yeah, Ronny and I just skyped about it last night I think it was. I have a feature-freeze on 1.0 so that we can stay on track, but I have added it to the roadmap for v1.2. There is still a limitation however in the Bridges as they currently force the coins accepted such as btc, ltc, ppc, etc into the Merchants BTS (as per Blocktrades). Ideally, I want to save the Merchants from all volatility so if they accept btc, ltc etc at the cash register, it would be best if that coin could be instantly converted into a stable coin such as bitEUR, bitUSD, bitCNY (or OPEN.EUR, OPEN.USD, OPEN.CNY). Bridging into BTS works great (thanx to Blocktrades), but that still has not solved the volatility issue for the Merchants.
 
So, if Blocktrades @dannotestein and Ronny @ccedk both could offer instant bridging into fiat equivalents, it will be an easier sell for us to the merchants. I plan on implementing these bridges into the mobile wallets and all of the POS systems.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: tbone on January 22, 2016, 01:13:10 pm
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny! 

So now we have a fiat gateway, stealth transfers/balances are on the way, we have prediction markets, point-of-sale capability is coming shortly, and soon we'll have percentage-based fees (which I think is more important than people realize).  It seems things are really starting to come together.

I forgot to mention kenCode's mobile wallet, another exciting development that seems to be close to fruition.  By the way, @kenCode, have you discussed with Ronny the possibility for you to include the new fiat gateway into your mobile wallet?  That would be pretty killer.

Yeah, Ronny and I just skyped about it last night I think it was. I have a feature-freeze on 1.0 so that we can stay on track, but I have added it to the roadmap for v1.2. There is still a limitation however in the Bridges as they currently force the coins accepted such as btc, ltc, ppc, etc into the Merchants BTS (as per Blocktrades). Ideally, I want to save the Merchants from all volatility so if they accept btc, ltc etc at the cash register, it would be best if that coin could be instantly converted into a stable coin such as bitEUR, bitUSD, bitCNY (or OPEN.EUR, OPEN.USD, OPEN.CNY). Bridging into BTS works great (thanx to Blocktrades), but that still has not solved the volatility issue for the Merchants.
 
So, if Blocktrades @dannotestein and Ronny @ccedk both could offer instant bridging into fiat equivalents, it will be an easier sell for us to the merchants. I plan on implementing these bridges into the mobile wallets and all of the POS systems.

@kenCode: Maybe I misunderstood, but I think you're talking about conversion of currency accepted at the POS into whatever the merchant prefers to hold.  And that's awesome.  But I was referring to fiat on-ramp functionality within the mobile wallet so wallet users can pull fiat from their bank account to top off their BTS account via your mobile wallet.  Is that something you're looking at doing?
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: kenCode on January 22, 2016, 01:51:57 pm
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny! 

So now we have a fiat gateway, stealth transfers/balances are on the way, we have prediction markets, point-of-sale capability is coming shortly, and soon we'll have percentage-based fees (which I think is more important than people realize).  It seems things are really starting to come together.

I forgot to mention kenCode's mobile wallet, another exciting development that seems to be close to fruition.  By the way, @kenCode, have you discussed with Ronny the possibility for you to include the new fiat gateway into your mobile wallet?  That would be pretty killer.

Yeah, Ronny and I just skyped about it last night I think it was. I have a feature-freeze on 1.0 so that we can stay on track, but I have added it to the roadmap for v1.2. There is still a limitation however in the Bridges as they currently force the coins accepted such as btc, ltc, ppc, etc into the Merchants BTS (as per Blocktrades). Ideally, I want to save the Merchants from all volatility so if they accept btc, ltc etc at the cash register, it would be best if that coin could be instantly converted into a stable coin such as bitEUR, bitUSD, bitCNY (or OPEN.EUR, OPEN.USD, OPEN.CNY). Bridging into BTS works great (thanx to Blocktrades), but that still has not solved the volatility issue for the Merchants.
 
So, if Blocktrades @dannotestein and Ronny @ccedk both could offer instant bridging into fiat equivalents, it will be an easier sell for us to the merchants. I plan on implementing these bridges into the mobile wallets and all of the POS systems.

@kenCode: Maybe I misunderstood, but I think you're talking about conversion of currency accepted at the POS into whatever the merchant prefers to hold.  And that's awesome.  But I was referring to fiat on-ramp functionality within the mobile wallet so wallet users can pull fiat from their bank account to top off their BTS account via your mobile wallet.  Is that something you're looking at doing?

"prefers to hold" - exactly, I want the merchants and the wallet users to have as many options as possible without cluttering up the UI. this has to be as Grandma-friendly easy as possible.
 
For legalities, I would like to keep the wallet from touching fiat itself, BUT the wallet and pos systems can transfer the token equivalents like bitEUR, OPEN.EUR, etc. Now, for the tokens transfered to go directly to someone's bank account at a traditional bank, that will be CCEDK's job, and their competitors... The wallets and pos will bridge/gateway the crypto, but, let the kyc/aml guys connect directly to, and do the actual fiat on/off ramping.
 
