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Title: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 22, 2016, 07:31:10 am
(http://i.imgur.com/IJ5RwO6.png)

BLOG (http://newmoney.sollars.com) * WEBSITE  (http://launch.sollars.com)* YOUTUBE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDZ_ewjtQGwF6SWy7Y7YPzQ)

It does not matter what currency community you belong to, we've all wondered aloud or privately to ourselves how we are going to get Bitshares technology past the crypto bubble and to a mainstream audience. In other words how do we get this technology past the crypto world and into the real world of everyday people like your grandma, or your co-worker who thinks Bitcoin's a failed video game (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-12-12/most-americans-don-t-know-bitcoin-while-some-guess-xbox). Yes that world no other crypto currency is influencing right now. Well the New Money project, just might have the answer.

Hello everyone my name is Solomon Adekale (SolomonSollarsNSense) and I am the founder of the New Money project. This is a project that plans to build killer apps and platforms around the digital currency aiming to provide a solid alternative for mainstream Americans (particularly the highly coveted Millennials). That digital currency is Sollars and $ense: Smart Money… or New Money.


(http://i.imgur.com/1cZ8eTN.png)

Mainstream Americans represent $3 Trillion a year in spending and Millennials in particular are the only generation currently seeking a replacement to the high inefficiencies of the old banking system (http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/18/selfies-for-burgers-the-bank-of-apple-and-the-ever-weirder-future-of-payments/#tmhmdj:G3j). That is why this project was started. To take advantage of this fact. When it comes to the crypto world we appeal to the third and final leg of what the larger crypto community has longed for since the beginning of Bitcoin. A mainstream coin that can appeal to mainstream consumer today. Not tomorrow TODAY. We are looking to be the iTunes of this industry. And we’ve got the right roadmap and a doable starting point that makes $ense

Starting Point- Taking The Road Less Traveled...

We believe any project that wants to accomplish something like providing a new currency for the entire world has to start somewhere that makes $ense for a specific use-case. That is why Facebook started with colleges, and Amazon started with books and most recently Uber with taxis. Each platform has built out from their initial starting point to acquire their entire market and other markets consumers never even thought were possible to enter. And we are seeing this in real time with Uber. We will follow this wise road that is less traveled by currency communities but has become a staple in mainstream tech. For New Money our start is in Hollywood with the $200+ Billion content creator market that is ripe for disruption.


NEW MONEY: Hollywood's Revolution Will Be Televised

Hollywood (https://vimeo.com/150389261)
From this start in Hollywood we will expand to other projects and initiatives
 that use Sollars and sense to increase world demand and spur on
positive economic growth.


(http://i.imgur.com/0DxpBGi.png)
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SOLCERTS (token)

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To accomplish navigating this road to mass adoption we want to maximize our independence of the old systems for funding. So we will be using crypto assets to fund ourselves out of thin air. This was a scheme successfully started by Bitcoin and greatly improved upon with pioneering technologies from Bitshares, Ethereum and emunie just to name a few. We will continue this tradition with  SoLCerts (pronounced: soul-serts). We have created SoLCerts to auction off as a way to get early supporters to contribute and donate to our project in exchange for the token. They represent Future Sollars and $ense today.


Ready For The Next BIG Thing?
Then Let's Make $ense


SoLCert Properties
Official Token - Represents a Future Sollar or 100 $ense today
Launched on OpenLedger as UIA (token)

Amount available:
10,000,000 (non-divisible)

Amount to be Auctioned:
8,990,000 (non-divisible)

Amount for Strategic Partnerships:
1,010,000
 
Pre-Sale Period:
Two weeks
Starts NOW

Primary Sold In
Bitshares, Bitcoin, and Ether

Wallet Partners (OpenLedger)
Get Wallet Here (https://bitshares.openledger.info?r=solomonsollarsnsense)


Escrow Management
OpenLedger Registrar CCDEK ApS
Contact Ronny at ronny@ccdek.com or PM ccedk on BitsharesTalk or BitcoinTalk

Use of Funds Raised
100% to KickStarter for Sollywood TV w/ Sollars & $ense
The New Money Project’s first product platform

Technical Development (Partners)
Cryptonomex (https://cryptonomex.com) and Muse Project (http://museblockchain.com)
For KickStarter and Future Development

Learn More About SoLCerts (watch)
Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnjI9jEbDak)  Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJJUOHDKjs)  Part 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfORL9mCiwI)  Part 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj0kAepxJ7g)  Part 5 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kzbxxO19A)
 
Learn More About SoLCerts (blog series)(EXTENSIVE)
Part 1 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-1-vision-sollar-bonds/)  Part 2 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-2-reserve/)  Part 3 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)  Part 4 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/)  Part 5 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-5/)  Part 6 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/thefundingourselvesseriespart6/)

Other Reasons for Issuance
http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/
Part of our SoLCert blog series : All reasons for Issuance


Pre-Sale Auction Tiers
Can Purchase in Increments of 1000 Up to the Next Price Tier (FIRST COME FIRST SERVED)
Each tier is the Price You PAY PER SoLCert in your favorite crypto-currency


1.00 BTS / 0.00001480 BTC / 0.0005309 ETH = 540,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
1.05 BTS / 0.00001555 BTC / 0.0005578 ETH = 450,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
1.25 BTS / 0.00001850 BTC / 0.0006637 ETH = 2,000,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
2.00 BTS / 0.00002950 BTC / 0.001058 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
2.50 BTS / 0.00003705 BTC / 0.001329 ETH = 1,000,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
3.00 BTS / 0.00004444 BTC / 0.001594 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
5.00 BTS / 0.00007415 BTC / 0.002222 ETH= 1,000,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
10 BTS / 0.0001485 BTC / 0.005327 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
15 BTS / 0.0002222 BTC / 0.007971 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
20 BTS / 0.0003 BTC / 0.01076 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
25 BTS / 0.0003707 BTC / 0.01329 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
30 BTS / 0.0004444 BTC / 0.01594 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier
50 BTS / 0.0007444 BTC / 0.02677 ETH = 500,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier


To Recieve Your Pre-Sale SOLCERTS:
Please send your coins to one of the following addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6


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Rules of the SOLCERT Pre-Sale
https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/rules-of-solcert-pre-sale-225fdaf5e58a#.iu1qbnhqz

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Purpose of Pre-Sale and Auctions
SoLCerts have primarily been created for the purpose of allowing individuals to donate various crypto-currencies to this project while receiving these tokens in return. 100% of all funds raised from this first auction will go towards promoting and achieving a successful Kickstarter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0_e-mTEGC4). This KickStarter will be for the New Money project's first product and platform "Sollywood TV with Sollars and Sense Smart Money" It will be named "New Money: Hollywood's Revolution Will Be Televised".

Development Partners:
The New Money project will be partnering with Cryptonomex (https://cryptonomex.com) and the Muse project (http://museblockchain.com) for our upcoming kickstarter and technical development. The combined teams represents Bitshares' community of expert programmers, developers, and industry professionals who understand the intricacies of building new payment systems and working with content. If you are interested in helping on this open source project from a developmental standpoint make sure to contact us. We are raising this money from KickStarter to bring on more amazing talent like you!


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Together lets voluntarily reach a mainstream audience... #Makes$ense
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General FAQs
 All of Your Burning Questions Answered (https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.t7sj1q2fa)

Escrow/OpenLedgerContact
ronny@ccedk.com


New Money Contact
newmoney@sollars.com


New Money Facebook (Follow Us)
https://www.facebook.com/newmoney777

New Money Publication (blog)
http://newmoney.sollars.com

launch.sollars.com
http://launch.sollars.com

New Money Explainer (Subscribe!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjqUQtuLUAk

Medium Blog for Founder (Solomon) (Subscribe!)
https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense

BIG PR ARTICLES
COMING SOON! STAY TUNED!


Relevant New Money Blogs

The Sollywood : Sollars and $ense Story
http://newmoney.sollars.com/sollywood-sollars-sense-story/

NEW MONEY: The Death of Cable - ITS REAL
http://newmoney.sollars.com/the-death-of-cable/

Raw New Money Hangout audio  (starts at 1:33:09):
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/e133
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Shentist on March 22, 2016, 08:46:39 am
Hi Solomon,

great to see that you get started.

Hope you will get some attention, i think you have a great TV personality. So i already invested some money. Take good care and us it wisely.

cheers
shentist
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 08:52:53 am
I have been asked to act as escrow service for this impressive project which I have accepted due to its very interesting and promising potential, and it is possible to follow the whole process of incoming buys/payments, all of which to be settled when presale period is over on the following designated New Money escrow account of CCEDK:

The escrow acount to follow is: https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/ccedk.escrow2/overview

Mind you please, that you may only see it with this link if registered. Otherwise you may go directly to the explorer cryptofresh to follow the incoming donations supporting this auction, which will at the end of this presale auction time result into funding of equivalent amount of Solcerts bought at the time registered and clearly visible on OpenLedger under escrow account ccedk.escrow2

http://cryptofresh.com/u/ccedk.escrow2

As this is one of more projects where the OpenLedger registrar CCEDK ApS is asked to act as escrow service, it seems escrow service, marketing, asset creation as well as crowdsale activities will become a future main activity of CCEDK which I think sounds very promising alltogether. You should not be surprised to see a full portfolio of services and support offered by CCEDK in near future.

Welcome to the New Money project by Solomon, I see it as a project with some great potential, and will be looking forward to seeing it all emerge and take shape  in future.

http://cryptofresh.com/a/SOLCERT this is link to description of asset created and issued on OpenLedger.

For anyone who wish to participate in this presale, please do remember to include your account name in the e-mail ronny@ccedk.com or pm you send me with confirmation of transaction, and funds purchased will then be sent at the end of presale.

All orders will be processed according to the time of transaction mentioned on blockchain. (you can see exact time if you click on the block number)

NB! I will send to buyer of tokens a confirmation message to his account name in the form of memo message with transaction of 1 bts or in case of no account name on OpenLedger just an e-mail of the amount purchased to be received at end of presale, within 24 hours from the time of order and payment, provided you send me e-mail of course. Once again the e-mail for confirmation of orders are: ronny@ccedk.com

How to send funds: You are asked to either use the account name on OpenLedger ccedk.escrow2 in case you are already having account, and could in this case send BTS, BTC in the form of OPEN.BTC or ETH in the form of OPEN.ETH, or if sending from outside before signing up just use adresses mentioned in main thread.

Thank you.

Ronny Boesing
CCEDK ApS / OpenLedger registrar
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: tonyk on March 22, 2016, 09:19:15 am
This is just another example of the

"Doing the things the crazy, the Ronny way"

 [I realy realy hope not!] but judging by the explanation... if I send my funds now, but fail to send an email [or ronny somehow fails to read it on time  ;)] other people will get the tokens before me.... and I will be credited as of the time my EMAIL is read ...and be charged say 2.5 BTS/Solarcert

Tell me I read the instructions wrong!


"Whomever is sending the orders first by e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent, will be given the amount available at the price of the tier in question."

"What English is this is", btw, I never read about any tier being in question, questionable...or mentioned before that statement ...:)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 22, 2016, 09:35:12 am

Pre-Sale addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
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Error: Account '0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6' not found!

https://www.etherchain.org/account/0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Shentist on March 22, 2016, 09:37:13 am

Pre-Sale addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
[/center]


Error: Account '0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6' not found!

https://www.etherchain.org/account/0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6

in the faq it is stated he means OPEN.BTC and OPEN.ETH, so i don't know why this addresses are needed.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on March 22, 2016, 09:45:30 am
别样新钱&SOLCERTS 代币

别样新钱
不管你属于哪个加密货币社区,我们都想向你大声喊或私下告诉你:我们正驾驶着比特股碾过加密货币的泡沫驶向主流受众。也就是说,我们要将这个技术,从加密货币的小圈子推广到现实世界中,例如你爷爷奶奶或者你的工友。现在,其他币都还没有实现这个目标,别样新钱项目将给出答案。

我的名字是Solomon Adekale (SolomonSollarsNSense) ,我是别样新钱项目创始人。这个项目计划建造杀手级应用和数字货币平台,旨在为主流美国人(特别是高度梦寐以求的千禧一代)提供一个坚实的货币替代方案。这个系统的货币名称:Sollars和$ense(智能合约)。

美国市场中流淌着3万亿美元,加密货币领域虽然比特币一枝独大,但我们也有机会跻身而上。

我们制定出了路线图,及一些切入点。任何同类型的项目,要成功,都必须有一个成功的用例。例如:脸书之于校园、亚马逊之于书籍、uber之于出租车。我们将遵循这一明智路线,虽然加密货币还没走太远,但主流技术服务商们已经多次证明其有效性。别样新钱的切入点就是好莱坞的金融市场。

我们将把Sollars和Sense介绍给好莱坞的项目和计划。Sollars和Sense能帮助他们刺激需求和成长。

SOLCERTS 代币
为了实现这个计划,并尽力在法币面前保持独立性,我们将采用加密货币进行众筹。我们已经创建了SoLCerts拍卖给早期支持者。SoLCerts将来可以兑换成别样新钱系统里的 Sollars 和 $ense。

SoLCerts拍卖
在OpenLedger (https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=ebit)发行的代币
总量:
10,000,000

拍卖量:
8,990,000

团队预留:
1,010,000
 
预售期:
两周
现在开始
预售地址:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
 

Wallet Partners (OpenLedger)
注册钱包 (https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=ebit)


第三方管理
OpenLedger Registrar CCDEK ApS
Contact Ronny at ronny@ccdek.com or PM ccedk.aps BitsharesTalk or ccedkaps BitcoinTalk

募集资金的使用
100%用于在众筹平台 KickStarter为 Sollywood TV w/ Sollars & $ense筹资
别样新钱的第一个子项目

技术支持伙伴 (Partners)
Cryptonomex and Muse Project
For KickStarter and Future Development

视频见原帖翻墙https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22007.0.html
 
其他问题
http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/
拍卖规则https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/rules-of-solcert-pre-sale-225fdaf5e58a#.6aebh7bmq

CCEDK托管声明
CCEDK非常高兴地为这个令人钦佩的项目进行托管:整个过程包括,从比特股区块链的众筹支付到最终兑换到别样新钱系统的区块链资产。

托管账户 https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/ccedk.escrow2/overview
如果你还没有在openledger注册账户,也可以在此处查询:
http://cryptofresh.com/u/ccedk.escrow2

托管服务将是openledger未来的一项重要业务,例如为您发行:货币、资产等。听起来,是不是非常有前途呢?

欢迎参与别样新钱项目,这个项目非常有前途,你可以从这里了解信息:
http://cryptofresh.com/a/SOLCERT
solomonsollarsnsense创建出这个资产后,就将要托管的部分发送给了ccedk.escrow2

需要交流可以联系ronny@ccedk.com
Ronny Boesing
CCEDK ApS / OpenLedger registrar
http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=6993.0
http://8btc.com/thread-30970-1-1.html
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_e2700da80102w6i5.html
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 22, 2016, 01:01:51 pm
This is just another example of the

"Doing the things the crazy, the Ronny way"

 [I realy realy hope not!] but judging by the explanation... if I send my funds now, but fail to send an email [or ronny somehow fails to read it on time  ;)] other people will get the tokens before me.... and I will be credited as of the time my EMAIL is read ...and be charged say 2.5 BTS/Solarcert

Tell me I read the instructions wrong!


"Whomever is sending the orders first by e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent, will be given the amount available at the price of the tier in question."

"What English is this is", btw, I never read about any tier being in question, questionable...or mentioned before that statement ...:)

It is very easy to identify which one deserves what, since it is all open in openledger....
I assume they just didn't express it well.It doesn't make  $ense if they will only look the email orders !!!
after all they stated also "This is dependant on time funds were sent."

BUT yes, very bad written!


PS indeed if it is like you said. I am out of this and will stop promoting it.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 22, 2016, 01:31:01 pm
"And the payments in the form of BTS, BTC, and ETH will be sent to the account of the SOLCERT issuer (excluding a smaller escrow fee). The agreed upon escrow fee will be redeemed by OpenLedger/CCDEK."
https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/rules-of-solcert-pre-sale-225fdaf5e58a#.r2a2lcc8w


Can we know how much the escrow fee is? Didn't find it stated anywhere!  ???
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 01:54:57 pm
This is just another example of the

"Doing the things the crazy, the Ronny way"

 [I realy realy hope not!] but judging by the explanation... if I send my funds now, but fail to send an email [or ronny somehow fails to read it on time  ;)] other people will get the tokens before me.... and I will be credited as of the time my EMAIL is read ...and be charged say 2.5 BTS/Solarcert

Tell me I read the instructions wrong!


"Whomever is sending the orders first by e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent, will be given the amount available at the price of the tier in question."

"What English is this is", btw, I never read about any tier being in question, questionable...or mentioned before that statement ...:)

hello @tonyk, yes you  did read it wrong, as always I am almost inclined to say, but I guess its in your nature to post stuff like this, and since its all something I can appreciate, knowing that you mean good for bts, it' all ok.

sorry if not clear, there is a reason why all payments are listed on OpenLedger and on one account, namely ccedk.escrow2. We are this way proving the functionality of everyone being able to follow the transactions on that account, and it is of course based on the time of transaction clearly stated deciding who gets first.

A very nice and easy way, and fair to anyone.

Do you mean you dont see any tier in above mentioned main thread?

Sorry if my english is no good, thanks to you I am able to correct it, so that is appreciated. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 01:56:06 pm
"And the payments in the form of BTS, BTC, and ETH will be sent to the account of the SOLCERT issuer (excluding a smaller escrow fee). The agreed upon escrow fee will be redeemed by OpenLedger/CCDEK."
https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/rules-of-solcert-pre-sale-225fdaf5e58a#.r2a2lcc8w


Can we know how much the escrow fee is? Didn't find it stated anywhere!  ???

it's 0,5%
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 01:58:01 pm
This is just another example of the

"Doing the things the crazy, the Ronny way"

 [I realy realy hope not!] but judging by the explanation... if I send my funds now, but fail to send an email [or ronny somehow fails to read it on time  ;)] other people will get the tokens before me.... and I will be credited as of the time my EMAIL is read ...and be charged say 2.5 BTS/Solarcert

Tell me I read the instructions wrong!


"Whomever is sending the orders first by e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent, will be given the amount available at the price of the tier in question."

"What English is this is", btw, I never read about any tier being in question, questionable...or mentioned before that statement ...:)

It is very easy to identify which one deserves what, since it is all open in openledger....
I assume they just didn't express it well.It doesn't make  $ense if they will only look the email orders !!!
after all they stated also "This is dependant on time funds were sent."

BUT yes, very bad written!


PS indeed if it is like you said. I am out of this and will stop promoting it.

thanks @liondani, did not see this. late hours may have caused this to sound strange. I would appreciate any suggestion on how to rewrite it in order for it to show correctly, then Solomon can do this a.s.a.p. today.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 02:01:42 pm

Pre-Sale addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
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Error: Account '0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6' not found!

https://www.etherchain.org/account/0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6

in the faq it is stated he means OPEN.BTC and OPEN.ETH, so i don't know why this addresses are needed.

