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Title: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: topcandle on January 22, 2016, 02:15:05 pm


http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2016/01/21/why-microsofts-blockchain-service-has-20-companies.html

Using products like Consensys is proving so popular that Microsoft now has 20 other partners waiting to have their blockchain products admitted to the Azure platform.
To meet the demand, Microsoft currently, employs three full-time people at the Times Square office where the project is being managed, labs and showcases are hosted, and partners and customers can gather.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on January 22, 2016, 02:25:24 pm
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: mike623317 on January 23, 2016, 01:41:03 am
 
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

 +5%
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: jakub on January 23, 2016, 10:50:48 am
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

+5%
@BunkerChain Labs , this is definitely worth a worker proposal.
And it's nice that the success criterion is so clear in this case - there will be a payout if the worker manages to get BitShares on Azure.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: xeroc on January 23, 2016, 11:30:13 am
So .. who's doing it?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: btswildpig on January 23, 2016, 02:36:57 pm
i'm not following . BitShares is not capable of second-development on the public chain . So even if on Azure , it would be doing private chain development , right .
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 23, 2016, 04:14:13 pm
I think it's less about spending large amounts of time and money but rather having at least one unique, clearly explainable product or service.

Judging from Emercoin and Factom, whose website layouts look surprisingly similar, a 1:30 explainer video helps too.

For example, I could see Peertracks, if it's all above board/legal, getting on BAAS easily as it's a very specific blockchain product and service that's fairly unique & easy to understand.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: xeroc on January 23, 2016, 05:13:40 pm
i'm not following . BitShares is not capable of second-development on the public chain . So even if on Azure , it would be doing private chain development , right .
Not sure what you are talking about ..
But we could ever have Azure integrate BitShares, or Graphene as private chains, or both
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 23, 2016, 07:20:44 pm
I think it's less about spending large amounts of time and money but rather having at least one unique, clearly explainable product or service.

Judging from Emercoin and Factom, whose website layouts look surprisingly similar, a 1:30 explainer video helps too.

For example, I could see Peertracks, if it's all above board/legal, getting on BAAS easily as it's a very specific blockchain product and service that's fairly unique & easy to understand.

Use these and send them so they can see and USE a fairly unique and easy to understand trading interface---but tell them it is all on a blockchain with Separation of Power, 3 sec tx, Scalability and high decentralization of ownership. Let them try it!


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Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: btstip on January 23, 2016, 07:21:40 pm
Hey fuzzy, here are the results of your tips...
Curious about ShareBits? Visit us at http://sharebits.io and start tipping BTS on https://bitsharestalk.org/ today!
Source: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21115.msg273889/topicseen.html#msg273889
Created by hybridd (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=40140)
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 23, 2016, 07:34:03 pm
https://twitter.com/Beyond_Bitcoin/with_replies

Ok i'm done doing it in 7 min.  Imagine how much more effect it would have it an entire group of people used the tools available to them to do the same.  I mean if they realllly really wanted to have this tech recognized and tinkered around with by some of the people making decisions to use Emercoin...

Emercoin must have had a group of determined people...and they dont have our tools...so do we have any excuses?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 23, 2016, 08:30:24 pm
https://twitter.com/Beyond_Bitcoin/with_replies

Ok i'm done doing it in 7 min.  Imagine how much more effect it would have it an entire group of people used the tools available to them to do the same.  I mean if they realllly really wanted to have this tech recognized and tinkered around with by some of the people making decisions to use Emercoin...

Emercoin must have had a group of determined people...and they dont have our tools...so do we have any excuses?

I think the optimism is great but remember, Azure's BAAS stands for 'Blockchain As A Service' -  What product or service are we selling them? Atm BTS just lets you send tokens back and forth.

REFERRER: Well if you join today and go through the whole process of buying BitShares we'll let you send these currently useless tokens back and forth for $0.2

DUDE: Wow! Golly, golly gosh! Only $0.2 to send useless tokens back and forth! I can't wait to tell my friends about BitShares!

Sending anyone BTS is pretty futile, this is why the referral programme isn't producing results and the daily transaction numbers are stagnant.

Once we have tightly pegged Smartcoins that will be huge. But at the moment this rudimentary PM is the first thing that resembles a product or service. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21104.0.html

"BTS lets you bet on the outcome of the NFL, which no other blockchain does yet!"  That at least is something.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 23, 2016, 08:34:02 pm
https://twitter.com/Beyond_Bitcoin/with_replies

Ok i'm done doing it in 7 min.  Imagine how much more effect it would have it an entire group of people used the tools available to them to do the same.  I mean if they realllly really wanted to have this tech recognized and tinkered around with by some of the people making decisions to use Emercoin...

Emercoin must have had a group of determined people...and they dont have our tools...so do we have any excuses?

I think the optimism is great but what product or service are you selling them? Atm BTS just lets you send tokens back and forth.



REFERRER: Well if you join today and go through the whole process of buying BitShares we'll let you send these currently useless tokens back and forth for $0.2

DUDE: Wow! Golly, golly gosh! Only $0.2 to send useless tokens back and forth! I can't wait to tell my friends about BitShares!

Sending anyone BTS is pretty futile, this is why the referral programme isn't producing results and the daily transaction numbers are stagnant.


Once we have tightly pegged Smartcoins that will be huge. But at the moment this rudimentary PM is the first thing that resembles a product or service. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21104.0.html

"BTS lets you bet on the outcome of the NFL, which no other blockchain does yet!"  That at least is something.

Link me when you have done it for a  +5% or COPPERTICKET

As for optimism...we have the fastest, most scalable chain in existence.  There is a reason for optimism that gets this into these people's hands. And if 9 of them don't get it the 10th will.  Its call persistence and this attitude that sitting and doing nothing but complain about how bitshares needs to be better doesn't bring new eyes and talent. 

Attitude is 80% of success...what is our attitude lately and how do we change it to one that gets us somewhere? 

Why not use the tools we have available to bring recognition of the real achievements BitShares has made?

I just imagine if I posted this on Emercoin's forum(thread)....would I have an army of people helping me?  Or would they say "we have little to offer"?  Something tells me an optimist got Azure using Emercoin...but who knows...maybe it was complaining on their forum that did it.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 23, 2016, 08:44:46 pm
https://twitter.com/Beyond_Bitcoin/with_replies

Ok i'm done doing it in 7 min.  Imagine how much more effect it would have it an entire group of people used the tools available to them to do the same.  I mean if they realllly really wanted to have this tech recognized and tinkered around with by some of the people making decisions to use Emercoin...

Emercoin must have had a group of determined people...and they dont have our tools...so do we have any excuses?

I think the optimism is great but what product or service are you selling them? Atm BTS just lets you send tokens back and forth.



REFERRER: Well if you join today and go through the whole process of buying BitShares we'll let you send these currently useless tokens back and forth for $0.2

DUDE: Wow! Golly, golly gosh! Only $0.2 to send useless tokens back and forth! I can't wait to tell my friends about BitShares!

Sending anyone BTS is pretty futile, this is why the referral programme isn't producing results and the daily transaction numbers are stagnant.


Once we have tightly pegged Smartcoins that will be huge. But at the moment this rudimentary PM is the first thing that resembles a product or service. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21104.0.html

"BTS lets you bet on the outcome of the NFL, which no other blockchain does yet!"  That at least is something.

Link me when you have done it for a  +5% or COPPERTICKET

As for optimism...we have the fastest, most scalable chain in existence.  There is a reason to get that into these people's hands. And 9 of them don't get it the 10th will.  Its call persistence and this attititude that sitting and doing nothing but complain about how bitshares needs to be better doesn't bring new eyes and talent. 

Why not use the tools we have available to bring recognition of the real achievements BitShares has made?

I just imagine if I posted this on Emercoin's forum(thread)....would I have an army of people helping me?  Or would they say "we have little to offer"?  Something tells me an optimist got Azure using Emercoin...but who knows...maybe it was complaining on their forum that did it.

It's fast, yes but if there's no product or service on the chain yet, then you're just able to send shares back and forth fast.

It's scalable, yes, but there's no significant product or service on it for Azure's BAAS to value yet. Even when Stealth is completed it will just be shares that you can send back and forth privately.

Read my last posts, I'm actively spending my time thinking of ways & solution to help BitShares be successful. Most of them revolve around improving and focusing on products and services like Smartcoins and PM's. Improving these actual products and services is what I personally think will get us on BAAS the fastest.

(Once we have lower fees and more tightly pegged Smartcoins, I think the share/tip bot will be a very positive service as well.)

However I don't think sending these tokens around now will have much effect as demonstrated by 3 months of the referral programme. If you think that is a positive activity and beneficial to BitShares, even though I think it's futile, I know your heart is in the right place, so I think that's great and I wish you luck with it as you say maybe every 10th person will be able to see the great potential.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 23, 2016, 10:06:56 pm
https://twitter.com/Beyond_Bitcoin/with_replies

Ok i'm done doing it in 7 min.  Imagine how much more effect it would have it an entire group of people used the tools available to them to do the same.  I mean if they realllly really wanted to have this tech recognized and tinkered around with by some of the people making decisions to use Emercoin...

Emercoin must have had a group of determined people...and they dont have our tools...so do we have any excuses?

I think the optimism is great but what product or service are you selling them? Atm BTS just lets you send tokens back and forth.



REFERRER: Well if you join today and go through the whole process of buying BitShares we'll let you send these currently useless tokens back and forth for $0.2

DUDE: Wow! Golly, golly gosh! Only $0.2 to send useless tokens back and forth! I can't wait to tell my friends about BitShares!

Sending anyone BTS is pretty futile, this is why the referral programme isn't producing results and the daily transaction numbers are stagnant.


Once we have tightly pegged Smartcoins that will be huge. But at the moment this rudimentary PM is the first thing that resembles a product or service. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21104.0.html

"BTS lets you bet on the outcome of the NFL, which no other blockchain does yet!"  That at least is something.

Link me when you have done it for a  +5% or COPPERTICKET

As for optimism...we have the fastest, most scalable chain in existence.  There is a reason to get that into these people's hands. And 9 of them don't get it the 10th will.  Its call persistence and this attititude that sitting and doing nothing but complain about how bitshares needs to be better doesn't bring new eyes and talent. 

Why not use the tools we have available to bring recognition of the real achievements BitShares has made?

I just imagine if I posted this on Emercoin's forum(thread)....would I have an army of people helping me?  Or would they say "we have little to offer"?  Something tells me an optimist got Azure using Emercoin...but who knows...maybe it was complaining on their forum that did it.

It's fast, yes but if there's no product or service on the chain yet, then you're just able to send shares back and forth fast.

It's scalable, yes, but there's no significant product or service on it for Azure's BAAS to value yet. Even when Stealth is completed it will just be shares that you can send back and forth privately.

Read my last posts, I'm actively spending my time thinking of ways & solution to help BitShares be successful. Most of them revolve around improving and focusing on products and services like Smartcoins and PM's. Improving these actual products and services is what I personally think will get us on BAAS the fastest.