Have faith. I am building things and always keeping the competition in mind. "ah hah! they're wallet sucks because it doesn't have blah blah blah". So, I make sure we support blah blah blah NOW, before they get a wild hair and feel like they can get an edge on us. Lots of strategic planning in these products too.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on January 22, 2016, 02:00:42 pm
@ccedk Fantastic!

Let's see another press release announcement go out now so that everyone who comes to Bitshares can use it as soon as they hear about it!

I am sure whom ever read about it the week before would love to see more news coming from Open Ledger!

 +5% +5% +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: iHashFury on January 22, 2016, 02:02:35 pm
Well done Ronny  +5%

My First little EUR deposit is on its way  8)
First of many when the nano card is linked to BitShares blockchain
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: mudshark79 on January 22, 2016, 02:18:31 pm
Finally  :). Now I'm gonna test it and start reaching out for one special niche I have in mind since months.
What I have in mind is tackle small software-developers which sell premium Addons for Joomla (just an example). It is common there to pay via paypal and i guess they will take their cut and I hope that openledger can be cheaper. Developers are all over the world and it's hard to estimate volume but there are plenty of them. As "real" invoices with VAT are normally not available via Paypal also, this should not be a point of concern.

Advantage in reaching out to them should be that you should find a tech-savvy target group and I could imagine that some would maybe use it out of curiosity if they don't have to deal with all the details and without having to deal with volatility (it should not be necessary to even mention it).
Of course  a broken down wallet-interface is still needed, otherwise it will be too much information in the interface.

Then of course interested developers can sign up new users via their own faucet and maybe give a discount to people who use this way of payment processing.

For some special Cases there is one piece of the puzzle still missing:
- What about reoccurring payments based on Smart Contract or sthg?


Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: JonnyB on January 22, 2016, 04:37:09 pm
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny! 

So now we have a fiat gateway, stealth transfers/balances are on the way, we have prediction markets, point-of-sale capability is coming shortly, and soon we'll have percentage-based fees (which I think is more important than people realize).  It seems things are really starting to come together.

I forgot to mention kenCode's mobile wallet, another exciting development that seems to be close to fruition.  By the way, @kenCode, have you discussed with Ronny the possibility for you to include the new fiat gateway into your mobile wallet?  That would be pretty killer.

Yeah, Ronny and I just skyped about it last night I think it was. I have a feature-freeze on 1.0 so that we can stay on track, but I have added it to the roadmap for v1.2. There is still a limitation however in the Bridges as they currently force the coins accepted such as btc, ltc, ppc, etc into the Merchants BTS (as per Blocktrades). Ideally, I want to save the Merchants from all volatility so if they accept btc, ltc etc at the cash register, it would be best if that coin could be instantly converted into a stable coin such as bitEUR, bitUSD, bitCNY (or OPEN.EUR, OPEN.USD, OPEN.CNY). Bridging into BTS works great (thanx to Blocktrades), but that still has not solved the volatility issue for the Merchants.
 
So, if Blocktrades @dannotestein and Ronny @ccedk both could offer instant bridging into fiat equivalents, it will be an easier sell for us to the merchants. I plan on implementing these bridges into the mobile wallets and all of the POS systems.

Nobody is going to offer a smartcoin bridge to and from fiat because their is no real peg and no liquidity. Yes there is some for bitusd but still not enough for a bridge provider to feel safe that he can provide a steady stream at a constant rate.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: yvv on January 22, 2016, 05:11:52 pm

Nobody is going to offer a smartcoin bridge to and from fiat because their is no real peg and no liquidity. Yes there is some for bitusd but still not enough for a bridge provider to feel safe that he can provide a steady stream at a constant rate.

Issuing smartcoins instead of IOU has advantages for a gateway, but yes, there are tricky issues which they need to resolve. Let's see how it goes.

Little bit of bitter into this can of honey. Fiat gateway is definitely the achievement, but setting up a gateway is not enough, let's see how reliable it will be.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 22, 2016, 06:31:42 pm
 +5% Well done.

@ccedk
This is great news.  Congrats, Ronny!  +5% +5% +5%

Can the nanocard that we have purchased a long time ago be activated as well now?

What is the estimation of time that one could send EUR to CCEDK, convert these automatically in biteur transfered to OL and then use the nanocard to convert automatically the biteur from OL to euro and withdraw from an ATM or pay something via a POS?

The question is also how much it would cost, a lot given the spread on BitEur.
Title: Re: Fiat gateway is now up and running on OpenLedger!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on January 22, 2016, 07:00:43 pm

Nobody is going to offer a smartcoin bridge to and from fiat because their is no real peg and no liquidity. Yes there is some for bitusd but still not enough for a bridge provider to feel safe that he can provide a steady stream at a constant rate.

This assumes the bridge will not pass on the cost to the end user. If they do that then the bridge provider is protected and it is the end user that has to bear the cost of the conversion.

We have to remember that these are pegged assets and not fiat. It is a protection mechanism for keeping stable and known value in crypto that is absent in the bitcoin world. To move that to fiat comes at a price depending on he market.

Such a gateway service would in the short term cost more only if the bridge stayed out of the market. They can borrow as they get order at the rates they want couldn't they?