It was actually meant for people not yet used to working with the assets on OpenLedger, therefore allowing them to know what they are paying, and they are this way sending btc or et directly onto the escrow account. One less step for a new user we thought was a nice move, but can see it might be confusing to people already using the platform.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 02:09:58 pm

Pre-Sale addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
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Error: Account '0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6' not found!

https://www.etherchain.org/account/0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6

paging @dannotestein . I thought the issues of ETH was fixed?? At least I see the adress working for some, why then this one is not? This is adress generated as deposit adress of escrow account ccedk.escrow2 and we need this fixed urgently in order to have no problems with future ETH transfers, pls confirm Dan!!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 22, 2016, 02:21:06 pm
I would appreciate any suggestion on how to rewrite it in order for it to show correctly, then Solomon can do this a.s.a.p. today.

My English is very bad but I think this make more $ense...

"It is a first come — first served auction. How much SOLCERT tokens will be given is dependant on time funds were sent. It will be given the amount available at the price of the particular tier.   If funds will only allow part of a tier, the remaining amount is used in next one.Please e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent.Each buyer will receive in return a e-mail confirmation of amount reserved for final execution on end of presale."



Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 02:39:57 pm
I would appreciate any suggestion on how to rewrite it in order for it to show correctly, then Solomon can do this a.s.a.p. today.

My English is very bad but I think this make more $ense...

"It is a first come — first served auction. How much SOLCERT tokens will be given is dependant on time funds were sent. It will be given the amount available at the price of the particular tier.   If funds will only allow part of a tier, the remaining amount is used in next one.Please e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent.Each buyer will receive in return a e-mail confirmation of amount reserved for final execution on end of presale."

Perfect, Solomon, can you adjust accordingly in text, it does sound better now, thanks.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: rajarush on March 22, 2016, 02:41:31 pm
Am I in year 2012? I need to send emails or pm with tx id to claim? Lol
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 22, 2016, 03:02:06 pm
Am I in year 2012? I need to send emails or pm with tx id to claim? Lol

I reality you dont need to, due to all being clear and transparent here on openledger, it is simply a service to confirm to you how much you will receive at the time of sending funds to all token holders.

If you dont need that service, no problem, you will receive based on when an what you transferred according tiers presented, so really not a big issue.

There are people out there who could have an interest in this project but no idea how to go about it, so the service is for the ones unsure or the people who likes to have e-mail confirmation.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on March 22, 2016, 03:26:27 pm
 +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: CLains on March 22, 2016, 03:55:07 pm
Looks interesting.. Throwing a few BTS in there :D

Bold move using the funds to do a Kickstarter..   +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 22, 2016, 04:35:16 pm
Hi Solomon,

great to see that you get started.

Hope you will get some attention, i think you have a great TV personality. So i already invested some money. Take good care and us it wisely.

cheers
shentist

Thank you Shentist for believing in this project and me. You will not regret it

Looks interesting.. Throwing a few BTS in there :D

Bold move using the funds to do a Kickstarter..   +5%

Thanks CLains! Easiest way to reach a mainstream audience and not talk about it. I'm tired of the talking. Lets do it! Glad to have you on board :D

I would appreciate any suggestion on how to rewrite it in order for it to show correctly, then Solomon can do this a.s.a.p. today.

My English is very bad but I think this make more $ense...

"It is a first come — first served auction. How much SOLCERT tokens will be given is dependant on time funds were sent. It will be given the amount available at the price of the particular tier.   If funds will only allow part of a tier, the remaining amount is used in next one.Please e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent.Each buyer will receive in return a e-mail confirmation of amount reserved for final execution on end of presale."

Perfect, Solomon, can you adjust accordingly in text, it does sound better now, thanks.

Sure I will adjust it. Where was the original text that needs to be changed located in? The Medium blog?

Finally Ebit thank you for the translation. That should help a lot.  :D
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: fuzzy on March 22, 2016, 05:52:42 pm
Looks like a good start!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 22, 2016, 06:22:14 pm
Quote
"It is a first come — first served auction. How much SOLCERT tokens will be given is dependant on time funds were sent. It will be given the amount available at the price of the particular tier.   If funds will only allow part of a tier, the remaining amount is used in next one.Please e-mail to escrow holder Ronny Boesing ronny@ccedk.com including transaction ID of when funds have been sent.Each buyer will receive in return a e-mail confirmation of amount reserved for final execution on end of presale."

Perfect, Solomon, can you adjust accordingly in text, it does sound better now, thanks.

Quote
Sure I will adjust it. Where was the original text that needs to be changed located in? The Medium blog?

https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/rules-of-solcert-pre-sale-225fdaf5e58a#.fb26o4no0

paragraph 3)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: dannotestein on March 22, 2016, 06:41:12 pm

Pre-Sale addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
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Error: Account '0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6' not found!

https://www.etherchain.org/account/0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
The ETHER address is fine.  ETHER addresses don't contain any checksum so there's no way to verify if an address is valid (assuming it's a valid hexadecimal number) other than to see if there have been any transactions to that address. Apparently etherchain.org takes the position that an address isn't valid till it sees such a transaction. For a contrarian view on that (one I share), see http://etherscan.io/address/0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6

Anyways, I think it's safe to assume that if someone actually sends some ether there, etherchain.org will decide it's a valid address...
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 22, 2016, 08:35:48 pm
Looks like a good start!

Sure does  :D Now its time to build  :P Thank you to all who are supporting. Doing well so far. Lets continue to bring this message of a mainstream currency powered by Bitshares Technology to the rest of the community. It only helps us all out if we succeed. Remember that. Its time to move beyond expecting only ByteMaster to give us a vision of where this wonderful technology can go and who it can reach. Lets support the community members trying to bring this where no other has taken it. Directly to the people.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 22, 2016, 09:25:53 pm
Anyways, I think it's safe to assume that if someone actually sends some ether there, etherchain.org will decide it's a valid address...

You are right!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 22, 2016, 09:29:07 pm
Anyways, I think it's safe to assume that if someone actually sends some ether there, etherchain.org will decide it's a valid address...

You are right!

That's great to know. Thanks liondani for your help.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on March 23, 2016, 01:34:56 am
In China ,we could using youku.com to see video.NO youtobe.com , No facebook , No twitter , NO soundcloud.com.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 23, 2016, 02:33:50 am
In China ,we could using youku.com to see video.NO youtobe.com , No facebook , No twitter , NO soundcloud.com.

@ebit  does this mean I should upload the videos to Youku.com?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on March 23, 2016, 07:11:17 am
 +5% yes
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: iHashFury on March 23, 2016, 12:57:32 pm

To receive your Pre-Sale SOLCERT's
please send your coins to one of the following addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
Please make your "call to action" clearer on the OP
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 23, 2016, 02:15:23 pm
Quote
SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/

So these 10 million SolCerts represent 0.001% of a total 1 trillion bond fund?

(I don't understand bonds very well, to someone more familiar with limited crypto tokens, this pre-sale seems to be for a very small amount of future supply?)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 23, 2016, 02:46:04 pm
+5% yes

@ebit if I upload will you be able to distribute the videos to

Quote
SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/

So these 10 million SolCerts represent 0.001% of a total 1 trillion bond fund?

(I don't understand bonds very well, to someone more familiar with limited crypto tokens, this pre-sale seems to be for a very small amount of future supply?)


Thanks for diving deep.  ;D Yes 1 SoLCert essentially equals one future Sollar through the Sollar Bond. But that is too complicated to explain to most people. At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin as we are trying to be a currency with it and not a commodity like Bitcoin or Bitshares. Our commodity is SOLCERTS and Sollar Bonds. That is more like Bitshares or a speculative asset. One can use SoLCerts/Sollar Bonds to speculate on the value of the future Sollar against the future Dollar. If you believe the Dollar will be here forever then no need to follow this project. If you dont then consider the vision and roadmap of our project. Read part 3 of that series. (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)

Check out our General FAQs section too: https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.y7lew7tfa

Whether Sollars supply gets to 1 Trillion or 60 Trillion like the Dollars market cap will all depend on adoption of the currency by regular everyday consumers. It is my 10 year goal to get it to 1 Trillion. And to start on that path is with SOLCERTS and Millennials. We are issuing assets the same way Bitcoin, the US government and Bitshares issued assets to fund itself out of thin air. This is no different except that we are creating a mainstream alternative with a brand to actually take on the Dollar. So if you believe in a stable alternative to the Dollar then believe in this... or not. Either way people participating in our pre-sale are essentially buying into that mainstream currency supply now through SOLCERTS. And if we are successful you are going to be glad you did. Hope this info helps.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 23, 2016, 02:46:51 pm

To receive your Pre-Sale SOLCERT's
please send your coins to one of the following addresses:

BTS - ccedk.escrow2

BTC - 12MsrWqBFGt3g4NSciXGW56KLbh35Jm99w

ETHER - 0xef8c0106069be72b0b92184ebab893fa6dd0a3b6
Please make your "call to action" clearer on the OP

Thank you iHashFury. Will do!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 23, 2016, 03:10:07 pm
+5% yes

@ebit if I upload will you be able to distribute the videos to

Quote
SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/

So these 10 million SolCerts represent 0.001% of a total 1 trillion bond fund?

(I don't understand bonds very well, to someone more familiar with limited crypto tokens, this pre-sale seems to be for a very small amount of future supply?)


Thanks for diving deep.  ;D Yes 1 SoLCert essentially equals one future Sollar through the Sollar Bond. But that is too complicated to explain to most people. At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin as we are trying to be a currency with it and not a commodity like Bitcoin or Bitshares. Our commodity is SOLCERTS and Sollar Bonds. That is more like Bitshares or a speculative asset. One can use SoLCerts/Sollar Bonds to speculate on the value of the future Sollar against the future Dollar. If you believe the Dollar will be here forever then no need to follow this project. If you dont then consider the vision and roadmap of our project. Read part 3 of that series. (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)

Check out our General FAQs section too: https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.y7lew7tfa

Whether Sollars supply gets to 1 Trillion or 60 Trillion like the Dollars market cap will all depend on adoption of the currency by regular everyday consumers. It is my 10 year goal to get it to 1 Trillion. And to start on that path is with SOLCERTS and Millennials. We are issuing assets the same way Bitcoin, the US government and Bitshares issued assets to fund itself out of thin air. This is no different except that we are creating a mainstream alternative with a brand to actually take on the Dollar. So if you believe in a stable alternative to the Dollar then believe in this... or not. Either way people participating in our pre-sale are essentially buying into that mainstream currency supply now through SOLCERTS. And if we are successful you are going to be glad you did. Hope this info helps.

Thanks, I appreciate the explanation.

Quote
At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Given that a SOLCERT is a future Sollar and Sollars will be unlimited in supply, I'm still uncertain how the value of my investment will dramatically increase through adoption but I will look into it more at the links provided & hopefully understand it better.

The first project that you will use to bootstrap Sollars, a media content platform that among other things leverage's micro-payments to enable content creators to optimally price their product at lower price points & for less fees/overhead than has previously been possible thereby potentially increasing profits &/or creating entirely new markets for some content does sound promising though.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: donkeypong on March 23, 2016, 05:29:21 pm
This looks promising, but I'd like to have more understanding on what the future projects will involve. It looks like this token is a springboard to a Kickstarter fundraiser, which is a springboard to videos, which accomplish what? What is anyone being promised here other than tokens that will be supported by videos? Your videos so far are great; I'm really impressed, and I mean that. But I just don't see the value of donating to acquire tokens in...what? Will there eventually be a product or service involved that carries some independent value? Or is this essentially a PR campaign for BitShares or for SOLCERT?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 23, 2016, 06:15:40 pm
This looks promising, but I'd like to have more understanding on what the future projects will involve. It looks like this token is a springboard to a Kickstarter fundraiser, which is a springboard to videos, which accomplish what? What is anyone being promised here other than tokens that will be supported by videos? Your videos so far are great; I'm really impressed, and I mean that. But I just don't see the value of donating to acquire tokens in...what? Will there eventually be a product or service involved that carries some independent value? Or is this essentially a PR campaign for BitShares or for SOLCERT?

Thank you donkeypong for your interest in the project. Means a lot  :D

Please start here in the General FAQs section for more information on this project: https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.y7lew7tfa

After you check out the General FAQs section you can check out even more information below. Hope this helps.

Learn More About SoLCerts (watch)
Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnjI9jEbDak)  Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJJUOHDKjs)  Part 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfORL9mCiwI)  Part 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj0kAepxJ7g)  Part 5 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kzbxxO19A)
 
Learn More About SoLCerts (blog series)(EXTENSIVE)
Part 1 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-1-vision-sollar-bonds/)  Part 2 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-2-reserve/)  Part 3 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)  Part 4 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/)  Part 5 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-5/)  Part 6 (http://newmoney.sollars.com/thefundingourselvesseriespart6/)

Other Reasons for Issuance
http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 23, 2016, 09:05:51 pm
Sollywood TV’s New Money Project Aims to Disrupt Cable TV Sector Using Blockchain Technology
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/03/23/sollywood-aims-to-disrupt-cable-tv/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 23, 2016, 11:04:51 pm
@ccedk

"BTS - ccedk.escrow2"

No memo required? Do I need to contact you prior to sending 50,000 BTS?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 23, 2016, 11:11:37 pm
@ccedk

"BTS - ccedk.escrow2"

No memo required? Do I need to contact you prior to sending 50,000 BTS?

no
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 23, 2016, 11:18:07 pm
@ccedk

"BTS - ccedk.escrow2"

No memo required? Do I need to contact you prior to sending 50,000 BTS?

no

Thank you for the quick response, just wanted to double check.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: yvv on March 23, 2016, 11:20:51 pm
Cool video. Watching it creates a strong desire to invite authors to migrate back from Elf Forest into the real world.

1. Taxi, cable and Hollywood are alive and not going to die any time soon. Although in many aspects their services suck.
2. Creating another crypto token which is good for micro payments is not really enough to disrupt anything.
3. Devil does not exist. As well as god.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 23, 2016, 11:32:04 pm
3. Devil does not exist. As well as god.

That is what devil wants you to believe
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 23, 2016, 11:33:52 pm
2. Creating another crypto token which is good for micro payments is not really enough to disrupt anything.

I am afraid yes.

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: yvv on March 23, 2016, 11:44:03 pm
3. Devil does not exist. As well as god.

That is what devil wants you to believe

I am not a believer. I was done with all believes when I was three years old.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 23, 2016, 11:46:07 pm
And we're back to the topic... :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 24, 2016, 12:10:33 am
all orders today confirmed. something like 106 000 solcerts left of tier 3 gn
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 24, 2016, 12:51:22 am
tier 3 complete , and some 140k of the 500 in tier 4 most probably gone also
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 24, 2016, 09:07:12 am


New Money poses lethal threat to cable TV

http://bitscan.com/articles/new-money-poses-lethal-threat-to-cable-tv



块链项目:“别样新钱”,瞄上有线电视业务。

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_e2700da80102w6mn.html
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 24, 2016, 09:51:35 am
New Money project using blockchain technology poses lethal threat to cable TV

The New Money project powered by Sollywood TV using blockchain technology target to wrap cable tv operation completely
A media content platform that among other things leverage's micro-payments to enable content creators to optimally price their product at lower price points & for less fees/overhead than has previously been possible, thereby potentially increasing profits &/or creating entirely new markets for some content.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockChain/comments/4bqx19/new_money_project_using_blockchain_technology/
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 24, 2016, 12:20:45 pm
New Money project using blockchain technology poses lethal threat to cable TV

The New Money project powered by Sollywood TV using blockchain technology target to wrap cable tv operation completely
A media content platform that among other things leverage's micro-payments to enable content creators to optimally price their product at lower price points & for less fees/overhead than has previously been possible, thereby potentially increasing profits &/or creating entirely new markets for some content.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockChain/comments/4bqx19/new_money_project_using_blockchain_technology/

they probably removed your content and there is no working link to the "New Money project"
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 24, 2016, 02:09:27 pm
To all of our followers and supporters we appreciate your continued participation in this project! We are doing very well without our PR push which is excellent  :D

Now that things are starting to pick up I would ask that if individuals have questions that they post their questions on the New Money BITCOINTALK thread HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1407719.0) rather than on BitsharesTalk. This is so that we can keep that thread alive and get more individuals interested in New Money. Remember this is a Powered by Bitshares project so lets get the community involved with participating in its adoption. People are actually open to buying Bitshares because of this project which makes me proud to be apart of this community. I'm unapologetically a Bitshares community member and everyone knows it and respects it. I am happy to evangelize and people are listening. Please consider helping me out in this way.

Head on over to BitcoinTalk and lets mingle. Again thank you for your participation  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: pc on March 24, 2016, 05:35:29 pm
all orders today confirmed. something like 106 000 solcerts left of tier 3 gn

I sent you a PM about my BTC transaction two days ago and haven't received a confirmation yet. Did I do anything wrong?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 24, 2016, 07:16:05 pm
all orders today confirmed. something like 106 000 solcerts left of tier 3 gn

I sent you a PM about my BTC transaction two days ago and haven't received a confirmation yet. Did I do anything wrong?

sorry pc, I actually figured you would check your account. I will try to figure out a way to writye for all to understand that i bascially confirm in a transfer with memo to the account where you need the funds arriving once presale is over. pls check your account and confirm to me all is ok, otherwise I will ofcourse send you e-mail also. I know I wrote this, but figured all with accounts alredy would check their memo. thanks, once again sorry for the misunderstanding, all my faultm, just trying to reduce he work involved.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 24, 2016, 07:37:50 pm
To all of our followers and supporters we appreciate your continued participation in this project! We are doing very well without our PR push which is excellent  :D

Now that things are starting to pick up I would ask that if individuals have questions that they post their questions on the New Money BITCOINTALK thread HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1407719.0) rather than on BitsharesTalk. This is so that we can keep that thread alive and get more individuals interested in New Money. Remember this is a Powered by Bitshares project so lets get the community involved with participating in its adoption. People are actually open to buying Bitshares because of this project which makes me proud to be apart of this community. I'm unapologetically a Bitshares community member and everyone knows it and respects it. I am happy to evangelize and people are listening. Please consider helping me out in this way.

Head on over to BitcoinTalk and lets mingle. Again thank you for your participation  :)

I would suggest you do both places, buy simply help getting the word out by asking questions on both, I think some people on BitShares prefers to ask here Solomon, and others are happy to assist on both, still thinking where @Stan is to give his comments, but maybe already busy preparing for the Easter Bunny to come visit :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 24, 2016, 07:56:09 pm
(posted this on the Bitcointalk thread as well, just in case someone here wants to chime in)

I support this project. I have a thought and a question.

"(7) Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Thought: Have you considered destroying what was sold? This would benefit early investors as well as add more urgency to potential buyers.

Question: What price will you sell the remaining tokens after the ICO?  I would hope it would be the highest amount anyone else paid.  In other words, I'd hate to buy in on tier 5 and then have the remaining ICO coins sold by your company at ICO 3 levels.

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 24, 2016, 08:51:31 pm
(posted this on the Bitcointalk thread as well, just in case someone here wants to chime in)

I support this project. I have a thought and a question.

"(7) Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Thought: Have you considered destroying what was sold? This would benefit early investors as well as add more urgency to potential buyers.

Question: What price will you sell the remaining tokens after the ICO?  I would hope it would be the highest amount anyone else paid.  In other words, I'd hate to buy in on tier 5 and then have the remaining ICO coins sold by your company at ICO 3 levels.

TravelAsia-

Thank you for your support. I really appreciate it and everyone who has participated so far. I would rather not burn the rest of the supply as that supply could be put to good use especially when the KickStarter starts. This is a campaign to reach mainstream consumers so we dont want to get rid of the very unit that may actually entice people to help us out in big ways.