(Once we have lower fees and more tightly pegged Smartcoins, I think the share/tip bot will be a very positive service as well.)

However I don't think sending these tokens around now will have much effect as demonstrated by 3 months of the referral programme. If you think that is a positive activity and beneficial to BitShares, even though I think it's futile, I know your heart is in the right place, so I think that's great and I wish you luck with it as you say maybe every 10th person will be able to see the great potential.

Not sure what else to say then. though i must say i disagree 110% with the philosophy of do nothing and wait.  By this logic emercoin shouldnt be used or marketed...but that logic is obviously wrong.

We cant afford to wait for perfection or fear failure.  I guess ill go it alone

P.S.  we do have a service...a decentralized exchange and a value xfer service that makes the other microsoft-supported tokens look far less valuable as foundational tech.

I love u donkey but damn people...sitting on our asses will give us what it always gives us-- a bad attitude and dull outlook for the future.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 23, 2016, 10:57:59 pm
https://twitter.com/Beyond_Bitcoin/with_replies

Ok i'm done doing it in 7 min.  Imagine how much more effect it would have it an entire group of people used the tools available to them to do the same.  I mean if they realllly really wanted to have this tech recognized and tinkered around with by some of the people making decisions to use Emercoin...

Emercoin must have had a group of determined people...and they dont have our tools...so do we have any excuses?

I think the optimism is great but what product or service are you selling them? Atm BTS just lets you send tokens back and forth.



REFERRER: Well if you join today and go through the whole process of buying BitShares we'll let you send these currently useless tokens back and forth for $0.2

DUDE: Wow! Golly, golly gosh! Only $0.2 to send useless tokens back and forth! I can't wait to tell my friends about BitShares!

Sending anyone BTS is pretty futile, this is why the referral programme isn't producing results and the daily transaction numbers are stagnant.


Once we have tightly pegged Smartcoins that will be huge. But at the moment this rudimentary PM is the first thing that resembles a product or service. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21104.0.html

"BTS lets you bet on the outcome of the NFL, which no other blockchain does yet!"  That at least is something.

Link me when you have done it for a  +5% or COPPERTICKET

As for optimism...we have the fastest, most scalable chain in existence.  There is a reason to get that into these people's hands. And 9 of them don't get it the 10th will.  Its call persistence and this attititude that sitting and doing nothing but complain about how bitshares needs to be better doesn't bring new eyes and talent. 

Why not use the tools we have available to bring recognition of the real achievements BitShares has made?

I just imagine if I posted this on Emercoin's forum(thread)....would I have an army of people helping me?  Or would they say "we have little to offer"?  Something tells me an optimist got Azure using Emercoin...but who knows...maybe it was complaining on their forum that did it.

It's fast, yes but if there's no product or service on the chain yet, then you're just able to send shares back and forth fast.

It's scalable, yes, but there's no significant product or service on it for Azure's BAAS to value yet. Even when Stealth is completed it will just be shares that you can send back and forth privately.

Read my last posts, I'm actively spending my time thinking of ways & solution to help BitShares be successful. Most of them revolve around improving and focusing on products and services like Smartcoins and PM's. Improving these actual products and services is what I personally think will get us on BAAS the fastest.

(Once we have lower fees and more tightly pegged Smartcoins, I think the share/tip bot will be a very positive service as well.)

However I don't think sending these tokens around now will have much effect as demonstrated by 3 months of the referral programme. If you think that is a positive activity and beneficial to BitShares, even though I think it's futile, I know your heart is in the right place, so I think that's great and I wish you luck with it as you say maybe every 10th person will be able to see the great potential.

Not sure what else to say then. though i must say i disagree 110% with the philosophy of do nothing and wait.  By this logic emercoin shouldnt be used or marketed...but that logic is obviously wrong.

We cant afford to wait for perfection or fear failure.  I guess ill go it alone

P.S.  we do have a service...a decentralized exchange and a value xfer service that makes the other microsoft-supported tokens look far less valuable as foundational tech.

I love u donkey but damn people...sitting on our asses will give us what it always gives us-- a bad attitude and dull outlook for the future.

I still think BTS needs a compelling blockchain product and service to stand out, which I personally don't think it has yet, but you're right, BTS does have a lot of capabilities, perhaps converting some of the general features described on the homepage https://bitshares.org/ into examples of actual business use cases, similar to what Emercoin did, could help BTS communicate its product and service potential in a more compelling and understandable way. 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on January 24, 2016, 07:28:17 pm
Products would be:
- decentralized exchange
- market pegged assets
- prediction markets (needs development)
- bond markets (not even started yet)
every other stuff on the /technology page that it's not ready yet like subscription payments through scheduled payments and "Dynamic Account Permissions - Management for the corporate environment". I think it makes sense and use that tool for management but we're a long way from that front yet.

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 24, 2016, 10:05:39 pm
Products would be:
- decentralized exchange
- market pegged assets
- prediction markets (needs development)
- bond markets (not even started yet)
every other stuff on the /technology page that it's not ready yet like subscription payments through scheduled payments and "Dynamic Account Permissions - Management for the corporate environment". I think it makes sense and use that tool for management but we're a long way from that front yet.

we have to tell devs about our product as it is. we have some of the best tech in the space...so a good dev with vision sees it and sees they could help...they might buy cheap bts (cheaper than most) and become a loyal bitshares backer!

But first we have to get them to at least touch it.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 25, 2016, 01:11:02 am
Products would be:
- decentralized exchange
- market pegged assets
- prediction markets (needs development)
- bond markets (not even started yet)
every other stuff on the /technology page that it's not ready yet like subscription payments through scheduled payments and "Dynamic Account Permissions - Management for the corporate environment". I think it makes sense and use that tool for management but we're a long way from that front yet.

I would think in terms of products we should think about existing companies and industries that BitShares could replace.

Emercoin & Factom describe what's possible on their blockchain with compelling use cases whereas BitShares.org focuses on the technology which would be appealing to developers, blockchain savvy investors but probably wouldn't make sense to or excite more casual investors directed to the site.

I would probably approach it more like this... 

BitShares  The Home Of SmartCoins

What is BitShares?
BitShares is a decentralized platform that runs on a blockchain like Bitcoin but with MUCH higher performance.
Our core invention is Price Stable SmartCoins which since inception in 2014 have successfully allowed users to hold the value of currencies & commodities on the blockchain. Over the next few years this technology will completely transform the world as you know it and here's why...


Global Payments  (See you later PayPal!)
Stable BitShares SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let you make & receive payments globally for 0.1% which is up to 35x cheaper than leading centralized competitors.

Spread Trading Platform (Short IG Index & CMC!)
Trade popular SmartStocks and SmartIndexes on the BitShares blockchain at a fraction of the cost of leading spread trading platforms and without KYC. BitShares already offers the popular Nasdaq and Shenzen indexes.

Online MarketPlace (Asta la Vista Amazon!)
List & sell products directly & privately on the blockchain & in stable currencies like BitUSD for less than 0.1% in fees.

The Blockchain Economy
Due to volatility & tight margins, merchants have to convert Bitcoin payments directly to fiat. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let merchants keep more of their proceeds on the blockchain, creating the potential to have entire supply chains & a blockchain economy that is independent of the traditional banking system. 

Crypto Exchange (Arrivederci Coinbase!)
Traditional Bitcoin exchanges have high risks of thefts, seizures and shutdowns. BitShares lets you trade Bitcoin and other popular crypto-currency Smartcoins directly on the BitShares blockchain.

Digital Gold & Silver Vault
Physical gold has high storage costs, is difficult to move internationally and has historically been confiscated. Centralized derivatives like GLD have a high risk of default when there is a run on physical. BitGold & Silver lets you keep some of your portfolio on the blockchain free from those risks.

Subscription Services (Hello NetFlix!)
BitShares has recurring payment functionality which combined with SmartCurrencies bring the $30 Billion Subscription Market to the blockchain.

Transparent Crowdfunding (Nice Knowing you Kickstarter!)
Want to start a company doing anything you want and attract global investors without the red tape and high fees? BitShares lets you list, fund and trade on it's blockchain without the 3% processing fee charged by centralized competitors.

Global Remittance (So long Western Union!)
Due to Bitcoin volatility and slow confirmation times, Bitcoin has struggled to penetrate the $500 billion global remittance market. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD with their low fees and 3 second transaction times change this.

True Private Banking (At least Switzerland will still have watches and chocolate!)
BitShares allows anonymous global transactions and the ability to hold deposits in multiple SmartCurrencies, accessible to anyone, anywhere in the world. Your blockchain funds cannot be seized or scrutinized and are not affected by local or global banking crises.

Social Tipping & The Gift Economy
Social tipping is a new phenomenon which allows users on social media sites like Twitter, Reddit & Facebook to give a tip to content they appreciate and companies like ShareBits.io have already been integrated with the BitShares platform to take advantage of this. 

Online Charity
Currency Smartcoins and $0.01 transaction fees make small online charity donations affordable, transparent and fast.
 
Sports Betting
BitShares prediction markets allow private wagering on sports events that can penetrate a huge global market without restriction while also reducing the average 'vig' of 5-10% to under 1%. BitShares has already offered wagering on 2016 NFL games. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3040540/Global-sports-gambling-worth-3-trillion.html

Global Lottery
Lotteries lose up to 50% on running costs, taxes and other expenses. BitShares RNG provides provably fair draws and with ticket sales directly on the blockchain, total running costs could be less than 1%.

Blockchain Casino
Winner winner Chicken Dinner! Volatility is cited as the number one reason more online casinos don't integrate Bitcoin, Smartcurrencies like BitUSD solve this problem and BitShares could even offer traditional Casino games on the blockchain for a fraction of the cost and penetrate the lucrative $30 billion onine gambling market.

Global Personal Insurance
By reducing traditional fixed costs and using the wisdom of the crowd for claim validation, the inventor of Smartcoins is attempting to revolutionize personal insurance by developing the first blockchain based Mutual Aid Society on the BitShares platform.

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: jakub on January 25, 2016, 10:39:39 am
I would probably approach it more like this... 

BitShares  The Home Of SmartCoins

What is BitShares?
BitShares is a decentralized platform that runs on a blockchain like Bitcoin but with MUCH higher performance.
Our core invention is Price Stable SmartCoins which since inception in 2014 have successfully allowed users to hold the value of currencies & commodities on the blockchain. Over the next few years this technology will completely transform the world as you know it and here's why...


Global Payments  (See you later PayPal!)
Stable BitShares SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let you make & receive payments globally for 0.1% which is up to 35x cheaper than leading centralized competitors.

Spread Trading Platform (Short IG Index & CMC!)
Trade popular SmartStocks and SmartIndexes on the BitShares blockchain at a fraction of the cost of leading spread trading platforms and without KYC. BitShares already offers the popular Nasdaq and Shenzen indexes.

Online MarketPlace (Asta la Vista Amazon!)
List & sell products directly & privately on the blockchain & in stable currencies like BitUSD for less than 0.1% in fees.

The Blockchain Economy
Due to volatility & tight margins, merchants have to convert Bitcoin payments directly to fiat. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let merchants keep more of their proceeds on the blockchain, creating the potential to have entire supply chains & a blockchain economy that is independent of the traditional banking system. 

