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Title: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 10, 2016, 02:21:59 pm
crowdfunding/kickstarter killer
decentralized voting
decentralized exchange
decentralized reputation system
national currencies on the blockchain
KYC/AML-compliant​
burn protocol for assets on other chains
aimed at mass markets

"Our vision is of a future fully decentralized, open cloud platform which will be used by all businesses as an universal data storage and transaction medium, some kind of a decentralized cloud to which all humanity has access."
https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-platform-vision-a532840ba061

Wavesplatform whitepaper: http://wavesplatform.com/whitepaper_v0.pdf
Abstract.
WAVES is a decentralized blockchain platform fоcusing on custom blockchain tokens operations. National currencies transfer is maintained on the WAVES blockchain through compliant gateway operators. Decentralized token exchange facilitates fundraising, crowdfunding, and trading of financial instruments on the blockchain. Lightweight clients provide an easy installation procedure and a flat learning curve for end users.

• 100 million issued tokens
• POS consensus algorithm
• Extensible custom transactions system
• Plugin/Blockchain apps system
• Decentralized reputation system

Sasha Ivanov: founder and CEO of WAVES project.
Formerly the creator of Coinomat.com, CoinoUSD, coinoindex.com.
Created blockchain-powered venture fund http://cryptoasset.fund/, http://nextrading.fund/

Waves ICO starts April 12, 2016 and ends May 31, 2016:

ICO website: ico.wavesplatform.com

The total tokens supply stands at 100 milllion.

15 million tokens are reserved for bounties and the development team in the following proportions:
- 1 million tokens will be distributed to early supporters
- 1 million tokens reserved for post-ICO bounties
- 4 million tokens reserved for strategic partners and backers
- 9 million tokens withheld by the development team.

twitter: https://twitter.com/wavesplatform
https://www.facebook.com/wavesplatform
team slack: http://slack.wavesplatform.com/

http://wavesplatform.com

https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-newsletter-no-1-a9826d739cf6#.6h2yyl397

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.0
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: -banano- on April 10, 2016, 02:52:54 pm
10 second blocktimes

no smartcoins (only colored coins)

yawn..


(http://cdnimg.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/cat-funny-sleep-on-work.jpg?cfaea8)


Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 10, 2016, 03:28:56 pm
10 second blocktimes

no smartcoins (only colored coins)

yawn..

(http://cdnimg.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/cat-funny-sleep-on-work.jpg?cfaea8)

Q: Crypto has really diversified in the last couple of years - there are protocols out there for just about everything. Anonymity, smart contracts, 2.0, storage, proof-of-audit, blockchain-as-a-service… What will WAVES’ unique selling point be?

A: We're focusing on mass adoption. It might seem to be a little pretentious, but our focus is exactly that - we're building the system with a very flat learning curve, with interfaces familiar from online banking and trading experiences, integrated fiat currencies, and with the main user client being just a browser plugin. After the plugin installation a user has a decentralized kickstarter/payment system functionality right in ther browser!

http://bitscan.com/articles/making-waves-part-1
http://bitscan.com/articles/making-waves-part-2

Bonafides:
NXT supergeek JL777 confirmed advisor/investor: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.msg14104607#msg14104607
JL777: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372879.0

MORE:

"After the success of Ethereum project many people are asking us why we're launching WAVES, cannot everything be done on Ethereum? Obviously everything cannot be done on one platform, however versatile it might be. I would summarize our approach to be complementary to Ethereum. We are ascending from maybe more trivial problems, such as usability, flat learning curve for end-users, to more fundamental ones - such as consensus algorithms, reducing transaction times, scaling issues. We believe that current blockchain technology is "production-ready" so to say, and should already be made accessible to the widest audience possible."
https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-platform-vision-a532840ba061
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Shentist on April 10, 2016, 03:34:35 pm
they claim to get the trading "anonym" did you see it how this will work?
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Akado on April 10, 2016, 04:12:11 pm

Q: Crypto has really diversified in the last couple of years - there are protocols out there for just about everything. Anonymity, smart contracts, 2.0, storage, proof-of-audit, blockchain-as-a-service… What will WAVES’ unique selling point be?

