Just curious what the community thinks about the current platform & ecosystem after BM's mumble.....
We are on our own from now on.
There is not going to be a share drop.
The biggest benefit to this is that bitshares is no longer the guinea pig for cnx.
What I find absolutely hilarious is how earlier this year Dan said his new year's resolution was to become a "better leader for bitshares"... Quits 4 months later.
He didn't quit. He was fired by those voting against development workers.
There is not going to be a share drop.
The biggest benefit to this is that bitshares is no longer the guinea pig for cnx.
What I find absolutely hilarious is how earlier this year Dan said his new year's resolution was to become a "better leader for bitshares"... Quits 4 months later.
He didn't quit. He was fired by those voting against development workers.
He didn't quit. He was fired by those voting against development workers.
I don't want to have divided loyalties... I cannot serve two masters.
Well at least he's not focusing on bootstrapping a competing USD through the VOTE DAC :)
Well at least he's not focusing on bootstrapping a competing USD through the VOTE DAC :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adamkalebernest/e2e-verifiable-blockchain-voting-software-follow-m?ref=nav_search
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
Might that be mistaken for neglect and abandoning, where there are not also clear statements of confidence and encouragement, put alongside each instance of change.
Mumbling is all very well but I'd rather BitShares get into the habit of stating things clearly.. it's hard in passing by the forum, as most BitShares interests will be, to make sense of this latest twist.
BitShares is in the hands of mere mortal entrepreneurs like you and me now.
And we are exactly what it needs at this point in time.
BitShares is not a piece of software, it is an ecosystem.
BitShares is in the hands of mere mortal entrepreneurs like you and me now.
And we are exactly what it needs at this point in time.
if you mean ME and YOU ... I am not excited :-X
(http://www.zo.utexas.edu/faculty/sjasper/images/plant_succession.jpg)
For me the biggest disappointment of the BitShares platform so far is the promised 2.0 feature of the bond market. Ive been wanting to loan out my BTS and get interest on it for ages. I expect that many others feel the same way, and that this feature will give a huge boost to the daily transaction count, because BTS bulls now have something to do whilst patiently hodling their shares.
Is there any ETA on this?
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
For me the biggest disappointment of the BitShares platform so far is the promised 2.0 feature of the bond market. Ive been wanting to loan out my BTS and get interest on it for ages. I expect that many others feel the same way, and that this feature will give a huge boost to the daily transaction count, because BTS bulls now have something to do whilst patiently hodling their shares.
Is there any ETA on this?
This and Margin trading...
Carbyne:
Scientists create 'holy grail' strongest material in the world that's tougher than.... Graphene
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/carbyne-scientists-create-holy-grail-strongest-material-world-thats-tougher-graphene-1554867?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=%2Frss%2Fyahoous%2Fnews
BitShares needs to stabilize and stop "innovating".+5%
Carbyne:
Scientists create 'holy grail' strongest material in the world that's tougher than.... Graphene
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/carbyne-scientists-create-holy-grail-strongest-material-world-thats-tougher-graphene-1554867?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=%2Frss%2Fyahoous%2Fnews
lol. amazing
There is not going to be a share drop.
The biggest benefit to this is that bitshares is no longer the guinea pig for cnx.
What I find absolutely hilarious is how earlier this year Dan said his new year's resolution was to become a "better leader for bitshares"... Quits 4 months later.
There is not going to be a share drop.
The biggest benefit to this is that bitshares is no longer the guinea pig for cnx.
What I find absolutely hilarious is how earlier this year Dan said his new year's resolution was to become a "better leader for bitshares"... Quits 4 months later.
The biggest benefit of this is for people to recognize the reality and be less serious about people's random commitment without a legal contract . Of course , same goes to every new ICO project out there .
People shouldn't even take the sharedrop theory seriously in the first place........What , just because a guy said so , then he will give you 10% of everything he built in the future ? Just because this guy sounded serious ?
You people sure do love to FUD. There's nothing new here, so please stop making such a big deal out of it..
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You people sure do love to FUD. There's nothing new here, so please stop making such a big deal out of it..