Crypto Exchange (Arrivederci Coinbase!)
Traditional Bitcoin exchanges have high risks of thefts, seizures and shutdowns. BitShares lets you trade Bitcoin and other popular crypto-currency Smartcoins directly on the BitShares blockchain.

Digital Gold & Silver Vault
Physical gold has high storage costs, is difficult to move internationally and has historically been confiscated. Centralized derivatives like GLD have a high risk of default when there is a run on physical. BitGold & Silver lets you keep some of your portfolio on the blockchain free from those risks.

Subscription Services (Hello NetFlix!)
BitShares has recurring payment functionality which combined with SmartCurrencies bring the $30 Billion Subscription Market to the blockchain.

Transparent Crowdfunding (Nice Knowing you Kickstarter!)
Want to start a company doing anything you want and attract global investors without the red tape and high fees? BitShares lets you list, fund and trade on it's blockchain without the 3% processing fee charged by centralized competitors.

Global Remittance (So long Western Union!)
Due to Bitcoin volatility and slow confirmation times, Bitcoin has struggled to penetrate the $500 billion global remittance market. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD with their low fees and 3 second transaction times change this.

True Private Banking (At least Switzerland will still have watches and chocolate!)
BitShares allows anonymous global transactions and the ability to hold deposits in multiple SmartCurrencies, accessible to anyone, anywhere in the world. Your blockchain funds cannot be seized or scrutinized and are not affected by local or global banking crises.

Social Tipping & The Gift Economy
Social tipping is a new phenomenon which allows users on social media sites like Twitter, Reddit & Facebook to give a tip to content they appreciate and companies like ShareBits.io have already been integrated with the BitShares platform to take advantage of this. 

Online Charity
Currency Smartcoins and $0.01 transaction fees make small online charity donations affordable, transparent and fast.
 
Sports Betting
BitShares prediction markets allow private wagering on sports events that can penetrate a huge global market without restriction while also reducing the average 'vig' of 5-10% to under 1%. BitShares has already offered wagering on 2016 NFL games. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3040540/Global-sports-gambling-worth-3-trillion.html

Global Lottery
Lotteries lose up to 50% on running costs, taxes and other expenses. BitShares RNG provides provably fair draws and with ticket sales directly on the blockchain, total running costs could be less than 1%.

Blockchain Casino
Winner winner Chicken Dinner! Volatility is cited as the number one reason more online casinos don't integrate Bitcoin, Smartcurrencies like BitUSD solve this problem and BitShares could even offer traditional Casino games on the blockchain for a fraction of the cost and penetrate the lucrative $30 billion onine gambling market.

Global Personal Insurance
By reducing traditional fixed costs and using the wisdom of the crowd for claim validation, the inventor of Smartcoins is attempting to revolutionize personal insurance by developing the first blockchain based Mutual Aid Society on the BitShares platform.

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@Empirical1.2 , I've always wished we had such a description and you just did it.
Fantastic job.

@cass , would you consider placing it on our website as part of your current worker proposal?
Together with a couple of screen-shots of our GUI, this would be a very refreshing addition.
We could keep the webpage as it is but just add a dedicated section for non-technical newcomers with Empirical's text and some screenshots.

If this is outside the scope of your worker, I think this is worth a separate worker proposal and having it done by you or someone else who has the time.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 25, 2016, 10:57:39 am
Yep.  He gave us a list of selling points we could already have been using.  A great asset compared to us complaining.  Thank you @Empirical1.2.  I know it gets tough sometimes but any of us who got into this thinking it would be easy should have never got in in the first place. We are going to keep going and with people doing valuable things like this we have more we can use. 

Now I still have to admit, however.  I am at a loss how you can compile a list like this yet still honestly say we have nothing we can approach others with...I mean you just basically made all your earlier points in this thread rrelevant with this post (which is respectable actually if you already know it and made a choice to fight the low marketcap demons) :D
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: jakub on January 25, 2016, 11:36:46 am
I am at a loss how you can compile a list like this yet still honestly say we have nothing we can approach others with...
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So am I, fuzzy :)
That was quite unexpected, considering what he said earlier about Azure.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: cass on January 25, 2016, 12:01:54 pm
yep will do .. just so you know .. i'm facing currently some tough private related challenges ... bereavement within my family ..
so please excuse if i'm not online next upcoming  days ..
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: cass on January 25, 2016, 12:03:20 pm
pls create a github issue with infos etc .. if possible
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: cass on January 25, 2016, 12:06:49 pm
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares.github.io/issues/96
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 25, 2016, 12:22:39 pm
Yep.  He gave us a list of selling points we could already have been using.  A great asset compared to us complaining.  Thank you @Empirical1.2.  I know it gets tough sometimes but any of us who got into this thinking it would be easy should have never got in in the first place. We are going to keep going and with people doing valuable things like this we have more we can use. 

Now I still have to admit, however.  I am at a loss how you can compile a list like this yet still honestly say we have nothing we can approach others with...I mean you just basically made all your earlier points in this thread rrelevant with this post (which is respectable actually if you already know it and made a choice to fight the low marketcap demons) :D

 +5% Thanks

Well my earliers statements were because nearly everything on that list requires SmartCoins to be more tightly pegged. SmartCoin to Fiat will also add to the true cost of many services mentioned. 

However it was you talking about the Emercoin & Factom approach that lead me to agree with you that from a marketing point of view you can also focus on the product and service 'potential'.

This is why I spend so much of my time thinking about Smartcoins, I personally think it's at the centre of what BitShares has to offer and getting those more tightly pegged is what's going to make investors and new developers believe that the potential of many of those products and services can be actualized.

@cass , would you consider placing it on our website as part of your current worker proposal?
Together with a couple of screen-shots of our GUI, this would be a very refreshing addition.
We could keep the webpage as it is but just add a dedicated section for non-technical newcomers with Empirical's text and some screenshots.

If this is outside the scope of your worker, I think this is worth a separate worker proposal and having it done by you or someone else who has the time.

Thanks, If you're going to use it on the site, feel free to add/remove products or change the text especially if any of the content isn't accurate/misleading.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: jakub on January 25, 2016, 01:10:19 pm
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares.github.io/issues/96

Thank you @cass
It is so uplifting to observe such a quick transition from an idea to a plan of action.

And good luck in your personal life.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: jakub on January 25, 2016, 01:12:00 pm
Thanks, If you're going to use it on the site, feel free to add/remove products or change the text especially if any of the content isn't accurate/misleading.

@Empirical1.2
I hope you are OK with it.
I liked your text so much that I forgot to ask for your consent first.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 25, 2016, 02:16:11 pm
Thanks, If you're going to use it on the site, feel free to add/remove products or change the text especially if any of the content isn't accurate/misleading.

@Empirical1.2
I hope you are OK with it.
I liked your text so much that I forgot to ask for your consent first.

 +5% Yeah no problem.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on January 25, 2016, 02:42:45 pm
Yep.  He gave us a list of selling points we could already have been using.  A great asset compared to us complaining.  Thank you @Empirical1.2.  I know it gets tough sometimes but any of us who got into this thinking it would be easy should have never got in in the first place. We are going to keep going and with people doing valuable things like this we have more we can use. 

Now I still have to admit, however.  I am at a loss how you can compile a list like this yet still honestly say we have nothing we can approach others with...I mean you just basically made all your earlier points in this thread rrelevant with this post (which is respectable actually if you already know it and made a choice to fight the low marketcap demons) :D

 +5% Thanks

Well my earliers statements were because nearly everything on that list requires SmartCoins to be more tightly pegged. SmartCoin to Fiat will also add to the true cost of many services mentioned. 

However it was you talking about the Emercoin & Factom approach that lead me to agree with you that from a marketing point of view you can also focus on the product and service 'potential'.

This is why I spend so much of my time thinking about Smartcoins, I personally think it's at the centre of what BitShares has to offer and getting those more tightly pegged is what's going to make investors and new developers believe that the potential of many of those products and services can be actualized.

@cass , would you consider placing it on our website as part of your current worker proposal?
Together with a couple of screen-shots of our GUI, this would be a very refreshing addition.
We could keep the webpage as it is but just add a dedicated section for non-technical newcomers with Empirical's text and some screenshots.

If this is outside the scope of your worker, I think this is worth a separate worker proposal and having it done by you or someone else who has the time.

Thanks, If you're going to use it on the site, feel free to add/remove products or change the text especially if any of the content isn't accurate/misleading.

@Empirical1.2  I realize this is off topic of this thread.. but I wanted to get your impressions since you seem to be expelling a great deal of brain power on Smartcoins.. what you think will bring the peg more inline with real world fiat.

Is it simply a chicken/egg situation if liquidity where someone is just going to have to step up and eat losses to try and pull all the other market traders inline to hold their trades within at least a 2% margin of the feed?

Or should the system change to where we put a ceiling on it and only allow the margins to go so far?

Is there something the committee could do in all this to make them work better?

Please forgive me if you have already stated such things and I have just forgotten or missed them and feel free to just cut and paste them if that is the case. :)

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on January 25, 2016, 02:57:10 pm
Yep.  He gave us a list of selling points we could already have been using.  A great asset compared to us complaining.  Thank you @Empirical1.2.  I know it gets tough sometimes but any of us who got into this thinking it would be easy should have never got in in the first place. We are going to keep going and with people doing valuable things like this we have more we can use. 

Now I still have to admit, however.  I am at a loss how you can compile a list like this yet still honestly say we have nothing we can approach others with...I mean you just basically made all your earlier points in this thread rrelevant with this post (which is respectable actually if you already know it and made a choice to fight the low marketcap demons) :D

 +5% Thanks

Well my earliers statements were because nearly everything on that list requires SmartCoins to be more tightly pegged. SmartCoin to Fiat will also add to the true cost of many services mentioned. 

However it was you talking about the Emercoin & Factom approach that lead me to agree with you that from a marketing point of view you can also focus on the product and service 'potential'.

This is why I spend so much of my time thinking about Smartcoins, I personally think it's at the centre of what BitShares has to offer and getting those more tightly pegged is what's going to make investors and new developers believe that the potential of many of those products and services can be actualized.

@cass , would you consider placing it on our website as part of your current worker proposal?
Together with a couple of screen-shots of our GUI, this would be a very refreshing addition.
We could keep the webpage as it is but just add a dedicated section for non-technical newcomers with Empirical's text and some screenshots.

If this is outside the scope of your worker, I think this is worth a separate worker proposal and having it done by you or someone else who has the time.

Thanks, If you're going to use it on the site, feel free to add/remove products or change the text especially if any of the content isn't accurate/misleading.

@Empirical1.2  I realize this is off topic of this thread.. but I wanted to get your impressions since you seem to be expelling a great deal of brain power on Smartcoins.. what you think will bring the peg more inline with real world fiat.

Is it simply a chicken/egg situation if liquidity where someone is just going to have to step up and eat losses to try and pull all the other market traders inline to hold their trades within at least a 2% margin of the feed?

