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Title: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Anytime on May 17, 2014, 03:32:32 pm
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: lzr1900 on May 17, 2014, 04:07:38 pm
believe me,there will be tons of people come here and ask you to be patient plz..LOL
especially stan,that guy will post an awesome meme to calm you down..hahahaa 
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: xeroc on May 17, 2014, 04:16:50 pm
Do you guys read github logs or am I alone

Progress is made .. a product will be released soon (tm)
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: lzr1900 on May 17, 2014, 04:20:28 pm
Do you guys read github logs or am I alone

Progress is made .. a product will be released soon (tm)
yay,very soon,we will see.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: cryptkeeper on May 17, 2014, 04:56:56 pm
these people are really killing the vibe, its starting to piss me off. guys take your time to make sure this product is great quality. I hate downers.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: donkeypong on May 17, 2014, 04:59:36 pm
With the recent progress and the utter lack of competition in 2.0, I am more confident than ever before in Bitshares and the upcoming DACs. They'll be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: xeroc on May 17, 2014, 05:17:21 pm
With the recent progress and the utter lack of competition in 2.0, I am more confident than ever before in Bitshares and the upcoming DACs. They'll be worth the wait.
+5%

haters gonna hate ... and sell there pts to believers cheaply .. yehaa
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Stan on May 17, 2014, 09:44:33 pm
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

This makes me really, really sad too.
(And that's hard to do given what I know about what we have in the pipeline.)

I went back through your posts (all 20 of them).  You are not the typical PSYOPS agent sent here by the competition to sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

(http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SpyVsSpy.jpg)

You have been with us from nearly the beginning!  You have been very polite and clearly trying hard to understand what we are doing.

But the language barrier is hard for us all.  (Especially with so much dis-information posted here by the usual suspects.)  I can understand why you might not be getting a clear picture. 

For example, Google translates one of your recent messages as "Stan eloquence cattle fork."  Well, I recognize all four of those are English words but I still have no idea what it means.  Is that good or bad?   :)

(http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/848c0187-2103-4a28-b8d3-bdebc5e68a0a.jpg)

I have a strange sense of humor.  But does it come across as funny in China?  Or does it just offend?  Dan and I went with two friends to a comedy show in New York.  They were laughing so hard they were rolling in the isles.  I don't think we laughed once in 90 minutes.

Does the phrase "rolling in the isles" mean anything in China?

(http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2912/71/46/24/smiles/763622.jpg)

No doubt, many things people say on this forum do not translate well.  Perhaps you pick up the general meaning, but not the underlying sense of our excitement and confidence.

And if you did, how do you know if that is real?  Those who can read the software and participate in live given and take with bytemaster can make that assessment.  They can read his body language, hear the tone of his voice, watch his youTube videos.  They have the advantage of using full-bandwidth information to know whether this is a good investment or not.

Full bandwidth information is essential to an investors success.  Without it, you might draw the wrong conclusion and go left when the market goes right.  I know it is not fair, but that is the situation all investors face when trying to discern the Truth needed to make wise investments.

I wish I could reach out across those miles (kilometers) and language and cultural differences to convince you what others can see plainly - but I might be lying to you.  Only I know that - unless you can read the fine signals I am sending at full bandwidth with this message.

I only know one thing for sure.  You will be much sadder if you give up before you have seen what lies just beyond this horizon!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BgKYOlq1Tas/TJKr_2j954I/AAAAAAAAAMY/VvWK-MAzRg4/s1600/1_2+price+sale.jpg)


Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: AdamBLevine on May 17, 2014, 10:09:25 pm
Stan, I'm looking for something in your response besides 'It must be a problem with translation or comprehension' - Did I miss it?
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: speedy on May 17, 2014, 11:26:31 pm
I dont understand why you should be upset about PTS losing value - the whole point of it is that it has value up to the snapshot date of a real DAC. It was obviously going to go down in value after Feb 28th.

When BTS X is finally released, its going to be awesome. In the meantime everyone should keep their day job and stop whining.