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no, but is the same like BTS 1.0 and he worked behind the scenes on BTS 2.0
- this community did a merger to keep him and we lost in this process a DNS blockchain, Follow my Vote blockchain and we deluted BTS
- in BTS 2.0 we got stripped of the sharedrop and now
"i am moving on, because i am funding the development from private funds since...."
the "secret source" is now going into something new, and this community left behind. Really funny!
and i don't like to blame the "chinese community for not supporting workers" for it.
The sharedrop thing was never given any sort of chance. Mining gives away far more than 10%. 10% for a premade dedicated community to support your product isn't that bad of a deal. If someone gives you 10% then it either will be in the code or it won't.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
if they're afraid of selling pressure they can vest the sharedrop for even years
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
1 worker left, all the supporters moving and saving their investment out of Bitshares. I think we should probably thank BM again, that now
the none deliution fraction is by far the biggest one.
if i wouldn't have a large stack of my investment in Bitshares i would just buy popcorn and watch this tragedy.
Actually , I'm expecting to watch the tragedy of STEEM .
Actually , I'm expecting to watch the tragedy of STEEM .
In any case you will see tragedy, or for STEEM holders or for STEEM haters. :)
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
Agreed, I think Bitshares still has a lot of valuable members and talented coders: Bitshares Munich, Bunkerchain Labs, bitcash, transwiser.com, etc.
I think its time for the community to step up and make this project truly great!
I got Team Argentina together and we are working towards building our own smartcoin.. we will provide liquidity and promote it trough our Bitcoin Embassy in Buenos Aires, we will also provide a 1-1 conversion and talk about bitshares at our meetups.This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
Agreed, I think Bitshares still has a lot of valuable members and talented coders: Bitshares Munich, Bunkerchain Labs, bitcash, transwiser.com, etc.
I think its time for the community to step up and make this project truly great!
Great! So what are you planning?
So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
+5% +5% Thanks Ken... For what it is worth, I'm very happy with the past and the present. These are startups, so I keep learning to enjoy the ride..
I recognize that blockchains like BitShares are the right thing to do so I continue to upgrade my personal finances to use this new technology and invest in new businesses that show they can be sustained long term. There is very little I can do to gage adoption or even to put a financial price tag on this. Isn't user adoption something like cash, will you ever have enough? If one can have passion and do well user adoption is free... The incentive is more excitement in the way of future opportunity.
These are real business and we have an awesome exchange on BitShares. It is fast, high-volume, secure, decentralized and efficient. I hear of very clever workarounds to the speed issues in blockchains and, although I would implement them if I were in their shoes (to keep things going), I would always know very well that as a developer they are cracks in a foundation. One little hack in the core can take down a platform in unforeseen ways. DL understand this well so this gives me confidence in his work. I know this part of the platform should not change frequently and does not require his constant attention. The less frequent the better. This is great news for us, we have property now that will keep giving us value at little or no cost at all. This is why we put forth all the time and effort up front to create things that will last. You don't want to change them latter. Also, for this reason it is completely normal to move to other modules, projects, chains, etc... None of this raises a red flag for me. Software is complex, you need to move to another area so you have freedom and can't break any code. Fighting this is like fighting the rip currents, the key is to go with the flow and gently move in the direction you need to go...
This is what I was after, I wanted to see this become a reality. The market experiments are a lot of fun to use and watch, these are important tools for very serious investors. This is exactly what we need, if we are going to be home for major investors and even the average person's retirement portfolio. This is a huge step up for the average joe. Also, for this to be viable we needed web and mobile clients. We pulled it off. The major pieces are here... Best of all the community owns it in full so this sets the stage for a honest future where it is greed and monopoly resistant.
This is another asset for the BitShares exchange. Keep them coming ;)...
For me the biggest disappointment of the BitShares platform so far is the promised 2.0 feature of the bond market. Ive been wanting to loan out my BTS and get interest on it for ages. I expect that many others feel the same way, and that this feature will give a huge boost to the daily transaction count, because BTS bulls now have something to do whilst patiently hodling their shares.