Or should the system change to where we put a ceiling on it and only allow the margins to go so far?

Is there something the committee could do in all this to make them work better?

Please forgive me if you have already stated such things and I have just forgotten or missed them and feel free to just cut and paste them if that is the case. :)

Personally I think BTS will benefit so much from tightly pegged Smartcoins that by supporting the peg we are not really eating a loss overall.

At the very least I think it's worth directing trading fees to dividends for the Shorts to bring them closer to the peg.

I think MAKER may fail because after two years/whenever, if the same market conditions persist Shorts will still be reluctant to come to the peg. (& we will have committed some of our future trading fees to Market Makers for past services rendered so won't be able to use that to incentivize them.)

My current thinking about how to get the Smartcoin peg tighter is here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21125.0.html

However there are people on here, obviously including BM himself who understand these problems better than me.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on January 25, 2016, 03:20:21 pm

Personally I think BTS will benefit so much from tightly pegged Smartcoins that by supporting the peg we are not really eating a loss overall.

At the very least I think it's worth directing trading fees to dividends for the Shorts to bring them closer to the peg.

I think MAKER may fail because after two years/whenever, if the same market conditions persist Shorts will still be reluctant to come to the peg. (& we will have committed some of our future trading fees to Market Makers for past services rendered so won't be able to use that to incentivize them.)

My current thinking about how to get the Smartcoin peg tighter is here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21125.0.html

However there are people on here, obviously including BM himself who understand these problems better than me.

So you want to pay a yield to shorts out of the fees.

Ok... I suggested something along the lines of a vesting balance in another thread. This makes more sense to me though because the vesting balance would be providing smartcoin liquidity at the same time to bring it closer to the peg.

I like it.. thought your analysis of us taking the same trading as polo assumes we get the same fee returns. There are quite a few here who don't even want to see 0.2% trades. Our current fee structure actually is cheaper than that too.

Nonetheless.. if we can set the returns to be relative to the system generated activity.. I think that will properly align incentives for everyone.

What is the downside to this exactly? As in what are the risks to the shorter?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 25, 2016, 04:44:56 pm
Yep.  He gave us a list of selling points we could already have been using.  A great asset compared to us complaining.  Thank you @Empirical1.2.  I know it gets tough sometimes but any of us who got into this thinking it would be easy should have never got in in the first place. We are going to keep going and with people doing valuable things like this we have more we can use. 

Now I still have to admit, however.  I am at a loss how you can compile a list like this yet still honestly say we have nothing we can approach others with...I mean you just basically made all your earlier points in this thread rrelevant with this post (which is respectable actually if you already know it and made a choice to fight the low marketcap demons) :D

 +5% Thanks

Well my earliers statements were because nearly everything on that list requires SmartCoins to be more tightly pegged. SmartCoin to Fiat will also add to the true cost of many services mentioned. 

However it was you talking about the Emercoin & Factom approach that lead me to agree with you that from a marketing point of view you can also focus on the product and service 'potential'.

This is why I spend so much of my time thinking about Smartcoins, I personally think it's at the centre of what BitShares has to offer and getting those more tightly pegged is what's going to make investors and new developers believe that the potential of many of those products and services can be actualized.

@cass , would you consider placing it on our website as part of your current worker proposal?
Together with a couple of screen-shots of our GUI, this would be a very refreshing addition.
We could keep the webpage as it is but just add a dedicated section for non-technical newcomers with Empirical's text and some screenshots.

If this is outside the scope of your worker, I think this is worth a separate worker proposal and having it done by you or someone else who has the time.

Thanks, If you're going to use it on the site, feel free to add/remove products or change the text especially if any of the content isn't accurate/misleading.

@Empirical1.2  I realize this is off topic of this thread.. but I wanted to get your impressions since you seem to be expelling a great deal of brain power on Smartcoins.. what you think will bring the peg more inline with real world fiat.

Is it simply a chicken/egg situation if liquidity where someone is just going to have to step up and eat losses to try and pull all the other market traders inline to hold their trades within at least a 2% margin of the feed?

Or should the system change to where we put a ceiling on it and only allow the margins to go so far?

Is there something the committee could do in all this to make them work better?

Please forgive me if you have already stated such things and I have just forgotten or missed them and feel free to just cut and paste them if that is the case. :)

Personally I think BTS will benefit so much from tightly pegged Smartcoins that by supporting the peg we are not really eating a loss overall.

At the very least I think it's worth directing trading fees to dividends for the Shorts to bring them closer to the peg.

I think MAKER may fail because after two years/whenever, if the same market conditions persist Shorts will still be reluctant to come to the peg. (& we will have committed some of our future trading fees to Market Makers for past services rendered so won't be able to use that to incentivize them.)

My current thinking about how to get the Smartcoin peg tighter is here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21125.0.html

However there are people on here, obviously including BM himself who understand these problems better than me.

and there are people outside this forum we could be gaining interest from so they too can help us solve these probs.  but we cant tale the approach that we arent good enough. 

let anyone interested in deving w/ blockchains see even the basic network capabilities (3sec tx times that get lower as the network grows, separations of power, nearly unlimited scalability...) and they will get interested. 

these are things no other blockchain has...why not embrace them and tell people shamelessely that we need them to join us in our constant journey to find solutions for life liberty and property, and that we are always looking for people to join our cause and offer their solutions. 

the point im making here is that we are sitting on groundbreaking tech....tightly pegged smartcoins or not.  dude bitshares is already so money!  Lets keep working on improving but dont that keep us from advocating and recruiting!
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: donkeypong on January 26, 2016, 05:20:36 am
Welcome to BitShares, here is your new desk.  Nevermind the fact that it has the name Brian Page carved into it.

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind having Brian and his budget now that there's a product he could actually sell.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: onceuponatime on January 26, 2016, 05:53:41 am
Welcome to BitShares, here is your new desk.  Nevermind the fact that it has the name Brian Page carved into it.

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind having Brian and his budget now that there's a product he could actually sell.

And Max Wright doing youtube videos!
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: jakub on January 26, 2016, 10:14:47 am
Welcome to BitShares, here is your new desk.  Nevermind the fact that it has the name Brian Page carved into it.

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind having Brian and his budget now that there's a product he could actually sell.

And Max Wright doing youtube videos!

Right, what happened to Max Wright?
Last time I heard him say he still waited till the GUI was stable.
It's quite nice & stable now IMO.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: xeroc on January 26, 2016, 11:28:29 am
I saw Max during Websummit and AFAIK, he is still very much active behind the scene, though I would appreciate an update from him personally and would love to see some more videos @bitmarket
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on January 26, 2016, 07:55:24 pm
I saw Max during Websummit and AFAIK, he is still very much active behind the scene, though I would appreciate an update from him personally and would love to see some more videos @bitmarket

max is rocking it behind the scenes im confident. 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on January 31, 2016, 12:43:25 am
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-as-a-service-update-4/?wt.mc_id=WW_ABG_MAPPS_OO_SCL_TW&Ocid=C+E%20Social%20FY16_Social_TW_Azure_20160130_350905114

@BunkerChain Labs
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on February 09, 2016, 03:25:04 am
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

@BunkerChain Labs Will you really look into this?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on February 09, 2016, 08:25:30 am
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

@BunkerChain Labs Will you really look into this?

He is busy with committee stuff these days I am sure--which is pretty much a full time job in and of itself from what I see in their discussions. 

As far as Azure goes, I have some leads I am working on with Ronny.  Nothing else to say yet though so I am giving what I have at this juncture with no promises other than "I am actively looking into our options and opportunities". 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: konelectric on February 09, 2016, 11:10:30 am
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/02/08/microsoft-partner-emercoin-joins-cryptos-open ledger-to-deliver-robust-blockchain-services/
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on February 09, 2016, 02:03:23 pm
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

@BunkerChain Labs Will you really look into this?

He is busy with committee stuff these days I am sure--which is pretty much a full time job in and of itself from what I see in their discussions. 

As far as Azure goes, I have some leads I am working on with Ronny.  Nothing else to say yet though so I am giving what I have at this juncture with no promises other than "I am actively looking into our options and opportunities".

@fuzzy those leads might actually lead us somewhere  :P

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-blockchain-azure-marley-gray/

"We want, and frankly our customers want, access to every blockchain. It could be two guys in a garage that forked bitcoin and had this genius idea and people want to try that out. We don’t want to have any barriers. We’re open to all. We help even the smallest of players onboard."
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on February 09, 2016, 03:21:51 pm
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

@BunkerChain Labs Will you really look into this?

I am in the midst of a Bitshares project that can segue into working on this rather well in a few weeks time. We will see what we can arrange then.

At this present moment though my time is totally dominated by seeing that project through. As fuzzy mentioned the committee stuff just eats up time too. Hopefully this latest round for community review will give us a bit of a breather.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on February 09, 2016, 03:46:08 pm
If I don't see any movement on this in the coming month I promise you we will head this up and be the lead to ensure that we can be available on the Azure BaaS.

At present we are tied up with other things atm and this would require a great deal of attention money and time to execute.

I think it will be worth the effort though.

@BunkerChain Labs Will you really look into this?

I am in the midst of a Bitshares project that can segue into working on this rather well in a few weeks time. We will see what we can arrange then.

At this present moment though my time is totally dominated by seeing that project through. As fuzzy mentioned the committee stuff just eats up time too. Hopefully this latest round for community review will give us a bit of a breather.

Nice, will bump this again in March then
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on February 22, 2016, 09:48:47 pm
I am in contact with Microsoft on their Azure Blockchain as a Service (BaaS) offering.  My intention is to create a deployment template for a Witness Node & CLI Wallet on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS.  Thereafter, I intend to investigate creating a template for the UI and also a template for Windows instances.

I'll post a link here once the templates are accepted into BaaS.

Please review the Microsoft BaaS blog posts:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/author/marleyg/
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: clayop on February 22, 2016, 10:42:20 pm
I am in contact with Microsoft on their Azure Blockchain as a Service (BaaS) offering.  My intention is to create a deployment template for a Witness Node & CLI Wallet on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS.  Thereafter, I intend to investigate creating a template for the UI and also a template for Windows instances.

I'll post a link here once the templates are accepted into BaaS.

Please review the Microsoft BaaS blog posts:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/author/marleyg/

 +5% +5%
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on February 22, 2016, 10:55:01 pm
I am in contact with Microsoft on their Azure Blockchain as a Service (BaaS) offering.  My intention is to create a deployment template for a Witness Node & CLI Wallet on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS.  Thereafter, I intend to investigate creating a template for the UI and also a template for Windows instances.

I'll post a link here once the templates are accepted into BaaS.

Please review the Microsoft BaaS blog posts:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/author/marleyg/

Thanks for your work. 1000 sent your way.
http://cryptofresh.com/b/3776025
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: xeroc on February 23, 2016, 11:38:02 am
Please take a look at these docker files:
https://github.com/nexusdev/keeper/tree/nexus/services
they may be helpful for you
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on February 29, 2016, 05:47:25 am
I am in contact with Microsoft on their Azure Blockchain as a Service (BaaS) offering.  My intention is to create a deployment template for a Witness Node & CLI Wallet on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS.  Thereafter, I intend to investigate creating a template for the UI and also a template for Windows instances.