Cheer up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69IzMxkgOFo
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Anytime on May 18, 2014, 12:30:46 am
Do you guys read github logs or am I alone

Progress is made .. a product will be released soon (tm)

thanks ~ but i don't know anything about programming    :'(
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Anytime on May 18, 2014, 12:38:14 am
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

This makes me really, really sad too.
(And that's hard to do given what I know about what we have in the pipeline.)

I went back through your posts (all 20 of them).  You are not the typical PSYOPS agent sent here by the competition to sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

(http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SpyVsSpy.jpg)

You have been with us from nearly the beginning!  You have been very polite and clearly trying hard to understand what we are doing.

But the language barrier is hard for us all.  (Especially with so much dis-information posted here by the usual suspects.)  I can understand why you might not be getting a clear picture. 

For example, Google translates one of your recent messages as "Stan eloquence cattle fork."  Well, I recognize all four of those are English words but I still have no idea what it means.  Is that good or bad?   :)

(http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/848c0187-2103-4a28-b8d3-bdebc5e68a0a.jpg)

I have a strange sense of humor.  But does it come across as funny in China?  Or does it just offend?  Dan and I went with two friends to a comedy show in New York.  They were laughing so hard they were rolling in the isles.  I don't think we laughed once in 90 minutes.

Does the phrase "rolling in the isles" mean anything in China?

(http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2912/71/46/24/smiles/763622.jpg)

No doubt, many things people say on this forum do not translate well.  Perhaps you pick up the general meaning, but not the underlying sense of our excitement and confidence.

And if you did, how do you know if that is real?  Those who can read the software and participate in live given and take with bytemaster can make that assessment.  They can read his body language, hear the tone of his voice, watch his youTube videos.  They have the advantage of using full-bandwidth information to know whether this is a good investment or not.

Full bandwidth information is essential to an investors success.  Without it, you might draw the wrong conclusion and go left when the market goes right.  I know it is not fair, but that is the situation all investors face when trying to discern the Truth needed to make wise investments.

I wish I could reach out across those miles (kilometers) and language and cultural differences to convince you what others can see plainly - but I might be lying to you.  Only I know that - unless you can read the fine signals I am sending at full bandwidth with this message.

I only know one thing for sure.  You will be much sadder if you give up before you have seen what lies just beyond this horizon!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BgKYOlq1Tas/TJKr_2j954I/AAAAAAAAAMY/VvWK-MAzRg4/s1600/1_2+price+sale.jpg)

"Stan eloquence cattle fork."  means  that  Stan is really good at speaking

your sense of humor does not offend any Chinese, we do think your are funny and eloquent.

but i am just losing my confidence, and i am having a hard time in my life.

whatsoever, hope you guys are heros not liars, i am going to pray for it everyday from now on.

 



Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Stan on May 18, 2014, 12:41:24 am
Stan, I'm looking for something in your response besides 'It must be a problem with translation or comprehension' - Did I miss it?

Obviously.   :)
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Stan on May 18, 2014, 12:50:36 am
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

This makes me really, really sad too.
(And that's hard to do given what I know about what we have in the pipeline.)

I went back through your posts (all 20 of them).  You are not the typical PSYOPS agent sent here by the competition to sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

(http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SpyVsSpy.jpg)

You have been with us from nearly the beginning!  You have been very polite and clearly trying hard to understand what we are doing.

But the language barrier is hard for us all.  (Especially with so much dis-information posted here by the usual suspects.)  I can understand why you might not be getting a clear picture. 

For example, Google translates one of your recent messages as "Stan eloquence cattle fork."  Well, I recognize all four of those are English words but I still have no idea what it means.  Is that good or bad?   :)

(http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/848c0187-2103-4a28-b8d3-bdebc5e68a0a.jpg)

I have a strange sense of humor.  But does it come across as funny in China?  Or does it just offend?  Dan and I went with two friends to a comedy show in New York.  They were laughing so hard they were rolling in the isles.  I don't think we laughed once in 90 minutes.

Does the phrase "rolling in the isles" mean anything in China?