Is there any ETA on this?
This and Margin trading...
Those features are still possible, if that's what the shareholders vote for.
Just going to +5% this to be sure everyone sees it ;)This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
Agree, maybe it is a good thing that we will have a more stable ecosystem for the next months now. We at BitShares Munich are continuing our efforts and are heavily focusing on POS software (Odoo, Standalone) and started raising funds for our mobile payment app ECHO. The response from the market and investors is very good so far.
I am sad that BM shifted his focus and will work on STEEM now, but somehow it is like a Satoshi Nakamoto moment for BitShares. Now it is up to us to develop this awesome platform and make it great.
You can start helping us already: Leave a comment here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22218.0.html
We want to update the BitShares.org main site. Thank you for your help!
scarcity of fiat ramps is the major one. Let people who get their wages in fiat to deposit/withdraw easily, and your volumes will go to the moon.
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
I kind of half listened to the mumble and I didn't hear anything about this. Anyone know what Stan's alluding to here?
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
I kind of half listened to the mumble and I didn't hear anything about this. Anyone know what Stan's alluding to here?
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
I kind of half listened to the mumble and I didn't hear anything about this. Anyone know what Stan's alluding to here?
i think BM mentioned lessions learnt for BTS 3.0 but didn't said something that this is in the pipline, because you know, lack of funds, mean no development on the blockchain, only on the frontend.
This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!
Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.
+5% +5% Thanks Ken... For what it is worth, I'm very happy with the past and the present. These are startups, so I keep learning to enjoy the ride..
I recognize that blockchains like BitShares are the right thing to do so I continue to upgrade my personal finances to use this new technology and invest in new businesses that show they can be sustained long term. There is very little I can do to gage adoption or even to put a financial price tag on this. Isn't user adoption something like cash, will you ever have enough? If one can have passion and do well user adoption is free... The incentive is more excitement in the way of future opportunity.
These are real business and we have an awesome exchange on BitShares. It is fast, high-volume, secure, decentralized and efficient. I hear of very clever workarounds to the speed issues in blockchains and, although I would implement them if I were in their shoes (to keep things going), I would always know very well that as a developer they are cracks in a foundation. One little hack in the core can take down a platform in unforeseen ways. DL understand this well so this gives me confidence in his work. I know this part of the platform should not change frequently and does not require his constant attention. The less frequent the better. This is great news for us, we have property now that will keep giving us value at little or no cost at all. This is why we put forth all the time and effort up front to create things that will last. You don't want to change them latter. Also, for this reason it is completely normal to move to other modules, projects, chains, etc... None of this raises a red flag for me. Software is complex, you need to move to another area so you have freedom and can't break any code. Fighting this is like fighting the rip currents, the key is to go with the flow and gently move in the direction you need to go...
This is what I was after, I wanted to see this become a reality. The market experiments are a lot of fun to use and watch, these are important tools for very serious investors. This is exactly what we need, if we are going to be home for major investors and even the average person's retirement portfolio. This is a huge step up for the average joe. Also, for this to be viable we needed web and mobile clients. We pulled it off. The major pieces are here... Best of all the community owns it in full so this sets the stage for a honest future where it is greed and monopoly resistant.
This is another asset for the BitShares exchange. Keep them coming ;)...
For me the biggest disappointment of the BitShares platform so far is the promised 2.0 feature of the bond market. Ive been wanting to loan out my BTS and get interest on it for ages. I expect that many others feel the same way, and that this feature will give a huge boost to the daily transaction count, because BTS bulls now have something to do whilst patiently hodling their shares.
Is there any ETA on this?
This and Margin trading...
Those features are still possible, if that's what the shareholders vote for.
"Still" possible? So its a decreasing possibility, as in probably not going to happen? You havent given us a bond market proposal to vote for, nor said how much cash it will require. Where do I vote for it?
The result is that as part of the merger many people (including the large Dev fund) are taking a long-term vested interest in things.
Do you really want Toast, Adam, and I to have instant access to a large percentage of all new funds or do you want us vesting with a long time horizon?
The Dex is just too hard to use. ...