A: We're focusing on mass adoption. It might seem to be a little pretentious, but our focus is exactly that - we're building the system with a very flat learning curve, with interfaces familiar from online banking and trading experiences, integrated fiat currencies, and with the main user client being just a browser plugin. After the plugin installation a user has a decentralized kickstarter/payment system functionality right in ther browser!

LOL the type of answer that answers nothing. Every project wants mass adoption. I'm yet to know what their unique selling point is. What functionalities will they focus on? What will be the main objective of whatever they're building?

Honestly this kind of seems like bitshares, just on a different chain.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: -banano- on April 10, 2016, 04:15:22 pm
Honestly this kind of seems like bitshares, just on a different chain.

More like Ripple:

"trusted" 3rd party asset backed currencies, no smartcoins (can be shorted into existence by anyone)

But it looks like there might be more assets on their DEX
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 10, 2016, 04:24:40 pm

Q: Crypto has really diversified in the last couple of years - there are protocols out there for just about everything. Anonymity, smart contracts, 2.0, storage, proof-of-audit, blockchain-as-a-service… What will WAVES’ unique selling point be?

A: We're focusing on mass adoption. It might seem to be a little pretentious, but our focus is exactly that - we're building the system with a very flat learning curve, with interfaces familiar from online banking and trading experiences, integrated fiat currencies, and with the main user client being just a browser plugin. After the plugin installation a user has a decentralized kickstarter/payment system functionality right in ther browser!

LOL the type of answer that answers nothing. Every project wants mass adoption. I'm yet to know what their unique selling point is. What functionalities will they focus on? What will be the main objective of whatever they're building?

Honestly this kind of seems like bitshares, just on a different chain.

I'm not advocating anything. I do find it interesting as a crypto investor:

“Our primary users will be crowdfunding projects in the first place. The system will allow them to launch a fundraising campaign in just a few minutes. The system will also use tokens pegged to real-life currencies with payment system and bank backing. At the next phase of the system’s development, we will encourage real businesses to issue their stock on Waves blockchain. We pay much attention to compatibility between the technologies and regulation. Our aim here at Waves is to create an ecosystem fully compliant with the regulations for stock and remittances.”

http://forklog.net/launch-of-decentralized-crowdfunding-and-trading-platform-waves-announced/
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 10, 2016, 05:17:21 pm
If we really gave a shit about competing for "mass adoption" then we would 1up these waves guys by providing liquidity for their equity crowdfunder between the time their crowdfunder ends and their coin becomes liquid on an external exchange.

So that everyone is asking:

if they are the global leader in ICO UIA's, then why is their equity unit trading exclusively on the BTS blockchain? (irony as marketing buzz)

You know, steal their thunder, by using our exchange the way it was meant to be used.

You know, just like we did with Lisk (got all that free marketing buzz that helped out mass adoption):


Not a bad idea really:

1. Everyone here pledge some of Lisk (that we will be compensated for at the average selling price when Lisk becomes liquid).
2. Someone (call him the Orchestrator), creates a UIA from the total pool and builds a market in bitUSD like this:

1000 bitLisk at 0.10 bitUSD each
2000 bitLisk at 0.15 bitUSD each
3000 bitLisk at 0.20 bitUSD each
4000 bitLisk at 0.25 bitUSD each
etc.

This will create a buzz around the BitShares platform for the next three weeks that is worth it's weight in bitGOLD

This will make people try the BitShares wallet and experience the kickass-ness first hand.

Then when the Lisk is liquid, all of us who pledged Lisk, send them to the Orchestrator who sends the winners their Lisk as the owners of bitLisk redeem them for the real thing.  The Orchestrator sends us bitUSD (average selling price) for our Lisk.

To make this easier for the orchestrator we can make 1 bitLisk redeemable for something larger like 100 Lisk, so that there are not a million redeemers who want Lisk dust.

If we are lucky, those who buy bitLisk will try to resell it on the market before the Lisk becomes liquid, and we will have a fully functioning free market of Lisk/bitUSD that we can brag about and create buzz, and teach people about BitShares.