(http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2912/71/46/24/smiles/763622.jpg)

No doubt, many things people say on this forum do not translate well.  Perhaps you pick up the general meaning, but not the underlying sense of our excitement and confidence.

And if you did, how do you know if that is real?  Those who can read the software and participate in live given and take with bytemaster can make that assessment.  They can read his body language, hear the tone of his voice, watch his youTube videos.  They have the advantage of using full-bandwidth information to know whether this is a good investment or not.

Full bandwidth information is essential to an investors success.  Without it, you might draw the wrong conclusion and go left when the market goes right.  I know it is not fair, but that is the situation all investors face when trying to discern the Truth needed to make wise investments.

I wish I could reach out across those miles (kilometers) and language and cultural differences to convince you what others can see plainly - but I might be lying to you.  Only I know that - unless you can read the fine signals I am sending at full bandwidth with this message.

I only know one thing for sure.  You will be much sadder if you give up before you have seen what lies just beyond this horizon!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BgKYOlq1Tas/TJKr_2j954I/AAAAAAAAAMY/VvWK-MAzRg4/s1600/1_2+price+sale.jpg)

"Stan eloquence cattle fork."  means  that  Stan is really good at speaking

your sense of humor does not offend any Chinese, we do think your are funny and eloquent.

but i am just losing my confidence, and i am having a hard time in my life.

whatsoever, hope you guys are heros not liars, i am going to pray for it everyday from now on.

Thank you for that.
It is people like you we are most determined to please.
We know there are others we can never please.
And that is OK. 
Success should go to whichever group has made the wisest choice.
In the end, I think we shall celebrate together.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: crazybit on May 18, 2014, 01:05:49 am
although i am also a bit upset for the delay of production release,i believe we will make it soon, major progress is made according to the github record, the darkest hour is nearest the dawn.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Anytime on May 18, 2014, 03:53:30 am
Can anyone understand the source code written by 3I? i do not know anything about computer programming. i am really not sure if they are really working and have made a lot of progress. all i can see is that many other teams are releasing their newest products, but unitl now 3I has nothing. so if you could understand their progress really,can you share some of your confidence with me.

i am really suffering a hard time in my life. i am about 29 years old. And i haven't achieved any success or made a big money. my girlfriend dumped me a month ago, though we had a long relationship and gonna married, (at least i thought so). my bussiness (a very small bussiness and i am the only emplyee of my company) is not in a very good conditon,  i borrowed 1.2 million RMB (about 200,000 US dollars) from the bank for my new house and funiture. I even cannot afford to buy a car, since i have a big debt.

i am the only child of my family, i am too afraid if i cannot do well in everything , my parents will feel really disappointed. i kind of worry their health codition.

3I is the only hope for me.

I guess the majority of the investors for PTS or AGS might be Chinese, i am just a very ordinary one of them. i know i compain a lot like a bitch, and i think i will try not to do this anymore.

i wrote this post because i hope people could know more information about some Chinese investors, someone like me are kind of like gamblers.

Anyway, thank you all for reading these craps and  negative information.

hope everything will be on track soon, and hope i will not need to say this sentence again.

heroes? legends? liars? jokes?  the time will find out. 
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: lzr1900 on May 18, 2014, 04:08:12 am
Can anyone understand the source code written by 3I? i do not know anything about computer programming. i am really not sure if they are really working and have made a lot of progress. all i can see is that many other teams are releasing their newest products, but unitl now 3I has nothing. so if you could understand their progress really,can you share some of your confidence with me.

i am really suffering a hard time in my life. i am about 29 years old. And i haven't achieved any success or made a big money. my girlfriend dumped me a month ago, though we had a long relationship and gonna married, (at least i thought so). my bussiness (a very small bussiness and i am the only emplyee of my company) is not in a very good conditon,  i borrowed 1.2 million RMB (about 200,000 US dollars) from the bank for my new house and funiture. I even cannot afford to buy a car, since i have a big debt.

i am the only child of my family, i am too afraid if i cannot do well in everything , my parents will feel really disappointed. i kind of worry their health codition.

3I is the only hope for me.