There has never even been a proposal to reject or accept from cnx. I bet bts would even vote in a mas style program if a proposal was ever made.
With the lessons we've learned from Steem, we have the ability to create, let's call it Bitshares 3.0, if you will. Bitshares 3.0 would be different from the current iteration of bitshares in the following ways:
- it would not charge any transaction fees.
- it would have multiple assets like Steem backed dollars but paid to different .... gold, silver, euros, so on and so forth.
- it would create those assets only to pay people who do work.
In the work that the blockchain would pay for, would be:
- liquidity
- witnesses
So, with liquidity and witnesses paid for in these assets, and the blockchain then turn around and backing them, you would have an exchange with no fees, pegged assets where you could trade gold, silver, so on. I would then share drop such a chain on Bitshares with an allocation that is sufficient to cover the cost of development.
This was a very exciting interview!
I've never done mining before. I think I could cobble together a GPU miner but it sounds like I could do CPU mining as well.
Could someone explain (like I'm 5) what steps I need to mine steem? Or point me in the right direction anyway.... :)
This was a very exciting interview!
I've never done mining before. I think I could cobble together a GPU miner but it sounds like I could do CPU mining as well.
Could someone explain (like I'm 5) what steps I need to mine steem? Or point me in the right direction anyway.... :)
it's a good start...
http://steemit.com/steemhelp/@pharesim/ubuntu-14-04-miner-setup
#!/bin/bash
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade -y
apt-get install -y git build-essential cmake libssl-dev autoconf autotools-dev doxygen libncurses5-dev libreadline-dev libtool screen libicu-dev libbz2-dev graphviz
cd /home/ubuntu
wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/boost/boost/1.57.0/boost_1_57_0.tar.bz2
tar xjf ./boost_1_57_0.tar.bz2
cd boost_1_57_0
./bootstrap.sh --prefix=/opt/boost_1_57_0
./b2 -j36 > /dev/null
./b2 install > /dev/null
export BOOST_ROOT=/opt/boost_1_57_0
cd ..
git clone https://github.com/steemit/steem.git
cd steem
git submodule update --init --recursive
cmake .
make -j36
cd programs/steemd/
screen -S steem -dm ./steemd --mining-threads=36 --seed-node='52.38.66.234:2001' --seed-node='52.37.169.52:2001' --seed-node='52.26.78.244:2001' --rpc-endpoint \
--miner='["account1","5WIF1"]' --witness='"account1"' \
--miner='["account2","5WIF2"]' --witness='"account2"' \
--miner='["account3","5WIF3"]' --witness='"account3"' \
I presume these values need to be replaced with something else, is that right?
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--miner='["account1","5WIF1"]' --witness='"account1"' \
--miner='["account2","5WIF2"]' --witness='"account2"' \
--miner='["account3","5WIF3"]' --witness='"account3"' \
How do you create the accounts? I assume the 5WIFn are the private keys for those accounts, correct?
Here is a good question someone just PM'd me.... could someone answer it cause I don't know (remember, I'm 5)....QuoteI presume these values need to be replaced with something else, is that right?
Code: [Select]
--miner='["account1","5WIF1"]' --witness='"account1"' \
--miner='["account2","5WIF2"]' --witness='"account2"' \
--miner='["account3","5WIF3"]' --witness='"account3"' \
How do you create the accounts? I assume the 5WIFn are the private keys for those accounts, correct?
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
I kind of half listened to the mumble and I didn't hear anything about this. Anyone know what Stan's alluding to here?
i think BM mentioned lessions learnt for BTS 3.0 but didn't said something that this is in the pipline, because you know, lack of funds, mean no development on the blockchain, only on the frontend.
bombshells just anger people more... at least historically. I am more trying to say there are many chains out their that compete against us and have centralized bodies paying their dev teams. Bitcoin and ETH both exemplify this. Yet people somehow think Dan and team are horrible when I assure you the eth core devs and btc core devs have been promised constant payment indefinitely until when? until they WIN in the market and probably beyond.
choose whatever account names you want without creating them...
create_account(string creator, string new_account_name, string json_meta, bool broadcast)
create_account_with_keys(string creator, string newname, string json_meta, public_key_type owner, public_key_type active, public_key_type posting, public_key_type memo, bool broadcast)less talk about what others did not do, and more about what could be done is what is needed now.
