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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: Zapply on April 19, 2016, 01:43:32 pm

Title: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: Zapply on April 19, 2016, 01:43:32 pm
1)The blockchain pay development and worker using bitasset bitusd

2) BTS temporarily close bitasset only left bitusd

3)Make a blockchain saving funding lock BTS, the BTS to help people to prevent forced settlement short bitusd
the saving funds can shared the blockchain trading fee

4)free transaction fee and bond market

Bitshares is done

Like BM say
Title: Re: reduce BTS inflation and funding for development
Post by: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.
Title: Re: reduce BTS inflation and funding for development
Post by: Musewhale on April 19, 2016, 02:19:52 pm
 +5% +5% +5%  good idea
Title: Re: reduce BTS inflation and funding for development
Post by: Stan on April 19, 2016, 05:26:54 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 06:00:29 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: lil_jay890 on April 19, 2016, 06:17:18 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: Stan on April 19, 2016, 07:00:00 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Proposals are based in part on what resources are available to work on them.
Resources are hired based on the availability of stable funding.
A constant battle over who controls the funding light switch means no one dares hire against any line item.
So the resources remain allocated elsewhere.

Voting is overrated.  I wouldn't want to ride on an aircraft controlled by voting passengers.
Give me a benevolent whale any day.

:)





Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: luckybit on April 19, 2016, 08:08:58 pm
A crypto monarchy?
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: lil_jay890 on April 19, 2016, 08:18:48 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Proposals are based in part on what resources are available to work on them.
Resources are hired based on the availability of stable funding.
A constant battle over who controls the funding light switch means no one dares hire against any line item.
So the resources remain allocated elsewhere.

Voting is overrated.  I wouldn't want to ride on an aircraft controlled by voting passengers.
Give me a benevolent whale any day.

:)

So you are only going to create a worker proposal if you are guaranteed to get funding... yet there is no way to guarantee funding.

Good job CNX... you designed a system that not even you guys can utilize.
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: Empirical1.2 on April 19, 2016, 10:49:03 pm
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Proposals are based in part on what resources are available to work on them.
Resources are hired based on the availability of stable funding.
A constant battle over who controls the funding light switch means no one dares hire against any line item.
So the resources remain allocated elsewhere.

Voting is overrated.  I wouldn't want to ride on an aircraft controlled by voting passengers.
Give me a benevolent whale any day.

:)

So you are only going to create a worker proposal if you are guaranteed to get funding... yet there is no way to guarantee funding.

Good job CNX... you designed a system that not even you guys can utilize.

I may be way off base here, but my current impression is that a lot of Stan's recent posts are thinly veiled pitches for Steem & should probably be relegated to the random discussion area.
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 19, 2016, 11:04:15 pm
oh stop being such a BENEVOLENT WHALE!






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Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: bitimaru on April 19, 2016, 11:26:15 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but some whales leaving ship just give more leadership to the remaining supporters. Right?
At that point, I think BM withdraw on a facebook/reddit (Please name me a reddit clone that doesnt feel like russian thundra right now) is all what was really needed for BTS to focus and move on with a more  'enlighten' alignement with workers/voters.

Leadership was lazy and now it's time for change. Statu quo sucks. Both for investment and development.
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: Zapply on April 20, 2016, 06:05:30 am
Bitshares blockchain can be one of the Whale Powered Assets

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22253.0.html
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: gamey on April 20, 2016, 08:27:48 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but some whales leaving ship just give more leadership to the remaining supporters. Right?
At that point, I think BM withdraw on a facebook/reddit (Please name me a reddit clone that doesnt feel like russian thundra right now) is all what was really needed for BTS to focus and move on with a more  'enlighten' alignement with workers/voters.

Leadership was lazy and now it's time for change. Statu quo sucks. Both for investment and development.

How are workers who write a signficant enhancement to the code ever going to be elected?   It is one thing for a single person.. but a whole team?  They're supposed to assume that yunbi never becomes popular etc ?  Chinese no-dilution movement has dug a nice hole.
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: Zapply on April 20, 2016, 11:30:21 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but some whales leaving ship just give more leadership to the remaining supporters. Right?
At that point, I think BM withdraw on a facebook/reddit (Please name me a reddit clone that doesnt feel like russian thundra right now) is all what was really needed for BTS to focus and move on with a more  'enlighten' alignement with workers/voters.

Leadership was lazy and now it's time for change. Statu quo sucks. Both for investment and development.

How are workers who write a signficant enhancement to the code ever going to be elected?   It is one thing for a single person.. but a whole team?  They're supposed to assume that yunbi never becomes popular etc ?  Chinese no-dilution movement has dug a nice hole.

now can start blaming each other or think of solution
Title: Re: dilution for BTS and funding for development
Post by: bench on October 02, 2019, 02:31:08 pm
4)free transaction fee and bond market
YES

Bond market:
BSIP70: Lending for Margin Trading (https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/170)
BSIP78: MLP (Market Liquidity Pool) (https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/182)
New BSIP: MPLP (Margin Position Liquidity Pool) (https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/213)

Free transfers:
New BSIP: Free TRANSFERs with coin-days (https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/212)