I guess the majority of the investors for PTS or AGS might be Chinese, i am just a very ordinary one of them. i know i compain a lot like a bitch, and i think i will try not to do this anymore.

i wrote this post because i hope people could know more information about some Chinese investors, someone like me are kind of like gamblers.

Anyway, thank you all for reading these craps and  negative information.

hope everything will be on track soon, and hope i will not need to say this sentence again.

heroes? legends? lairs? illusionists?  the time will find out.
ppl,We are here with you.
哥们.同为屌丝,对你的处境感同身受..
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Overthetop on May 18, 2014, 04:29:14 am
Can anyone understand the source code written by 3I? i do not know anything about computer programming. i am really not sure if they are really working and have made a lot of progress. all i can see is that many other teams are releasing their newest products, but unitl now 3I has nothing. so if you could understand their progress really,can you share some of your confidence with me.

i am really suffering a hard time in my life. i am about 29 years old. And i haven't achieved any success or made a big money. my girlfriend dumped me a month ago, though we had a long relationship and gonna married, (at least i thought so). my bussiness (a very small bussiness and i am the only emplyee of my company) is not in a very good conditon,  i borrowed 1.2 million RMB (about 200,000 US dollars) from the bank for my new house and funiture. I even cannot afford to buy a car, since i have a big debt.

i am the only child of my family, i am too afraid if i cannot do well in everything , my parents will feel really disappointed. i kind of worry their health codition.

3I is the only hope for me.

I guess the majority of the investors for PTS or AGS might be Chinese, i am just a very ordinary one of them. i know i compain a lot like a bitch, and i think i will try not to do this anymore.

i wrote this post because i hope people could know more information about some Chinese investors, someone like me are kind of like gamblers.

Anyway, thank you all for reading these craps and  negative information.

hope everything will be on track soon, and hope i will not need to say this sentence again.

heroes? legends? lairs? illusionists?  the time will find out.

Calm down bro.

I am chinaese too :)

Personally, I believe 3I will work out the picture of BTS business system and the things will be better.

IMO, the team of 3i has always been  doing things pratical in development.

 

Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on May 18, 2014, 04:43:13 am
Hey bro, I promise you that the programming team is making progress everyday, though there is still a long way to go. This is a huge project, it's not like making some copycat altcoins. To be honest, no one can guarantee that even if BTS-X is released, your investment will have return. This is what investment is.   
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: donkeypong on May 18, 2014, 04:55:39 am
(http://factorydirectcraft.com/pimages/20100902134213-672420/always_late_but_worth_the_wait_wood_sign.jpg)
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: networker on May 18, 2014, 05:13:40 am
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.
兄弟, 顶住, 虽然我和你一样, 输的裤子都快没有了, 但是我还是没有放弃, 现在是黎明前的黑暗, 坚持过去就是胜利!
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: ssjpts on May 18, 2014, 05:29:29 am
英语这么好,很有助于BTS的推广,加油,为社区贡献自己的一份力量,现实中也加油,就当定期存款,放个2-3年再回头看看。
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: gamey on May 18, 2014, 07:25:44 am

To me either this will work and be huge or it won't.  It may be that the world of DACs just hits too many shortcomings to ever be internet 2.0 or what have you.  I really haven't convinced myself of complete success, but I do think that Dan/I3/Bitshare's approach will have a lot of strengths.

I don't think this type of technology will be dominated so much by the first people to market.  Some things work like that, but these are the building blocks of DACs.  Yes etherium is doing better right now, but if this stuff is going to work, it will be existence from here til the end of the world as we know it.

I'm hoping Dan makes Bitshares toolkit to be the golden standard of DACs.  I think the block times, lack of proof of waste etc are going to shine.  DPOS is untested, but the reasoning behind it seems fairly solid to me.

Anyone want to place a wager Etherium settles on something very similar to DPOS within a few years ?  ;)
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: BTSdac on May 18, 2014, 07:30:02 am
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

This makes me really, really sad too.
(And that's hard to do given what I know about what we have in the pipeline.)