You've probably read it in this 245 replies long thread here ;p :less talk about what others did not do, and more about what could be done is what is needed now.
+5% +5% +5%
@everyone - i think i read somewhere that Yunbi (an exchange?) is voting against Workers and having their heavy buddies do the same. so, let's either A) disable Yunbi in the web wallet, and/or B) do the same thing with CCEDK/OL, Blocktrades and MetaExchange voting FOR the Workers. Fight fire with fire and we will never have to worry about a cheating exchange again. Light'em up!
less talk about what others did not do, and more about what could be done is what is needed now.
+5% +5% +5%
@everyone - i think i read somewhere that Yunbi (an exchange?) is voting against Workers and having their heavy buddies do the same. so, let's either A) disable Yunbi in the web wallet, and/or B) do the same thing with CCEDK/OL, Blocktrades and MetaExchange voting FOR the Workers. Fight fire with fire and we will never have to worry about a cheating exchange again. Light'em up!
You've probably read it in this 245 replies long thread here ;p :
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=22082.0
That's a real problem, BTS has been made to have funds available to grow. This one of the best thing we have, we should think how o best allocate these fund and not stop spend. Come on anti dilution community, don't you want to have your money x 100 in 3 years ?
Start a war with exchanges is very dangerous, if someone could persuade Poloniex and BTC38 to give their voting power to someone, it would be the end of BitShares democracy.
I have a suggestion. Someone with a confidence voice, speaking a good english make a quick video showing how to vote in the wallet. (That could be done in an hour). While showing how to vote, he explain why voting for a proxy like "xerox" who support workers is the best way of keeping BitShares in the path of success and grow the investment in BTS of everyone . These daily funds we have are there to develop BitShares. The sell pressure is caused mainly by the merger. Without workers, we will loose our competitive advantage in 6 months, bla bla bla
The "bla bla bla" should be all the good reasons we've seen in the 245 replies in the thread.
Once the video is done, every one here start sending transactions of 0.01 BTS with a quick message in the memo and the link to the video to the big and small whales who are not voting.
Here are a few one :
mcxcwbts 11,107,976
goldsix 6,050,401
ubris 6,000,000
miso69 4,833,076
lambda1 4,063,036
deepweb 2,974,341
jaehyuk 3,876,514
andrewmiao 3,786,080
tomliu 3,719,558
go-danny-go 3,533,157
mike-primorac 3,479,329
bts-ats8088 3,778,135
freggieleggie 1 3,401,362
brentallsop 3,247,576
zy360 2,891,468
bts-fruitsalad 2,804,446
operations.hyperetas 2,626,603
rand1 2,586,347
thread 2,553,716
hardfork 2 2,545,413
Which is 76,201,801 BTS not voting.
You can have fun and find more here and using CryptoFresh to check their voting :
http://richlist.btsgame.org/#/richlist/bts (http://richlist.btsgame.org/#/richlist/bts)
I'm sure if this video is well made and only 10 of us would send these transactions/reminder to vote, we could made a big difference ! Also we would have a weapon for these kind of situations. If you look for more ppl who don't vote, you'll find easily more than 76 million BTS. In about a couple of hours, I could find 100-150 millions.
I'm not able to do the video myself with my terrible Belgian accent and my poor english. Maybe it could be the association between a nice voice like fuzzy and a good script from one of our best mind in here.
We just need one or two volunteers to make this short video ( 1-2 min max ) and we can start as a community, to show how organised we can be and how we solve big problems with simple solutions.
@xeroc has brownies left for this purpose. If everybody agrees on a decent bounty, not symbolic but not overpaid, xeroc can aprove it.You've probably read it in this 245 replies long thread here ;p :
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=22082.0
That's a real problem, BTS has been made to have funds available to grow. This one of the best thing we have, we should think how o best allocate these fund and not stop spend. Come on anti dilution community, don't you want to have your money x 100 in 3 years ?