To compensate the Orchestrator, we can all pitch in and pay him like $xxx

I know that Ander said that he bought some, and I would pledge some.  Who else would pledge some, and who wants to be the Orchestrator (tell us your fee).

Overall, great idea.  All we have to do to teach the world about BitShares is to pool risk.

This is an effective way to leverage all the buzz created by the Lisk team before they become the world's largest DPOS cryptocurrency.  The best case scenario is that we remain the world's largest DPOS after Lisk launches.

What do you say guys?

Who's up to defend our first mover advantage?

But overall, it looks like a DPOS community helping another DPOS community, bringing buzz to us all!




TO INFINITY AND BEYONDDDDDDD BITCOINNNNNN








(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHLrdoUUYAAd9SF.jpg:large)

Oh wait, I forgot, nobody here likes to get buzzed...



Not worth the risk?

Dude, what the fuk r u smoking, and can you please pass it on over!  You're obviously not getting it.  What is 700 wallet downloads worth to us right now?!  Or 200 new unique people learning how to use BitShares.  Or 20 people getting hooked on mainlining smartcoins worth?!?!?!?!  Ever hear of "marketing"??

Yes, you are correct that there is no way to prove that we are going to send the Lisk to the buyers of bitLisk.

and Yes, our "Orchestrator" can just run off with the bitUSD that the purchasers of bitLisk sent him.

But if the Orchestrator is, say for instance, Fuzzy, and we restrict the people allowed to pledge to those of us who told us their address:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivwuANB1Syo#t=5m56s

Then, if anyone gets scammed here, the next BitShares road trip will be a video of me and Tuck driving to Philly and kicking soms bitAsshole's ass!!

Get it.

We leverage the trust that we have built up within our community, against the hype brought forth by the Lisk developers to create BITSHARZZ buzz!
 
What's the matter, don't you trust Fuzzy?

You calling Riverhead a liar and a thief?

I trust those guys.  Do you?

And what is that trust worth, and what can we use it for ?

And what can we gain by putting it to the test?

If we can't even hold a simple risk pool among our community, then how can we expect people to trust our "federation of delegates" which is the heart of our "trustless" network!

If we don't trust our community then no one will.

The trust of our community is our greatest asset, and I would have to say that it is currently underutilized.  Disagree with that statement!

Should we stop trusting Stan and Dan?

What about Fuck the Man?

The reason why there is no Lisk market currently is because there is no trustworthy group of people supporting one.  Trustworthy groups are hard to find.  and if you had a trustworthy group today, then you could do something unprecedented (create a Lisk market and get every troll on the trollbox talking about BTS)(duh?). Gee where can I find a trustworthy community....Geee let me think....If I only had a trustworthy community, then I could bring new users to BitShares..... hmmmmm...

Are we trustworthy?

What is our community's reputation worth?

Let's find out.  The higher the price of Lisk rises, the more people trust our "federation of servers" that lies at the core of BitShares

And take another step back further, what are we talking about :

a few hundred bucks for a few hundred wallet downloads?

hell, that's worth it for the exposure alone!

Hell, if Fuzzy runs off with the $400 kitty, never to be seen from again, I'm sure that me, uncle onceuponatime, Tuck, Ronny, Cob, KenCode, and maybe even the great superfan Stan himself could pool together the difference just to save the community the embarrassment!

Why on earth would Stan screw us?  He's the hippest cat I know:
http://www.popsugar.com/tech/Popular-Internet-Slang-Words-37912438#photo-37912463


so chillax poopers, I'm trying to party here


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cdB7UslgAEE/TbcXq8Foy0I/AAAAAAAAAUE/0MsE8xuwuKY/s1600/ariannyatthepool3.jpg)

relax


it's all right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk8RuIM2NmA#t=56s
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: yvv on April 10, 2016, 05:54:37 pm
Quote
At the next phase of the system’s development, we will encourage real businesses to issue their stock on Waves blockchain.

And how exactly are you going to do this?
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 10, 2016, 06:27:04 pm
I've been planning to jump in on this on 4/12 simply because of jl777's track record of making my crypto holdings expand.


Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 10, 2016, 06:44:36 pm
Yeah if Supernet was NXT2.0

then waves looks like Supernet2.0

same devs new money just like LISK/Crypti
 
Im sure everyone who owns BTS/ETH/IOTA/LISK will buy some at some point. To not be diversified in the 2.0 space is silly.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: tbone on April 10, 2016, 07:12:33 pm
Where are you seeing 10s blocktimes for Waves?  Thanks.


10 second blocktimes

no smartcoins (only colored coins)

yawn..


(http://cdnimg.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/cat-funny-sleep-on-work.jpg?cfaea8)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 12, 2016, 02:26:55 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

To which I reply: Hey, open source is open source.  ;)

More: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.msg14520242#msg14520242
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: xeroc on April 12, 2016, 03:35:15 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

To which I reply: Hey, open source is open source.  ;)
I can tell you with certainty that xeroc is not part of scorex

:-P
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 12, 2016, 04:45:26 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

Gotta love it!  ;)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 12, 2016, 06:44:55 pm
CORE interview starts on page 21: http://coremedia.info/index.php/core-magazine
http://www.joomag.com/magazine/core-media-april-2016/0815564001457492657?short

The Merkle: http://themerkle.com/ultimate-custom-blockchain-tokens-platform-waves-to-launch-ico/

Waves generated ~4k btc on the first day of the ico:  https://ico.wavesplatform.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Mav0VKVPs
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: ivglavas on April 13, 2016, 10:43:21 pm
Well again we see some radical opinions on bts community.

It doesn't matter do they have better or worst tech then BTS, only thing that matters here is their interface. Blockchain works. So if they have colored coins solution with kickstarters easy to do web site, more people will use them and BTS will be posponed for near future.

Everyone is in win win situation, great job for guys in NXT about this project!

Ps. Someone mentioned Lisk as a copy of ETH... As I see it Lisk is talking english (c++ javascript, html), ETH japanise (c). There is always a reason why people contribute that much so feel free not to talk how bad others are, but to talk how good they are..

Best to all people!

Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Waves
Post by: yvv on April 14, 2016, 01:17:43 am
Quote
It doesn't matter do they have better or worst tech then BTS, only thing that matters here is their interface.

Where can I see it?
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: testz on April 14, 2016, 08:23:11 am
Ps. Someone mentioned Lisk as a copy of ETH... As I see it Lisk is talking english (c++ javascript, html), ETH japanise (c). There is always a reason why people contribute that much so feel free not to talk how bad others are, but to talk how good they are..

AFAIK Lisk is talking Vietnamese (node.js) and mostly was developed by Boris Povod as an Crypti. Today Lisk it's a fork of Crypti without any additional yet, but with a huge plans.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 14, 2016, 02:13:28 pm
WAVES raises $2m in 24 hours in bid to take on permissioned blockchains
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/waves-raises-2m-24-hours-bid-take-permissioned-blockchains-1554785
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 14, 2016, 02:23:10 pm
WAVES raises $2m in 24 hours in bid to take on permissioned blockchains
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/waves-raises-2m-24-hours-bid-take-permissioned-blockchains-1554785

Even more impressive was how fast they raised the ire of IOHK. ;)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: yvv on April 14, 2016, 02:47:31 pm
WAVES raises $2m in 24 hours in bid to take on permissioned blockchains
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/waves-raises-2m-24-hours-bid-take-permissioned-blockchains-1554785

Holy crap, $2m in 24 hours without having even a prototype of product. Internet is really full of naive idiots.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 14, 2016, 03:01:18 pm
Holy crap, $2m in 24 hours without having even a prototype of product. Internet is really full of naive idiots.

!RemindMe 8 months

;)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: jsidhu on April 14, 2016, 07:51:18 pm
They basically used a non production ready system and plugged in their transaction module and consensus module with a few lines of code and called it a day... next they will work on "marketing" and keeping up to date with scorex code base :) worth 4k btc? no more like 40btc max.

Their goal was to hit 1000 btc by the end lol... people are pretty stupid in crypto.

Not sure how they handle pegging of the fiat assets on the blockchain.

