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Other => Graveyard => MemoryCoin => Topic started by: robonix on January 26, 2014, 03:28:10 pm

Title: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: robonix on January 26, 2014, 03:28:10 pm
I don't understand cryptsy's actions, why would they add a coin as lame as mooncoin but they still have not added MemoryCoin.

Also I notices that on December 28th this "big vern" dork goes as far as to say that MemoryCoin does not exist:

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As I said, we are not participating. We are NOT going through the process required to get the MemoryCoin and thus they do not exist

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We will not be participating in the PTS -> MemoryCoin conversion.  If that is something you want, then withdraw to your local wallet.

Hs sounds angry and it seems that cryptsy is not adding MemoryCoin out of spite, so I say we boycot cryptsy don't use them to trade any altcoin...
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: itsik78 on January 26, 2014, 03:40:40 pm
Hey Robonix,
I share your frustration about Cryptsy taking too long to add MemoryCoin.
But think of it from the business side. How do they make money? They get a trade fee.
So the more volume a coin has the more money they make.
Obviously they're adding the coins with more buzz around them and that's what we're trying to achieve - create more buzz around our coin to increase its volume.
To do that we must get more and more people to hold some MMCs if it's via Giveaways or simply by getting them to start mining on their computer with our super-wallet + create more unique feature around the coin and get as much media coverage as possible.

As for the PTS -> MMC conversion - it's a headache for them and I don't blame them for not participating in it.
We (PTS holders with PTS in Cryptsy on block 32000) shouldn't expect them to do this for us and we should have thought of that in time and withdraw to our local wallet (as suggested enuogh time prior to block 32000 by Freetrade on the PTS forum).
So I think the faster we kill the issue with the PTS conversion to MMC the better chances we'll have to be on Cryptsy sooner.


Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: stalemate on January 26, 2014, 08:00:19 pm
I don't understand cryptsy's actions, why would they add a coin as lame as mooncoin but they still have not added MemoryCoin.

Also I notices that on December 28th this "big vern" dork goes as far as to say that MemoryCoin does not exist:

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As I said, we are not participating. We are NOT going through the process required to get the MemoryCoin and thus they do not exist

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We will not be participating in the PTS -> MemoryCoin conversion.  If that is something you want, then withdraw to your local wallet.

Hs sounds angry and it seems that cryptsy is not adding MemoryCoin out of spite, so I say we boycot cryptsy don't use them to trade any altcoin...

MemoryCoin hasn't been added to Cryptsy cause I haven't reached them yet. Stay tuned! :)
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: bppsp1 on January 26, 2014, 08:29:50 pm
Well it can only go up from the current price, not much lower until it reaches 0 so time to make a move on.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: smokim11 on January 27, 2014, 05:38:48 am
I hope it never goes to cryptsy, its just going to be pumped and then dumped. Destroying the coin's value.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: Firefly on January 27, 2014, 10:37:33 am
Well, I don't understand why mmc.1gh.com has about 85% of all computing power of this coin.
What's about 51%-attack? It's not uprising Cryptsy doesn't deal with it.
And recall a scandal with premine.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: trankil on January 27, 2014, 01:24:51 pm
did you trye coinedup   site is slow but it work great and have many different coins !
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: bppsp1 on January 27, 2014, 03:14:00 pm
Ive contacted coinedup but no response yet.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: itsik78 on January 27, 2014, 03:19:11 pm
I've contacted all exchanges.
They are flooded with "add me" (or "add what I mined yesterday" :) ) requests.
They won't easily reply.
Seeing it from their POV, as I said, they want coins with big volumes so I'm trying to show them that there is a nice volume building up on Bter.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: bppsp1 on January 27, 2014, 03:33:03 pm
Ive opened discussion with coinedup admin/owner directly.

Posting add this or that coin in forums isn't personal enough and easily ignored.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: itsik78 on January 27, 2014, 03:39:37 pm
Ive opened discussion with coinedup admin/owner directly.