Start a war with exchanges is very dangerous, if someone could persuade Poloniex and BTC38 to give their voting power to someone, it would be the end of BitShares democracy.
I have a suggestion. Someone with a confidence voice, speaking a good english make a quick video showing how to vote in the wallet. (That could be done in an hour). While showing how to vote, he explain why voting for a proxy like "xerox" who support workers is the best way of keeping BitShares in the path of success and grow the investment in BTS of everyone . These daily funds we have are there to develop BitShares. The sell pressure is caused mainly by the merger. Without workers, we will loose our competitive advantage in 6 months, bla bla bla
The "bla bla bla" should be all the good reasons we've seen in the 245 replies in the thread.
Once the video is done, every one here start sending transactions of 0.01 BTS with a quick message in the memo and the link to the video to the big and small whales who are not voting.
Here are a few one :
mcxcwbts 11,107,976
goldsix 6,050,401
ubris 6,000,000
miso69 4,833,076
lambda1 4,063,036
deepweb 2,974,341
jaehyuk 3,876,514
andrewmiao 3,786,080
tomliu 3,719,558
go-danny-go 3,533,157
mike-primorac 3,479,329
bts-ats8088 3,778,135
freggieleggie 1 3,401,362
brentallsop 3,247,576
zy360 2,891,468
bts-fruitsalad 2,804,446
operations.hyperetas 2,626,603
rand1 2,586,347
thread 2,553,716
hardfork 2 2,545,413
Which is 76,201,801 BTS not voting.
You can have fun and find more here and using CryptoFresh to check their voting :
http://richlist.btsgame.org/#/richlist/bts (http://richlist.btsgame.org/#/richlist/bts)
I'm sure if this video is well made and only 10 of us would send these transactions/reminder to vote, we could made a big difference ! Also we would have a weapon for these kind of situations. If you look for more ppl who don't vote, you'll find easily more than 76 million BTS. In about a couple of hours, I could find 100-150 millions.
I'm not able to do the video myself with my terrible Belgian accent and my poor english. Maybe it could be the association between a nice voice like fuzzy and a good script from one of our best mind in here.
We just need one or two volunteers to make this short video ( 1-2 min max ) and we can start as a community, to show how organised we can be and how we solve big problems with simple solutions.
@emailtooaj - you are an amazing video maker with an AWESOME voice. maybe a bounty from us to create this quick video on voting?
Chris Coney @JonnyBitcoin does great explanatory videos as well.
So, let's try it. Which of you would like to do this for us and how much does the bounty for you need to be?
@EstefanTT has a brilliant idea here and I think we should give it a shot!
Bytemaster has been saying for months that:
BitShares needs to stabilize and stop "innovating".
Sidechains are the proper way to expand.
He will continue to innovate (it's what he does).
He will be there when BitShares needs him.
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
That's because he is the best choice for the first and the worst choice for the second.
We all benefit when BM makes babies because we find out about them first and we know their daddy well.
He will make us many babies if he is free to innovate.
What do you think his talent will be worth if chained to maintaining a stabilized BitShares?
BitShares is in the hands of mere mortal entrepreneurs like you and me now.
And we are exactly what it needs at this point in time.
:)
You've probably read it in this 245 replies long thread here ;p :
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=22082.0
That's a real problem, BTS has been made to have funds available to grow. This one of the best thing we have, we should think how o best allocate these fund and not stop spend. Come on anti dilution community, don't you want to have your money x 100 in 3 years ?
Start a war with exchanges is very dangerous, if someone could persuade Poloniex and BTC38 to give their voting power to someone, it would be the end of BitShares democracy.
I have a suggestion. Someone with a confidence voice, speaking a good english make a quick video showing how to vote in the wallet. (That could be done in an hour). While showing how to vote, he explain why voting for a proxy like "xerox" who support workers is the best way of keeping BitShares in the path of success and grow the investment in BTS of everyone . These daily funds we have are there to develop BitShares. The sell pressure is caused mainly by the merger. Without workers, we will loose our competitive advantage in 6 months, bla bla bla
The "bla bla bla" should be all the good reasons we've seen in the 245 replies in the thread.