For the ICO We will not be selling SOLCERTS at a lower price than the Pre-Sale. That is pretty much suicide (investment wise). We are actually holding the ICO because unfortunately we cannot gauge when and where people will actually here about the project. It seems like the more people hear about it the better. We are actually doing much better than we expected to do now with out our PR push thats coming in the next few days who knows what may happen.

But imagine you are new and you hear about the project late and want to buy in but they burned the rest of the supply. Its not that you were on the fence its that you just did not know about the project.

I say that to say I want as many individuals to participate in this project as possible. We are not trying to replicate Bitcoin and its investment environment. We want to be more inclusive of more individuals. We dont want that reputation of a thousand individuals owning all of our supply. That is not a currency for mass adoption in my opinion. Its a different philosophy of what most crypto-heads are used to hearing but that's why what we are doing is New Money and not another crypto-currency. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 24, 2016, 09:08:00 pm
(posted this on the Bitcointalk thread as well, just in case someone here wants to chime in)

I support this project. I have a thought and a question.

"(7) Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Thought: Have you considered destroying what was sold? This would benefit early investors as well as add more urgency to potential buyers.

Question: What price will you sell the remaining tokens after the ICO?  I would hope it would be the highest amount anyone else paid.  In other words, I'd hate to buy in on tier 5 and then have the remaining ICO coins sold by your company at ICO 3 levels.

TravelAsia-

Thank you for your support. I really appreciate it and everyone who has participated so far. I would rather not burn the rest of the supply as that supply could be put to good use especially when the KickStarter starts. This is a campaign to reach mainstream consumers so we dont want to get rid of the very unit that may actually entice people to help us out in big ways.

For the ICO We will not be selling SOLCERTS at a lower price than the Pre-Sale. That is pretty much suicide (investment wise). We are actually holding the ICO because unfortunately we cannot gauge when and where people will actually here about the project. It seems like the more people hear about it the better. We are actually doing much better than we expected to do now with out our PR push thats coming in the next few days who knows what may happen.

But imagine you are new and you hear about the project late and want to buy in but they burned the rest of the supply. Its not that you were on the fence its that you just did not know about the project.

I say that to say I want as many individuals to participate in this project as possible. We are not trying to replicate Bitcoin and its investment environment. We want to be more inclusive of more individuals. We dont want that reputation of a thousand individuals owning all of our supply. That is not a currency for mass adoption in my opinion. Its a different philosophy of what most crypto-heads are used to hearing but that's why what we are doing is New Money and not another crypto-currency. Hope this helps.

Thank you for clarifying.  If I understand it right, if there's any time to buy, it's now.  Each level the price goes up and even with the unsold tokens, those won't be sold under the high presale price.  So for example the people that bought in the 2nd and 3rd tier are watching their value go up every day or two that it jumps another tier.  If that's the case, it makes sense.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: pc on March 24, 2016, 09:30:18 pm
sorry pc, I actually figured you would check your account. I will try to figure out a way to writye for all to understand that i bascially confirm in a transfer with memo to the account where you need the funds arriving once presale is over. pls check your account and confirm to me all is ok, otherwise I will ofcourse send you e-mail also. I know I wrote this, but figured all with accounts alredy would check their memo. thanks, once again sorry for the misunderstanding, all my faultm, just trying to reduce he work involved.

Ah, ok. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Don't know if this was documented somewhere - if so, I missed it.

Anyway, yes, I received your transfer + memo at 2016-03-22T22:00:51 .
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 24, 2016, 10:39:09 pm
(posted this on the Bitcointalk thread as well, just in case someone here wants to chime in)

I support this project. I have a thought and a question.

"(7) Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Thought: Have you considered destroying what was sold? This would benefit early investors as well as add more urgency to potential buyers.

Question: What price will you sell the remaining tokens after the ICO?  I would hope it would be the highest amount anyone else paid.  In other words, I'd hate to buy in on tier 5 and then have the remaining ICO coins sold by your company at ICO 3 levels.

TravelAsia-

Thank you for your support. I really appreciate it and everyone who has participated so far. I would rather not burn the rest of the supply as that supply could be put to good use especially when the KickStarter starts. This is a campaign to reach mainstream consumers so we dont want to get rid of the very unit that may actually entice people to help us out in big ways.

For the ICO We will not be selling SOLCERTS at a lower price than the Pre-Sale. That is pretty much suicide (investment wise). We are actually holding the ICO because unfortunately we cannot gauge when and where people will actually here about the project. It seems like the more people hear about it the better. We are actually doing much better than we expected to do now with out our PR push thats coming in the next few days who knows what may happen.

But imagine you are new and you hear about the project late and want to buy in but they burned the rest of the supply. Its not that you were on the fence its that you just did not know about the project.

I say that to say I want as many individuals to participate in this project as possible. We are not trying to replicate Bitcoin and its investment environment. We want to be more inclusive of more individuals. We dont want that reputation of a thousand individuals owning all of our supply. That is not a currency for mass adoption in my opinion. Its a different philosophy of what most crypto-heads are used to hearing but that's why what we are doing is New Money and not another crypto-currency. Hope this helps.

Thank you for clarifying.  If I understand it right, if there's any time to buy, it's now.  Each level the price goes up and even with the unsold tokens, those won't be sold under the high presale price.  So for example the people that bought in the 2nd and 3rd tier are watching their value go up every day or two that it jumps another tier.  If that's the case, it makes sense.

Yes sir. That's it. Thanks for considering this project  :D
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 25, 2016, 12:33:43 pm
I hope it will not apply here...
3. Crowdsales Allow Unethical Behavior

It is, in fact, immoral to sell dreams.

Why? Because humans have a “wishful thinking bias”. This means that we are more likely to believe a false thing, if that false thing is a dream. Therefore, all dream-sellers have the ability to deceive (“steal money from”) the credulous.

You see, while people should be able to invest in whatever they want, others should also be able to openly criticize bad investment-choices. Unfortunately, silence is often interpreted as implicit endorsement, and so this criticism is simply too rare (because criticism makes one unpopular). With a few notable exceptions (all of which are devoutly informal, and non-startup), most people are too selfish and/or afraid to do anywhere-near the right thing.

So, crowdsales allow predators to get away with the crime of selling a dream.


had a very interesting reading here... http://bitcoinhivemind.com/blog/crowdsales/

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: lafona on March 25, 2016, 12:50:44 pm
This has also been posted on reddit r/CryptoCurrency/ if you want to give it some love.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 25, 2016, 01:06:47 pm
I hope it will not apply here...
3. Crowdsales Allow Unethical Behavior

It is, in fact, immoral to sell dreams.

Why? Because humans have a “wishful thinking bias”. This means that we are more likely to believe a false thing, if that false thing is a dream. Therefore, all dream-sellers have the ability to deceive (“steal money from”) the credulous.

You see, while people should be able to invest in whatever they want, others should also be able to openly criticize bad investment-choices. Unfortunately, silence is often interpreted as implicit endorsement, and so this criticism is simply too rare (because criticism makes one unpopular). With a few notable exceptions (all of which are devoutly informal, and non-startup), most people are too selfish and/or afraid to do anywhere-near the right thing.

So, crowdsales allow predators to get away with the crime of selling a dream.


had a very interesting reading here... http://bitcoinhivemind.com/blog/crowdsales/

A man can only work so many hours before he must put his faith and resources into another man to see larger returns than he alone can achieve by himself. This is time tested and the fundamental truth of what humans have come to term as "investing" or believing in someone else's dream that they are "selling". Whether you call it "selling a dream" or not no idea whether its goes through a crowdsale or not starts out as a reality or actuality. It starts out as a dream or concept or aka not there lol

The difference with people like me, Vitalik and ByteMaster is we show the dream not just selling it with words. Individuals can SEE where we are trying to go. And that is a powerful medium. I keep saying this because people keep forgetting Ethereum started out with ONE TEN MINUTE VIDEO and a WHITE PAPER THAT IS NOW CONSIDERED VAPORWARE But they sold a dream individuals could believe in and enough people rallied around it to make it a reality even though they started with vaporware. The same can be said about Bitshares and even Bitcoin. No technology or concept starts out perfect or with one person. Everyone forgets the excruciating amounts of iteration that goes into these projects.

Yes we are not starting out as "perfect" but we have a goal that is too powerful to ignore "a mainstream alternative to the Dollar" starting in an industry on its knees begging for disruption. That my friend is a powerful dream and one that people are buying because they understand the simple potential of it and see I have a vision and skills to get us there.

But I'm not perfect. AND LIKE ALL MEN I CANNOT ACHIEVE THIS ALONE. I need other individuals with impressive skills to believe in this as anyone who has ever lived and tried to achieve a dream does. It is fundamental to the human experience. Could Vitalik have coded Ethereum by himself? Or taken it to the market cap it has achieved by himself? Lets be real. How about Dan? People must believe in other's dreams. "Crowdsale" is a distraction. At the end of the day we must believe in others...

Rather than harp on what negativity might come lets try and stay positive and look at the bright side of what this project has done in less than three days. I mean the BitcoinTalk community is actually being CIVIL with us and they know I'm from Bitshares. If that's not a miracle I don't know what is  :D

Thanks for the post. I understand where the author is coming from. But its up to all of us to recognize diamonds surrounded by heaps of dirt when we see it. Is this project a diamond? That's up for you to choose. I've laid my dream out there. People are rallying behind it.  Believe in it or not. Either way we will succeed. Just like Ethereum.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: yvv on March 25, 2016, 02:36:08 pm
I hope it will not apply here...
3. Crowdsales Allow Unethical Behavior

It is, in fact, immoral to sell dreams.

Why? Because humans have a “wishful thinking bias”. This means that we are more likely to believe a false thing, if that false thing is a dream. Therefore, all dream-sellers have the ability to deceive (“steal money from”) the credulous.

You see, while people should be able to invest in whatever they want, others should also be able to openly criticize bad investment-choices. Unfortunately, silence is often interpreted as implicit endorsement, and so this criticism is simply too rare (because criticism makes one unpopular). With a few notable exceptions (all of which are devoutly informal, and non-startup), most people are too selfish and/or afraid to do anywhere-near the right thing.

So, crowdsales allow predators to get away with the crime of selling a dream.


had a very interesting reading here... http://bitcoinhivemind.com/blog/crowdsales/

Ha-ha! "Wishful thinking". Right words, this is what it is. lol
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 25, 2016, 03:27:39 pm
Quote
SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/

So these 10 million SolCerts represent 0.001% of a total 1 trillion bond fund?

(I don't understand bonds very well, to someone more familiar with limited crypto tokens, this pre-sale seems to be for a very small amount of future supply?)


Thanks for diving deep.  ;D Yes 1 SoLCert essentially equals one future Sollar through the Sollar Bond. But that is too complicated to explain to most people. At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin as we are trying to be a currency with it and not a commodity like Bitcoin or Bitshares. Our commodity is SOLCERTS and Sollar Bonds. That is more like Bitshares or a speculative asset. One can use SoLCerts/Sollar Bonds to speculate on the value of the future Sollar against the future Dollar. If you believe the Dollar will be here forever then no need to follow this project. If you dont then consider the vision and roadmap of our project. Read part 3 of that series. (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)

Check out our General FAQs section too: https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.y7lew7tfa

Whether Sollars supply gets to 1 Trillion or 60 Trillion like the Dollars market cap will all depend on adoption of the currency by regular everyday consumers. It is my 10 year goal to get it to 1 Trillion. And to start on that path is with SOLCERTS and Millennials. We are issuing assets the same way Bitcoin, the US government and Bitshares issued assets to fund itself out of thin air. This is no different except that we are creating a mainstream alternative with a brand to actually take on the Dollar. So if you believe in a stable alternative to the Dollar then believe in this... or not. Either way people participating in our pre-sale are essentially buying into that mainstream currency supply now through SOLCERTS. And if we are successful you are going to be glad you did. Hope this info helps.

Thanks, I appreciate the explanation.

Quote
At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Given that a SOLCERT is a future Sollar and Sollars will be unlimited in supply, I'm still uncertain how the value of my investment will dramatically increase through adoption but I will look into it more at the links provided & hopefully understand it better.


The closest model to what you are offering via Solcerts that we have in crypto at the moment is Nubits. (Nubits, like Sollars and Sense are a stable unlimited supply coin, in their case pegged to the value of USD. https://nubits.com/)

The issuance of NuBits is controlled by NuShares shareholders. https://nubits.com/nushares/introduction
Most traditional investors (crypto or otherwise) would be much more interested in investing in and owning the underlying company, that issues Sollars, while mainstream would be more interested in owning & using NuBits/Sollars (Which a SolCert entitles you too.)

How does someone become a shareholder in the underlying company behind New Money?
(How does someone besides you get to have a say in the issuance of new Sollar bonds and what the received funds are spent on?)
Or will that come later? Thanks.

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 25, 2016, 04:19:20 pm
New Money Project Sollywood TV Aims to Disrupt Cable TV Sector Using Blockchain Technology
http://allcoinsnews.com/2016/03/25/new-money-project-sollywood-tv-aims-to-disrupt-cable-tv-sector-using-blockchain-technology/
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: pam2 on March 25, 2016, 04:21:38 pm
I hope it will not apply here...
3. Crowdsales Allow Unethical Behavior

It is, in fact, immoral to sell dreams.

Why? Because humans have a “wishful thinking bias”. This means that we are more likely to believe a false thing, if that false thing is a dream. Therefore, all dream-sellers have the ability to deceive (“steal money from”) the credulous.

You see, while people should be able to invest in whatever they want, others should also be able to openly criticize bad investment-choices. Unfortunately, silence is often interpreted as implicit endorsement, and so this criticism is simply too rare (because criticism makes one unpopular). With a few notable exceptions (all of which are devoutly informal, and non-startup), most people are too selfish and/or afraid to do anywhere-near the right thing.

So, crowdsales allow predators to get away with the crime of selling a dream.


had a very interesting reading here... http://bitcoinhivemind.com/blog/crowdsales/

A man can only work so many hours before he must put his faith and resources into another man to see larger returns than he alone can achieve by himself. This is time tested and the fundamental truth of what humans have come to term as "investing" or believing in someone else's dream that they are "selling". Whether you call it "selling a dream" or not no idea whether its goes through a crowdsale or not starts out as a reality or actuality. It starts out as a dream or concept or aka not there lol

The difference with people like me, Vitalik and ByteMaster is we show the dream not just selling it with words. Individuals can SEE where we are trying to go. And that is a powerful medium. I keep saying this because people keep forgetting Ethereum started out with ONE TEN MINUTE VIDEO and a WHITE PAPER THAT IS NOW CONSIDERED VAPORWARE But they sold a dream individuals could believe in and enough people rallied around it to make it a reality even though they started with vaporware. The same can be said about Bitshares and even Bitcoin. No technology or concept starts out perfect or with one person. Everyone forgets the excruciating amounts of iteration that goes into these projects.

Yes we are not starting out as "perfect" but we have a goal that is too powerful to ignore "a mainstream alternative to the Dollar" starting in an industry on its knees begging for disruption. That my friend is a powerful dream and one that people are buying because they understand the simple potential of it and see I have a vision and skills to get us there.

But I'm not perfect. AND LIKE ALL MEN I CANNOT ACHIEVE THIS ALONE. I need other individuals with impressive skills to believe in this as anyone who has ever lived and tried to achieve a dream does. It is fundamental to the human experience. Could Vitalik have coded Ethereum by himself? Or taken it to the market cap it has achieved by himself? Lets be real. How about Dan? People must believe in other's dreams. "Crowdsale" is a distraction. At the end of the day we must believe in others...

Rather than harp on what negativity might come lets try and stay positive and look at the bright side of what this project has done in less than three days. I mean the BitcoinTalk community is actually being CIVIL with us and they know I'm from Bitshares. If that's not a miracle I don't know what is  :D

Thanks for the post. I understand where the author is coming from. But its up to all of us to recognize diamonds surrounded by heaps of dirt when we see it. Is this project a diamond? That's up for you to choose. I've laid my dream out there. People are rallying behind it.  Believe in it or not. Either way we will succeed. Just like Ethereum.

 +5% +5% +5%
I support this project...I can see the market. Forget Hollywood and just think about independant film maker or film school or video produer out there and around the world. Even if the project fails, it's ok. Someone will go after the market. Many of the project out there in the crypto crowdsale failed, as in other industry. I've study venture capitalist sector and get to understand that more than 50% of the early stage or serie A investment failed and the usually have success in 20% of the deals that cover all their losses.  People supporting the project should do their due diligence, take responsibilities on their decision. I've not yet understand all the details of the project and the plans, and the SolCert and Sense things :) ... but I don't mind because I see the Big picture and time will tell. All what I know is this projet will help people all around the globe access high quality content easily, as well as ByteMaster MAS project. Those type of project really impact people lives compare to trading/exchange. I'm also aware of the risk and I will not bring anybody into this type of project if it's not willing to take a risk. Yep people should do their due diligence, take responsibilities. I' also believe the promoter should make it easy to understand use cases. We should make sure we protect the Bitshares Core value for our long term. Maybe find a way to remove failed crowdsale on DEX after a period of time.  I don't know.  It's good discussing this type of concern
Thanks!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: donkeypong on March 25, 2016, 04:43:40 pm
This is a big idea that involves a lot of different pieces and makes some major assumptions. It's not a fit for me as far as investing, but I'll be rooting for you to succeed.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Masdar on March 25, 2016, 11:00:55 pm
Hi.
Does the SOLCERT project is included in OBITS?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: konelectric on March 26, 2016, 02:08:42 am
Hi.
Does the SOLCERT project is included in OBITS?
Do you mean "can I buy SOLCERT with OBITS" or "is OBITS part of  SOLCERT"? I would guess not either way.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Valentin | Lin9uxis on March 26, 2016, 02:27:34 am
I guess he means if SOLCERT benefits are included in OBITS. The answer is no but maybe a percentage of the fee of the escrow service will be allocated to OBITS.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: konelectric on March 26, 2016, 02:39:07 am
I guess he means if SOLCERT benefits are included in OBITS. The answer is no but maybe a percentage of the fee of the escrow service will be allocated to OBITS.

I would guess no, but if they wanted it to be that way anything is possible here.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Chris4210 on March 26, 2016, 08:01:16 am
When will the Kickstarter be launched? Is there a plan already?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 26, 2016, 12:56:38 pm
2.50 BTS / 0.00003705 BTC / 0.001329 ETH = 1,000,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier

I think this "Tier" belongs to the past also...  (please update)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: fuzzy on March 26, 2016, 01:35:29 pm
When will the Kickstarter be launched? Is there a plan already?

approx 39 days from now
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 26, 2016, 07:58:50 pm
2.50 BTS / 0.00003705 BTC / 0.001329 ETH = 1,000,000 SOLCERTS available in this Tier

I think this "Tier" belongs to the past also...  (please update)

actually still some 700k of the 1 mill left in the tier 5
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 26, 2016, 08:13:21 pm
Japan has entered with its first two investors of each approx 5 btc, due to Sollywood now in the news in Japanese and the Bloggers from Bloggers Club 500 Japanes origin are starting to present this to their readers starting of with the no. 1 blogger cryptocurrencymagazine:

http://cryptocurrencymagazine.com/sollywood-tv-renewal-cable-tv-use-blockchain
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 26, 2016, 08:17:16 pm

Sollywood TV’s New Money Project Aims to Disrupt Cable TV Sector Using Blockchain Technology
http://www.the-blockchain.com/2016/03/24/sollywood-tvs-new-money-project-aims-to-disrupt-cable-tv-sector-using-blockchain-technology/
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 27, 2016, 05:30:05 am
When will the Kickstarter be launched? Is there a plan already?

