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Title: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 23, 2016, 10:24:49 pm
Currently listed as "offline". Just trying to do a little comparative shopping with blocktrades.us, but unavailable.
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: noisy on February 23, 2016, 10:32:26 pm
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as far as I remember, bitshares is offline since upgrade to 2.0. I already sent them 2 emails with questions about bitshares, whether they are going to turn on it again. We should show them that there is a high demand for that!
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: noisy on February 23, 2016, 10:34:00 pm
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blocktrades.us works http://cryptofresh.com/tx/2796fbed321ffdd55ae0c8ea3ea416298b42ebf6
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 23, 2016, 10:42:18 pm
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as far as I remember, bitshares is offline since upgrade to 2.0. I already sent them 2 emails with questions about bitshares, whether they are going to turn on it again. We should show them that there is a high demand for that!

that's annoying. any idea what information they need to offer BTS 2.0? can we get one of the techie folks on here to reach out to them? @xeroc or @svk ?
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 23, 2016, 10:43:08 pm
Currently listed as "offline". Just trying to do a little comparative shopping with blocktrades.us, but unavailable.

blocktrades.us works http://cryptofresh.com/tx/2796fbed321ffdd55ae0c8ea3ea416298b42ebf6

yeah, thanks...just bought some through them :)
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: unreadPostsSinceLastVisit on February 23, 2016, 10:53:08 pm
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blocktrades.us works http://cryptofresh.com/tx/2796fbed321ffdd55ae0c8ea3ea416298b42ebf6

both metaexchange.info and blocktrades are run by community members here
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 23, 2016, 11:23:11 pm
Currently listed as "offline". Just trying to do a little comparative shopping with blocktrades.us, but unavailable.

blocktrades.us works http://cryptofresh.com/tx/2796fbed321ffdd55ae0c8ea3ea416298b42ebf6

both metaexchange.info and blocktrades are run by community members here

Cool and i tend to defer to them first, but i also like to cross ref shapeshift mainly bc i respect Voorhees (an ancap)
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: unreadPostsSinceLastVisit on February 23, 2016, 11:27:50 pm
Currently listed as "offline". Just trying to do a little comparative shopping with blocktrades.us, but unavailable.

blocktrades.us works http://cryptofresh.com/tx/2796fbed321ffdd55ae0c8ea3ea416298b42ebf6

both metaexchange.info and blocktrades are run by community members here

Cool and i tend to defer to them first, but i also like to cross ref shapeshift mainly bc i respect Voorhees (an ancap)

I didn't know that, thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: svk on February 24, 2016, 08:06:55 am
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as far as I remember, bitshares is offline since upgrade to 2.0. I already sent them 2 emails with questions about bitshares, whether they are going to turn on it again. We should show them that there is a high demand for that!

that's annoying. any idea what information they need to offer BTS 2.0? can we get one of the techie folks on here to reach out to them? @xeroc or @svk ?

I think xeroc was in touch with them at one point but not sure what came of it.
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 08:48:43 am
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as far as I remember, bitshares is offline since upgrade to 2.0. I already sent them 2 emails with questions about bitshares, whether they are going to turn on it again. We should show them that there is a high demand for that!

that's annoying. any idea what information they need to offer BTS 2.0? can we get one of the techie folks on here to reach out to them? @xeroc or @svk ?

I think xeroc was in touch with them at one point but not sure what came of it.
nothing came out of it .. they just didn't reply ..
I could try reach out to them again and ask what the issue is and offer some help ..
However, I still think we should support our own members first .. but it is a good idea to have more partners anyway ..
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 08:54:17 am
Great news:
Quote
[9:49:59 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: Hello there, I am pinging you here just to get your feedback. It seems you are having some trouble integrating with the new BTS2 API. How can we be of assistance here? What is giving you trouble? Are you still interested in offering a shift for BTS assets?
[9:51:04 AM] jonisjon: Hi Fabian - yes we had some issues after the last hard fork and just need to do some internal testing before we turn BTS back on
[9:51:19 AM] jonisjon: should hopefully be this week
[9:51:36 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: So you are all good to go?
[9:51:46 AM] jonisjon: i THINK so (like i said we need to do some testing first)
[9:52:04 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: That's great news ... was expecting that you are having api troubles ..
[9:52:11 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: (y)
[9:52:24 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: Just don't hesitate to drop me a line if you run into ANY issues
[9:52:31 AM] jonisjon: yea sorry for the delay! we had a bunch of daemons act up on us at once and that always causes a backlog :(
[9:52:54 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: no need to apologize ..
[9:52:59 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: it's great to have you on board!
[9:53:09 AM] jonisjon: for sure, we will notify you once BTS is active again
[9:53:33 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: (y)

