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Title: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: angrywinds on May 15, 2014, 05:57:28 am
我也算抱怨或黑的多了,最近都懒得来论坛吐槽了,大家也渐渐从失去耐心的愤怒变得麻木了。
Dpos真心感觉有点焦头烂额了,最根本的出发点还是还是解决bts-x的出块效率问题,而现在各个dac据我目测出来的最大障碍也在dpos,而且dpos好像还有大坑,这么高的出块速度,块链膨胀问题马上就会面临,很难想象一觉醒来就要下几十分钟的块会不会惹怒用户,有人随随便便能说出XX解决方案,没经过实践的方案还是先洗洗睡吧,甚至有人说定期快照抛弃之前的块,这到时必然引出比dpos更坑的快照弃块制度,很有可能陷入补丁上打补丁的恶性循环,越复杂的系统出现漏洞机会越多,对于交易所来说,很可能会突然死亡。
很明显即便现在做过一些测试,bts-x前景仍然不怎么光明,甚至可以说风险相当大,我希望3i是不是可以考虑下目前的开发策略。
lotto,dns,me这些dac我个人觉得对出块速度并没有非常高的要求,是不是可以考虑先采用纯pos呢?如果dpos以后真的成功了,可以再考虑切换到dpos,或者干脆出个升级版。别搞的现在一大堆dac眼巴巴等着不知道未来的dpos,一根筋啊。
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: PTS中国 on May 15, 2014, 06:08:11 am
只能说再多一点耐心吧,DPOS是个彻底的创新,前无古人,难度系数大是事实,至少原理上没有问题,值得等等看
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: Musewhale on May 15, 2014, 10:02:07 am
赚走我应拿的一分  :P
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: logxing on May 15, 2014, 10:18:01 am
有一定的道理,若是集中精力做业务逻辑,很多dac早就出了,虽然dpos目标很伟大,但为此而牺牲的时间,公众信心的流失,究竟值得与否值得思考。如果目前现状是开发者理智的,战略必要的选择,我也会无条件支持。

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Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: zhao150 on May 15, 2014, 10:35:19 am
logxing你个死忠,以前比版主还凶,谁说3i不利的话,你就反驳。
你这个大户 有多少个pts?多少个ags?
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: PTS中国 on May 16, 2014, 12:56:41 am
DPOS完全有必要,缺了DPOS,单单TAPOS是不足以搞定区块链的确认时间,这点POW也如此;有了30S的确认时间,想想看,应用价值该有多大!
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: cranecpa on May 16, 2014, 01:41:46 am
好现像啊,连logxing这般大神都开始动摇了,说明大家的忍耐度快到极限了
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: Stan on May 16, 2014, 02:32:38 am
We appreciate everyone's endurance.  Now imagine how it is for the team doing the work for two shifts every day!  Are we not just as eager to cross the finish line?

Nothing stands in our way except the proverbial Last Software Bug.  Far more problems lie vanquished behind us than dare to stand before us.  Like any good Marathon runner, we must endure the pain of that last mile.  The pain of those that watch the race cannot compare.

We have no doubts.  We have the resources and the skills to achieve everything that we have set out to do.  Only those who do not know us have doubts.  But you should know us, because everything has been done in the bright light of day where all can plainly see.

Those who have done their homework have confidence and sleep well with their knowledge of what shall surely be.  Those who have not worked to gain that confidence, sadly, must die a thousand deaths.

 :)



Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: adistman on May 16, 2014, 02:54:49 am
We appreciate everyone's endurance.  Now imagine how it is for the team doing the work for two shifts every day!  Are we not just as eager to cross the finish line?

Nothing stands in our way except the proverbial Last Software Bug.  Far more problems lie vanquished behind us than dare to stand before us.  Like any good Marathon runner, we must endure the pain of that last mile.  The pain of those that watch the race cannot compare.

We have no doubts.  We have the resources and the skills to achieve everything that we have set out to do.  Only those who do not know us have doubts.  But you should know us, because everything has been done in the bright light of day where all can plainly see.

Those who have done their homework have confidence and sleep well with their knowledge of what shall surely be.  Those who have not worked to gain that confidence, sadly, must die a thousand deaths.

 :)
+5% +5% +5%
the confidence and belief comes from the excellent product. Stan, you guys just forget the complains and make progress everyday that we could 
see and use. You know that the competition is so high, you should accelerate your speed in this program.
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: networker on May 16, 2014, 11:35:09 am
We appreciate everyone's endurance.  Now imagine how it is for the team doing the work for two shifts every day!  Are we not just as eager to cross the finish line?

Nothing stands in our way except the proverbial Last Software Bug.  Far more problems lie vanquished behind us than dare to stand before us.  Like any good Marathon runner, we must endure the pain of that last mile.  The pain of those that watch the race cannot compare.

We have no doubts.  We have the resources and the skills to achieve everything that we have set out to do.  Only those who do not know us have doubts.  But you should know us, because everything has been done in the bright light of day where all can plainly see.

   stan的口才真不是盖的,很多年后,也许我们会忘记PTS和BTS,但是一定记得stan的舌吐莲花 :0)

Those who have done their homework have confidence and sleep well with their knowledge of what shall surely be.  Those who have not worked to gain that confidence, sadly, must die a thousand deaths.

 :)
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: bulabu on May 16, 2014, 11:44:08 am
We appreciate everyone's endurance.  Now imagine how it is for the team doing the work for two shifts every day!  Are we not just as eager to cross the finish line?