I went back through your posts (all 20 of them).  You are not the typical PSYOPS agent sent here by the competition to sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt. 

(http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SpyVsSpy.jpg)

You have been with us from nearly the beginning!  You have been very polite and clearly trying hard to understand what we are doing.

But the language barrier is hard for us all.  (Especially with so much dis-information posted here by the usual suspects.)  I can understand why you might not be getting a clear picture. 

For example, Google translates one of your recent messages as "Stan eloquence cattle fork."  Well, I recognize all four of those are English words but I still have no idea what it means.  Is that good or bad?   :)

(http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/848c0187-2103-4a28-b8d3-bdebc5e68a0a.jpg)

I have a strange sense of humor.  But does it come across as funny in China?  Or does it just offend?  Dan and I went with two friends to a comedy show in New York.  They were laughing so hard they were rolling in the isles.  I don't think we laughed once in 90 minutes.

Does the phrase "rolling in the isles" mean anything in China?

(http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2912/71/46/24/smiles/763622.jpg)

No doubt, many things people say on this forum do not translate well.  Perhaps you pick up the general meaning, but not the underlying sense of our excitement and confidence.

And if you did, how do you know if that is real?  Those who can read the software and participate in live given and take with bytemaster can make that assessment.  They can read his body language, hear the tone of his voice, watch his youTube videos.  They have the advantage of using full-bandwidth information to know whether this is a good investment or not.

Full bandwidth information is essential to an investors success.  Without it, you might draw the wrong conclusion and go left when the market goes right.  I know it is not fair, but that is the situation all investors face when trying to discern the Truth needed to make wise investments.

I wish I could reach out across those miles (kilometers) and language and cultural differences to convince you what others can see plainly - but I might be lying to you.  Only I know that - unless you can read the fine signals I am sending at full bandwidth with this message.

I only know one thing for sure.  You will be much sadder if you give up before you have seen what lies just beyond this horizon!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BgKYOlq1Tas/TJKr_2j954I/AAAAAAAAAMY/VvWK-MAzRg4/s1600/1_2+price+sale.jpg)
more time on forum ,less time on programing
a sucess product more than 1E100 words 
I hope I am right this time. we are happy together in the end
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: codinat on May 18, 2014, 08:24:54 am
我也真的很伤心!ager们前途黑暗而不是还是最后的一公里!3i你们挡得住产品出来后的抛盘,不要跟我说你们不再乎!那是市场行为!
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: 天籁 on May 18, 2014, 08:29:27 am
In China, there are very little real investment opportunities. We now gather together to witness the development process of a great cause, it is our pleasure.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: ffwong on May 18, 2014, 10:18:36 am
Can anyone understand the source code written by 3I? i do not know anything about computer programming. i am really not sure if they are really working and have made a lot of progress. all i can see is that many other teams are releasing their newest products, but unitl now 3I has nothing. so if you could understand their progress really,can you share some of your confidence with me.

i am really suffering a hard time in my life. i am about 29 years old. And i haven't achieved any success or made a big money. my girlfriend dumped me a month ago, though we had a long relationship and gonna married, (at least i thought so). my bussiness (a very small bussiness and i am the only emplyee of my company) is not in a very good conditon,  i borrowed 1.2 million RMB (about 200,000 US dollars) from the bank for my new house and funiture. I even cannot afford to buy a car, since i have a big debt.

i am the only child of my family, i am too afraid if i cannot do well in everything , my parents will feel really disappointed. i kind of worry their health codition.

3I is the only hope for me.

I guess the majority of the investors for PTS or AGS might be Chinese, i am just a very ordinary one of them. i know i compain a lot like a bitch, and i think i will try not to do this anymore.

i wrote this post because i hope people could know more information about some Chinese investors, someone like me are kind of like gamblers.

Anyway, thank you all for reading these craps and  negative information.

hope everything will be on track soon, and hope i will not need to say this sentence again.

heroes? legends? lairs? illusionists?  the time will find out.


I think your disappointment is because you seems bet on only one investment, Bitshares. And you think you will never success if it fails. As an investor, I also hope Bitshares can succeed. But there is always no 100% guarantee of success in this world.