Hello Chris. Great question. I'm pretty sure you have watched the three videos on why we are doing a KickStarter so I will save that info and just talk about some logistical stuff.

We will begin shooting the video in April. I've brought out some of my heavyweights in my film network to help out with this video. The original Scape brothers will also be helping out. Specifically with the Virginia shoot in which we will be shooting with the Cryptonomex team. COB of the Muse project will also be lending his voice, pretty boy face and skills to the video and development project should we be successful.

The MUSE chain has 80% of what we already need in terms of infrastructure/code so its simply just gearing the technology towards video.

We are shooting on the Canon C300 Mark 2 and the C100. Translation: Hollywood look and feel. I'm putting everything I've got into this. It will look EPIC.

We anticipate having the video completed by late may early June. By then this project should be very much out in the mainstream at least in the crypto-space. This will be achieved with professional marketing techniques. We have individuals working on that and a successful Pre-Sale is making this effort even more doable.

Once we are done with the video its simply putting up the KickStarter page and using the KickStarter marketing firms who specialize in KickStarter marketing to get our message out there. We will specifically be using 2 marketing firms that have done multi-millions of dollars for companies like us. The two we are looking at have a very high success rate in converting projects with goals as low as $12000 to Millions of dollars. We want to do the same. Hope this info helps.

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 27, 2016, 08:15:34 am
Sent another batch, hoping to hit tier 6. :)

Do you have an immediate marketing plans you plan to share? I'd love to hear you guys on some podcasts.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 27, 2016, 02:19:10 pm
TravelAsia thank you for your continued support! That means a lot! Just for kicks here's a little story context of what your actions mean. If you can harken back to the good ol days of early 2014. A little big head wild-eye wonderbread boy name Vitalik did the unthinkable. He introduced a new impossible and never achievable idea. At least that was according to his many and obviously SUPERIOR minded skeptics.

For if they had not thought of this first, or did it first how really could he? That is correct. Many scoffed with haughty heads of what he could not achieve due to this and this and this and this and this and this and this but this and this and this oh you forgot this and MOST CERTAINLY THIS!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!! This guy is obviously stupid. He's 19 of course he's stupid  8)

But then you see something strange happened... It was like that first spark in the dark. The great ripple that comes from that first drop in the calms of still water... That first frequency that creates the EPIC and everlasting noise of the Big Bang... That's right some started to say WHY NOT... If we all try this TOGETHER then why not... Those important people back then are you today. It was because of people like you that today Vitalik is sitting on a movement that may very well take on and surpass Bitcoin's market cap. That is important to understand. I will not achieve this... WE WILL ACHIEVE THIS TOGETHER through our shared resources and belief. That is the timeless nature of all things that succeed. Again thank you.

Sent another batch, hoping to hit tier 6. :)

Do you have an immediate marketing plans you plan to share? I'd love to hear you guys on some podcasts.

We have started our immediate "Official" marketing yesterday. If you go to our Explainer video on YouTube you will see our number of views has grown. Its just the beginning. I won't go into too many specifics but I can tell you we have a great marketing scheme about to begin to really get this project out in the mainstream. Three separate campaigns aimed at different audiences.

Reason why I won't get into specifics at this point is simply timing. All will be revealed in due time. We do have plans right now to do hangouts, podcasts, and popular shows many people know and love. And if you'd like to see this project on a specific show reach out to them and let them know about what we are doing. Hope this helps.

Finally I will get to everyone's responses. I'm watching this thread and will respond. Thank you for your patience
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Thom on March 27, 2016, 02:37:56 pm
This all sounds absolutely AWESOME Solly, I'm IN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you reached out to Jeff Berwick (Dollar Vigilante, Anarchast, Anarcopulco conference) to get an interview? He has a huge reach, has interviewed several other heavyweights and indies on the Hollywood scene, plus he's a huge crypto fan.

I bet he will love to devote a nice long Anarchast episode on the New Money Project.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 27, 2016, 03:44:28 pm
This all sounds absolutely AWESOME Solly, I'm IN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you reached out to Jeff Berwick (Dollar Vigilante, Anarchast, Anarcopulco conference) to get an interview? He has a huge reach, has interviewed several other heavyweights and indies on the Hollywood scene, plus he's a huge crypto fan.

I bet he will love to devote a nice long Anarchast episode on the New Money Project.

@Thom  you are another. Thank you brother for your early and continued support! We are doing very well so far. Would love to reach out to Jeff or if someone could for us that would also work. Just let me know where to go from here with that. Thanks!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 27, 2016, 03:51:46 pm
Are orders sent to escrow applied in order? In other words, I sent 200k+ BTS about 8 hours ago, I noticed purchases after mine. When ccedk processes them, will mine be applied first?  I'm asking because I see you mentioned there's another 300k left at an earlier tier and hope I can take advantage of it.  Wish you guys so much success.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: CLains on March 27, 2016, 03:52:25 pm
We have started our immediate "Official" marketing yesterday.

(http://cdn.guardian.ng//wp-content/uploads/2015/05/rocket.jpg)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 27, 2016, 04:14:57 pm
We have started our immediate "Official" marketing yesterday.

(http://cdn.guardian.ng//wp-content/uploads/2015/05/rocket.jpg)

Thank you CLains. You know the role you play in my life. If it was not for you I would not even be in Bitshares. From that first encouraging comment you gave me in 2014 until now. You have played a critical role of believer in me and this project. I owe you a lot and wish you all the success and blessings in your life as you have done for mine. It is my goal to make sure this project returns as much value to you as possible. Again thank you.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: konelectric on March 27, 2016, 05:52:20 pm
I'm sure once the news gets out, The Daily Decrypt will contact you.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 27, 2016, 09:47:56 pm
Are orders sent to escrow applied in order? In other words, I sent 200k+ BTS about 8 hours ago, I noticed purchases after mine. When ccedk processes them, will mine be applied first?  I'm asking because I see you mentioned there's another 300k left at an earlier tier and hope I can take advantage of it.  Wish you guys so much success.

The are alll applied in order, so yes you are the lucky holder of solcerts still from tier 5. If you have not already youi will receive a small transaction incl. confirmation and amount as well. I did pm you already also.

I am doing the confirmation and approvals end of day, but as mentioned orders are confirmed as they are registered on OpenLedger. Arent we just lucky we have a platform built in the way where nobody is able to cut line? :) ;)

Welcome
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 27, 2016, 10:04:29 pm
Are orders sent to escrow applied in order? In other words, I sent 200k+ BTS about 8 hours ago, I noticed purchases after mine. When ccedk processes them, will mine be applied first?  I'm asking because I see you mentioned there's another 300k left at an earlier tier and hope I can take advantage of it.  Wish you guys so much success.

The are alll applied in order, so yes you are the lucky holder of solcerts still from tier 5. If you have not already youi will receive a small transaction incl. confirmation and amount as well. I did pm you already also.

I am doing the confirmation and approvals end of day, but as mentioned orders are confirmed as they are registered on OpenLedger. Arent we just lucky we have a platform built in the way where nobody is able to cut line? :) ;)

Welcome

As always, you are awesome taking care of business. Thank you.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 28, 2016, 05:53:01 pm
How many are left at the current level?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 28, 2016, 07:03:51 pm
I believe we are at next level, at the moment doing update will be back back soonish
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 28, 2016, 08:33:52 pm
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 28, 2016, 08:42:33 pm
How many are left at the current level?

137 000 left of tier 5
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 28, 2016, 10:00:12 pm
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Hello TravelAsia. No problem buddy.

1. Yes the ICO/ITO is before the KickStarter. The KickStarter is a separate publicity/costumer acquisition crowdfunder on the consumer side of what we are doing. This is the way we will begin our journey to consolidating a mainstream audience onto our platform. The ITO is for the crypto-audience and allows us to create a stellar story of a grassroots movement starting from the bottom and like Drake said Now we are here  ;D

2. Price really and other possible loyalty stuff. But that is not guaranteed nor promised. For the most part it is price. Its the same as with Bitshares, Ethereum, and Bitcoin. The tiers are meant to mimic this. I bet the guy who bought a pizza with 6,000 Bitcoins is wishing he didnt today but the truth is he got lucky and got in when it was cheap but still made a stupid decision not to wait... I say that to say individuals should have patience. Just as Ethereum, we are going to go through major steps and transitions. This is not an overnight thing. No disruption of this size can be. But in the end we will try our best to reach a mainstream audience. And the chips will fall where they may.

#DontBeTheBitcoinPizzaGuy  :P
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: vlight on March 28, 2016, 10:42:31 pm
A 50x price difference between first and last tier and price is already at 2x after 1 week. How is this fair distribution?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 28, 2016, 10:51:03 pm
A 50x price difference between first and last tier and price is already at 2x after 1 week. How is this fair distribution?

I can't speak for the company, but I can speak as an investor. For those of us who invested early, there was a lot of uncertainty if this would go anywhere. We took a huge gamble with a lot less information. My first purchase was early, but under 1 Bitcoin.  As the PR started to come out, I was more comfortable with the investment.  I believe the same will be the case for future investors.  They also benefit from earlier investors pushing it through social media.   I wish I was part of the first 2 tiers, unfortunately, I didn't find out until the third. I'm focused on the now rather than the what could have been. That's my take on it, Sol might see it differently.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: vlight on March 28, 2016, 10:54:07 pm
A 50x price difference between first and last tier and price is already at 2x after 1 week. How is this fair distribution?

I can't speak for the company, but I can speak as an investor. For those of us who invested early, there was a lot of uncertainty if this would go anywhere. We took a huge gamble with a lot less information. My first purchase was early, but under 1 Bitcoin.  As the PR started to come out, I was more comfortable with the investment.  I believe the same will be the case for future investors.  They also benefit from earlier investors pushing it through social media.   I wish I was part of the first 2 tiers, unfortunately, I didn't find out until the third. I'm focused on the now rather than the what could have been. That's my take on it, Sol might see it differently.

Invested early? So when did the first tier sale started?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 28, 2016, 10:56:25 pm
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Hello TravelAsia. No problem buddy.

1. Yes the ICO/ITO is before the KickStarter. The KickStarter is a separate publicity/costumer acquisition crowdfunder on the consumer side of what we are doing. This is the way we will begin our journey to consolidating a mainstream audience onto our platform. The ITO is for the crypto-audience and allows us to create a stellar story of a grassroots movement starting from the bottom and like Drake said Now we are here  ;D

2. Price really and other possible loyalty stuff. But that is not guaranteed nor promised. For the most part it is price. Its the same as with Bitshares, Ethereum, and Bitcoin. The tiers are meant to mimic this. I bet the guy who bought a pizza with 6,000 Bitcoins is wishing he didnt today but the truth is he got lucky and got in when it was cheap but still made a stupid decision not to wait... I say that to say individuals should have patience. Just as Ethereum, we are going to go through major steps and transitions. This is not an overnight thing. No disruption of this size can be. But in the end we will try our best to reach a mainstream audience. And the chips will fall where they may.

#DontBeTheBitcoinPizzaGuy  :P

I appreciate your help. Ok, I'm with you so far, ready to take another step:

3. "Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Let's pretend Tiers 10-13 doesn't sell in the presale which equals 2 million. Could you please explain how that ICO will work?  Will it be offered at a fixed price starting at 20 BTS? I'm trying to understand how it'll differ from the pre-sale.

I've been helping spread links through social media under my Lisk Twitter.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 28, 2016, 10:58:36 pm
A 50x price difference between first and last tier and price is already at 2x after 1 week. How is this fair distribution?

I can't speak for the company, but I can speak as an investor. For those of us who invested early, there was a lot of uncertainty if this would go anywhere. We took a huge gamble with a lot less information. My first purchase was early, but under 1 Bitcoin.  As the PR started to come out, I was more comfortable with the investment.  I believe the same will be the case for future investors.  They also benefit from earlier investors pushing it through social media.   I wish I was part of the first 2 tiers, unfortunately, I didn't find out until the third. I'm focused on the now rather than the what could have been. That's my take on it, Sol might see it differently.

Invested early? So when did the first tier sale started?

I got in on tier 3 for my first purchase. I don't know when it started, I just saw the first 2 tiers crossed out on the OP and decided to participate at that point. Tier 3 was early for me, I typically wait much longer (like I did with Obits). I do wish I heard Sol speak about it back on Feb 12th (audio below). it's hard to keep a pulse on all the things happening in the crypto community.

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/e133

Starts 1hr 33min
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Ben Mason on March 28, 2016, 11:20:07 pm
Congratulations on launching your project Solomon and with your collaborations! Very very exciting! I don't have the funds to invest at this point but wish you the very best of luck.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: yvv on March 29, 2016, 12:14:53 am
A 50x price difference between first and last tier and price is already at 2x after 1 week. How is this fair distribution?

It is as "fair" as any pyramid. By buying their tokens you help to return investments to those who bought earlier than you. If some silly idiots will wish to buy later than you, you may return your investment.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 29, 2016, 04:10:51 am
Congratulations on launching your project Solomon and with your collaborations! Very very exciting! I don't have the funds to invest at this point but wish you the very best of luck.

Hey Ben! Thanks man! We've come a very long way.  :D

And still much more to go. But at least this time its with friends and comrades. Don't worry about it. Your words of encouragement are good enough! Its tough for one to put their vision out there, but honestly I'm very grateful to the Bitshares community coming behind this project in the way that it has.

Our overall image to the rest of the crypto-community is changing. A lot of us can feel it. People are genuinely interested in what we are doing and being civil with this project. They are asking more and more about Bitshares. Makes me happy because it is proving my original thesis out. That sometimes its not about the tech but the entrepreneur or people behind it.

With that let's stay positive and show the wider crypto-community that THIS is how you reach a mainstream audience. Not with Blockchain but with $ense #PoweredByBitshares #OnlyAtBitshares #OriginalRockStarDelegate
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 29, 2016, 03:38:25 pm
Happy to announce Tier 5 is now officially closed! :D

Thank you to all who are continuing to support this project. It is because of individuals like you that WE will succeed. Not me. WE. Remember to let everyone know about this Powered By Bitshares project. The more people know about this movement into the mainstream (with a currency your grandma understands) the better.

#LetsMakeSense #SollarsandSense #NewMoney #ThankYou
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 29, 2016, 03:58:49 pm
Hi Solomon,
Requesting clarificarion on #3 and also requesting how many are left on tier 6. Great to see such a positive response so far.

1q
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Hello TravelAsia. No problem buddy.

1. Yes the ICO/ITO is before the KickStarter. The KickStarter is a separate publicity/costumer acquisition crowdfunder on the consumer side of what we are doing. This is the way we will begin our journey to consolidating a mainstream audience onto our platform. The ITO is for the crypto-audience and allows us to create a stellar story of a grassroots movement starting from the bottom and like Drake said Now we are here  ;D

2. Price really and other possible loyalty stuff. But that is not guaranteed nor promised. For the most part it is price. Its the same as with Bitshares, Ethereum, and Bitcoin. The tiers are meant to mimic this. I bet the guy who bought a pizza with 6,000 Bitcoins is wishing he didnt today but the truth is he got lucky and got in when it was cheap but still made a stupid decision not to wait... I say that to say individuals should have patience. Just as Ethereum, we are going to go through major steps and transitions. This is not an overnight thing. No disruption of this size can be. But in the end we will try our best to reach a mainstream audience. And the chips will fall where they may.

#DontBeTheBitcoinPizzaGuy  :P

I appreciate your help. Ok, I'm with you so far, ready to take another step:

3. "Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Let's pretend Tiers 10-13 doesn't sell in the presale which equals 2 million. Could you please explain how that ICO will work?  Will it be offered at a fixed price starting at 20 BTS? I'm trying to understand how it'll differ from the pre-sale.

I've been helping spread links through social media under my Lisk Twitter.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 29, 2016, 04:08:34 pm
Hi Solomon,
Requesting clarificarion on #3 and also requesting how many are left on tier 6. Great to see such a positive response so far.

1q
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Hello TravelAsia. No problem buddy.

1. Yes the ICO/ITO is before the KickStarter. The KickStarter is a separate publicity/costumer acquisition crowdfunder on the consumer side of what we are doing. This is the way we will begin our journey to consolidating a mainstream audience onto our platform. The ITO is for the crypto-audience and allows us to create a stellar story of a grassroots movement starting from the bottom and like Drake said Now we are here  ;D

2. Price really and other possible loyalty stuff. But that is not guaranteed nor promised. For the most part it is price. Its the same as with Bitshares, Ethereum, and Bitcoin. The tiers are meant to mimic this. I bet the guy who bought a pizza with 6,000 Bitcoins is wishing he didnt today but the truth is he got lucky and got in when it was cheap but still made a stupid decision not to wait... I say that to say individuals should have patience. Just as Ethereum, we are going to go through major steps and transitions. This is not an overnight thing. No disruption of this size can be. But in the end we will try our best to reach a mainstream audience. And the chips will fall where they may.

#DontBeTheBitcoinPizzaGuy  :P

I appreciate your help. Ok, I'm with you so far, ready to take another step:

3. "Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Let's pretend Tiers 10-13 doesn't sell in the presale which equals 2 million. Could you please explain how that ICO will work?  Will it be offered at a fixed price starting at 20 BTS? I'm trying to understand how it'll differ from the pre-sale.

I've been helping spread links through social media under my Lisk Twitter.

Yes sir. Thank you for your patience.  :)

In terms of question 3 we are still in the process of figuring out the best way to go about the ICO. We never expected to be doing so well so soon so we want to be careful in configuring this process. Fixed price may be used but we are still figuring out the logistics of it all. If you have any concerns or would like to offer your opinion on how things should be run please dont hesitate to reach out to Ronny. Thank you again TravelAsia for your participation.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: pam2 on March 29, 2016, 06:08:43 pm
Congratulations on launching your project Solomon and with your collaborations! Very very exciting! I don't have the funds to invest at this point but wish you the very best of luck.

Hey Ben! Thanks man! We've come a very long way.  :D

And still much more to go. But at least this time its with friends and comrades. Don't worry about it. Your words of encouragement are good enough! Its tough for one to put their vision out there, but honestly I'm very grateful to the Bitshares community coming behind this project in the way that it has.

Our overall image to the rest of the crypto-community is changing. A lot of us can feel it. People are genuinely interested in what we are doing and being civil with this project. They are asking more and more about Bitshares. Makes me happy because it is proving my original thesis out. That sometimes its not about the tech but the entrepreneur or people behind it.

With that let's stay positive and show the wider crypto-community that THIS is how you reach a mainstream audience. Not with Blockchain but with $ense #PoweredByBitshares #OnlyAtBitshares #OriginalRockStarDelegate

Yeah, Bitshares, Bitcoin, Ethereum it's all technology untill we have products that people really care. That's why entrepreneurs are standing up to launch products and business people care about (Sollywood TV, Echo Apps, PeerTracks, M.A.S and more to come...). These projects will take bitshares in another level. Mainstream don't even care if it's powered by Bitshares, Bitcoin or Ethereum Blockchains.   
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 29, 2016, 09:22:36 pm
Hi Solomon,
Requesting clarificarion on #3 and also requesting how many are left on tier 6. Great to see such a positive response so far.

1q
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Hello TravelAsia. No problem buddy.