Nothing stands in our way except the proverbial Last Software Bug.  Far more problems lie vanquished behind us than dare to stand before us.  Like any good Marathon runner, we must endure the pain of that last mile.  The pain of those that watch the race cannot compare.

We have no doubts.  We have the resources and the skills to achieve everything that we have set out to do.  Only those who do not know us have doubts.  But you should know us, because everything has been done in the bright light of day where all can plainly see.

   stan的口才真不是盖的,很多年后,也许我们会忘记PTS和BTS,但是一定记得stan的舌吐莲花 :0)

Those who have done their homework have confidence and sleep well with their knowledge of what shall surely be.  Those who have not worked to gain that confidence, sadly, must die a thousand deaths.

 :)
油田、冰山,马拉松的最后一公里。。。
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: Anytime on May 16, 2014, 02:50:01 pm
stan的口才牛叉


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Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: Overthetop on May 16, 2014, 03:59:50 pm
有了stan,我们再也不用担心BTS的营销... :D :D :D
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on May 16, 2014, 04:58:32 pm
马拉松的最后一公里,希望如此!
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: mtang on May 17, 2014, 12:43:58 am
来膜拜stan大神单人脱口秀,希望他儿子不负他天天像耶稣一样各处传道解惑 :)
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: bulabu on May 17, 2014, 01:00:08 am
bm=比尔盖茨,stan=鲍尔默?
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: suwoder on May 17, 2014, 01:01:10 am
口才好,在我们面前吹有什么用,有本事去BITCOIN大本营TALK吹去啊,ALTCOIN估计半年都没见过你们的贴子或相关话题了,

老是关起门来意淫有什么劲,刚开始出来那会儿BTX和万事达作为二代币的明星代表多少人在谈论啊,

现在呢,所谓天才般创新搞出来的DPOS,我怎么没见人说起过啊(除了这里),STAN口才这么好,倒是很少见他去bitcointalk论坛宣传宣伟3I啊

你连比特币的粉丝都搞不定的话,BTX出来又怎么样,玩比特币的都不待见你,你指望整天说你们是传销组织的平民接受?
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: lzr1900 on May 17, 2014, 01:11:29 am
口才好,在我们面前吹有什么用,有本事去BITCOIN大本营TALK吹去啊,ALTCOIN估计半年都没见过你们的贴子或相关话题了,

老是关起门来意淫有什么劲,刚开始出来那会儿BTX和万事达作为二代币的明星代表多少人在谈论啊,

现在呢,所谓天才般创新搞出来的DPOS,我怎么没见人说起过啊(除了这里),STAN口才这么好,倒是很少见他去bitcointalk论坛宣传宣伟3I啊

你连比特币的粉丝都搞不定的话,BTX出来又怎么样,玩比特币的都不待见你,你指望整天说你们是传销组织的平民接受?
《论闭门造车的弊病》
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: Stan on May 17, 2014, 01:57:03 am
bm=比尔盖茨,stan=鲍尔默?

(http://www.siongboon.com/projects/2005-00-00_spotronic1_robot/mousetrap.jpg)
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: sfinder on May 17, 2014, 02:02:26 am
bm=比尔盖茨,stan=鲍尔默?

(http://www.siongboon.com/projects/2005-00-00_spotronic1_robot/mousetrap.jpg)

haha.... your son is so cool/cute
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: lzr1900 on May 17, 2014, 02:02:52 am
bm=比尔盖茨,stan=鲍尔默?

(http://www.siongboon.com/projects/2005-00-00_spotronic1_robot/mousetrap.jpg)
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,挺好,这个时候还会自我调侃。继续相信你们。
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: bulabu on May 17, 2014, 04:01:49 am
bm=比尔盖茨,stan=鲍尔默?

(http://www.siongboon.com/projects/2005-00-00_spotronic1_robot/mousetrap.jpg)
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,挺好,这个时候还会自我调侃。继续相信你们。
stan也是够没溜儿的。。。 :)
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: Vendetta on May 17, 2014, 05:15:01 am
相当自信 不跑路 也算奇葩
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: angrywinds on May 18, 2014, 02:58:25 am
各个Dac都有专门的负责人,他们尝试下用pos的时间成本很大吗?他们的尝试并不会影响BM的DPOS的开发进度吧,先出一些pos版的还能充分的测试下业务逻辑,甚至可以先选一个开发进度乐观,万事俱备只欠DPOS的DAC做下试点啊。虽然我个人不看好DPOS能成功,你们要觉得伟大牛逼高大上,以你们死忠的心态也不反驳不了你们。但是我认为尝试下pos并不妨碍你们的DPOS梦想,能稍微提升下支持者的信息又何乐不为呢?
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: angrywinds on May 18, 2014, 03:12:03 am
目测DPOS没出来,其他DAC开发者也很悠闲吧
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: suwoder on May 18, 2014, 10:23:47 pm
我始终觉得3I做事的方法有点问题,如果BTS是一个系统工程,那现在的玩法显得很业余,但愿我错了
Title: Re: 3i是不是可以考虑更换下策略
Post by: PTS中国 on May 18, 2014, 11:57:00 pm
POS满大街都是 问题摆在哪儿 不解决 跑不掉 那你也别想进步 与其如此 创新是值得付出等候的 一些时间成本而已