Once the video is done, every one here start sending transactions of 0.01 BTS with a quick message in the memo and the link to the video to the big and small whales who are not voting.
Here are a few one :
mcxcwbts 11,107,976
goldsix 6,050,401
ubris 6,000,000
miso69 4,833,076
lambda1 4,063,036
deepweb 2,974,341
jaehyuk 3,876,514
andrewmiao 3,786,080
tomliu 3,719,558
go-danny-go 3,533,157
mike-primorac 3,479,329
bts-ats8088 3,778,135
freggieleggie 1 3,401,362
brentallsop 3,247,576
zy360 2,891,468
bts-fruitsalad 2,804,446
operations.hyperetas 2,626,603
rand1 2,586,347
thread 2,553,716
hardfork 2 2,545,413
Which is 76,201,801 BTS not voting.
You can have fun and find more here and using CryptoFresh to check their voting :
http://richlist.btsgame.org/#/richlist/bts (http://richlist.btsgame.org/#/richlist/bts)
I'm sure if this video is well made and only 10 of us would send these transactions/reminder to vote, we could made a big difference ! Also we would have a weapon for these kind of situations. If you look for more ppl who don't vote, you'll find easily more than 76 million BTS. In about a couple of hours, I could find 100-150 millions.
I'm not able to do the video myself with my terrible Belgian accent and my poor english. Maybe it could be the association between a nice voice like fuzzy and a good script from one of our best mind in here.
We just need one or two volunteers to make this short video ( 1-2 min max ) and we can start as a community, to show how organised we can be and how we solve big problems with simple solutions.
@emailtooaj - you are an amazing video maker with an AWESOME voice. maybe a bounty from us to create this quick video on voting?
Chris Coney @JonnyBitcoin does great explanatory videos as well.
So, let's try it. Which of you would like to do this for us and how much does the bounty for you need to be?
@EstefanTT has a brilliant idea here and I think we should give it a shot!
Bytemaster has been saying for months that:
BitShares needs to stabilize and stop "innovating".
Sidechains are the proper way to expand.
He will continue to innovate (it's what he does).
He will be there when BitShares needs him.
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
That's because he is the best choice for the first and the worst choice for the second.
We all benefit when BM makes babies because we find out about them first and we know their daddy well.
He will make us many babies if he is free to innovate.
What do you think his talent will be worth if chained to maintaining a stabilized BitShares?
BitShares is in the hands of mere mortal entrepreneurs like you and me now.
And we are exactly what it needs at this point in time.
:)
Exactly how many more people besides BM can take over development of major new features in a way consistent with the current codebase?
In other words, who else really groks the code?
Bytemaster has been saying for months that:
BitShares needs to stabilize and stop "innovating".
Sidechains are the proper way to expand.
He will continue to innovate (it's what he does).
He will be there when BitShares needs him.
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
That's because he is the best choice for the first and the worst choice for the second.
We all benefit when BM makes babies because we find out about them first and we know their daddy well.
He will make us many babies if he is free to innovate.
What do you think his talent will be worth if chained to maintaining a stabilized BitShares?
BitShares is in the hands of mere mortal entrepreneurs like you and me now.
And we are exactly what it needs at this point in time.
:)
Exactly how many more people besides BM can take over development of major new features in a way consistent with the current codebase?
In other words, who else really groks the code?
thereverseflash looks to be pretty effective
Perhaps we could have a bidding war to lure him over to Bitshares?
Bytemaster has been saying for months that:
BitShares needs to stabilize and stop "innovating".
Sidechains are the proper way to expand.
He will continue to innovate (it's what he does).
He will be there when BitShares needs him.
Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint: it ends in "3.0".
Bytemaster makes babies and leaves it to others to raise them.
That's because he is the best choice for the first and the worst choice for the second.
We all benefit when BM makes babies because we find out about them first and we know their daddy well.
He will make us many babies if he is free to innovate.