TL;DR;: They are going into testing this week!
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 24, 2016, 02:07:31 pm
Great news:
Quote
[9:49:59 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: Hello there, I am pinging you here just to get your feedback. It seems you are having some trouble integrating with the new BTS2 API. How can we be of assistance here? What is giving you trouble? Are you still interested in offering a shift for BTS assets?
[9:51:04 AM] jonisjon: Hi Fabian - yes we had some issues after the last hard fork and just need to do some internal testing before we turn BTS back on
[9:51:19 AM] jonisjon: should hopefully be this week
[9:51:36 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: So you are all good to go?
[9:51:46 AM] jonisjon: i THINK so (like i said we need to do some testing first)
[9:52:04 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: That's great news ... was expecting that you are having api troubles ..
[9:52:11 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: (y)
[9:52:24 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: Just don't hesitate to drop me a line if you run into ANY issues
[9:52:31 AM] jonisjon: yea sorry for the delay! we had a bunch of daemons act up on us at once and that always causes a backlog :(
[9:52:54 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: no need to apologize ..
[9:52:59 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: it's great to have you on board!
[9:53:09 AM] jonisjon: for sure, we will notify you once BTS is active again
[9:53:33 AM] Fabian <xeroc> Schuh: (y)

TL;DR;: They are going into testing this week!

 +5% +5% +5%

you are awesome, good sir!
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 02:21:31 pm
I did nothing besides asking them via a skype group. THEY did the actual implementation etc ...
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 24, 2016, 03:50:39 pm
I did nothing besides asking them via a skype group. THEY did the actual implementation etc ...

modesty gets you nowhere :)
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 04:20:26 pm
I did nothing besides asking them via a skype group. THEY did the actual implementation etc ...

modesty gets you nowhere :)
Yhea .. I should put everything I do into a new thread .. that might bring me the exposure I need to get my workers approved ;)

Still learning how to do the marketing side of things
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 24, 2016, 05:31:13 pm
I did nothing besides asking them via a skype group. THEY did the actual implementation etc ...

modesty gets you nowhere :)
Yhea .. I should put everything I do into a new thread .. that might bring me the exposure I need to get my workers approved ;)

Still learning how to do the marketing side of things

ok i'm a little ashamed to say this, but i've never voted on worker proposals. sorry, i've never been enamored with democracy. How can i start?
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 24, 2016, 06:17:10 pm
I did nothing besides asking them via a skype group. THEY did the actual implementation etc ...

modesty gets you nowhere :)
Yhea .. I should put everything I do into a new thread .. that might bring me the exposure I need to get my workers approved ;)

Still learning how to do the marketing side of things

ok i'm a little ashamed to say this, but i've never voted on worker proposals. sorry, i've never been enamored with democracy. How can i start?
Ever worker has a description that should contain a link to the actual worker proposal. You can see them from the Voting tab in your accounts page.
If reading those proposals costs you too much time you could alternatively also set a proxy that votes on your behalf but has no access to your account or funds.
Any other account cant be used as proxy so you could choose bytemaster, or jonnybitcoin or me, its totally up to you
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 24, 2016, 08:10:29 pm
Ever worker has a description that should contain a link to the actual worker proposal. You can see them from the Voting tab in your accounts page.
If reading those proposals costs you too much time you could alternatively also set a proxy that votes on your behalf but has no access to your account or funds.
Any other account cant be used as proxy so you could choose bytemaster, or jonnybitcoin or me, its totally up to you

Sorry for the newb questions, but how does voting work? do i get a vote per BTS in my account? are only BTS weighted, or BTS-equivalent value of my account, bc i do a fair amount of trading and have maybe 1/3-1/2 of my account value locked up in open orders and inventory of smartcoins/assets at any given time.