"Asset-to-asset trading makes it possible to provide a stock market-like trading interface, by allowing
trading against USD, EUR, CNY, and so on. All in all, the platform interface is closer to traditional
financial interfaces than to a normal cryptocurrency client. We find it important to provide an
interface to which most users are already well accustomed, at the same time as empowering it with
blockchain technology. Users can do things they were unable to do with traditional financial
platforms, but the learning curve remains flat, which is a key to mass-market adoption.
"


LPOS mechanism is the most interesting part of this project... it might be their innovation they bring to the table.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on April 14, 2016, 08:36:04 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

Gotta love it!  ;)

So now Charles Hoskinson has been unhappy with the Bitshares, Ethereum, and Waves teams.  Am I missing any?  Probably.

The common factor in all your failed relationships is you.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 14, 2016, 09:35:13 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

Gotta love it!  ;)

So now Charles Hoskinson has been unhappy with the Bitshares, Ethereum, and Waves teams.  Am I missing any?  Probably.

The common factor in all your failed relationships is you.

I cover this in my upcoming ebook titled ...

How To Become Crypto-Wealthy 101

  1. If Charles Hoskinson is making angry post towards the project, invest in the project.
  2. Sell the bubble.
  3. Rinse & Repeat as necessary.
 

Disclaimer : This was posted with much respect for Charles and his abilities, but I cannot deny the success of the system. ;)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 14, 2016, 09:42:03 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

Gotta love it!  ;)

So now Charles Hoskinson has been unhappy with the Bitshares, Ethereum, and Waves teams.  Am I missing any?  Probably.

The common factor in all your failed relationships is you.

I cover this in my upcoming ebook titled ...

How To Become Crypto-Wealthy 101

  1. If Charles Hoskinson is making angry post towards the project, invest in the project.
  2. Sell the bubble.
  3. Rinse & Repeat as necessary.
 

Disclaimer : This was posted with much respect for Charles and his abilities, but I cannot deny the success of the system. ;)

Exactly.

More media puff:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/blockchain-platform-waves-raise-more-than-2m-at-the-start-of-the-crowdsale-campaign/

https://news.bitcoin.com/waves-raises-2m-crowdfunding/

...and what's this? https://bitkapital.com/
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: jsidhu on April 15, 2016, 03:27:06 pm
He just.butthurt when he saw amount of btc waves got... waves just plugged in 2 modules  which is intention of score x platform
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 15, 2016, 05:13:08 pm
interesting: http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/04/14/waves-ico-ddos-attack/

Quote
One of the exciting uses of WAVES lies in its adoption by the traditional finance sector where the financial institutions can support and issue WAVES tokens in place of legal tenders and financial instruments. These tokens, carrying the same value as the assigned fiat currency can then be used for making transactions, maintaining cash reserves and more. It will also enable KYC and AML enabled blockchain services depending upon the segment of the industry it is being used in.

The WAVES platform operates on a proof of stake protocol and shares many similarities with Ethereum and Ripple protocols. The system is expected to share few similarities with Ethereum’s Casper and Ripple-like gateways for transactions.

If it achieves mass adoption, then WAVES can be used to create multiple decentralized applications catering for multiple sectors, all operating over a single blockchain. It will also help the institutions maintain different degrees of transparency in their operations along with the inclusion of decentralized KYC/AML process integration.


and this: http://themerkle.com/waves-ico-after-day-one/

Quote
It is a time of significant ICOs, with other recent offerings raising millions of dollars in funding. WAVES has similarly caught the interest of the cryptocurrency community and proven extremely popular – boding extremely well for the development and marketing of the platform in the coming weeks and months. With a focus on user adoption, crowdfunding and integration for fiat tokens, development on WAVESis continuing throughout the ICO and the first lite clients should be ready for use at the end of the fundraiser, or shortly after the process finishes.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 15, 2016, 05:39:13 pm
interesting: http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/04/14/waves-ico-ddos-attack/
and this: http://themerkle.com/waves-ico-after-day-one/

FOMO!
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on April 18, 2016, 07:43:54 pm
Waves launches test net: http://themerkle.com/waves-testnet-client-now-available/
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 19, 2016, 08:49:12 pm
BTC invested to date : 5358
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 01, 2016, 11:41:17 pm
Everyone loaded up on Waves right?   I cycled some Lisk profits into it.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on June 02, 2016, 12:13:26 am
Everyone loaded up on Waves right?   I cycled some Lisk profits into it.