So far, I can see they have some progress. Though I also don't agree DPOS is so important to fix at this early stage. May be it is hard to change from POW to DPOS if the chain starts. Personally, I think POW (everyone has a chance to compete by whatever means) is fairer than POS or DPOS (richer gets rich, poorer get poor). That is why I don't object POW.

As a Chinese, I fully understand many people measure success mainly on wealth.
Western people seems are more open on different metrics of success.
When I was 29, I also got nothing, not even an apartment like you did.





Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: luckybit on May 18, 2014, 11:38:25 am
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

I think they could launch next week if they wanted to from the test results, but I don't know what is taking so long.

If you waited this long what is another few weeks? If it's delayed until the end of the year then you'd be right we'd all lose faith by then.

With the recent progress and the utter lack of competition in 2.0, I am more confident than ever before in Bitshares and the upcoming DACs. They'll be worth the wait.
This is incorrect. There is plenty of competition. The reason to have patience is because the true value will not be seen until the Bitcoin economy as a whole has an influx of cash pumped into it from the fiat economy. The next time that happens is when you'll see Bitshares and other 2.0 projects really take off.

How long until the next Bitcoin ATH? It could happen at any time but it's not likely to happen until everything is in place. The main problem is there is no way to easily buy and secure Bitcoins. Until they make it easy to buy and secure it there will not be the huge influx of capital.

Anyone remember 2013? I do. Bitcoin was less than $100 at one point, Peercoin was less than 25 cents, and Litecoin was only $3. That same year Litecoin was $30, Peercoin is now over $3 and both these coins will probably stay over $1 at least for the rest of the year.

Overall the trend for altcoins is to go up. If you want that to happen faster then you need to encourage mainstream adoption. To do that you have to make it easy to store and buy.

Circle and Trezor seem to be the main companies focused on doing that.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: luckybit on May 18, 2014, 11:42:07 am
Can anyone understand the source code written by 3I? i do not know anything about computer programming. i am really not sure if they are really working and have made a lot of progress. all i can see is that many other teams are releasing their newest products, but unitl now 3I has nothing. so if you could understand their progress really,can you share some of your confidence with me.

i am really suffering a hard time in my life. i am about 29 years old. And i haven't achieved any success or made a big money. my girlfriend dumped me a month ago, though we had a long relationship and gonna married, (at least i thought so). my bussiness (a very small bussiness and i am the only emplyee of my company) is not in a very good conditon,  i borrowed 1.2 million RMB (about 200,000 US dollars) from the bank for my new house and funiture. I even cannot afford to buy a car, since i have a big debt.

i am the only child of my family, i am too afraid if i cannot do well in everything , my parents will feel really disappointed. i kind of worry their health codition.

3I is the only hope for me.

I guess the majority of the investors for PTS or AGS might be Chinese, i am just a very ordinary one of them. i know i compain a lot like a bitch, and i think i will try not to do this anymore.

i wrote this post because i hope people could know more information about some Chinese investors, someone like me are kind of like gamblers.

Anyway, thank you all for reading these craps and  negative information.

hope everything will be on track soon, and hope i will not need to say this sentence again.

heroes? legends? liars? jokes?  the time will find out.

I've been reading the code and keeping track of the results of every test. They have been making steady progress.

DPOS appears to be working as intended. The GUI is missing for some reason and they are trying to polish and bug fix.

Can we avoid speculating and try to be calm about this? Patience is what we all must have and the more we have invested in this project the more difficult it is to be patient.

This shouldn't be blamed entirely on Bitshares though. The Bitcoin economy as a whole has fallen off a cliff due to China.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: gamey on May 18, 2014, 11:49:09 am

So far, I can see they have some progress. Though I also don't agree DPOS is so important to fix at this early stage. May be it is hard to change from POW to DPOS if the chain starts. Personally, I think POW (everyone has a chance to compete by whatever means) is fairer than POS or DPOS (richer gets rich, poorer get poor). That is why I don't object POW.