What do you think his talent will be worth if chained to maintaining a stabilized BitShares?
BitShares is in the hands of mere mortal entrepreneurs like you and me now.
And we are exactly what it needs at this point in time.
:)
Exactly how many more people besides BM can take over development of major new features in a way consistent with the current codebase?
In other words, who else really groks the code?
thereverseflash looks to be pretty effective
Perhaps we could have a bidding war to lure him over to Bitshares?
Since he's BM it would be hard I guess ;)
So someone correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but the main person with the vision, leadership and core expertise for this project just went away to work on a glorious new vision.. if I grokked it correctly, because he believes this new steamy thing has a better chance of materialising his visions.
Does that not a) leave this project without ideological leadership and b) discredit the project in favor of the new shiny one?
So someone correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but the main person with the vision, leadership and core expertise for this project just went away to work on a glorious new vision.. if I grokked it correctly, because he believes this new steamy thing has a better chance of materialising his visions.
Does that not a) leave this project without ideological leadership and b) discredit the project in favor of the new shiny one?
It's the reasoning for CNX leaving that is dumb... They say there is no money available for development because of the anit-dilution (chinese) crowd. Yet CNX hasn't even put forth a proposal for anything (MAS, Bonds, Rate Limited Transactions).
Mike Hearn killed the bitcoin too... right?
The point is, if people think that BM moving on will destroy bts, then it was already destroyed. The main point is for bts to decentralised and self governing. If one person or group leaving the project can destroyed it, it had already failed. BTS has the tools it needs to carry on. Being able to survive without its creator is the hallmark of any successful project or species.
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It's the reasoning for CNX leaving that is dumb... They say there is no money available for development because of the anit-dilution (chinese) crowd. Yet CNX hasn't even put forth a proposal for anything (MAS, Bonds, Rate Limited Transactions).
This is what I dislike as well.
It's the reasoning for CNX leaving that is dumb... They say there is no money available for development because of the anit-dilution (chinese) crowd. Yet CNX hasn't even put forth a proposal for anything (MAS, Bonds, Rate Limited Transactions).
This is what I dislike as well.
Isn't @abit working on Rate Limited Transactions? And if I remember correctly, @bytemaster did propose a bond market in some detail. But if you were paying attention, you would know the anti-dilutionists are not interested in funding new features. Given that, do you really think MAS would have a remote chance of getting funded?
I don't understand the people who keep saying bytemaster is "moving on". Fact is, he said he's not going anywhere. He still owns a large stake in BTS and will continue to support it, make sure it keeps running smoothly, be a resource for businesses building atop BTS, etc.
But beyond that, there's no way for him to do any meaningful development work on BTS at this time. The mandate at this point is for feature stability. So cut the crap, people. Especially you, @lil_jay890, you little nattering nabob of negativity. How depressing it must be to go through life being you.
To be clear, the Rate Limited Free Transaction feature has no relationship with Jakub. It's still possible to have that feature after the community taken over BitShares Github repository (or a fork or whatever the major exchanges and bridges would accept).
Also abit is no longer working on the transaction thing because Jakub disappeared and he has no access to the funds.
It's the reasoning for CNX leaving that is dumb... They say there is no money available for development because of the anit-dilution (chinese) crowd. Yet CNX hasn't even put forth a proposal for anything (MAS, Bonds, Rate Limited Transactions).
What is even dumber is how BM has basically screwed everyone who has ever followed his vision by making them jump from investment to investment. Buy PTS, Donate AGS, Buy BTSX, Buy BTS, Buy Brownies, Buy Steem. That's 6 different investments just to try to keep up with Dan's latest squeeze. Then you have Stan spouting off in the cryptofresh video about how people are going to wish they bought bts back when it was under a cent, all while preparing to fork bts and create steem with no bts sharedrop. BM is like one of those TV preachers that keep asking for more and more money while guaranteeing they will take you to the promise land if you give.
In all honesty though, BTS being out of CNX's control and focus is probably a good thing. After all the promises and announcements that did nothing to increase the market cap of BTS, having a new group of leaders might be what BTS needs.