I'll post a link here once the templates are accepted into BaaS.

Please review the Microsoft BaaS blog posts:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/author/marleyg/

Damn fox. Awesome job.

#sharebits Fox 100 BROWNIE.PTS
#sharebits Fox 2 SILVERTICKET
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: btstip on February 29, 2016, 05:49:16 am
Hey fuzzy, here are the results of your tips...
Curious about ShareBits? Visit us at http://sharebits.io and start tipping BTS on https://bitsharestalk.org/ today!
Source: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21115.msg282577/topicseen.html#msg282577
Created by hybridd (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=40140)
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 01, 2016, 02:04:37 am
Brief update:
The Azure BaaS Template for BitShares is complete and I am currently looking for beta testers prior to submission to Microsoft.  If you have access to an Azure subscription and are willing to run the template, please be in contact via direct message and I will provide you the link.  Once I have confidence it is functioning as expected, I will post the live link.

The template uses an Ubuntu 15.10 VM rather than 14.04 LTS, primarily due to ease of installing Boost from apt-get vs. building from source.  Other OS platforms may be added in the future. 

The template has the option to build from github source or use the PPA @maqifrnswa maintains for the community [1].  A huge thanks for his contributions. 

[1] https://launchpad.net/~bitshares/+archive/ubuntu/bitshares

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Louis on March 01, 2016, 06:35:19 am
Good show, Fox  +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: xeroc on March 01, 2016, 08:12:37 am
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Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Samupaha on March 01, 2016, 03:13:27 pm
What's the big thing here? Isn't Microsoft that evil big corporation that produces unusable and annoying software and destroys projects that it "cooperates" with?

I worked for Nokia when Elop became CEO. When he announced that Nokia will start to use Windows I knew that it was the end Nokia phones. I'm still a little bit bitter about that.  >:(
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on March 01, 2016, 04:40:26 pm
What's the big thing here? Isn't Microsoft that evil big corporation that produces unusable and annoying software and destroys projects that it "cooperates" with?

I worked for Nokia when Elop became CEO. When he announced that Nokia will start to use Windows I knew that it was the end Nokia phones. I'm still a little bit bitter about that.  >:(

Community is just being a little schizophrenic atm. On the one hand we want to get some name recognition via other companies that have some association with Bitshares. On the other we are trashing any relationships thus far made with any businesses that are supporting Bitshares at present: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html

(http://www.torontorealtyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Winning.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 01, 2016, 05:24:23 pm
What's the big thing here? Isn't Microsoft that evil big corporation that produces unusable and annoying software and destroys projects that it "cooperates" with?

I worked for Nokia when Elop became CEO. When he announced that Nokia will start to use Windows I knew that it was the end Nokia phones. I'm still a little bit bitter about that.  >:(

Community is just being a little schizophrenic atm. On the one hand we want to get some name recognition via other companies that have some association with Bitshares. On the other we are trashing any relationships thus far made with any businesses that are supporting Bitshares at present: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html

(http://www.torontorealtyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Winning.jpg)

Which other blockchains have a partners section?

Partners that end up being shady/duds can damage reputation especially in crypto where there is limited legal fallback which is why you see members doing a lot more due diligence where 'partners' are concerned but being a lot more welcoming of third party projects that support BTS, so personally I think it's probably a good distinction.

(http://trackur.trackur.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/richard-branson.png)

What do a handful of forum goers do? Have forum polls to make sure nobody who is a supporter of bitshares is ever seen or heard in the one small communication channel (the forum) that bitshares has. Not a plan for winning.

While I agree with the Change from Partners to Third Party Projects, I think something like the top 5 most popular should be directly listed on the forum.  (On the forum under 'Local', I would probably only directly list 'Chinese' and then put everything else in 'Other Global Areas' and save space there. )
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on March 02, 2016, 02:33:54 am
What's the big thing here? Isn't Microsoft that evil big corporation that produces unusable and annoying software and destroys projects that it "cooperates" with?

I worked for Nokia when Elop became CEO. When he announced that Nokia will start to use Windows I knew that it was the end Nokia phones. I'm still a little bit bitter about that.  >:(

Community is just being a little schizophrenic atm. On the one hand we want to get some name recognition via other companies that have some association with Bitshares. On the other we are trashing any relationships thus far made with any businesses that are supporting Bitshares at present: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html


Which other blockchains have a partners section?

Just the 2nd largest market cap one.. 4 sections of them: https://consensys.net/ventures/

OH.. and 2 days ago from the 3rd: https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-partners-with-crypto-facilities-for-xrp-derivatives/

It is basic good business and signal to investors. The idea to remove that from visibility only makes bitshares look like an unused product that isn't good enough for any company to want to adopt.


What do a handful of forum goers do? Have forum polls to make sure nobody who is a supporter of bitshares is ever seen or heard in the one small communication channel (the forum) that bitshares has. Not a plan for winning.

While I agree with the Change from Partners to Third Party Projects, I think something like the top 5 most popular should be directly listed on the forum.  (On the forum under 'Local', I would probably only directly list 'Chinese' and then put everything else in 'Other Global Areas' and save space there. )

That would be a step forward. Though having a place away from the forum that is meant for this type of info would be most ideal.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Pheonike on March 02, 2016, 04:19:41 am
What's the big thing here? Isn't Microsoft that evil big corporation that produces unusable and annoying software and destroys projects that it "cooperates" with?

I worked for Nokia when Elop became CEO. When he announced that Nokia will start to use Windows I knew that it was the end Nokia phones. I'm still a little bit bitter about that.  >:(

Community is just being a little schizophrenic atm. On the one hand we want to get some name recognition via other companies that have some association with Bitshares. On the other we are trashing any relationships thus far made with any businesses that are supporting Bitshares at present: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html


Which other blockchains have a partners section?

Just the 2nd largest market cap one.. 4 sections of them: https://consensys.net/ventures/

OH.. and 2 days ago from the 3rd: https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-partners-with-crypto-facilities-for-xrp-derivatives/

It is basic good business and signal to investors. The idea to remove that from visibility only makes bitshares look like an unused product that isn't good enough for any company to want to adopt.


What do a handful of forum goers do? Have forum polls to make sure nobody who is a supporter of bitshares is ever seen or heard in the one small communication channel (the forum) that bitshares has. Not a plan for winning.

While I agree with the Change from Partners to Third Party Projects, I think something like the top 5 most popular should be directly listed on the forum.  (On the forum under 'Local', I would probably only directly list 'Chinese' and then put everything else in 'Other Global Areas' and save space there. )

That would be a step forward. Though having a place away from the forum that is meant for this type of info would be most ideal.
Those are blog post and press releases. No problem with that. Show us the sections in their forums dedicated too them.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: 当年很厉害 on March 02, 2016, 06:37:29 am
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Brief update:
The Azure BaaS Template for BitShares is complete and I am currently looking for beta testers prior to submission to Microsoft.  If you have access to an Azure subscription and are willing to run the template, please be in contact via direct message and I will provide you the link.  Once I have confidence it is functioning as expected, I will post the live link.

The template uses an Ubuntu 15.10 VM rather than 14.04 LTS, primarily due to ease of installing Boost from apt-get vs. building from source.  Other OS platforms may be added in the future. 

The template has the option to build from github source or use the PPA @maqifrnswa maintains for the community [1].  A huge thanks for his contributions. 

[1] https://launchpad.net/~bitshares/+archive/ubuntu/bitshares
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: betax on March 02, 2016, 08:43:11 pm
Brief update:
The Azure BaaS Template for BitShares is complete and I am currently looking for beta testers prior to submission to Microsoft.  If you have access to an Azure subscription and are willing to run the template, please be in contact via direct message and I will provide you the link.  Once I have confidence it is functioning as expected, I will post the live link.

The template uses an Ubuntu 15.10 VM rather than 14.04 LTS, primarily due to ease of installing Boost from apt-get vs. building from source.  Other OS platforms may be added in the future. 

The template has the option to build from github source or use the PPA @maqifrnswa maintains for the community [1].  A huge thanks for his contributions. 

[1] https://launchpad.net/~bitshares/+archive/ubuntu/bitshares

Ill ping you, I have an Azure account
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 03, 2016, 02:42:41 am
Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 

Background:
I've been in contact with Marley Gray, Director, BizDev & Strategy - Cloud and Enterprise, Microsoft on the on-boarding process for BitShares to Azure BaaS.  We are a pull request approval from being live. 

Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares.  I have a skeleton contained within the metadata.json and README.md files within the GitHub repository [2].  If you choose to tweet this information, please mention @ryanRfox

Gratitude:
Thanks to all those that have tested the scripts and provided feedback thus far; please offer more. 

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/
[2] https://github.com/ryanRfox/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/review/bitshares-ubuntu-vm
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: betax on March 03, 2016, 11:26:12 am
Edit: All working great!

We could include other parameters like in:

./witness_node --rpc-endpoint "127.0.0.1:8090"  --genesis-json oct-02-testnet-genesis.json -d test_net_5 -s  "104.236.51.238:2001"  --witness-id '"1.6.5156"' --private-key '["GPH6JhL..your.signing.key..bc5mWyCvERV3coy","5K..your.secret..a"]'

So when starting the witness we can use different settings, to start a test net, witness signing mode, and / or automate failover re-launch.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 03, 2016, 12:09:16 pm
Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 

Background:
I've been in contact with Marley Gray, Director, BizDev & Strategy - Cloud and Enterprise, Microsoft on the on-boarding process for BitShares to Azure BaaS.  We are a pull request approval from being live. 

Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares.  I have a skeleton contained within the metadata.json and README.md files within the GitHub repository [2].  If you choose to tweet this information, please mention @ryanRfox

Gratitude:
Thanks to all those that have tested the scripts and provided feedback thus far; please offer more. 

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/
[2] https://github.com/ryanRfox/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/review/bitshares-ubuntu-vm

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Quote
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares.

Maybe something like...?

BITSHARES

Azure Blockchain as a Service welcomes BitShares to the ecosystem. BitShares is a Decentralized Financial Services Blockchain offering an industrial-grade asset exchange and specializing in Smartcoins. SmartCoins are price stable crypto-currencies innovated by BitShares that allow users to hold & trade balances denominated in commodities like gold, currencies like USD as well as popular stocks and indexes. They also offer additional tools such as User Issued Assets, Smart Contracts and recurring payment functionality. Their goal is to provide a financial safe haven for individuals & a cutting edge blockchain for business without the volatility.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 03, 2016, 06:03:43 pm
Id rather focus on the speed, scalability and flexibility of bitshares.  Fox is talking to the bizdev of strategy...one hell of a strategy would be to show that, and then tall about the features (like smartcoins) as some examples of what can be done in the future. 

This guy wants to know about our flexibility, speed and scalability more than ANYONE.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 03, 2016, 06:10:34 pm
Id rather focus on the speed, scalability and flexibility of bitshares.  Fox is talking to the bizdev of strategy...one hell of a strategy would be to show that, and then tall about the features (like smartcoins) as some examples of what can be done in the future. 

