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Title: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on January 23, 2019, 03:03:30 pm
The Norns are a set of three Algorithm Based Assets issued on the Bitshares platform. They use Bitshares as collateral, reference an oscillating quantity of Bitshares, are 120 degrees offset from one another and have an approximate amplitude of 5.303% over a 28 day period.

More in depth article: https://github.com/BTS-CM/Norns/blob/master/about.md

Price feed scripts:

https://github.com/BTS-CM/Norns/blob/master/parallel_feed.py
https://github.com/Zapata/bitshares-pricefeed/blob/develop/bitshares_pricefeed/sources/norm.py

Explorer links:
https://cryptofresh.com/a/SKULD
https://cryptofresh.com/a/URTHR
https://cryptofresh.com/a/VERTHANDI

NOTE: Visiting the asset page directly within the Bitshares wallet results in a white screen, don't worry though its being worked on: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/2403

I've pre-configured the following individuals as authorized price feed publishers:
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#1   fox   
#2   xeldal   
#3   delegate.ihashfury   
#4   bhuz   
#5   delegate-1.lafona   
#6   in.abit   
#7   verbaltech2   
#8   witness.yao   
#9   roelandp   
#10   taconator-witness   
#11   blckchnd   
#12   sahkan-bitshares   
#13   sc-ol   
#14   delegate-zhaomu   
#15   hertz-feed   
#16   witness.hiblockchain   
#17   clockwork   
#18   magicwallet.witness   
#19   bangzi   
#20   gdex-witness   
#21   zapata42-witness   
#22   btspp-witness   
#23   oxarbitrage-feeder

If anyone else is interested in publishing price feeds for these 3 new Algorithm Based Assets, please reply below and I'll update the settings to allow this.

Cheers
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on January 28, 2019, 07:19:41 pm
Update: Sorry for the inconvenience caused to price feed producers, but I've reduced the amplitude due to a previous miscalculation. It's now configured with an amplitude of 5.303030303.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on January 29, 2019, 10:48:24 pm
Cryptick wrote an interesting article on the Norns on Whaleshares: https://whaleshares.io/bitshares/@cryptick1/trustless-peer-to-peer-loan-sharks-on-bitshares
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: George_Bitspark on February 04, 2019, 05:27:05 am
Excellent article and wow this is a really good usage of Bitshares smartcoins!
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on February 05, 2019, 05:56:13 pm
https://t.me/The_Norns
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on February 08, 2019, 04:03:32 pm
Reference price feed script has been updated with additional full node urls, the price feed script was getting stuck on a server's 503 error prompt. I've also added some debugging info to the readme. The private price feed publisher list has been updated to include several more Bitshares witnesses, participation would be massively appreciated.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on February 20, 2019, 09:30:30 pm
Some recent updates to the price feeds and documentation:
https://whaleshares.io/@customminer/norns-updates-improved-price-feed-scripts-and-documentation-changes
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on February 28, 2019, 01:42:34 am
(https://i.imgur.com/dJJ9eT9.png)

There's currently 6 active price feed publishers, looking for more interested price feed publishers to begin publishing.
Title: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns Urthr Verthandi Skuld
Post by: Frankamary on April 07, 2019, 12:59:31 am
what difference it would do to have such a script and have this in ptokax, except the the time involved to change?
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns Urthr Verthandi Skuld
Post by: R on April 14, 2019, 11:39:32 am
what difference it would do to have such a script and have this in ptokax, except the the time involved to change?
I don't know what ptokax is, can you elaborate?

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On another note - to any active/standby witnesses I'm still seeking additional price feed publishers for the Norns. We've been stuck at 6 for over the last month unfortunately, only 1 more to activate.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on April 23, 2019, 10:08:14 am
Bump - seeking price feed publishers!
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on April 25, 2019, 06:14:55 pm
The Norns have activated!