Lol I grabbed a little bit. Can't believe how huge the ICO became. Curious to see where it goes.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 02, 2016, 06:14:06 pm
Everyone loaded up on Waves right?   I cycled some Lisk profits into it.

Lol I grabbed a little bit. Can't believe how huge the ICO became. Curious to see where it goes.

I know, my total Waves fell almost 20000 on the final day, that was crazy how much they got at the end.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on June 03, 2016, 05:32:07 am
I know, my total Waves fell almost 20000 on the final day, that was crazy how much they got at the end.

29662 BTC.

#6 on all time crowdfund list. $2 mio behind Ethereum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Empirical1.2 on June 08, 2016, 03:25:33 pm
Charles Hoskinson not happy with Waves team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.0

Gotta love it!  ;)

So now Charles Hoskinson has been unhappy with the Bitshares, Ethereum, and Waves teams.  Am I missing any?  Probably.

The common factor in all your failed relationships is you.

I've not always been positive about Charles but I did suggest LSK should approach him.

LSK/Max should perhaps approach Charles Hoskinson at that conference, he was a founder of BTS, played a significant role in Ethereum and I think is somehow involved in the tech behind Waves but not endorsing it/involved. So if there's something he's working on that could be applied to/help LSK that could be a valuable association.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg14989721#msg14989721

I see they've announced that he will be a senior advisor to LSK

https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-adds-charles-hoskinson-steven-nerayoff-as-senior-advisors-to-facilitate-product-development-5a2260613699#.a5yv55sg3

Given Max's inexperience, I think Charles & Steven in an advisory role will be extremely valuable as will their contacts & experience in the industry.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 14, 2016, 05:48:31 pm
Getting close to release.  Waves is the new BTS!  Lets see what it can do.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: yvv on June 14, 2016, 06:11:16 pm
There is no way they can deliver what they promise. This is a pyramid.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 14, 2016, 08:04:35 pm
Getting close to release.  Waves is the new BTS!  Lets see what it can do.

If by BTS you mean Ripple.. then I agree. :)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 14, 2016, 08:27:52 pm
Getting close to release.  Waves is the new BTS!  Lets see what it can do.

If by BTS you mean Ripple.. then I agree. :)

Well, its ALSO the new ripple, but not owned 80% by ripple labs.  (Only owned ~15% by the dev team). 
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Chronos on June 14, 2016, 10:44:16 pm
(Only owned ~15% by the dev team).
"Only"  ???
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: bitsharesbrazil on June 15, 2016, 12:17:45 am
(Only owned ~15% by the dev team).
"Only"  ???

dev + biginvestor probably have much more than this......so they gain some money in ico n hold most of coins n dont need to spend a buck to deal with both sides of orderbook....
I dont expect nothing big from this...too much ico...people will see the way is down from there on short term, crypto kingdom didnt come to make all our dreams come true, but to destroy most
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 15, 2016, 05:41:13 pm
(Only owned ~15% by the dev team).
"Only"  ???

Yeah I know.  15% owned by the devs is only low in comparison to Ripple. :P
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: unreadPostsSinceLastVisit on June 16, 2016, 02:47:55 am
on a whim, I sent 0.1 btc to the ICO last minute.

last week I sold 250/276 waves for 0.15 btc.

I suck at trading, so I'm pleased with this 0.05 btc gain.

my thinking is now I'll watch what happens after it hits exchanges. if it has enough market cap to retain traction after the inevitable post release dump, I'll buy back in.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 17, 2016, 03:27:19 am
on a whim, I sent 0.1 btc to the ICO last minute.

last week I sold 250/276 waves for 0.15 btc.

I suck at trading, so I'm pleased with this 0.05 btc gain.

my thinking is now I'll watch what happens after it hits exchanges. if it has enough market cap to retain traction after the inevitable post release dump, I'll buy back in.