DPOS or POS in terms of Bitshares is not meant to be method to distribute coins.  For purely altcurrencies and not shares, POW has a lot stronger argument behind it (it allows a somewhat random distribution of coins initially)  As Dan points out in all his presentations, he is trying to monetize the blockchain technology.  He does this with shares and other tech.  If everyone mined the shares then the idea would never work.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: liondani on May 19, 2014, 11:13:25 am
(http://leadershiptraq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/being-optimistic-work.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5egPr7N8WFI/T5j6YSQTi_I/AAAAAAAABSI/1Sya6JicrUY/s640/lnc+empty.jpg)
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Stan on May 19, 2014, 12:43:22 pm
(http://leadershiptraq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/being-optimistic-work.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5egPr7N8WFI/T5j6YSQTi_I/AAAAAAAABSI/1Sya6JicrUY/s640/lnc+empty.jpg)

Yes, and don't forget to consider the first and second derivatives! 

(Flow rate and flow acceleration).
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: Harvey on May 19, 2014, 05:06:16 pm
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

Never invest more than what you can afford to lose. Make careful decision and live with it.
任何投资都是一个有风险的事情 投之前就改考虑好各种风险 别把自己玩进去了.
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: jae208 on May 19, 2014, 09:43:10 pm
I feel really upset. I've invested quite a mount of money on PTS, but now the price of PTS has really fallen down to the nadir.

however, this is not the worst part because now 3I seems to be a total loser or a  liar.  i think everyone on this boat is gonna lose big money except for 3I team or the really arly investers who left the boat before Febury 28th.

i guess until the end of this year, there will be no product for 3I.
i even think that 3I might become a joke or shame for the whole industry.

really really sad.

Never invest more than what you can afford to lose. Made careful decisions and live with it.
任何投资都是一个有风险的事情 投之前就改考虑好各种风险 别把自己玩进去了.

 +5%
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: game on May 20, 2014, 01:30:44 am
人永远只能靠自己
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: xeroc on May 20, 2014, 10:10:09 am
人永远只能靠自己
ich werde in zukunft auch nur noch auf deutsch schreiben .. seht selbst wie ihr damit klar kommt!!
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: BTSdac on May 20, 2014, 10:33:26 am
(http://leadershiptraq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/being-optimistic-work.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5egPr7N8WFI/T5j6YSQTi_I/AAAAAAAABSI/1Sya6JicrUY/s640/lnc+empty.jpg)

Yes, and don't forget to consider the first and second derivatives! 

(Flow rate and flow acceleration).
it semes that you have much confident. I think there is no choice expect trust you ,
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: pgbit on May 20, 2014, 05:02:09 pm
人永远只能靠自己
ich werde in zukunft auch nur noch auf deutsch schreiben .. seht selbst wie ihr damit klar kommt!!

人永远只能靠自己
>People will always rely on their own

ich werde in zukunft auch nur noch auf deutsch schreiben .. seht selbst wie ihr damit klar kommt!!
>I will only write in the future on German .. see for yourself how you get along with it!

Lost in (Google) Translation, for me anyway...

(https://translate.google.com (https://translate.google.com))

('thinking aloud': ? possibility of a translation services DAC, integrated with advertising?)
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: xeroc on May 20, 2014, 06:33:54 pm
translating chinese when reading this forum via mobile tapatalk is just &#$#%
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: unimercio on May 21, 2014, 08:24:03 am
Stan, I'm looking for something in your response besides 'It must be a problem with translation or comprehension' - Did I miss it?

Obviously.   :)
  +5%  agreed, most predictable, might in another reality he love, respect and truly wish this grand experiment well, choose cooperation over conflict.  :o. 
Title: Re: Today, I really lose the confidence about 3I
Post by: cass on May 27, 2014, 10:00:05 am
人永远只能靠自己
ich werde in zukunft auch nur noch auf deutsch schreiben .. seht selbst wie ihr damit klar kommt!!

dem schließe ich mich an .... :) Bitte seit doch so fair und posted im englischen Forum auch englisch,
machen alle anderen ja auch ;)