1. Yes the ICO/ITO is before the KickStarter. The KickStarter is a separate publicity/costumer acquisition crowdfunder on the consumer side of what we are doing. This is the way we will begin our journey to consolidating a mainstream audience onto our platform. The ITO is for the crypto-audience and allows us to create a stellar story of a grassroots movement starting from the bottom and like Drake said Now we are here  ;D

2. Price really and other possible loyalty stuff. But that is not guaranteed nor promised. For the most part it is price. Its the same as with Bitshares, Ethereum, and Bitcoin. The tiers are meant to mimic this. I bet the guy who bought a pizza with 6,000 Bitcoins is wishing he didnt today but the truth is he got lucky and got in when it was cheap but still made a stupid decision not to wait... I say that to say individuals should have patience. Just as Ethereum, we are going to go through major steps and transitions. This is not an overnight thing. No disruption of this size can be. But in the end we will try our best to reach a mainstream audience. And the chips will fall where they may.

#DontBeTheBitcoinPizzaGuy  :P

I appreciate your help. Ok, I'm with you so far, ready to take another step:

3. "Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Let's pretend Tiers 10-13 doesn't sell in the presale which equals 2 million. Could you please explain how that ICO will work?  Will it be offered at a fixed price starting at 20 BTS? I'm trying to understand how it'll differ from the pre-sale.

I've been helping spread links through social media under my Lisk Twitter.

Yes sir. Thank you for your patience.  :)

In terms of question 3 we are still in the process of figuring out the best way to go about the ICO. We never expected to be doing so well so soon so we want to be careful in configuring this process. Fixed price may be used but we are still figuring out the logistics of it all. If you have any concerns or would like to offer your opinion on how things should be run please dont hesitate to reach out to Ronny. Thank you again TravelAsia for your participation.

You are doing a great job, it's making it easier for me to answer questions as I spread the word. Ok, makes sense on the ICO. The only thing I ask (which was already addressed) is the next phase of funding doesn't undercut the guys that took the chance on investing earlier.

Question 4:

So the funds raised in the pre-sale and the ICO will be used to launch the Kickstarter. I'm with you on this so far.   Since all ~9 million tokens are already issued, what exactly are you selling during the kickstarter and how does that benefit existing token holders?

Scenario:

6 million sold during presale
3 million (slightly less) sold during ICO
What is offered during the kickstarter and how does that affect the presale holders.


Thank you very much for taking the time. I will also move all these answers over to the Bitcointalk thread.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 29, 2016, 09:24:58 pm
Congratulations on launching your project Solomon and with your collaborations! Very very exciting! I don't have the funds to invest at this point but wish you the very best of luck.

Hey Ben! Thanks man! We've come a very long way.  :D

And still much more to go. But at least this time its with friends and comrades. Don't worry about it. Your words of encouragement are good enough! Its tough for one to put their vision out there, but honestly I'm very grateful to the Bitshares community coming behind this project in the way that it has.

Our overall image to the rest of the crypto-community is changing. A lot of us can feel it. People are genuinely interested in what we are doing and being civil with this project. They are asking more and more about Bitshares. Makes me happy because it is proving my original thesis out. That sometimes its not about the tech but the entrepreneur or people behind it.

With that let's stay positive and show the wider crypto-community that THIS is how you reach a mainstream audience. Not with Blockchain but with $ense #PoweredByBitshares #OnlyAtBitshares #OriginalRockStarDelegate

Yeah, Bitshares, Bitcoin, Ethereum it's all technology untill we have products that people really care. That's why entrepreneurs are standing up to launch products and business people care about (Sollywood TV, Echo Apps, PeerTracks, M.A.S and more to come...). These projects will take bitshares in another level. Mainstream don't even care if it's powered by Bitshares, Bitcoin or Ethereum Blockchains.

 +5% You are absolutely right. The platform is the base but it's the entrepreneurs that are going drive the adoption.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 29, 2016, 09:47:49 pm
Hi Solomon,
Requesting clarificarion on #3 and also requesting how many are left on tier 6. Great to see such a positive response so far.

1q
There's a lot to read, I apologize if I'm the only one with these questions.

1.The money raised from the presale feeds into the Kickstarter. I got that from the documents. Is the ICO the next step before the Kickstarter or is that the actual ICO?
2. What advantages do the presale people have over the ICO and Kickstarter?

Hello TravelAsia. No problem buddy.

1. Yes the ICO/ITO is before the KickStarter. The KickStarter is a separate publicity/costumer acquisition crowdfunder on the consumer side of what we are doing. This is the way we will begin our journey to consolidating a mainstream audience onto our platform. The ITO is for the crypto-audience and allows us to create a stellar story of a grassroots movement starting from the bottom and like Drake said Now we are here  ;D

2. Price really and other possible loyalty stuff. But that is not guaranteed nor promised. For the most part it is price. Its the same as with Bitshares, Ethereum, and Bitcoin. The tiers are meant to mimic this. I bet the guy who bought a pizza with 6,000 Bitcoins is wishing he didnt today but the truth is he got lucky and got in when it was cheap but still made a stupid decision not to wait... I say that to say individuals should have patience. Just as Ethereum, we are going to go through major steps and transitions. This is not an overnight thing. No disruption of this size can be. But in the end we will try our best to reach a mainstream audience. And the chips will fall where they may.

#DontBeTheBitcoinPizzaGuy  :P

I appreciate your help. Ok, I'm with you so far, ready to take another step:

3. "Any remaining amounts of Solcerts not sold during the time of presale will be put up for sale on the base of an ICO presented in direct connection with mentioned presale and will be offered available on all major markets on OpenLedger."

Let's pretend Tiers 10-13 doesn't sell in the presale which equals 2 million. Could you please explain how that ICO will work?  Will it be offered at a fixed price starting at 20 BTS? I'm trying to understand how it'll differ from the pre-sale.

I've been helping spread links through social media under my Lisk Twitter.

Yes sir. Thank you for your patience.  :)

In terms of question 3 we are still in the process of figuring out the best way to go about the ICO. We never expected to be doing so well so soon so we want to be careful in configuring this process. Fixed price may be used but we are still figuring out the logistics of it all. If you have any concerns or would like to offer your opinion on how things should be run please dont hesitate to reach out to Ronny. Thank you again TravelAsia for your participation.

You are doing a great job, it's making it easier for me to answer questions as I spread the word. Ok, makes sense on the ICO. The only thing I ask (which was already addressed) is the next phase of funding doesn't undercut the guys that took the chance on investing earlier.

Question 4:

So the funds raised in the pre-sale and the ICO will be used to launch the Kickstarter. I'm with you on this so far.   Since all ~9 million tokens are already issued, what exactly are you selling during the kickstarter and how does that benefit existing token holders?

Scenario:

6 million sold during presale
3 million (slightly less) sold during ICO
What is offered during the kickstarter and how does that affect the presale holders.


Thank you very much for taking the time.

Great question and no worries  :D

So the KickStarter is in no way meant for crypto-currency enthusiasts. It is meant only for the mainstream consumer market and will be geared towards what they can understand. What is being offered is Sollars and Sense: Smart Money plus other gifts in exchange for their pledges. We will be working with the professional marketing companies to craft these gift tiers.

Consumers dont know anything about SOLCERTS or future DACs blockchains etc. And they won't unless they really want to. But most dont care about that aspect of this complex system. The only thing they need to know about is Sollars and Sense and how its working for their lives today on Sollywood TV. And that Bitshares various technologies are powering the system. Including the $ense.

And that is the unit they are buying into because they understand its going to help change their terrible Cable TV system. Put the final nail in its coffin so to speak. Americans want to see that VERY badly. All we need to do is convince them New Money can do it in the worst way  ;D

The KickStarter is being made to achieve that mission. So if we are successful their pledges essentially funds the systems second wave demand for Sollars. Yours and other early investors are the first. And we will build from here. You can always just share the 1st or 2nd video of the SOLCERT series or the Kickstarter videos on the New Money page (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDZ_ewjtQGwF6SWy7Y7YPzQ) if people want to know. Hope this helps  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 29, 2016, 10:26:23 pm

Question 4:

So the funds raised in the pre-sale and the ICO will be used to launch the Kickstarter. I'm with you on this so far.   Since all ~9 million tokens are already issued, what exactly are you selling during the kickstarter and how does that benefit existing token holders?

Scenario:

6 million sold during presale
3 million (slightly less) sold during ICO
What is offered during the kickstarter and how does that affect the presale holders.


These 9 million tokens represent just a tiny fraction of the total tokens that may be issued. So expect many millions of new tokens to be issued for the kickstarter.

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SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/


Solcerts are not like Apple/Microsoft/Ethereum/BTS where you are buying limited tokens that will increase in value as the company increases in value.

Solcerts are not like Bitcoin where new limited currency is created but provided adoption/demand is greater than new supply the tokens will increase in value with no ceiling. 

Solcerts are not like BitUSD which is unlimited based on market demand but is pegged to the dollar and backed by collateral.

At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Your Solcert is a future Sollar. Sollars are a stable unlimited supply coin. (Pegged to & backed by nothing.)

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 29, 2016, 11:22:14 pm
Question 5 (5 parts)

"We have created a crypto-token to represent the SSS Sollar Bond today before its official implementation on the Sollars DAC. The token has been dubbed SoLCerts (pronounced: soul-sert). Each SoLCert represents the value of one SSS Sollar Bond which (as we have come to know) represents the value of one future Sollar to be redeemed by the bondholder. You already know the exchange rate for Dollars to Sollars and vis versa for mainstream consumers. Do the math."

Not great at math, but let me see if I understand this. 

A) If I own 100 SoLCerts, that will be worth the same as someone on the Kickstarter getting 100 Sollars which equals 100 dollars?

" Like US treasury bonds we will continue to put up Sollar bonds in the crypto market through a series of auctions using crypto tokens like SoLCerts."

B) Can you guarantee that additional actions WILL NOT sell for less than the amounts in any previous auction. For example, if I paid 50 BTS per Sollar in auction 1, I wouldn't want to see SollarsandSense sell the next batch starting at 20 BTS. It would completely remove the incentives for early investors.

"SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this token."

C) Does this mean you're only selling 1/10000 (10 million of 1 trilliion) of this total fund or am I reading that wrong. If so, you're evaluating this fund at 1 trillion?

D) Once the pre-sale is complete, will this be immediately available for trade? If so, against what currencies? BTS? Open.BTC etc?

E) Is either the SolCerts or Sollars pegged to anything?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 30, 2016, 12:07:14 am

Question 4:

So the funds raised in the pre-sale and the ICO will be used to launch the Kickstarter. I'm with you on this so far.   Since all ~9 million tokens are already issued, what exactly are you selling during the kickstarter and how does that benefit existing token holders?

Scenario:

6 million sold during presale
3 million (slightly less) sold during ICO
What is offered during the kickstarter and how does that affect the presale holders.


These 9 million tokens represent just a tiny fraction of the total tokens that may be issued. So expect many millions of new tokens to be issued for the kickstarter.

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SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/


Solcerts are not like Apple/Microsoft/Ethereum/BTS where you are buying limited tokens that will increase in value as the company increases in value.

Solcerts are not like Bitcoin where new limited currency is created but provided adoption/demand is greater than new supply the tokens will increase in value with no ceiling. 

Solcerts are not like BitUSD which is unlimited based on market demand but is pegged to the dollar and backed by collateral.

At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Your Solcert is a future Sollar. Sollars are a stable unlimited supply coin. (Pegged to & backed by nothing.)

You forgot part 3: http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/



Question 5 (5 parts)

"We have created a crypto-token to represent the SSS Sollar Bond today before its official implementation on the Sollars DAC. The token has been dubbed SoLCerts (pronounced: soul-sert). Each SoLCert represents the value of one SSS Sollar Bond which (as we have come to know) represents the value of one future Sollar to be redeemed by the bondholder. You already know the exchange rate for Dollars to Sollars and vis versa for mainstream consumers. Do the math."

Not great at math, but let me see if I understand this. 

A) If I own 100 SoLCerts, that will be worth the same as someone on the Kickstarter getting 100 Sollars which equals 100 dollars?

Solomon: That should be the case if things go great. Nothing is guaranteed though and this is best case scenario.

Like US treasury bonds we will continue to put up Sollar bonds in the crypto market through a series of auctions using crypto tokens like SoLCerts.

B) Can you guarantee that additional actions WILL NOT sell for less than the amounts in any previous auction. For example, if I paid 50 BTS per Sollar in auction 1, I wouldn't want to see SollarsandSense sell the next batch starting at 20 BTS. It would completely remove the incentives for early investors.

No this cannot be guaranteed as this is not a security nor are we selling one with guarantees of returns.

SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this token.

C) Does this mean you're only selling 1/10000 (10 million of 1 trilliion) of this total fund or am I reading that wrong. If so, you're evaluating this fund at 1 trillion?

Yes. Please read from Part 1 why this is the case. It is a different philosophy and route to mass adoption that I believe is necessary.


D) Once the pre-sale is complete, will this be immediately available for trade? If so, against what currencies? BTS? Open.BTC etc?

Yes the markets have already been created. So if you do not believe or agree with this project at that time you may take action on the open market. Just remember Bitcoin Pizza guy. But take whatever action you need to take accordingly.

E) Is either the SolCerts or Sollars pegged to anything?

I've said from the outset that this is a different project with different goals of gaining mass adoption. It may be different from others philosophy of how to "fund ones self out of thin air" But lets not act as if there is an end all be all or a perfect way of doing it. That is how much of our mistakes as a community were made in the first place.

Bitshares Bitcoin and Ethereum have gain people value and have lost people value. Regardless of their God-like configurations of perfection NOTHING IN LIFE IS guaranteed. Anyone who ACTS as if they have the holy grail of how new monetary systems (AFTER ALL WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH) should check for a God complex. As I said clearly in part 5 of the SoLCert series there are many ways to fund ones self. All should be tried in an open free market. Let the people decide.

You don't like our long term goals or strategy then develop a short term view of your position in this project. Many individuals find value in this project for different stages of our roadmap. At the end of the day we are going to a mainstream audience and its going to take more than the small crypto-world to achieve that.

As I said in the beginning this will not be a digital currency that is known for having less than 1000 individuals own its whole supply. That is not what we are creating here. This is a movement of the people not another Fiat mini-me masquerading as a blockchain (BITCOIN).

You want to increase your potential value, its easy to calculate just like Dollars. Own more. You will be using it NOT hoarding it. This is not Bitcoin. As was stated in the FAQs:

(11) Why do a series of auctions? Great question. 1. It ensures enough funding for the present and on-going development of this project. 2. Allows newly minted believers to participate in our future endeavors. 3. Rewards those individuals who are holding our tokens and have been with us since the beginning (quasi-loyalty program)

When we come out with more auctions and tokens participate. We of course will look to do our early believers right BUT that is not a promise nor is it a guarantee. Nothing in life is. Take that how you must. Either way we are making $ense for this world.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 30, 2016, 12:21:00 am
"B) Can you guarantee that additional actions WILL NOT sell for less than the amounts in any previous auction. For example, if I paid 50 BTS per Sollar in auction 1, I wouldn't want to see SollarsandSense sell the next batch starting at 20 BTS. It would completely remove the incentives for early investors.

No this cannot be guaranteed as this is not a security nor are we selling one with guarantees of returns."

I'm not comfortable with this, I'll most likely look for an earlier exit.  The ability to have more auctions and to price it lower than your first batch of investors doesn't feel right. The tiered approach you are using isn't really representative of the project. If you can just decide what to sell that next auction at, you can undercut the people that supported you early.  I'll have to pass.  It's just an opinion, but it leaves too much central control. I understand the idea, I like your videos but I won't be investing any more or bringing in new people with this approach.

With Solomon's latest answers (we've been at this all day), I'm much more comfortable. Still lots more to ask/discuss, but the above statement I crossed out won't be an issue.  Will have my summary submitted to Solomon in the next few hours.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 30, 2016, 12:27:47 am
I'm not comfortable with this, I'll most likely look for an earlier exit.  The ability to have more auctions and to price it lower than your first batch of investors doesn't feel right. The tiered approach you are using isn't really representative of the project. If you can just decide what to sell that next auction at, you can undercut the people that supported you early.  I'll have to pass.  It's just an opinion, but it leaves too much central control.

 +5%

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 30, 2016, 12:32:10 am
"B) Can you guarantee that additional actions WILL NOT sell for less than the amounts in any previous auction. For example, if I paid 50 BTS per Sollar in auction 1, I wouldn't want to see SollarsandSense sell the next batch starting at 20 BTS. It would completely remove the incentives for early investors.

No this cannot be guaranteed as this is not a security nor are we selling one with guarantees of returns."

I'm not comfortable with this, I'll most likely look for an earlier exit.  The ability to have more auctions and to price it lower than your first batch of investors doesn't feel right. The tiered approach you are using isn't really representative of the project. If you can just decide what to sell that next auction at, you can undercut the people that supported you early.  I'll have to pass.  It's just an opinion, but it leaves too much central control. I understand the idea, I like your videos but I won't be investing any more.

I appreciate you answering my questions, I hope that also allows potential investors to have a better idea of the project. The material was so dense, it's taken me longer to understand this than Ethereum. :)

Best of luck!

No worries. I totally understand. As I stated before it would not be wise to do that. The system will not be centrally controlled it will be based on DPOS. We are issuing units now of that open-source system so people can gain from that position or not. Our pre-sale is mimicking supply and demand. Nothing wrong with that. People have positions in this for all sorts of reasons.

Some have donated because they really do believe my vision is the one to replace the Dollar. Others have donated because they think I have a great personality. Still yet others have donated because they like the Cable TV angle but think the SoLCert long term goal is a little much. Still they believe they can gain short term. We welcome them all. This project is a long term one and DPOS will be adopted as this is a powered by Bitshares project as stated lol.

Either way I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to help out and believe. Thanks man!  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Vizzini on March 30, 2016, 12:46:22 am
I'm not comfortable with this, I'll most likely look for an earlier exit. 
Best of luck and kick ass

These statements seem inconsistent. After reading the materials and looking at the videos, I don't know how you could possibly imagine a quick killing on this. If you invest in it, do it with heart. Short term speculators are not what this guy needs.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Empirical1.2 on March 30, 2016, 01:27:59 am

Question 4:

So the funds raised in the pre-sale and the ICO will be used to launch the Kickstarter. I'm with you on this so far.   Since all ~9 million tokens are already issued, what exactly are you selling during the kickstarter and how does that benefit existing token holders?

Scenario:

6 million sold during presale
3 million (slightly less) sold during ICO
What is offered during the kickstarter and how does that affect the presale holders.


These 9 million tokens represent just a tiny fraction of the total tokens that may be issued. So expect many millions of new tokens to be issued for the kickstarter.

Quote
SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/


Solcerts are not like Apple/Microsoft/Ethereum/BTS where you are buying limited tokens that will increase in value as the company increases in value.

Solcerts are not like Bitcoin where new limited currency is created but provided adoption/demand is greater than new supply the tokens will increase in value with no ceiling. 

Solcerts are not like BitUSD which is unlimited based on market demand but is pegged to the dollar and backed by collateral.

At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Your Solcert is a future Sollar. Sollars are a stable unlimited supply coin. (Pegged to & backed by nothing.)

You forgot part 3: http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/


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The Sollar bond takes the role of appreciating and speculative asset while it has not been redeemed (Bitshares,NuShares, Bitcoin). And Sollars and Sense plays the stable money unit of the system that can be used everyday (emunie, nubits, BitUSD, Tether).