I feel like you easily could have gotten at least double that by just waiting for trading to open on polo.  And thne maybe waiting a day or two for the first pump.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: unreadPostsSinceLastVisit on June 17, 2016, 03:36:19 am
on a whim, I sent 0.1 btc to the ICO last minute.

last week I sold 250/276 waves for 0.15 btc.

I suck at trading, so I'm pleased with this 0.05 btc gain.

my thinking is now I'll watch what happens after it hits exchanges. if it has enough market cap to retain traction after the inevitable post release dump, I'll buy back in.

I feel like you easily could have gotten at least double that by just waiting for trading to open on polo.  And thne maybe waiting a day or two for the first pump.

I was thinking that too, but after the pump came on I realized that I wasn't going to easily be able to replace BTC for a while (if ever again) and decided not to chance it. I'd have to do battle with a flajillion other sellers and I'd probably lose.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on June 22, 2016, 09:55:19 am
Well, do we hodl or just dump it? What a terrible first few day's performance. Can't believe it's not on polo.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: werneo on June 23, 2016, 08:34:50 pm
Wavestalk launched:
https://wavestalk.org

Lots of Bids at and below the ICO price, while the Ask landscape seems pretty thin: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-WAVES

Pretty boring trading activity at bittrex. It should get more interesting after Polo trading starts.

From the FAQ at wavestalk:
Q: What is the difference between Waves and BitShares/OpenLedger?

A: BitShares differs from Waves in two fundamental ways. First, its consensus algorithm is DPoS, meaning that only a limited number of ‘delegates’ have the power to validate blockchain transactions, as opposed to the PoS consensus where every full node is able to do it. This means that the Waves platform supports full decentralisation. The second difference is the feasibility of OpenLedger’s ‘market peg’ for its fiat assets. This is of course open to discussion, but it is doubtful that any bank or large corporation will ever be happy to trust their money to such an approach.
All current coloured coins implementations have severe limitations. Bitcoin blockchain-based tokens are restricted by the 10-minute confirmation times. In Ethereum, it’s quite difficult to create a decentralised exchange. OpenLedger is a web-interface to BitShares blockchain; it is not a coloured coins protocol.
Waves is focused specifically on custom blockchain tokens. We want to do for blockchain tokens what Ethereum is doing for Bitcoin scripting – develop and perfect it.

yadda yadda

https://wavestalk.org/general-discussion/waves-faq
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: bitsharesbrazil on June 23, 2016, 08:59:16 pm
lets waint n see if they can delivered somenthing better than bitshares n ripple...... pretty hard tough....

Title: Re: Waves
Post by: chryspano on June 23, 2016, 11:06:22 pm
Do we know who are involved in waves? in what other projects have they worked? or is this another "anonymus" developers "project"? Scam demand is really high lately...
I'm really curious...
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Tuck Fheman on June 24, 2016, 03:09:36 am
Do we know who are involved in waves? in what other projects have they worked? or is this another "anonymus" developers "project"? Scam demand is really high lately...
I'm really curious...

Scroll down to 'Meet our Team'. jl777 from NXT was involved as a consultant originally I believe. I'm not sure of his current involvement, if any.
https://wavesplatform.com/

Sasha and Vitalik (not involved) ...
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13245259_10153380439606184_2041157335693683052_n.jpg?oh=1096b98b8a2d5b9f1bd1e26a7ab9cd77&oe=580D629A)
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: bitsharesbrazil on June 24, 2016, 03:54:08 am
after lisk, dao n waves all Ico hype has gone......will be hard to make any serious launch in the near future even if legit
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 24, 2016, 08:48:06 am
after lisk, dao n waves all Ico hype has gone......will be hard to make any serious launch in the near future even if legit

I think more projects should take the same approach we took with Peerplays.... it keeps things more accountable I think... but I guess it will remain to be seen if that works out well in the end when we do our 3rd round later this year.
Title: Re: Waves
Post by: Ander on June 25, 2016, 01:18:31 am
Waves is below ICO because it isnt on polo yet I think.  Bittrex doesnt have much liquidity to absorb the people panic dumping.