also, say i allocate all of my voting power (in BTS terms, assuming that's how it works) to one proposal now, when do i get to change that and consider different allocations in future?

any other details you can give me on voting would be appreciated. i like the work you've been doing, so may just proxy over to you or one of the other active people. What i'm most interested in funding is the development of a bond market. Is there anyone currently talking about that and willing to work on it?
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: pc on February 25, 2016, 05:22:42 pm
Sorry for the newb questions, but how does voting work? do i get a vote per BTS in my account? are only BTS weighted, or BTS-equivalent value of my account, bc i do a fair amount of trading and have maybe 1/3-1/2 of my account value locked up in open orders and inventory of smartcoins/assets at any given time.

also, say i allocate all of my voting power (in BTS terms, assuming that's how it works) to one proposal now, when do i get to change that and consider different allocations in future?

You always vote with all of the BTS in your account. Other assets and BTS locked in market orders don't count.
You can vote for as many workers/witnesses/committee members as you like. You can also vote against workers.
You can change your vote anytime, but the votes are counted only once per hour (or so).
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 25, 2016, 05:33:59 pm
Sorry for the newb questions, but how does voting work? do i get a vote per BTS in my account? are only BTS weighted, or BTS-equivalent value of my account, bc i do a fair amount of trading and have maybe 1/3-1/2 of my account value locked up in open orders and inventory of smartcoins/assets at any given time.

also, say i allocate all of my voting power (in BTS terms, assuming that's how it works) to one proposal now, when do i get to change that and consider different allocations in future?

You always vote with all of the BTS in your account. Other assets and BTS locked in market orders don't count.
You can vote for as many workers/witnesses/committee members as you like. You can also vote against workers.
You can change your vote anytime, but the votes are counted only once per hour (or so).

thanks! seems like a mistake not to weigh total account value, just BTS, for voting. That penalizes those of us who trade actively and invest in smartcoins/assets.
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 25, 2016, 05:55:17 pm
FYI, I have had a talk with Brock Samson of ShapeShift:
 - they are currently stocking up in human resources
 - they are looking into voting. either they dedicate more time on their end to contribute more in the governance process

cheers!
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 25, 2016, 07:53:15 pm
FYI, I have had a talk with Brock Samson of ShapeShift:
 - they are currently stocking up in human resources
 - they are looking into voting. either they dedicate more time on their end to contribute more in the governance process

cheers!

does point #1 mean they first need to hire more people before putting in some effort to re-incorporate BTS? and does point #2 refer to them accumulating BTS and intending to use it to vote for our workers?
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 25, 2016, 09:29:33 pm
does point #1 mean they first need to hire more people before putting in some effort to re-incorporate BTS? and does point #2 refer to them accumulating BTS and intending to use it to vote for our workers?
#1, that was not my impression. IIRC they said they are in testing already
#2, they do have stake in an account .. that account can be used for voting. To run such a service reliably, they NEED to have some stake .. and of course it is their freedom to invest into BitShares (what else would they choose :P)
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 25, 2016, 10:57:41 pm
does point #1 mean they first need to hire more people before putting in some effort to re-incorporate BTS? and does point #2 refer to them accumulating BTS and intending to use it to vote for our workers?
#1, that was not my impression. IIRC they said they are in testing already
#2, they do have stake in an account .. that account can be used for voting. To run such a service reliably, they NEED to have some stake .. and of course it is their freedom to invest into BitShares (what else would they choose :P)

lol yes, of course, what else would they invest in!
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: kingslanding on February 27, 2016, 06:23:19 am
So is it ok to purchase BTS on blocktrades.us now?  Or does blocktrades have to upgrade to the new fork?  ie. Current release Bitshares 2.0.160223.
Title: Re: Why is BTS not available on Shapeshift.io?
Post by: xeroc on February 27, 2016, 09:51:00 am
So is it ok to purchase BTS on blocktrades.us now?  Or does blocktrades have to upgrade to the new fork?  ie. Current release Bitshares 2.0.160223.
Go ahead. the whole network has upgrade by now