As far as I can tell the sollar bond can't take the role of the appreciating and speculative asset like BTS/BTC/ETH because it only entitles you to a future Sollar & like Sollars, Sollar bonds can be issued in unlimited & unknown amounts, by you personally it seems initially, as there is no DAC yet.

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.At some point on the road there includes Sollars and Sense switching from being a UIA, that is manually pegged to the Dollar, to being its own independent DAC where its stability to the Dollar is automated with no human involvement.

As you intend to manually peg the Sollar to the dollar initially, there is some upside if you purchase 1 Solcert for less than 1 dollar. But unfortunately you won't have raised enough funds to provide any meaningful & redeemable collateral so it's unclear how or why Sollars would get pegged.

There could be something I'm really missing here & I'm not familiar with Emunie's stability mechanism, but personally I think most investors here and on kickstarter would prefer to invest in a company. You could possibly re-configure this so that these 10 million tokens represent shares in the New Money project itself. (Even if you say you will also be issuing X million shares at the Kickstarter, Y million for yourself, Z million set aside for A/B/C.) Then people can put a value on your idea, vision and the New Money Project. In terms of bootstrapping Sollars,  you could issue them at 1-1 with the dollar whenever  a mainstream customer wants a Sollar & peg them using something similar to Nubits/NuShares system. Both could exist on BTS. 

I think you're going to have a lot of confused people thinking they were buying shares in a 10 million token DAC and not understanding they were buying fairly unlimited bonds that will hopefully be redeemable for a token pegged to the dollar in future. (Even though you mention long term they won't necessarily be unequivocally tied to the dollar.)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 30, 2016, 02:03:59 am
 ??? Part 2: http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-2-reserve/

Empirical it is very simple. Please do the readings and understand the project BEFORE you comment like you have already done them. It therefore will not seem like FUD. I have spent too much time putting this all together for it to otherwise be the case. There is a reason why individuals are donating. And there is a reason why our launch on BitcoinTalk has been an early success. Despite being part of Bitshares.

This is about mass adoption of a currency unit by the 7 Billion people who inhabit this world. NOT about what you can maximally gain from profits or the amount of control you can have from this. If that is your top priority this is not and will never be the project for you. We will never be a mini-me to the Fiat system masquerading as a blockchain. This does not mean people cant gain value. Its actually the opposite. It is what will bring everyone value. ITS WHAT THE PEOPLE DEMAND.

If you are not actually interested in participating in this project that is fine. I simply suggest you move on. We have a difference in philosophy on monetary system and we need to live with our differences. The way I have configured the coming Sollars DAC is one for mass adoption of its currency unit by the general public. This coming system will not be owned with shares. It will be owned with bonds.

The general public will not switch to a system in mass that looks like their old FED system. What's the point? That is my philosophy and I have computed accordingly. You believe in something different and that is fine. That's what makes us human. Regards.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on March 30, 2016, 07:38:15 am
May be we need a  clear roadmap
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: tonyk on March 30, 2016, 08:39:28 am
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SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/

So these 10 million SolCerts represent 0.001% of a total 1 trillion bond fund?

(I don't understand bonds very well, to someone more familiar with limited crypto tokens, this pre-sale seems to be for a very small amount of future supply?)


Thanks for diving deep.  ;D Yes 1 SoLCert essentially equals one future Sollar through the Sollar Bond. But that is too complicated to explain to most people. At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin as we are trying to be a currency with it and not a commodity like Bitcoin or Bitshares. Our commodity is SOLCERTS and Sollar Bonds. That is more like Bitshares or a speculative asset. One can use SoLCerts/Sollar Bonds to speculate on the value of the future Sollar against the future Dollar. If you believe the Dollar will be here forever then no need to follow this project. If you dont then consider the vision and roadmap of our project. Read part 3 of that series. (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)

Check out our General FAQs section too: https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.y7lew7tfa

Whether Sollars supply gets to 1 Trillion or 60 Trillion like the Dollars market cap will all depend on adoption of the currency by regular everyday consumers. It is my 10 year goal to get it to 1 Trillion. And to start on that path is with SOLCERTS and Millennials. We are issuing assets the same way Bitcoin, the US government and Bitshares issued assets to fund itself out of thin air. This is no different except that we are creating a mainstream alternative with a brand to actually take on the Dollar. So if you believe in a stable alternative to the Dollar then believe in this... or not. Either way people participating in our pre-sale are essentially buying into that mainstream currency supply now through SOLCERTS. And if we are successful you are going to be glad you did. Hope this info helps.

Thanks, I appreciate the explanation.

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At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Given that a SOLCERT is a future Sollar and Sollars will be unlimited in supply, I'm still uncertain how the value of my investment will dramatically increase through adoption but I will look into it more at the links provided & hopefully understand it better.


The closest model to what you are offering via Solcerts that we have in crypto at the moment is Nubits. (Nubits, like Sollars and Sense are a stable unlimited supply coin, in their case pegged to the value of USD. https://nubits.com/)

The issuance of NuBits is controlled by NuShares shareholders. https://nubits.com/nushares/introduction
Most traditional investors (crypto or otherwise) would be much more interested in investing in and owning the underlying company, that issues Sollars, while mainstream would be more interested in owning & using NuBits/Sollars (Which a SolCert entitles you too.)

How does someone become a shareholder in the underlying company behind New Money?
(How does someone besides you get to have a say in the issuance of new Sollar bonds and what the received funds are spent on?)
Or will that come later? Thanks.

This is a hundred times worse than anything else I have ever seen*.
1.At least Nubits did not start by selling Nubits first and keeping all the actual shares NuShares (fed chairs) by a single person.
2. At least Nubits did not aim for selling 500K Nushares at different prices (different prices for a stable currency…. But hey this is just one of many inovations in the ‘new money’).
3. At least Nubits did not hide the fact what you are buying, well buried in the sale's pitch.
4.At least Nubits founders had a clear idea and reasoning (be it backed by a wrong theory) behind their model.
5. At least Nubits were not let by a film maker who believes that having a vision and a dream is all that one needs to call himself "Vitalik and ByteMaster" and the best man to lead a tech project as a result of that.

My utter disappointment is not with this project though. My disappointment will be if BM does not come and say something AT LEAST as soft as - "Guys you should seriously reconsider putting this on a more solid ground". Unless he does so he would have lost total respect by me, for being soft indecisive leader. One might even call him 2 faced when it comes to project on his platform as opposed by somewhere else. This has all the writings to be a total train rack and him expressing some caution regarding it is the least he can do to prevent bitshares being a collateral damage in this.
PS
Well, at least my conscious is clear now  (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22098.msg287894.html#msg287894) . I put it here, you read  it and you are warned. The rest is up to you.
I have been wrong more times in my life than I have been correct…. But this thing is such a utter nonsense that I simply cannot be wrong… unless I have been moved to a new parallel reality where the nonsense is the only thing that actually makes sense.

PSS
Since writing this response several days ago I have run into several other things that boggle my mind….
So the “worse than anything else I have ever seen” statement has a good rival now, fighting for the number one spot in my list.

PSSS
BTW Emperical  + 1 on all of your later posts after the one quoted. My mind is so overwhelmed by enormity of the illogicality of this thing that it literally stops me in my tracks when trying to explain the 200 ways it makes no sense what so ever.  I am glad you have the mind to calmly handle such a giant yarn (what yarn stupid tonyk… it is not a yarn it is a not -interconnected pile) of BS.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 30, 2016, 10:04:21 am
??? Part 2: http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-2-reserve/

....... And there is a reason why our launch on BitcoinTalk has been an early success. Despite being part of Bitshares.

......... We will never be a mini-me to the Fiat system masquerading as a blockchain. This does not mean people cant gain value. Its actually the opposite. It is what will bring everyone value. ITS WHAT THE PEOPLE DEMAND.


The general public will not switch to a system in mass that looks like their old FED system. What's the point?

Wow man i don´t know were to start here,  first you are in the bitshares forum in fact i buy some of your stuff not by your great personality, cause i dont even know you, but for the great support of some members of this forum, and you came here to say that your proyect is an early success despite being part of Bitshares lol no further comments on that. :D

Next thing is how you to express about Bitcoin and blockchain ( Fiat system masquerading), that tells me that you don´t understand what Bitcoin is all about,  in fact is a shame, the vast mayority of us are here because indeed understand  how the real world money system functions and the possible ways to change it.

The point is the people either change in mass just because you got nice sentiments about something or good intentions, the fact is that everyone go out every day and worked his fingers to the bone just to make a living, if something is not profiting or not convenient for them ya could be a fantastic idea nobody gives a shit, that's elementary economics, instead of  claiming raising funds you may probably ask for donations, here is not ICO possible cause you are offering nothing for your investors meanwhile you are receiving my hard earned money.

First llildur I want to say thank you for believing in this project with whatever you have donated. I greatly appreciate it  :)

I think you misunderstand my statement in speaking on Bitshares. It is not meant as a slight to you or any of the Bitshares community members. You have no idea how much I appreciate you all and it is why I proudly where my badge of Bitshares and powered by Bitshares.  :D

This is DESPITE individuals telling me not too. I say you stick with those who stuck with you. Look at the comment on our Explainer video for empirical reference.

The statement on Bitshares is actually meant as a truth we all know in our hearts. We all know BitcoinTalk folks dont really like us. They dont. As a matter of fact I was encouraged by many as we came closer to launch TO NOT launch a thread there that it was just a waste of time. And since I was involved with Bitshares that they would flame and FUD the project.

Because of how we approach our launch though (focusing on the things that no one else focuses on) we have seen the opposite reaction and its something I have argued for a long time. As a matter of fact I can remember back in 2014 Stan working tirelessly with paragraphs of clear and viable arguments against the trolls at BitcoinTalk who just would not give up. It was funny because I would read and really be intrigued by Stan's thoughts despite the futile efforts of those members to discredit it. It was laughable.

But he probably didn't know it. I wish I could have told him they really did not matter as their technology spoke for itself. Instead I actually came here... Anyways that is neither here nor there. I can tell you I do understand Bitcoin and its EXACTLY why I am part of Bitshares in the first place. And I don't have nice sentiments. Anyone who knows what we are doing knows the business mode. It is similar to PeerTracks/MUSE and has been expressed for ages on this thread and in the videos we have created.

We have a roadmap that starts in Hollywood and on KickStarter. We build from there. Latest video from channel. I know what I am doing and am an expert when it comes to my field and the demographic we are reaching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-y9Lxa4CSw

Again thank you sir for your participation. I in no way meant disrespect to you and your hard earned cash, nor anyone else who genuinely believes this can work on some level. Nothing in life is guaranteed but we will work our hardest to bring this project to a mainstream audience.

May be we need a  clear roadmap

Ebit thank you for your participation so far. I don't know that I can get any clearer than I've been so far in this thread. If you want a roadmap of exactly what is going to happen? For that only time will tell. I've done my best to lay out a pre-emptive roadmap of what is important to focus on as we are trying to reach a totally different audience.

This is not a typical crypto-currency project. What we are aiming to do in the short-term and what we even want to aim for in the long term has been laid out and expressed. But looking at Bitshares and Ethereum and as individuals who have been here since 2013 we should know roadmaps never stay the same.

Think of how much has changed since 2013 because of what we have learned. Look at the roadmap of Bitcoin. Seems it has gone off the road  :P

Look at Bitshares and Ethereum roadmap. Just think of how much has changed despite our early goals. They have changed significantly. I say that to say trust that I am an expert in my field. I have thought this out long and hard and will get Bitshares technology adopted. Keep watching we are just getting started  :)

Congratulations on launching your project Solomon and with your collaborations! Very very exciting! I don't have the funds to invest at this point but wish you the very best of luck.

Hey Ben! Thanks man! We've come a very long way.  :D

And still much more to go. But at least this time its with friends and comrades. Don't worry about it. Your words of encouragement are good enough! Its tough for one to put their vision out there, but honestly I'm very grateful to the Bitshares community coming behind this project in the way that it has.

Our overall image to the rest of the crypto-community is changing. A lot of us can feel it. People are genuinely interested in what we are doing and being civil with this project. They are asking more and more about Bitshares. Makes me happy because it is proving my original thesis out. That sometimes its not about the tech but the entrepreneur or people behind it.

With that let's stay positive and show the wider crypto-community that THIS is how you reach a mainstream audience. Not with Blockchain but with $ense #PoweredByBitshares #OnlyAtBitshares #OriginalRockStarDelegate

Yeah, Bitshares, Bitcoin, Ethereum it's all technology untill we have products that people really care. That's why entrepreneurs are standing up to launch products and business people care about (Sollywood TV, Echo Apps, PeerTracks, M.A.S and more to come...). These projects will take bitshares in another level. Mainstream don't even care if it's powered by Bitshares, Bitcoin or Ethereum Blockchains.

 +5% You are absolutely right. The platform is the base but it's the entrepreneurs that are going drive the adoption.

 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 30, 2016, 10:22:37 am
This is a hundred times worse than anything else I have ever seen*.
1.At least Nubits did not start by selling Nubits first and keeping all the actual shares NuShares (fed chairs) by a single person.
2. At least Nubits did not aim for selling 500K Nushares at different prices (different prices for a stable currency…. But hey this is just one of many inovations in the ‘new money’).
3. At least Nubits did not hide the fact what you are buying, well buried in the sale's pitch.
4.At least Nubits founders had a clear idea and reasoning (be it backed by a wrong theory) behind their model.
5. At least Nubits were not let by a film maker who believes that having a vision and a dream is all that one needs to call himself "Vitalik and ByteMaster" and the best man to lead a tech project as a result of that.

My utter disappointment is not with this project though. My disappointment will be if BM does not come and say something AT LEAST as soft as - "Guys you should seriously reconsider putting this on a more solid ground". Unless he does so he would have lost total respect by me, for being soft indecisive leader. One might even call him 2 faced when it comes to project on his platform as opposed by somewhere else. This has all the writings to be a total train rack and him expressing some caution regarding it is the least he can do to prevent bitshares being a collateral damage in this.
PS
Well, at least my conscious is clear now  (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22098.msg287894.html#msg287894) . I put it here, you read  it and you are warned. The rest is up to you.
I have been wrong more times in my life than I have been correct…. But this thing is such a utter nonsense that I simply cannot be wrong… unless I have been moved to a new parallel reality where the nonsense is the only thing that actually makes sense.

PSS
Since writing this response several days ago I have run into several other things that boggle my mind….
So the “worse than anything else I have ever seen” statement has a good rival now, fighting for the number one spot in my list.

PSSS
BTW Emperical  + 1 on all of your later posts after the one quoted. My mind is so overwhelmed by enormity of the illogicality of this thing that it literally stops me in my tracks when trying to explain the 200 ways it makes no sense what so ever.  I am glad you have the mind to calmly handle such a giant yarn (what yarn stupid tonyk… it is not a yarn it is a not -interconnected pile) of BS.

 +5% +5% +5%

Questions to Solar $ense:
A)When will CCEDK release the funds to you
B)Will you keep the BTS after crowd-sale or will you exchange them with other "stable" assets?


PS1  I think he has good intentions (Or at least I hope so)
PS2  I am looking close the project to see if only MARKETING @ A VISION can pump the price "significant"
PS3  Result oriented it could benefit BTS if same MARKETING methods are used(?) We will find out soon i guess...
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: svk on March 30, 2016, 10:26:24 am
Quote
SoLCerts is an example of using a token to represent a portion of the 1 trillion SSS Sollar bond fund. 10,000,000 SSS Sollar bonds will be represented through this (SoLCerts) token.

http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-4-solcerts/

So these 10 million SolCerts represent 0.001% of a total 1 trillion bond fund?

(I don't understand bonds very well, to someone more familiar with limited crypto tokens, this pre-sale seems to be for a very small amount of future supply?)


Thanks for diving deep.  ;D Yes 1 SoLCert essentially equals one future Sollar through the Sollar Bond. But that is too complicated to explain to most people. At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin as we are trying to be a currency with it and not a commodity like Bitcoin or Bitshares. Our commodity is SOLCERTS and Sollar Bonds. That is more like Bitshares or a speculative asset. One can use SoLCerts/Sollar Bonds to speculate on the value of the future Sollar against the future Dollar. If you believe the Dollar will be here forever then no need to follow this project. If you dont then consider the vision and roadmap of our project. Read part 3 of that series. (http://newmoney.sollars.com/new-money-funding-series-part-3-sollars-coming-dac-smart-money-tree/)

Check out our General FAQs section too: https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense/new-money-faqs-2d5e8e730caf#.y7lew7tfa

Whether Sollars supply gets to 1 Trillion or 60 Trillion like the Dollars market cap will all depend on adoption of the currency by regular everyday consumers. It is my 10 year goal to get it to 1 Trillion. And to start on that path is with SOLCERTS and Millennials. We are issuing assets the same way Bitcoin, the US government and Bitshares issued assets to fund itself out of thin air. This is no different except that we are creating a mainstream alternative with a brand to actually take on the Dollar. So if you believe in a stable alternative to the Dollar then believe in this... or not. Either way people participating in our pre-sale are essentially buying into that mainstream currency supply now through SOLCERTS. And if we are successful you are going to be glad you did. Hope this info helps.

Thanks, I appreciate the explanation.

Quote
At the end of the day a SOLCERT is a future Sollar. Sollars and Sense will be a stable unlimited supply coin

Given that a SOLCERT is a future Sollar and Sollars will be unlimited in supply, I'm still uncertain how the value of my investment will dramatically increase through adoption but I will look into it more at the links provided & hopefully understand it better.


The closest model to what you are offering via Solcerts that we have in crypto at the moment is Nubits. (Nubits, like Sollars and Sense are a stable unlimited supply coin, in their case pegged to the value of USD. https://nubits.com/)

The issuance of NuBits is controlled by NuShares shareholders. https://nubits.com/nushares/introduction
Most traditional investors (crypto or otherwise) would be much more interested in investing in and owning the underlying company, that issues Sollars, while mainstream would be more interested in owning & using NuBits/Sollars (Which a SolCert entitles you too.)

How does someone become a shareholder in the underlying company behind New Money?
(How does someone besides you get to have a say in the issuance of new Sollar bonds and what the received funds are spent on?)
Or will that come later? Thanks.

This is a hundred times worse than anything else I have ever seen*.
1.At least Nubits did not start by selling Nubits first and keeping all the actual shares NuShares (fed chairs) by a single person.
2. At least Nubits did not aim for selling 500K Nushares at different prices (different prices for a stable currency…. But hey this is just one of many inovations in the ‘new money’).
3. At least Nubits did not hide the fact what you are buying, well buried in the sale's pitch.
4.At least Nubits founders had a clear idea and reasoning (be it backed by a wrong theory) behind their model.
5. At least Nubits were not let by a film maker who believes that having a vision and a dream is all that one needs to call himself "Vitalik and ByteMaster" and the best man to lead a tech project as a result of that.

My utter disappointment is not with this project though. My disappointment will be if BM does not come and say something AT LEAST as soft as - "Guys you should seriously reconsider putting this on a more solid ground". Unless he does so he would have lost total respect by me, for being soft indecisive leader. One might even call him 2 faced when it comes to project on his platform as opposed by somewhere else. This has all the writings to be a total train rack and him expressing some caution regarding it is the least he can do to prevent bitshares being a collateral damage in this.
PS
Well, at least my conscious is clear now  (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22098.msg287894.html#msg287894) . I put it here, you read  it and you are warned. The rest is up to you.
I have been wrong more times in my life than I have been correct…. But this thing is such a utter nonsense that I simply cannot be wrong… unless I have been moved to a new parallel reality where the nonsense is the only thing that actually makes sense.