This guy wants to know about our flexibility, speed and scalability more than ANYONE.

He wants information he can use to help him communicate what BitShares is in his upcoming blog post.

Read his previous blog posts to get a sense of how he has described projects like Factom/Emercoin & contribute ideas on what you think should be included on a similar blog post about BitShares

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-blockchain-update-5/
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-baas-update-2/
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/ethereum-blockchain-as-a-service-now-on-azure/

Saying speed, scalability and flexibility is great but how would you communicate that in a paragraph etc.
 

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: EstefanTT on March 03, 2016, 07:07:41 pm
Id rather focus on the speed, scalability and flexibility of bitshares.  Fox is talking to the bizdev of strategy...one hell of a strategy would be to show that, and then tall about the features (like smartcoins) as some examples of what can be done in the future. 

This guy wants to know about our flexibility, speed and scalability more than ANYONE.
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Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: roadscape on March 03, 2016, 08:24:28 pm
Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 

Background:
I've been in contact with Marley Gray, Director, BizDev & Strategy - Cloud and Enterprise, Microsoft on the on-boarding process for BitShares to Azure BaaS.  We are a pull request approval from being live. 

Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares.  I have a skeleton contained within the metadata.json and README.md files within the GitHub repository [2].  If you choose to tweet this information, please mention @ryanRfox

Gratitude:
Thanks to all those that have tested the scripts and provided feedback thus far; please offer more. 

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/
[2] https://github.com/ryanRfox/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/review/bitshares-ubuntu-vm

Will you be sending him bullet points or a full article?

If BitShares gets it's own post, this is a good layout/format to start with:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/ethereum-blockchain-as-a-service-now-on-azure/

Things to focus on:
 - why do people want it on Azure and what will this help them accomplish/build?
 - brief history of accomplishments, general goals, future outlook
 - what makes Graphene unique; what does it offer that others don't?

We should reuse the nice write-ups here: https://bitshares.org/technology/

IMO for the microsoft audience, these are the best pages to pull from:
https://bitshares.org/technology/delegated-proof-of-stake-consensus/
https://bitshares.org/technology/dynamic-account-permissions/
https://bitshares.org/technology/industrial-performance-and-scalability/
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: tonyk on March 03, 2016, 08:32:53 pm
Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 

Background:
I've been in contact with Marley Gray, Director, BizDev & Strategy - Cloud and Enterprise, Microsoft on the on-boarding process for BitShares to Azure BaaS.  We are a pull request approval from being live. 

Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares.  I have a skeleton contained within the metadata.json and README.md files within the GitHub repository [2].  If you choose to tweet this information, please mention @ryanRfox

Gratitude:
Thanks to all those that have tested the scripts and provided feedback thus far; please offer more. 

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/
[2] https://github.com/ryanRfox/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/review/bitshares-ubuntu-vm

Will you be sending him bullet points or a full article?

If BitShares gets it's own post, this is a good layout/format to start with:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/ethereum-blockchain-as-a-service-now-on-azure/

Things to focus on:
 - why do people want it on Azure and what will this help them accomplish/build?
 - brief history of accomplishments, general goals, future outlook
 - what makes Graphene unique; what does it offer that others don't?

We should reuse the nice write-ups here: https://bitshares.org/technology/

IMO for the microsoft audience, these are the best pages to pull from:
https://bitshares.org/technology/delegated-proof-of-stake-consensus/
https://bitshares.org/technology/dynamic-account-permissions/
https://bitshares.org/technology/industrial-performance-and-scalability/

Stan is uncharacteristically silent on this topic... I take it as sure sign it is happening and he has already written a great article. ?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 03, 2016, 08:51:33 pm
Great feedback thus far. Keep it up!

I intend to submit a blurb in the format of his previous posts. Also included would be bullet points highlighting those I (we) feel are most important to note in his post, should he choose to modify it (likely).

It will be sort, so need to differentiate from previous BaaS offerings and create desire to explore further.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on March 03, 2016, 09:06:04 pm
I would emphasize how we have the most scalable chain out there (according to the info I have and not counting private chains) so far. Also that we plan on tackling financial markets and how our scalability will allow us to do that unlike other chains. Also that we are the biggest decentralized exchange so far (we are ridiculously small but others are even worse lol so that gives us an advantage) according to volume. Would like someone to confirm this but I think it's true according to cmc.


Other than that and maybe even more important, mention that devs can work for the blockchain and people vote for whatever they want to see develop. I think highlighting that is important because we lack people building stuff here like Ethereum and would be really nice to see more people interesting in developing stuff! Maybe mention our chain already has independent workers being paid, approved by the community, etc. to be used as an example. abit, xeroc, cass, svk, etc
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 03, 2016, 10:14:22 pm
Id rather focus on the speed, scalability and flexibility of bitshares.  Fox is talking to the bizdev of strategy...one hell of a strategy would be to show that, and then tall about the features (like smartcoins) as some examples of what can be done in the future. 

This guy wants to know about our flexibility, speed and scalability more than ANYONE.

He wants information he can use to help him communicate what BitShares is in his upcoming blog post.

Read his previous blog posts to get a sense of how he has described projects like Factom/Emercoin & contribute ideas on what you think should be included on a similar blog post about BitShares

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-blockchain-update-5/
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-baas-update-2/
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/ethereum-blockchain-as-a-service-now-on-azure/

Saying speed, scalability and flexibility is great but how would you communicate that in a paragraph etc.

i honestly could devote a paragraph to each.

Speed: Many cryptocurrencies tout their use of the blockchain and its empowering technology, but they still are searching for solutions to transacting in a way that competes with legacy systems.  BitShares is based on graphene, which is the fastest blockchain architecture in the world.  This means purchasing on the bitshares and other graphene based blockchains will take LESS time than credit cards of today, whilse STILL maintaining all of the security blockchain lovers enjoy.  No more waiting hours on transactions to go through.  And more importantly in the information age, no more 10 second waits!

Scalability: (a much larger paragraph potentially could be written here.  Various businesses want their own blockchain and graphene enables them to scale as much or as little as necessary.

Flexibility:  open source, mit license enables companies to build NEW functionalities in a space where not all functionailties are yet even known. Bitshares and graphene enable businesses to fund small portions of development for features they wish implemented and profit from others use of those features.  If you are first to a feature that is a killer feature, you not only have the first movers advantage, but the power of the fastest, most scalable and flexible blockchain technology on earth.


done in on my phone in less than 8 minutes...and this is the first draft.  busniess strategists want to know we let THEM build what they need and our King FEATURE is goving them the knowledge they are building on the most scalable and fastest platform in existence.

or we can leave it to ethereum to get that one in spades too...cause i promise you from watching their "APPLE-ESQUE" Marketing they already plan it.

dont get bogged down in things that are still experimental.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: puppies on March 03, 2016, 11:16:23 pm
Very very nice work.  What is the timetable for this?  I would expect this announcement to provide a nice bump in market cap. 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 04, 2016, 12:22:09 am
Very very nice work.  What is the timetable for this?  I would expect this announcement to provide a nice bump in market cap.

My understanding is the next blog post is to be posted next week. Please continue adding to this thread your ideas thru week's end.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: cube on March 04, 2016, 01:23:55 am
Very very nice work.  What is the timetable for this?  I would expect this announcement to provide a nice bump in market cap.

My understanding is the next blog post is to be posted next week. Please continue adding to this thread your ideas thru week's end.

Great work, Fox!  @Stan 's skill in announcement is much needed here.  Please do include it in our coming Newsletter.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 04, 2016, 01:42:34 am
Very very nice work.  What is the timetable for this?  I would expect this announcement to provide a nice bump in market cap.

My understanding is the next blog post is to be posted next week. Please continue adding to this thread your ideas thru week's end.

Great work, Fox!  @Stan 's skill in announcement is much needed here.  Please do include it in our coming Newsletter.

dont forget @ccedk!
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: werneo on March 04, 2016, 02:49:38 am
Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 

Background:
I've been in contact with Marley Gray, Director, BizDev & Strategy - Cloud and Enterprise, Microsoft on the on-boarding process for BitShares to Azure BaaS.  We are a pull request approval from being live. 

Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares.  I have a skeleton contained within the metadata.json and README.md files within the GitHub repository [2].  If you choose to tweet this information, please mention @ryanRfox

Gratitude:
Thanks to all those that have tested the scripts and provided feedback thus far; please offer more. 

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/
[2] https://github.com/ryanRfox/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/review/bitshares-ubuntu-vm

Can we give him Emperical's "bitshares product description" post:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21115.msg274117.html#msg274117



What is BitShares?
BitShares is a decentralized platform that runs on a blockchain like Bitcoin but with MUCH higher performance.
Our core invention is Price Stable SmartCoins which since inception in 2014 have successfully allowed users to hold the value of currencies & commodities on the blockchain. Over the next few years this technology will completely transform the world as you know it and here's why...


Global Payments  (See you later PayPal!)
Stable BitShares SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let you make & receive payments globally for 0.1% which is up to 35x cheaper than leading centralized competitors.

Spread Trading Platform (Short IG Index & CMC!)
Trade popular SmartStocks and SmartIndexes on the BitShares blockchain at a fraction of the cost of leading spread trading platforms and without KYC. BitShares already offers the popular Nasdaq and Shenzen indexes.

Online MarketPlace (Asta la Vista Amazon!)
List & sell products directly & privately on the blockchain & in stable currencies like BitUSD for less than 0.1% in fees.

The Blockchain Economy
Due to volatility & tight margins, merchants have to convert Bitcoin payments directly to fiat. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let merchants keep more of their proceeds on the blockchain, creating the potential to have entire supply chains & a blockchain economy that is independent of the traditional banking system. 

Crypto Exchange (Arrivederci Coinbase!)
Traditional Bitcoin exchanges have high risks of thefts, seizures and shutdowns. BitShares lets you trade Bitcoin and other popular crypto-currency Smartcoins directly on the BitShares blockchain.

Digital Gold & Silver Vault
Physical gold has high storage costs, is difficult to move internationally and has historically been confiscated. Centralized derivatives like GLD have a high risk of default when there is a run on physical. BitGold & Silver lets you keep some of your portfolio on the blockchain free from those risks.

Subscription Services (Hello NetFlix!)
BitShares has recurring payment functionality which combined with SmartCurrencies bring the $30 Billion Subscription Market to the blockchain.

Transparent Crowdfunding (Nice Knowing you Kickstarter!)
Want to start a company doing anything you want and attract global investors without the red tape and high fees? BitShares lets you list, fund and trade on it's blockchain without the 3% processing fee charged by centralized competitors.

Global Remittance (So long Western Union!)
Due to Bitcoin volatility and slow confirmation times, Bitcoin has struggled to penetrate the $500 billion global remittance market. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD with their low fees and 3 second transaction times change this.

True Private Banking (At least Switzerland will still have watches and chocolate!)
BitShares allows anonymous global transactions and the ability to hold deposits in multiple SmartCurrencies, accessible to anyone, anywhere in the world. Your blockchain funds cannot be seized or scrutinized and are not affected by local or global banking crises.