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@cm-steem/the-norns-have-activated-on-the-bitshares-platform
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: matle85 on April 25, 2019, 07:21:19 pm
Great job!
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on April 26, 2019, 02:33:56 pm
Great job!
Thanks, I'm interested in seeing these pick up steam on the DEX & for more price feed publishers to join in.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on May 21, 2019, 09:36:53 pm
Bump! Still seeking active price feed publishers for the Norns
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on June 08, 2019, 12:20:21 pm
The quantity of Norn price feed publishers is dropping, I'd greatly appreciate price feed participation. There's peak value buy orders in to the tune of ~1M BTS at the moment, that would result in 2M BTS being locked up as collateral at reduced GS risk. Hoping other active witnesses take an interest soon 👍
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on July 17, 2019, 02:41:39 pm
Bump! Looking for active price feed publishers & hope that traders will decide to start shorting/trading the norns in the future 👍
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on July 22, 2019, 05:44:22 pm
New site for previewing the surrounding 28 days worth of norn values: https://norns.hertz.network/
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on August 19, 2019, 07:15:27 pm
Looking for further price feed publishers for the norns. Perhaps a BSIP would be the best way to get witness feed attention? 😂
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on August 28, 2019, 06:36:04 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: bench on August 29, 2019, 06:10:48 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
You should set up a market fee and share it to price feed publisher!
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on August 29, 2019, 09:29:33 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
You should set up a market fee and share it to price feed publisher!
Market fee permission is permanently disabled.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: bench on August 30, 2019, 12:19:55 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
You should set up a market fee and share it to price feed publisher!
Market fee permission is permanently disabled.
Why ?
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: binggo on August 30, 2019, 12:26:20 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
You should set up a market fee and share it to price feed publisher!
Market fee permission is permanently disabled.
why?
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: clockwork on August 30, 2019, 12:33:29 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
You should set up a market fee and share it to price feed publisher!
Market fee permission is permanently disabled.
why?

I believe they were created prior to market fee sharing and there is no way to reenable those flags
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: bench on August 31, 2019, 10:51:15 am
I believe they were created prior to market fee sharing and there is no way to reenable those flags
There should be an option to allow the changes of market fees. -> hardfork
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: pc on August 31, 2019, 01:56:32 pm
I believe they were created prior to market fee sharing and there is no way to reenable those flags
There should be an option to allow the changes of market fees. -> hardfork

The "permissions" of an asset define the rules for both issuer and holders. By unsetting a permission the issuer *guaranteees* the he will never enable the corresponding flag. Re-enabling the permission would break that guarantee, and would be against the interests of the holders. Therefore it is not possible to re-enable asset permissions as long as the supply is greater than 0.

This is deliberately so and is unlikely to be changed in a hardfork.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: sschiessl on August 31, 2019, 07:35:02 pm
I believe they were created prior to market fee sharing and there is no way to reenable those flags
There should be an option to allow the changes of market fees. -> hardfork

The "permissions" of an asset define the rules for both issuer and holders. By unsetting a permission the issuer *guaranteees* the he will never enable the corresponding flag. Re-enabling the permission would break that guarantee, and would be against the interests of the holders. Therefore it is not possible to re-enable asset permissions as long as the supply is greater than 0.

This is deliberately so and is unlikely to be changed in a hardfork.

Aha! With supply zero I can re enable permissions?
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on August 31, 2019, 10:32:11 pm
Bump. Still looking for further price feed publishers & market participants 👍
You should set up a market fee and share it to price feed publisher!
Market fee permission is permanently disabled.
Why ?

The market fee permission was disabled for the Norns to reduce potential regulatory hurdles/issues.

Other users on the Bitshares platform are welcome to create their own alternative algorithm based assets with market fees enabled, using the existing Norn price feed scripts (MIT licensed).

The network will still earn fees from any Norn related operations on the bitshares platform.

I've not had any direct feedback from potential price feed publishers regarding fees prohibiting their price feed publishing participation, they're one of the cheapest operations on the network. I've created 6M+ price feed operations on the bitshares network so far for hertz & the norns.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on September 09, 2019, 10:57:58 pm
Seeking further price feed publishers & market participants 👍

Put in a request to translate both the Hertz & the Norns whitepapers from English to Chinese: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29573.msg335258#msg335258
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on September 12, 2019, 03:29:22 pm
Attention price feed publishers: Since the recent Bitshares blockchain halt, multiple price feed sources for the norns ceased publishing feeds due to getting stuck on a 503 error. Please reset your price feed scripts to begin feeding the Norns once again, thanks.
Title: Re: Seeking price feed publishers for the Norns (Urthr, Verthandi & Skuld)
Post by: R on September 16, 2019, 05:09:52 pm
Norn price feed publishers have reactivated their feeds, you can borrow/settle norns as usual now.

Tomorrow: Peak Urthr, intersection of depreciating Skuld & appreciating Verthandi!

https://norns.hertz.network/