PSS
Since writing this response several days ago I have run into several other things that boggle my mind….
So the “worse than anything else I have ever seen” statement has a good rival now, fighting for the number one spot in my list.

PSSS
BTW Emperical  + 1 on all of your later posts after the one quoted. My mind is so overwhelmed by enormity of the illogicality of this thing that it literally stops me in my tracks when trying to explain the 200 ways it makes no sense what so ever.  I am glad you have the mind to calmly handle such a giant yarn (what yarn stupid tonyk… it is not a yarn it is a not -interconnected pile) of BS.

Nothing to add but quoted for support..
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 30, 2016, 11:24:37 am
@SolomonSollarsNSense I sent you a link on how you might want to structure a signature campaign.

Just a few thoughts:

* I would pay attention to the finance guys on here (even the ones that disagree with me ha). if they see issues with approach, I'd seriously listening to the feedback.
* The pre-sale made sense, it was a tiered structure, similar to what we've seen with other projects
* There's still a lot of questions on how the pre-sale, ICO and kickstarter all work together
* With your incredible film background, I hope you lean more towards experts outside your scope on the supply/financing side
* You've mentioned Muse a few times, I personally don't know if that's the shining example I'd use on how to organize a project
* I understand the long term goal from what you explained, I just don't think the fundamentals quite work (but can be tweaked)

This community can help you reach your long term goal, I'd listen to what they are saying about the finance fundamentals.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 30, 2016, 11:33:52 am
I'm not comfortable with this, I'll most likely look for an earlier exit. 
Best of luck and kick ass

These statements seem inconsistent. After reading the materials and looking at the videos, I don't know how you could possibly imagine a quick killing on this. If you invest in it, do it with heart. Short term speculators are not what this guy needs.

I like what's he trying to accomplish as an END GOAL, I just think there's too many unknowns as well as items that are subject to change to be in it long term for me anyway.  The ability to hold more auctions at whatever price he wants gives him the ability to undercut investors at all stages. It's his right, just not something I find particularly exciting. If the tokens were backed against something, that would be a different story.

I didn't say I was exiting tomorrow, I said an earlier exit than I was initially planning.  "Quick killing'? You are twisting my words, hopefully not intentionally.  What 'the guy needs' is funding, and that's exactly what many of us have already done.  If he didn't need any money, he could have easily just moved to Kickstarter.

I can appreciate your opinion and at the same time not see eye to eye with you. :) I believe Solomon believes in this project 100%. Unlike other projects, I've been very impressed with his quick responses and overall engagement. I just think reconsidering some fundamentals that have been suggested by others in the community would yield better results for everyone.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 30, 2016, 11:56:31 am
I just think reconsidering some fundamentals that have been suggested by others in the community would yield better results for everyone.

 +5%

We are just trying to transform a potentially WIN-LOOSE situation to a WIN-WIN situation....
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 30, 2016, 12:17:49 pm
I just think reconsidering some fundamentals that have been suggested by others in the community would yield better results for everyone.

 +5%

We are just trying to transform a potentially WIN-LOOSE situation to a WIN-WIN situation....

Trust that I have thought about these things long and hard. I have considered the opinions and approaches of many different philosophies and applications of finance and economics. I have seen them all fail for various reasons and have seen them all succeed in various degrees. None of them are perfect or guarantee fairness for everyone. I am of course considering things that have been talked about here but we are really getting ahead of ourselves.

Lets see what we can do in Hollywood first with Millennials. Last I checked no one is an expert at getting to them as it has not happened. So this can be very exciting for everyone involved. If you dont see value in that I dont know what to say...

I appreciate the questions and opinions of everyone even if they are of a negative nature. As we will all have to live with our words and actions when the future comes. The experts said Daniel Bytemaster Larimer could never pull of Bitshares and he did. I thank God everyday he did not listen to the Bitcoin financial experts. Who knows where we would be. I know his story motivates me... Likewise the experts said Vitalik's Ethereum proposal would never work and its economics were off and would never make anyone money EVER. I remember I was there. And I almost believed it.

But I remembered that people adopt various economic systems for reasons other than finance. Taking a holistic approach I realized that I might not want to put limits on what Vitalik may accomplish especially considering the psychological effect his proposal was having on people. I rightly analyzed even if the economics were unsound to some, or algorithms proposed eventual vaporware, as long as enough people believed in it personally, value could be created for Backers. As I am a believer that currency or money can be "backed" by anything it seems that notion is playing out correctly.

I say that to say many experts will say what we are doing just wont work on so many levels... And to that I guess we will see how this plays out.

Again I appreciate everyone in this community. It is impossible to please everyone and I am not here to do that. But this is not just a financial system. Its a movement we are trying to create here of the people by the people and for the people. The money is just a tool, but you need so much more. You need the people's hearts. I have that message and it will be powered by Bitshares. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: mint chocolate chip on March 30, 2016, 12:56:37 pm
Sollars will be a centralized currency artificially market-pegged to the Dollar.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 30, 2016, 01:54:53 pm
I have a few ideas I will toss over to you later tonight which addresses some of the concerns without modifying your model too much so we get the win/win.


Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 30, 2016, 03:08:57 pm
I have a few ideas I will toss over to you later tonight which addresses some of the concerns without modifying your model too much so we get the win/win.

This sounds like an excellent plan. Cant wait to see your proposals.  :D
Thank you for your continued support TravelsAsia. You've been a class act even in your disagreements.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 30, 2016, 06:42:36 pm
I have a few ideas I will toss over to you later tonight which addresses some of the concerns without modifying your model too much so we get the win/win.

This sounds like an excellent plan. Cant wait to see your proposals.  :D
Thank you for your continued support TravelsAsia. You've been a class act even in your disagreements.

Submitted.  The first 2 are getting clarification on the pre-sale and ICO based on my understanding and the feedback I've read in this thread.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 30, 2016, 07:28:13 pm
Solomon and I have been exchanging a lot of messages back and forth as I continue to strive for more clarification. Here's the actions I plan to take:

1. Once I get Solomon's next set of responses, I will type a very succinct summary of the pre-sales tokens. I had questions ranging from pricing for the ICO and future auctions.  I will submit that to Solomon to review.

2. Once Solomon approves, I will type up the summary for you guys to look at.

3. I submitted a rough on how the ICO might look.  They might be in a situation where all the tokens are sold in the pre-sale that an ICO won't happen.  However, if it does happen, I wanted (as I'm sure the community did as well) to know what to expect.

4. Once I get the information from #4 approved by Solomon, I will post it to the community in a very black and white way.  As a film guy, Solomon is a creative type, I'm more cut and dry on specifics.

5. I had a lot of questions which have already been addressed about the Kickstarter.  As soon as I feel I have enough, I will summarize and ask Solomon to review.

6. Once #5 is complete, I'll post to the community.

7. I also volunteered to help him get a sig campaign and possibly other social media rewards setup similar to Waves and Lisk.

I jumped in (no compensation requested) because I had lots of questions and big concerns. By asking a lot of questions, I feel like other will benefit as well as I'm starting to understand more about how the pieces come together.   I love all the creativity and verbose nature of the New Project Pre-Sale post, it's just a lot of info.  My goal is to summarize it in brief bullet points for people like me.

** Update **

I'm happy with the answers I received concerning the ICO and future auctions.  I will get that typed up in a few hours for Solomon to double check.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on March 30, 2016, 11:17:54 pm
 +5%
#sharebits TravelsAsia 99 ROSE
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: konelectric on March 31, 2016, 12:45:00 am
Solomon and I have been exchanging a lot of messages back and forth as I continue to strive for more clarification. Here's the actions I plan to take:

1. Once I get Solomon's next set of responses, I will type a very succinct summary of the pre-sales tokens. I had questions ranging from pricing for the ICO and future auctions.  I will submit that to Solomon to review.

2. Once Solomon approves, I will type up the summary for you guys to look at.

3. I submitted a rough on how the ICO might look.  They might be in a situation where all the tokens are sold in the pre-sale that an ICO won't happen.  However, if it does happen, I wanted (as I'm sure the community did as well) to know what to expect.

4. Once I get the information from #4 approved by Solomon, I will post it to the community in a very black and white way.  As a film guy, Solomon is a creative type, I'm more cut and dry on specifics.

5. I had a lot of questions which have already been addressed about the Kickstarter.  As soon as I feel I have enough, I will summarize and ask Solomon to review.

6. Once #5 is complete, I'll post to the community.

7. I also volunteered to help him get a sig campaign and possibly other social media rewards setup similar to Waves and Lisk.

I jumped in (no compensation requested) because I had lots of questions and big concerns. By asking a lot of questions, I feel like other will benefit as well as I'm starting to understand more about how the pieces come together.   I love all the creativity and verbose nature of the New Project Pre-Sale post, it's just a lot of info.  My goal is to summarize it in brief bullet points for people like me.

** Update **

I'm happy with the answers I received concerning the ICO and future auctions.  I will get that typed up in a few hours for Solomon to double check.
.
Did anyone tell you you're my hero
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 31, 2016, 12:51:57 am
Solomon and I have been exchanging a lot of messages back and forth as I continue to strive for more clarification. Here's the actions I plan to take:

1. Once I get Solomon's next set of responses, I will type a very succinct summary of the pre-sales tokens. I had questions ranging from pricing for the ICO and future auctions.  I will submit that to Solomon to review.

2. Once Solomon approves, I will type up the summary for you guys to look at.

3. I submitted a rough on how the ICO might look.  They might be in a situation where all the tokens are sold in the pre-sale that an ICO won't happen.  However, if it does happen, I wanted (as I'm sure the community did as well) to know what to expect.

4. Once I get the information from #4 approved by Solomon, I will post it to the community in a very black and white way.  As a film guy, Solomon is a creative type, I'm more cut and dry on specifics.

5. I had a lot of questions which have already been addressed about the Kickstarter.  As soon as I feel I have enough, I will summarize and ask Solomon to review.

6. Once #5 is complete, I'll post to the community.

7. I also volunteered to help him get a sig campaign and possibly other social media rewards setup similar to Waves and Lisk.

I jumped in (no compensation requested) because I had lots of questions and big concerns. By asking a lot of questions, I feel like other will benefit as well as I'm starting to understand more about how the pieces come together.   I love all the creativity and verbose nature of the New Project Pre-Sale post, it's just a lot of info.  My goal is to summarize it in brief bullet points for people like me.

** Update **

I'm happy with the answers I received concerning the ICO and future auctions.  I will get that typed up in a few hours for Solomon to double check.
.
Did anyone tell you you're my hero

You're my hero @konelectric  :D Thanks for the retweets I see you  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 01:33:17 am
@SolomonSollarsNSense   Just got back from the gym, typing it up now. Should be in your mailbox in the next 15 minutes.

All,

This will be a process.  Once I get the first set of answers up, I'll dig deeper on the next batch. 
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 02:25:29 am
Community FAQ Started

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22109.0.html

Please don't jump down my throat if your specific question hasn't been answered yet. I've had to dig back through all the material in the OP, exchange ideas back and forth with Solomon and try to slim down the responses the best I could.  I appreciate Solomon working with me, he's taken a lot of time out of his schedule to break down his vision. I still have a lot of questions, however, I'm much more comfortable with the tiered pre-sale and accompanying ICO.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: fuzzy on March 31, 2016, 04:18:07 am
Community FAQ Started

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22109.0.html

Please don't jump down my throat if your specific question hasn't been answered yet. I've had to dig back through all the material in the OP, exchange ideas back and forth with Solomon and try to slim down the responses the best I could.  I appreciate Solomon working with me, he's taken a lot of time out of his schedule to break down his vision. I still have a lot of questions, however, I'm much more comfortable with the tiered pre-sale and accompanying ICO.

agreed.  the tiered scale makes it so the market gets to choose the valuation.  when people stop buying you have an approximate starting valuation for all the tokens that were sold earlier at cheaper prices.  Those who buy later help to validate the decision of those who bought in during earlier tiers. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 05:17:49 am
Community FAQ Started

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22109.0.html

Please don't jump down my throat if your specific question hasn't been answered yet. I've had to dig back through all the material in the OP, exchange ideas back and forth with Solomon and try to slim down the responses the best I could.  I appreciate Solomon working with me, he's taken a lot of time out of his schedule to break down his vision. I still have a lot of questions, however, I'm much more comfortable with the tiered pre-sale and accompanying ICO.

agreed.  the tiered scale makes it so the market gets to choose the valuation.  when people stop buying you have an approximate starting valuation for all the tokens that were sold earlier at cheaper prices.  Those who buy later help to validate the decision of those who bought in during earlier tiers. :)

I'm helping Solomon come up with a reward stream. I will recommend we give some away to the Mumble listeners.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: fuzzy on March 31, 2016, 06:27:40 am
Community FAQ Started

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22109.0.html

Please don't jump down my throat if your specific question hasn't been answered yet. I've had to dig back through all the material in the OP, exchange ideas back and forth with Solomon and try to slim down the responses the best I could.  I appreciate Solomon working with me, he's taken a lot of time out of his schedule to break down his vision. I still have a lot of questions, however, I'm much more comfortable with the tiered pre-sale and accompanying ICO.

agreed.  the tiered scale makes it so the market gets to choose the valuation.  when people stop buying you have an approximate starting valuation for all the tokens that were sold earlier at cheaper prices.  Those who buy later help to validate the decision of those who bought in during earlier tiers. :)

I'm helping Solomon come up with a reward stream. I will recommend we give some away to the Mumble listeners.

cool! solomon already has some quests set up and prepared if you wanted to look into them and hks proposed rewards.  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on March 31, 2016, 06:51:01 am
Questions to Solar $ense:
A)When will CCEDK release the funds to you
B)Will you keep the BTS after crowd-sale or will you exchange them with other "stable" assets?

You missed that questions...  ;)


PS My assumption (or hope) is that you will keep the BTS untouched  and pay contributors with bts (?) or at least convert @ pay-time not sooner (since you are a bts fun like us  :D)
      (just worried that BTS price  will not take another hit since most of fund until now are BTS...)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 31, 2016, 11:40:30 am
a small update

104k solcerts left of tier 6
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 01:24:34 pm
a small update

104k solcerts left of tier 6

With the ICO starting a higher rate, I would guess this will go quickly. If haven't looked already, please take a look at the New Money Community FAQ thread I mentioned above.  It covers quite a few questions and will be updated again later in the next 24 hours.

** Update **

@liondani

I've posted the answer to your question in the FAQ (#14).   There will be obviously more follow-up on it!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 01:25:48 pm
Questions to Solar $ense:
A)When will CCEDK release the funds to you
B)Will you keep the BTS after crowd-sale or will you exchange them with other "stable" assets?

You missed that questions...  ;)


PS My assumption (or hope) is that you will keep the BTS untouched  and pay contributors with bts (?) or at least convert @ pay-time not sooner (since you are a bts fun like us  :D)
      (just worried that BTS price  will not take another hit since most of fund until now are BTS...)

Thank you for the nudge, I've sent these off for the next batch.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 31, 2016, 02:48:14 pm
Thank you to all who continue to believe in this project and help in your various ways. It means a lot and why I had the courage to go into unfriendly territory and let people know that I was part of Bitshares. And I will continue to do this.

I am now working on putting SICK! animations to this video to launch with our ICO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy6NYRqAhmE&feature=youtu.be

Gonna clean it up and make it look VERY nice! You all are invaluable to me and Bitshares will have its day again. I just need you all to continue to work with me. We are about to do what no currency community has done to date. And that is reach a mainstrea audience WITH A MESSAGE... #PoweredByBitshares #Sollywood #NewMoney #LetsMakeSense
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 31, 2016, 04:28:24 pm
UPDATE: And just like that Tier 6 is officially closed! Thank you to all who continue to support this project. We will reach a mainstream audience. New content coming soon!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: openledger on March 31, 2016, 04:28:41 pm
we are now in tier 7, and 900k left
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 05:11:06 pm
we are now in tier 7, and 900k left

Just a reminder, the ICO WILL NOT start lower than the highest tier there's activity on the pre-sale. There was some confusion earlier in the thread, we gained final clarification from Solomon and posted to the community faq.

I proposed a different type of tiered system for the ICO.  Instead of capping amounts at different tiers, the price will continue to increase throughout the ICO period.  It will reward pre-sale holders, incentivize ICO investors to buy up early which also benefits them at getting in much cheaper than the Kickstarter. The Kickstarter people will receive benefits for purchasing SollarDollars.  Everyone benefits.  I have no official capacity, just submitted some ideas based on my experience with other ICOs.

Once I get the official announcement on the ICO date, I'll make sure to start hitting social media and Bitcointalk. I hope you join me.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on March 31, 2016, 08:59:30 pm
ICO date confirmed: April 11, 2016

This is good news for pre-sale buyers.  I'm helping Solomon put together a rewards program through sigs and social media. It will give a chance to build up some buzz after the pre-sale so they have a very successful ICO.

I've recommend a short ICO period of 4 weeks.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Vizzini on March 31, 2016, 09:20:53 pm
Any chance of a better name for these? IMHO chance of success is limited when someone names the product after himself. Decent guy though he may be.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on March 31, 2016, 11:19:14 pm
Any chance of a better name for these? IMHO chance of success is limited when someone names the product after himself. Decent guy though he may be.

Thank you Vizzini for your concern. I believe you may be mistaken in your analysis. On the contrary many brands succeed exceedingly well precisely because they are named after their founders. As a matter of fact I believe that's why we are doing well now. Consider what I wrote last year about this very topic:


That's interesting... I've had this conversation before  :) If you are directing that at the Sollars and Sense/Sollywood TV brand fair enough. If you have an argument that could have convinced Walt Disney, Sam Walton, John Deere, Harvey Weinstein, Amber Crombie and Fitch, Air Jordan, Calvin Klein, Henry Ford, Jacuzzi, Ferruccio Lamborghini, and a million other successful brands derived from their real life owners to change then I actually want to hear it.

And that is not even close to 1/5th of the list. We will be fine  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 01, 2016, 01:37:21 am
I've proposed a rewards program similar to what we've seen with Lisk and Waves.  I believe the people promoting projects should be rewarded for their time.  If Solomon approves it, I recommend getting it launched right after (or close to) the end of this sale. Make it easy, make it fun.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Vizzini on April 01, 2016, 05:14:17 am
Any chance of a better name for these? IMHO chance of success is limited when someone names the product after himself. Decent guy though he may be.

That's interesting... I've had this conversation before  :) If you are directing that at the Sollars and Sense/Sollywood TV brand fair enough. If you have an argument that could have convinced Walt Disney, Sam Walton, John Deere, Harvey Weinstein, Amber Crombie and Fitch, Air Jordan, Calvin Klein, Henry Ford, Jacuzzi, Ferruccio Lamborghini, and a million other successful brands derived from their real life owners to change then I actually want to hear it.

And that is not even close to 1/5th of the list. We will be fine  :)

The consensus among most business experts is that if you name it after yourself and you're not a celebrity, you're going to have to spend more on marketing. If it's a product that needs explaining already, then it creates more work and expense for you. If I were seeing something new and unusual on Kickstarter, on the fence trying to decide if it's legit enough to jump in, and then I notice the guy used his own name for the product, that would be it. It would turn me off; I'd run for the hills. If you're an industrial magnate, railroad baron, swanky designer, or NBA superstar, then I see the value, but very few businesses in the latter 20th or early 21st century have gotten away with this. This is new money and I think you're going to have to work harder on it than you would if you just picked a humble, descriptive product name with less hubris.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on April 01, 2016, 06:45:12 am
 +5%
I think muse is a good name .Sollars is a good name too.