Social Tipping & The Gift Economy
Social tipping is a new phenomenon which allows users on social media sites like Twitter, Reddit & Facebook to give a tip to content they appreciate and companies like ShareBits.io have already been integrated with the BitShares platform to take advantage of this. 

Online Charity
Currency Smartcoins and $0.01 transaction fees make small online charity donations affordable, transparent and fast.
 
Sports Betting
BitShares prediction markets allow private wagering on sports events that can penetrate a huge global market without restriction while also reducing the average 'vig' of 5-10% to under 1%. BitShares has already offered wagering on 2016 NFL games. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3040540/Global-sports-gambling-worth-3-trillion.html

Global Lottery
Lotteries lose up to 50% on running costs, taxes and other expenses. BitShares RNG provides provably fair draws and with ticket sales directly on the blockchain, total running costs could be less than 1%.

Blockchain Casino
Winner winner Chicken Dinner! Volatility is cited as the number one reason more online casinos don't integrate Bitcoin, Smartcurrencies like BitUSD solve this problem and BitShares could even offer traditional Casino games on the blockchain for a fraction of the cost and penetrate the lucrative $30 billion onine gambling market.

Global Personal Insurance
By reducing traditional fixed costs and using the wisdom of the crowd for claim validation, the inventor of Smartcoins is attempting to revolutionize personal insurance by developing the first blockchain based Mutual Aid Society on the BitShares platform.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 04, 2016, 11:50:57 am
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We could include other parameters [...]
Yes, I very much agree.  Adding additional parameters to the template would allow the end users to configure their VM as you suggest.  I considered this from the outset, but tabled it in an effort to deliver the minimal viable solution to on-boarding a user to the platform (see: fewest clicks).  An enhancement may include multiple "Deploy to Azure" icons on the BitShares on Azure BaaS landing page, allowing the end user to select their desired path.  I feel presenting too many parameters to a first time user would result in a higher abandonment rate, as the need to understand what each parameter does increases their time to a live system.  I had considered removing the VM sizing parameter and deploying the VM based solely on their selection of from PPA or Source, but left the choice to the user.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: betax on March 04, 2016, 12:18:35 pm
Yes you are totally right, a different template for witness, testnet etc will be much better.

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: infovortice2013 on March 04, 2016, 01:58:32 pm
Products would be:
- decentralized exchange
- market pegged assets
- prediction markets (needs development)
- bond markets (not even started yet)
every other stuff on the /technology page that it's not ready yet like subscription payments through scheduled payments and "Dynamic Account Permissions - Management for the corporate environment". I think it makes sense and use that tool for management but we're a long way from that front yet.

I would think in terms of products we should think about existing companies and industries that BitShares could replace.

Emercoin & Factom describe what's possible on their blockchain with compelling use cases whereas BitShares.org focuses on the technology which would be appealing to developers, blockchain savvy investors but probably wouldn't make sense to or excite more casual investors directed to the site.

I would probably approach it more like this... 

BitShares  The Home Of SmartCoins

What is BitShares?
BitShares is a decentralized platform that runs on a blockchain like Bitcoin but with MUCH higher performance.
Our core invention is Price Stable SmartCoins which since inception in 2014 have successfully allowed users to hold the value of currencies & commodities on the blockchain. Over the next few years this technology will completely transform the world as you know it and here's why...

Global Payments  (See you later PayPal!)
Stable BitShares SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let you make & receive payments globally for 0.1% which is up to 35x cheaper than leading centralized competitors.

Spread Trading Platform (Short IG Index & CMC!)
Trade popular SmartStocks and SmartIndexes on the BitShares blockchain at a fraction of the cost of leading spread trading platforms and without KYC. BitShares already offers the popular Nasdaq and Shenzen indexes.

Online MarketPlace (Asta la Vista Amazon!)
List & sell products directly & privately on the blockchain & in stable currencies like BitUSD for less than 0.1% in fees.

The Blockchain Economy
Due to volatility & tight margins, merchants have to convert Bitcoin payments directly to fiat. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD let merchants keep more of their proceeds on the blockchain, creating the potential to have entire supply chains & a blockchain economy that is independent of the traditional banking system. 

Crypto Exchange (Arrivederci Coinbase!)
Traditional Bitcoin exchanges have high risks of thefts, seizures and shutdowns. BitShares lets you trade Bitcoin and other popular crypto-currency Smartcoins directly on the BitShares blockchain.

Digital Gold & Silver Vault
Physical gold has high storage costs, is difficult to move internationally and has historically been confiscated. Centralized derivatives like GLD have a high risk of default when there is a run on physical. BitGold & Silver lets you keep some of your portfolio on the blockchain free from those risks.

Subscription Services (Hello NetFlix!)
BitShares has recurring payment functionality which combined with SmartCurrencies bring the $30 Billion Subscription Market to the blockchain.

Transparent Crowdfunding (Nice Knowing you Kickstarter!)
Want to start a company doing anything you want and attract global investors without the red tape and high fees? BitShares lets you list, fund and trade on it's blockchain without the 3% processing fee charged by centralized competitors.

Global Remittance (So long Western Union!)
Due to Bitcoin volatility and slow confirmation times, Bitcoin has struggled to penetrate the $500 billion global remittance market. SmartCurrencies like BitUSD with their low fees and 3 second transaction times change this.

True Private Banking (At least Switzerland will still have watches and chocolate!)
BitShares allows anonymous global transactions and the ability to hold deposits in multiple SmartCurrencies, accessible to anyone, anywhere in the world. Your blockchain funds cannot be seized or scrutinized and are not affected by local or global banking crises.

Social Tipping & The Gift Economy
Social tipping is a new phenomenon which allows users on social media sites like Twitter, Reddit & Facebook to give a tip to content they appreciate and companies like ShareBits.io have already been integrated with the BitShares platform to take advantage of this. 

Online Charity
Currency Smartcoins and $0.01 transaction fees make small online charity donations affordable, transparent and fast.
 
Sports Betting
BitShares prediction markets allow private wagering on sports events that can penetrate a huge global market without restriction while also reducing the average 'vig' of 5-10% to under 1%. BitShares has already offered wagering on 2016 NFL games. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3040540/Global-sports-gambling-worth-3-trillion.html

Global Lottery
Lotteries lose up to 50% on running costs, taxes and other expenses. BitShares RNG provides provably fair draws and with ticket sales directly on the blockchain, total running costs could be less than 1%.

Blockchain Casino
Winner winner Chicken Dinner! Volatility is cited as the number one reason more online casinos don't integrate Bitcoin, Smartcurrencies like BitUSD solve this problem and BitShares could even offer traditional Casino games on the blockchain for a fraction of the cost and penetrate the lucrative $30 billion onine gambling market.

Global Personal Insurance
By reducing traditional fixed costs and using the wisdom of the crowd for claim validation, the inventor of Smartcoins is attempting to revolutionize personal insurance by developing the first blockchain based Mutual Aid Society on the BitShares platform.

but BITSHARES instead all of this, is BIGGER, just because all of this services and bussines are runned inside BitShares Blockchain, actually FASTEST one in the globe, the only one with industrial SIZE and XCALABILITY, But all of this amazing blockchains are gobernated by DPOS protocol problably be OPENSOURCE can make him that can be considered an STANDARD for decentraliced corporations as Html5 did for www in his time.
time is comming

and micropayments this is huge.

sorry my english XD
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 04, 2016, 02:49:51 pm
I'll offer the following blurb.  It draws on the submissions offered within this thread and seeks to inform a blockchain professional what BitShares is at the highest level.


The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: CLains on March 06, 2016, 01:54:40 am
I'll offer the following blurb.  It draws on the submissions offered within this thread and seeks to inform a blockchain professional what BitShares is at the highest level.


The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

bump  +5%

More eyes on this. Important! :)
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: cube on March 06, 2016, 06:29:32 am
The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

Sounds good.  +5%
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 06, 2016, 07:11:48 am
The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

Sounds good.  +5%

I like this, but fear that we need to be very careful promoting something that as yet is not proven to be perfectly pegged. 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 06, 2016, 08:48:27 am
I like this, but fear that we need to be very careful promoting something that as yet is not proven to be perfectly pegged.
I would appreciate a comment from CNX on the overall message to would-be BaaS users. @Stan @bytemaster or others care to contribute their desires related to this initiative? 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: xeroc on March 06, 2016, 10:22:26 am
The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

Sounds good.  +5%

Great start! If you don't mind I would iterate over it and say:

Quote
The BitShares decentralized business and services platform built on a blockchain. Today, it offers SmartCoins and a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the underlying physical asset of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments and could be interpreted as digital derivatives. The block producers are called "witnesses" and have been elected by the shareholders by means of approval voting. Any pair of assets can be traded in the decentralized exchange and the real-time capable and scalable blockchain technology allows for fast, proper and secure trading as well as transfers. The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in only a few minutes.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 06, 2016, 07:03:22 pm
I like this, but fear that we need to be very careful promoting something that as yet is not proven to be perfectly pegged.
I would appreciate a comment from CNX on the overall message to would-be BaaS users. @Stan @bytemaster or others care to contribute their desires related to this initiative?

I keep finding myself wondering...what is the LOW-HANGING FRUIT that we can show off now: 

Speed,
Scalability,
Flexibility.

Simple.  Concise.  3 words that every biz strategist would love to hear regarding any technology....regardless of whether they are INTERESTED in smartcoins, smartconctracts, or seaworld movies purchased with a blockchain... Then say that all of these things are proven. 

Then I would add a sentence saying something to the effect of: "plus many other cutting edge experiments that have very high potential, but that must be further tested by a larger community to be proven." 

Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: GChicken on March 07, 2016, 12:26:21 pm
Just giving this a bump, we should make sure Fox has everything he needs for the post as this is Big News!
and with all the eyeballs we have from the daily decrypt (18,000+ views on the "How Bitcoin became the Slowest Most Expensive" ep 5 days ago) and the upcoming Maker Ann;  we are already in the back of a lot of peoples minds now we just need to blow them.

If that leads to a small % of them actually looking at some of the cool tech we have under the hood that's worth it my books.

Awesome work Fox!!  +5% x4
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 07, 2016, 03:57:01 pm
The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

Sounds good.  +5%

 +5% Looks pretty good.

I like this, but fear that we need to be very careful promoting something that as yet is not proven to be perfectly pegged.
I would appreciate a comment from CNX on the overall message to would-be BaaS users. @Stan @bytemaster or others care to contribute their desires related to this initiative? 