Posting add this or that coin in forums isn't personal enough and easily ignored.
I agree,
I meant emails and PMs, not forums
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: bppsp1 on January 27, 2014, 04:54:35 pm
Openex lists MMC/BTC also however that exchange have just about no volume.

Definitely need Coinedup/Cryptsy or both added urgently to get exposure.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: itsik78 on January 27, 2014, 04:58:34 pm
Openex lists MMC/BTC also however that exchange have just about no volume.

Definitely need Coinedup/Cryptsy or both added urgently to get exposure.
I agree. That's why I want it to be added to more exchanges, as it will increase the interest in the coin which will increase demand.

Also, Coinex.pw has become an excellent and very big exchange.

Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: MaxPWR on January 27, 2014, 04:58:46 pm
We've had increasing volume on bter, haven't we?

In the meantime, let's post any OTC trade offers here, and cryptsy can see for themselves how much we need another exchange.

I have MMC from DEO salary, some BTC, and physical silver / paypal USD (eww) for US customers.  Post-below with any OTC person-to-person trades.  Have to trust you, so Officers preferred, may ask for ID or other trust assurance. 

Should also be "pro-MMC" meaning - pricing also benefits me so you're "tipping" me for avoiding dumping salary on market.  I'd say a 0.2% fee like an exchange...but I'm a single person, and this is "manual" start-up, so maybe 5-10%.  I'm asking for community members to stand up for volunteer donations / etc to stay "in-network".

Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: stalemate on January 27, 2014, 05:08:04 pm
I just emailed CoinedUp for MemoryCoin to be listed on their exchange. Let's see the results.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: bppsp1 on January 27, 2014, 05:11:31 pm
I wish we had more pro-active traders on BTER, I am doing my thing constantly whenever possible adjusting my sell orders upwards when lower buy orders clear quickly.

Far too many people just list their MMC and leave it no matter what happens on the buy side, this is making it hard to have a upwards price movement on BTER.

Moral of the story, we need greedy traders like coinedup/cryptsy who actively trade and adjust orders based on demand.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: MaxPWR on January 27, 2014, 05:57:03 pm
Coin development has management aspects that are completely new to most people and hard to understand / separate the intricacies...it's almost like we've created a new profession.

For the most part, overall price doesn't affect merchants and traders too much - they base in fiat or other virtual currencies, so they can adjust sale / cost prices in MMC accordingly. 

Miners are more affected by overall price, because it is "new income" - zero cost basis to them.

The "bad MMC" merchant does pump-and-dump / loves trade volatility / large site sales to collect fees / etc.  The "bad MMC" miner just mines and sells regardless of price.

The "good MMC" merchant markets to MMC miners with their products and/or price discounts - they "sink up" some of the "bad miner" MMC with services before it hits the exchange.  The "good MMC" miners hold their MMC, hire developers with MMC, or promote MMC merchants within the MMC network instead of selling on exchange.

We need more people to come out as "good MMC" supporters and sponsor development of some sites / volunteer / etc.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: smokim11 on January 28, 2014, 08:18:22 am
It would be nice to see MMC on coined up, if its on cryptsy it will drop to a few cents if not less.

Sorry but there are some idiot miners that dump thousands as they mine bringing down the price.

Coined up has less pumps and dumps, downside that the site loads slow but there's never problems with depositing/withdrawing  which the most important thing.
Title: Re: I don't understand cryptsy's actions
Post by: bppsp1 on January 28, 2014, 08:53:01 am
It would be nice to see MMC on coined up, if its on cryptsy it will drop to a few cents if not less.

Sorry but there are some idiot miners that dump thousands as they mine bringing down the price.

Coined up has less pumps and dumps, downside that the site loads slow but there's never problems with depositing/withdrawing  which the most important thing.

Thats one of the nice things about MMC, idiot miners wont jump on and mine it considering the scrypt altcoins is more profitable to mine with gpu's thus meaning if its trading on cryptsy most people would be buying/sell coins on the market rather than mining and dumping since that is simply not profitable right now with MMC and gpu mining.