The name  must be easy to use,such as Sollars. Don't use  Sollars and Sense/Sollywood TV ,it's  too tedious   .
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Shentist on April 01, 2016, 06:50:43 am
Any chance of a better name for these? IMHO chance of success is limited when someone names the product after himself. Decent guy though he may be.

That's interesting... I've had this conversation before  :) If you are directing that at the Sollars and Sense/Sollywood TV brand fair enough. If you have an argument that could have convinced Walt Disney, Sam Walton, John Deere, Harvey Weinstein, Amber Crombie and Fitch, Air Jordan, Calvin Klein, Henry Ford, Jacuzzi, Ferruccio Lamborghini, and a million other successful brands derived from their real life owners to change then I actually want to hear it.

And that is not even close to 1/5th of the list. We will be fine  :)

The consensus among most business experts is that if you name it after yourself and you're not a celebrity, you're going to have to spend more on marketing. If it's a product that needs explaining already, then it creates more work and expense for you. If I were seeing something new and unusual on Kickstarter, on the fence trying to decide if it's legit enough to jump in, and then I notice the guy used his own name for the product, that would be it. It would turn me off; I'd run for the hills. If you're an industrial magnate, railroad baron, swanky designer, or NBA superstar, then I see the value, but very few businesses in the latter 20th or early 21st century have gotten away with this. This is new money and I think you're going to have to work harder on it than you would if you just picked a humble, descriptive product name with less hubris.

where can i found this?

if i read it correct. If i name my project "SHENTIST" and not "ALGAMANDA" i will have spend more on marketing, because SHENTIST is my name and ALAGAMANDA is not?

Makes no $ense!

The question should be, makes it $ense to call it SOLLARS? You need a easy to remember name and SOLLARS fits in this creteria.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: liondani on April 01, 2016, 08:33:42 am
The question should be, makes it $ense to call it SOLLARS? You need a easy to remember name and SOLLARS fits in this creteria.

It's easy to remember but already taken... with more... $ense?
http://solarcoin.org/en/front-page/
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 01, 2016, 07:16:23 pm
Paid position, worth over 100k bts (paid in Solcert). I'm working out details, but it will essentially be focused on handling the social media push and signature rewards through the 28 days of the ICO.

I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone might be interested? Working on a full description in the next 24 hours.

Solomon is giving over 100k SolCerts (500k BTS current value) in rewards. It's a nice chunk of change.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 01, 2016, 07:44:15 pm
Paid position, worth over 100k bts (paid in Solcert). I'm working out details, but it will essentially be focused on handling the social media push and signature rewards through the 28 days of the ICO.

I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone might be interested? Working on a full description in the next 24 hours.

Solomon is giving over 100k SolCerts (500k BTS current value) in rewards. It's a nice chunk of change.

I would check with Fuzzy @TravelsAsia . But we need to be 100% clear of what needs to be done in the 28 days. This has become very serious. Thanks  :D
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 01, 2016, 07:47:04 pm
Paid position, worth over 100k bts (paid in Solcert). I'm working out details, but it will essentially be focused on handling the social media push and signature rewards through the 28 days of the ICO.

I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone might be interested? Working on a full description in the next 24 hours.

Solomon is giving over 100k SolCerts (500k BTS current value) in rewards. It's a nice chunk of change.

I would check with Fuzzy @TravelsAsia . But we need to be 100% clear of what needs to be done in the 28 days. This has become very serious. Thanks  :D

Exactly, I need about 24 hours to get it all detailed.  I want to make it crystal clear on the expectations.  Once I get a rough, it'll go to you for approval.  I wish I had more time to run it, but I'm just fighting with capacity.  Once the details are out, you can quickly evaluate the people that are interested and go from there. I will still offer as much assistance as I can throughout the ICO for you.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 01, 2016, 08:04:45 pm
Paid position, worth over 100k bts (paid in Solcert). I'm working out details, but it will essentially be focused on handling the social media push and signature rewards through the 28 days of the ICO.

I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone might be interested? Working on a full description in the next 24 hours.

Solomon is giving over 100k SolCerts (500k BTS current value) in rewards. It's a nice chunk of change.

I would check with Fuzzy @TravelsAsia . But we need to be 100% clear of what needs to be done in the 28 days. This has become very serious. Thanks  :D

Exactly, I need about 24 hours to get it all detailed.  I want to make it crystal clear on the expectations.  Once I get a rough, it'll go to you for approval.  I wish I had more time to run it, but I'm just fighting with capacity.  Once the details are out, you can quickly evaluate the people that are interested and go from there. I will still offer as much assistance as I can throughout the ICO for you.

@fuzzy
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: lil_jay890 on April 01, 2016, 09:02:12 pm
Any chance of a better name for these? IMHO chance of success is limited when someone names the product after himself. Decent guy though he may be.

That's interesting... I've had this conversation before  :) If you are directing that at the Sollars and Sense/Sollywood TV brand fair enough. If you have an argument that could have convinced Walt Disney, Sam Walton, John Deere, Harvey Weinstein, Amber Crombie and Fitch, Air Jordan, Calvin Klein, Henry Ford, Jacuzzi, Ferruccio Lamborghini, and a million other successful brands derived from their real life owners to change then I actually want to hear it.

And that is not even close to 1/5th of the list. We will be fine  :)

The consensus among most business experts is that if you name it after yourself and you're not a celebrity, you're going to have to spend more on marketing. If it's a product that needs explaining already, then it creates more work and expense for you. If I were seeing something new and unusual on Kickstarter, on the fence trying to decide if it's legit enough to jump in, and then I notice the guy used his own name for the product, that would be it. It would turn me off; I'd run for the hills. If you're an industrial magnate, railroad baron, swanky designer, or NBA superstar, then I see the value, but very few businesses in the latter 20th or early 21st century have gotten away with this. This is new money and I think you're going to have to work harder on it than you would if you just picked a humble, descriptive product name with less hubris.

The companies you list like disney and wal-mart were all founded decades ago... I'm having trouble thinking of a company that names products after itself that was created in the last 10 years.  Doesn't seem like a great way to attract millennials and "new money"

Frankly it seems narcissistic and is a major turn off, on top of you already comparing yourself to Vitalik and Bytemaster.

PS... I am a millennial and I hate the way cable and Hollywood work.  If these things turn me off, they are going to turn off a lot of your target audience.  It would be an easy problem to address and change early.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 01, 2016, 09:15:40 pm
Any chance of a better name for these? IMHO chance of success is limited when someone names the product after himself. Decent guy though he may be.

That's interesting... I've had this conversation before  :) If you are directing that at the Sollars and Sense/Sollywood TV brand fair enough. If you have an argument that could have convinced Walt Disney, Sam Walton, John Deere, Harvey Weinstein, Amber Crombie and Fitch, Air Jordan, Calvin Klein, Henry Ford, Jacuzzi, Ferruccio Lamborghini, and a million other successful brands derived from their real life owners to change then I actually want to hear it.

And that is not even close to 1/5th of the list. We will be fine  :)

The consensus among most business experts is that if you name it after yourself and you're not a celebrity, you're going to have to spend more on marketing. If it's a product that needs explaining already, then it creates more work and expense for you. If I were seeing something new and unusual on Kickstarter, on the fence trying to decide if it's legit enough to jump in, and then I notice the guy used his own name for the product, that would be it. It would turn me off; I'd run for the hills. If you're an industrial magnate, railroad baron, swanky designer, or NBA superstar, then I see the value, but very few businesses in the latter 20th or early 21st century have gotten away with this. This is new money and I think you're going to have to work harder on it than you would if you just picked a humble, descriptive product name with less hubris.

The companies you list like disney and wal-mart were all founded decades ago... I'm having trouble thinking of a company that names products after itself that was created in the last 10 years.  Doesn't seem like a great way to attract millennials and "new money"

Frankly it seems narcissistic and is a major turn off, on top of you already comparing yourself to Vitalik and Bytemaster.

PS... I am a millennial and I hate the way cable and Hollywood work.  If these things turn me off, they are going to turn off a lot of your target audience.  It would be an easy problem to address and change early.

You might be too close to it as a cryptoguy. JoeDirt on Kickstarter might think it has something to do with solar or shining. Im much the same way, I have to remind myself people outside of this very small sphere look at things differently. I think the name is catchy, however, I think anything named Bit feels cheap (no offense to BTS).

Im just one opinion, I'm just happy the project is rolling like I envisoned when first sending my BTS. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: fuzzy on April 01, 2016, 09:24:01 pm
Paid position, worth over 100k bts (paid in Solcert). I'm working out details, but it will essentially be focused on handling the social media push and signature rewards through the 28 days of the ICO.

I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone might be interested? Working on a full description in the next 24 hours.

Solomon is giving over 100k SolCerts (500k BTS current value) in rewards. It's a nice chunk of change.

I would check with Fuzzy @TravelsAsia . But we need to be 100% clear of what needs to be done in the 28 days. This has become very serious. Thanks  :D

Exactly, I need about 24 hours to get it all detailed.  I want to make it crystal clear on the expectations.  Once I get a rough, it'll go to you for approval.  I wish I had more time to run it, but I'm just fighting with capacity.  Once the details are out, you can quickly evaluate the people that are interested and go from there. I will still offer as much assistance as I can throughout the ICO for you.

Yeh I am currently running the sollywood twitter and have plans to update it and probably set up some more stuff this week.  Let's chat travelasia.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Vizzini on April 01, 2016, 11:57:53 pm

where can i found this?

if i read it correct. If i name my project "SHENTIST" and not "ALGAMANDA" i will have spend more on marketing, because SHENTIST is my name and ALAGAMANDA is not?

Makes no $ense!

The question should be, makes it $ense to call it SOLLARS? You need a easy to remember name and SOLLARS fits in this creteria.

You can found your business on the blockchain (sorry, couldn't help it). Do a quick Google search and the rest will come up. Aside from the narcissistic suggestion, which another poster made, the main point here is that a new product with a new role requires that you educate the consumer. If your name is not as descriptive as it could be (as is the case when you name it after yourself), then you are stuck with more work educating people about what it is and why they need it. Comparing this to something like TRUMP hotels or ABERCROMBIE T-shirts is fallacious, because hotels and shirts are products with which the consumer is already very familiar, and the name is simply a brand of that product. Here, you're asking potential customers to trust you in a mighty way with the product itself, and if you're the kind of person who sticks your name on things, well, they may or may not swallow what you're trying to feed them. IMHO, it would be a lot less baggage to simply take yourself out of the way and come up with a decent product name. I am not trying to be an a-hole, though that may apply. I am pointing out a potential objection that you may face, and if you could eliminate it now, then why not do so?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 02, 2016, 12:28:40 am
Looks like Tier 7 is off to a great start (in closing that is)  :)

Thanks to all who continue to support this project. If it weren't for you and those who have graciously stepped up we wouldn't be where we are today. If we are successful YOU did it.

We are LITERALLY in the beginning stages of replicating exactly what Ethereum did marketing wise. And for that We will reach a mainstream audience. I can't do it alone. But together WE can and we will.

#LetsMakeSense #PoweredByBitshares
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: konelectric on April 02, 2016, 01:15:37 am

where can i found this?

if i read it correct. If i name my project "SHENTIST" and not "ALGAMANDA" i will have spend more on marketing, because SHENTIST is my name and ALAGAMANDA is not?

Makes no $ense!

The question should be, makes it $ense to call it SOLLARS? You need a easy to remember name and SOLLARS fits in this creteria.

You can found your business on the blockchain (sorry, couldn't help it). Do a quick Google search and the rest will come up. Aside from the narcissistic suggestion, which another poster made, the main point here is that a new product with a new role requires that you educate the consumer. If your name is not as descriptive as it could be (as is the case when you name it after yourself), then you are stuck with more work educating people about what it is and why they need it. Comparing this to something like TRUMP hotels or ABERCROMBIE T-shirts is fallacious, because hotels and shirts are products with which the consumer is already very familiar, and the name is simply a brand of that product. Here, you're asking potential customers to trust you in a mighty way with the product itself, and if you're the kind of person who sticks your name on things, well, they may or may not swallow what you're trying to feed them. IMHO, it would be a lot less baggage to simply take yourself out of the way and come up with a decent product name. I am not trying to be an a-hole, though that may apply. I am pointing out a potential objection that you may face, and if you could eliminate it now, then why not do so?

I think we're pioneering new territory here in the crypto world. What work the last ten years may not work the same here. Naming prodicts after yourself might be the new thing that works. Who knows.

When I first read the name  SolomonSollarsNSense I thought it sounded like a law firm name.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 02, 2016, 06:13:14 am
Paid position, worth over 100k bts (paid in Solcert). I'm working out details, but it will essentially be focused on handling the social media push and signature rewards through the 28 days of the ICO.

I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone might be interested? Working on a full description in the next 24 hours.

Solomon is giving over 100k SolCerts (500k BTS current value) in rewards. It's a nice chunk of change.

I would check with Fuzzy @TravelsAsia . But we need to be 100% clear of what needs to be done in the 28 days. This has become very serious. Thanks  :D

Exactly, I need about 24 hours to get it all detailed.  I want to make it crystal clear on the expectations.  Once I get a rough, it'll go to you for approval.  I wish I had more time to run it, but I'm just fighting with capacity.  Once the details are out, you can quickly evaluate the people that are interested and go from there. I will still offer as much assistance as I can throughout the ICO for you.

Yeh I am currently running the sollywood twitter and have plans to update it and probably set up some more stuff this week.  Let's chat travelasia.

Sounds good Fuzzy.  Over the 24 hours or so, I will type up the marketing campaign I ran by Solomon.  This will give you and anyone else that might be interested a good idea of the direction as well as an opportunity to modify it.  Once that's done, I'll request that Solomon do any follow-up emails/calls.  I'm also typing a rough ToDo list of everything from contacting exchanges (which we are already seeing success) to what to include in the ICO post. There's also some interesting cross promotional items that are being discussed which would add a LOT of value to Solcert holders besides just the pegged value.

My goal is to get it all wrapped up by the end of the weekend so Solomon and whoever is heading up the marketing can run with it.  At that point, I'll be around to pitch in here and there.  This has the potential to be something special, I'm glad I had a small part in it.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 02, 2016, 04:47:31 pm
Just a reminder, Solcerts which are valued at 5 BTS with  a 1:1 exchange for Sollars pegged at 1.00 with Solars N Sense moves to its own blockchain. This will be an automatic exchange with the logic built into the blockchain.

Been talking with Solomon about the trading pairs that will be ready to trade on Openedger after the ICO. We've also heard back from 4 other exchanges, sending follow-ups today and Ccing Solomon.

Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: ebit on April 03, 2016, 07:53:31 am
 +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 04, 2016, 10:36:43 am
+5%

2 days left. Once the ICO goes live, I think we are all going to be happy that we got in early. The key is for everyone that invested to spread the word.
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 04, 2016, 12:56:06 pm
+5%

2 days left. Once the ICO goes live, I think we are all going to be happy that we got in early. The key is for everyone that invested to spread the word.
+5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: TravelsAsia on April 04, 2016, 08:30:20 pm
How many left at the current level?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 04, 2016, 08:41:14 pm
How many left at the current level?

Just found out. Still about 650k SOLCERTS left in this Tier. With less than 48 hours left in the Pre-Sale. Thanks to all who keep participating!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 05, 2016, 01:09:46 am
Hey guys. If people could post all the Facebook trading groups of crypto-currency groups they know to this thread that would be nice. We are preparing for the marketing efforts of the ICO and need to know all the places that can be reached. We have a nice list but don't want to miss any of them. Thanks!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: maverick on April 05, 2016, 08:06:40 am
just spent some bts for this project, looks interesting  ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Ben Mason on April 05, 2016, 10:34:32 am
I'm in now too Solomon.  Very exciting!  I get a 'sense' that you have really taken on board lessons we've all learned  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Hypercube on April 05, 2016, 02:40:24 pm
I hope I still have some time to buy into the presale because my BTS isn't arriving on OL :)

How much more time do we have ?
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 05, 2016, 03:38:11 pm
I'm in now too Solomon.  Very exciting!  I get a 'sense' that you have really taken on board lessons we've all learned  ;D

Hey thanks  Man I'm trying  :D I'm not a perfect person by any means but you guys give me the confidence needed to push this and its working. I don't think any of us expected this type of response so I'm just trying to be grateful and wrap my head around the blessing. I mean seriously ZERO FUD on BitcoinTalk. Are you kidding me... Its bizarre lol  :P

I hope I still have some time to buy into the presale because my BTS isn't arriving on OL :)

How much more time do we have ?

Yes @Hypercube you do. Today is the last day though. At 11:59pm (CST Chicago) the Pre-Sale will unfortunately end. So that is essentially 13 1/2 hours left in the Pre-Sale. Email Ronny and he can probably work something out with you. Thanks HyperCube for your support!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: roadscape on April 05, 2016, 03:42:44 pm
This is undoubtedly an ambitious project but Solomon is a very driven guy. IMO it will come down to his ability to build up & organize the resources to make it a reality. Seems to be going well so far and I'm looking forward to seeing the next stage :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Dolphin76 on April 05, 2016, 04:06:27 pm
I'm in now too Solomon.  Very exciting!  I get a 'sense' that you have really taken on board lessons we've all learned  ;D

Hey thanks  Man I'm trying  :D I'm not a perfect person by any means but you guys give me the confidence needed to push this and its working. I don't think any of us expected this type of response so I'm just trying to be grateful and wrap my head around the blessing. I mean seriously ZERO FUD on BitcoinTalk. Are you kidding me... Its bizarre lol  :P

I hope I still have some time to buy into the presale because my BTS isn't arriving on OL :)

How much more time do we have ?

Yes @Hypercube you do. Today is the last day though. At 11:59pm (CST Chicago) the Pre-Sale will unfortunately end. So that is essentially 13 1/2 hours left in the Pre-Sale. Email Ronny and he can probably work something out with you. Thanks HyperCube for your support!

Sent you a PM :)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 05, 2016, 04:07:34 pm
This is undoubtedly an ambitious project but Solomon is a very driven guy. IMO it will come down to his ability to build up & organize the resources to make it a reality. Seems to be going well so far and I'm looking forward to seeing the next stage :)

Thanks Tim! You are absolutely correct. This is just the beginning and there is much work to be done. Looking forward to the next stage too  ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: Shentist on April 07, 2016, 05:17:08 am
i just listen to Troy Carters interview https://soundcloud.com/innovationcrush/119-troy-carter-an-empire-built-on-empathy
shortly after 30 minutes he asks for businessplans.

thought would be maybe a guy you want to make contact. Founder of http://atomfactory.com/about/
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on April 08, 2016, 03:34:56 pm
Hey GUYS! I'm on Mumble RIGHT NOW with the Bitshares community and we are talking about the New Money project. Come on in!
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: iHashFury on April 08, 2016, 09:06:23 pm
Want to promote BitShares!
Better call Sol  ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] New Money project & SOLCERT token
Post by: noflyzoe on April 08, 2016, 11:07:48 pm
i feel like im missing something here. why does something like this need a new currency if uber could do it without a currency?

or is that not the point? is it that nobody cares about a new currency so give them something to care about to essentially sneak in a new currency to boot?