I hope you get some feedback from Stan/BM. Regards Price Stable crypto-currencies, they're BTS's best innovation imo & have been in circulation, fully collateralised and pegged to their real world counterparts for over 20 months. They're also the number one feature we promote on BitShares.org so we should definitely proudly promote them. https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/

 +5% +5% Again though Fox, really great work, thanks
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Erlich Bachman on March 07, 2016, 04:05:07 pm
We are the 6th oldest crypto in the top 10
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: openledger on March 07, 2016, 09:23:11 pm
make sure to get noticed, start sending bts to all microsoft decision makers telling them thats only the beginning

collaterized assets shared via twitter using www.sharebits.io

which better way to get noticed showing value and whats possible in 3 seconds
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: kuwaitee on March 08, 2016, 05:13:40 am
Any update for Azure announcement ??
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 08, 2016, 05:20:09 am
make sure to get noticed, start sending bts to all microsoft decision makers telling them thats only the beginning

collaterized assets shared via twitter using www.sharebits.io

which better way to get noticed showing value and whats possible in 3 seconds

Honestly cant think of one...there is only one thing better than telling someone about something, and that is showing them.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: tbone on March 08, 2016, 05:34:43 am
make sure to get noticed, start sending bts to all microsoft decision makers telling them thats only the beginning

collaterized assets shared via twitter using www.sharebits.io

which better way to get noticed showing value and whats possible in 3 seconds

Honestly cant think of one...there is only one thing better than telling someone about something, and that is showing them.

@fuzzy, are you aware that sharebits is not currently working?  Can't log into it, at least. 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 08, 2016, 06:04:04 am
now i do. perhaps @Xypher can do me a favor and contact hybrid or kuro in this. i am currently locked out of the skype account which is where i can most quickly contact hybrid and kuro. ill do so now via email, but might take longer.

thanks for letting me know @tbone
this gives me a good chance to at least test to see if it is working for sending...
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: fuzzy on March 08, 2016, 06:05:37 am
#sharebits tbone 5 SHAREBIT
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: konelectric on March 08, 2016, 11:24:10 am
#sharebits tbone 5 SHAREBIT

It should be "tbone" right?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: tbone on March 08, 2016, 11:45:22 am
#sharebits tbone 5 SHAREBIT

Ok, that didn't work.  So it's entirely down.  Has been for at least 24 hours. 
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 08, 2016, 10:46:03 pm
Any update for Azure announcement ??
The Pull Request is pending some minor updates within my template to ensure forward compatibility and incorporate a newer API version/format.  I expect this to be completed by day's end and to then be approved by the release manager for publication to Azure BaaS.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 09, 2016, 12:08:52 am
Below is another revision, as I prepare to send it off for (hopeful) inclusion in the upcoming blog post this week.  I've attempted to highlight many attributes within BitShares, without diving into details.  Foremost, I want to ensure the content is accurate.  As we all know, to understand BitShares is to undertake quite a steep learning curve.  Let's invite those future conversations.

Quote
The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments within a derivatives market.  This is accomplished by sourcing pricing information from world financial markets, then publishing it to the blockchain to inform the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made between any asset pairs therein on a serialized order book to mitigate frontloading.  The industrial-grade blockchain currently operates at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares accomplishes this speed while maintaining transaction and identity security through a unique democratic consensus algorithm. 

BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: EstefanTT on March 09, 2016, 12:33:53 am
What if we post the link of this thread in the poloniex trollbox from time to time with the comment "bts soon on Microsoft Azure".
This should get the poloniex trader exited. Besides the chart of BTS looks like it go rally any time.
We need attention on BitShares, ETH is going down, it could be nice some of that money going into our MC.
Even if it's a pump only created by a pre news. Whatever makes our MC to go up, makes also our funds for development to increase.

Good / bad idea ? I did it this afternoon and got some feedbacks and questions.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Louis on March 09, 2016, 12:36:02 am
What if we post the link of this thread in the poloniex trollbox from time to time with the comment "bts soon on Microsoft Azure".
This should get the poloniex trader exited. Besides the chart of BTS looks like it go rally any time.
We need attention on BitShares, ETH is going down, it could be nice some of that money going into our MC.
Even if it's a pump only created by a pre news. Whatever makes our MC to go up, makes also our funds for development to increase.


This would not be a good idea, because if there is another dump between now and the time that BTS gets on to Azure, people would lose confidence in BTS.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: EstefanTT on March 09, 2016, 12:39:17 am
You may be right. That's why I asked in here. So it would better to say nothing about it and wait until it's done ?
I though price usually rises on the anticipation of a news, not after it ... ?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Louis on March 09, 2016, 12:40:44 am
You may be right. That's why I asked in here. So it would better to say nothing about it and wait until it's done ?
I though price usually rises on the anticipation of a news, not after it ... ?

Exactly!!
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Louis on March 09, 2016, 12:42:27 am
You may be right. That's why I asked in here. So it would better to say nothing about it and wait until it's done ?
I though price usually rises on the anticipation of a news, not after it ... ?

Exactly!!

And we don't even know when we might get accepted, it could be tonight or later in the week or even next week.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: EstefanTT on March 09, 2016, 12:43:37 am
You may be right. That's why I asked in here. So it would better to say nothing about it and wait until it's done ?
I though price usually rises on the anticipation of a news, not after it ... ?

Exactly!!
I don't understand, you say "exactely". So price rises on the anticipation of the news, right ? So we should spead the word ? I don't undersand you, you've just said it was a bad idea ...
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Louis on March 09, 2016, 12:48:28 am
I say don't spread the news until we know for sure that we have been added to Azure
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: EstefanTT on March 09, 2016, 01:04:08 am
I say don't spread the news until we know for sure that we have been added to Azure
Now I got it ;)
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 09, 2016, 03:35:23 am
Below is another revision, as I prepare to send it off for (hopeful) inclusion in the upcoming blog post this week.  I've attempted to highlight many attributes within BitShares, without diving into details.  Foremost, I want to ensure the content is accurate.  As we all know, to understand BitShares is to undertake quite a steep learning curve.  Let's invite those future conversations.

Quote
The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments within a derivatives market.  This is accomplished by sourcing pricing information from world financial markets, then publishing it to the blockchain to inform the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made between any asset pairs therein on a serialized order book to mitigate frontloading.  The industrial-grade blockchain currently operates at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares accomplishes this speed while maintaining transaction and identity security through a unique democratic consensus algorithm. 

BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

 +5% Sounds pretty good to me
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Akado on March 09, 2016, 08:18:07 pm
Any update for Azure announcement ??
The Pull Request is pending some minor updates within my template to ensure forward compatibility and incorporate a newer API version/format.  I expect this to be completed by day's end and to then be approved by the release manager for publication to Azure BaaS.

Is this the right link? https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pull/1364
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 09, 2016, 08:46:25 pm
Is this the right link? https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pull/1364

Yes, this is the pending pull request.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: puppies on March 09, 2016, 09:02:11 pm
is the travis cl failure anything to worry about?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on March 09, 2016, 11:53:22 pm
[ANN]: BitShares now Live on Microsoft Azure Blockchain as a Service (BaaS)

Please reference:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21842.msg284605.html#new

Please note:
I have submitted text to Microsoft for inclusion in an upcoming blog post for BaaS.  It is not clear when this will be published and if it will in fact include a mention.

Request: @xeroc or other admin
Please lock this thread and reference the thread above for the Release.


Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: abit on March 10, 2016, 12:19:42 am
 :D :D :D
Good job @Fox
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: liondani on March 31, 2016, 10:03:11 pm
Anybody signed an agreement? Do we gave to MS any BTS  rights to let us get on Azure?  :o

The developers of NEM are very skeptical about their integration...

We spent a considerable amount of time getting this done. Unfortunately,
at the last stage of our submission we were shown the agreement.
In the agreement, to put our solution up there, requires us to give away all our rights.
This is not quite palatable.

read more.... http://blog.nem.io/status-on-the-azure-project/
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on March 31, 2016, 10:33:41 pm
Anybody signed an agreement? Do we gave to MS any BTS  rights to let us get on Azure?  :o

The developers of NEM are very skeptical about their integration...

We spent a considerable amount of time getting this done. Unfortunately,
at the last stage of our submission we were shown the agreement.
In the agreement, to put our solution up there, requires us to give away all our rights.
This is not quite palatable.

read more.... http://blog.nem.io/status-on-the-azure-project/

What if all these pumps with each blockchain that got into Azure was being backed by Microsoft itself as a way to get everyone to give up their rights so they could get into the network without realizing all the consequences?

Lets be honest.. is anybody here surprised at all.. this is Microsoft after all.
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: onceuponatime on March 31, 2016, 10:55:09 pm
Anybody signed an agreement? Do we gave to MS any BTS  rights to let us get on Azure?  :o

The developers of NEM are very skeptical about their integration...

We spent a considerable amount of time getting this done. Unfortunately,
at the last stage of our submission we were shown the agreement.
In the agreement, to put our solution up there, requires us to give away all our rights.
This is not quite palatable.

read more.... http://blog.nem.io/status-on-the-azure-project/

What if all these pumps with each blockchain that got into Azure was being backed by Microsoft itself as a way to get everyone to give up their rights so they could get into the network without realizing all the consequences?

Lets be honest.. is anybody here surprised at all.. this is Microsoft after all.

I don't understand how anyone would have the authority to sign away any rights to the BitShares blockchain  over to Microsoft. Is NEM different?
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: -banano- on April 01, 2016, 12:19:19 am
"Microsoft sues BitShares!"

great headline!
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: konelectric on April 01, 2016, 12:25:51 am
"Microsoft sues BitShares!"

great headline!
Looks like BitShares CEO is in trouble
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: Fox on April 01, 2016, 04:30:31 am
Anybody signed an agreement? Do we gave to MS any BTS  rights to let us get on Azure?  :o

As the community member that submitted the initial pull request to Microsoft for the BitShares Template, I can resolve this question with a definitive "No, BitShares is not granted to Microsoft."  Further, it is not the intention of Microsoft to 'own' any of these blockchain submissions, rather sell compute time on their Azure platform.  Please note, as an individual I signed a contribution clause with Microsoft prior to submitting the template that basically said I would not knowingly upload anything malicious.  Cass would have signed the same statement when he corrected the spelling in the Readme file a few hours after my original submission.

Please review the Contribution Guide Microsoft provide for BaaS submissions for further details of the requirements:
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/master/1-CONTRIBUTION-GUIDE

BitShares running on Azure remains bound to the same MIT license contained within the source repository.

Respectfully,
Fox
Title: Re: Is Bitshares attempting to get on Microsoft Azure?
Post by: liondani on April 01, 2016, 08:38:13 am
Anybody signed an agreement? Do we gave to MS any BTS  rights to let us get on Azure?  :o

As the community member that submitted the initial pull request to Microsoft for the BitShares Template, I can resolve this question with a definitive "No, BitShares is not granted to Microsoft."  Further, it is not the intention of Microsoft to 'own' any of these blockchain submissions, rather sell compute time on their Azure platform.  Please note, as an individual I signed a contribution clause with Microsoft prior to submitting the template that basically said I would not knowingly upload anything malicious.  Cass would have signed the same statement when he corrected the spelling in the Readme file a few hours after my original submission.

Please review the Contribution Guide Microsoft provide for BaaS submissions for further details of the requirements:
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/master/1-CONTRIBUTION-GUIDE

BitShares running on Azure remains bound to the same MIT license contained within the source repository.

Respectfully,
Fox

thanks for clarification  :)