funny. That would mean 60% it will be released after sept 1.? I will bet...I think September is when I would expect to see it from the look of the source code but you never know how fast it could be completed.
I think it is difficult to estimate because of first/second derivatives of development speed.I worry other team just copy the codes
If you follow github you will see that we are having daily commits from multiple different developers and issues are being discovered and closed very quickly. Then we will have a growing team of full time developers starting over the next 2 weeks and all of them working in one location toward a single release.
This all makes me very excited about how things are progressing, but I would be unable to estimate any dates.
It's very enticing to make the wager in favor of it being before Sept 1st.Talk is cheap.
...I would be unable to estimate any dates.There's no need for you to worry about that. Estimating the date is what the market is for.
my question is, when will bitshares xt be made liquid?Their market includes "ability to send BTS". Wouldn't that be the same thing?
Give them a few more weeks and checkout the sources and progress at githib .. they are currently bugfixingYou aren't betting, though? Its free money if you're right.
^^ AsymmetricInformation^^ are you involved with the development on the site you posted a link to?No. Although I now feel the need to disclose a few things: I did help them come up with the particular wording of this contract, which is why I'm extra interested in this particular market. Also, I just found out (just now) that the administrators, who are interested in my research, are going to donate the fees they collect for these 3 markets to my Truthcoin project, which is very nice of them (although they [and I] believe that these fees will be very very small). However I still have no affiliation with that site. They've posted in my bitcointalk thread to talk about prediction markets, and sent me a few messages about my work.
I just think it would be better to buy something that already has ‘determined’ (even if changing with each bet) odds. It is kind of hard to 1.come with reasonable odds 2. Wait somebody to hopefully take the other side.Since publishing my work, I've been in contact with several people about their PM ideas/websites. I always suggest the use of Market Scoring Rules, which just say "costs x for y shares" (where y shares are always worth 1 unit, for example 1 BTC). These are much easier to understand, as you say, and you don't need to wait for anyone to take the other side, again as you say.
It's very enticing to make the wager in favor of it being before Sept 1st.Talk is cheap....I would be unable to estimate any dates.There's no need for you to worry about that. Estimating the date is what the market is for.my question is, when will bitshares xt be made liquid?Their market includes "ability to send BTS". Wouldn't that be the same thing?
I was hoping it would be listed on some exchange and have a market cap on coinmarketcap tooGive them a few more weeks and checkout the sources and progress at githib .. they are currently bugfixingYou aren't betting, though? Its free money if you're right.
I myself have no idea when BitsharesX will be released. I know that, in the past, deadlines have been promised and pushed back several months, so I would not be surprised to see them pushed back by months yet again (a la Talebian 'Extremistan'). Instead I noticed that there seems to be investor anxiety, and an interminable debate on this forum as to the release date. This prediction market may be able to solve these problems.
once you can spend it .. it will have value and thus might be listed @ coinmarketcap
once you can spend it .. it will have value and thus might be listed @ coinmarketcap+5%
Is this fairlay.com site legit? who owns it? when did it open?
Very very soon ;D
:D +5% :D
Very very soon ;D
:D +5% :D
Within one month,I guess.
Very very soon ;D
:D +5% :D
Within one month,I guess.
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Stay realistic:
The next release will be BitShares XT which is already a product but not the final goal BitShares X which also includes margin trading.
Stay realistic:
The next release will be BitShares XT which is already a product but not the final goal BitShares X which also includes margin trading.
Hmm… ‘margin trading’ ?!?
Where is the paper/discussion on that? Seems hard to achieve… let me read BM’s thoughts on that…
X will just proof DPOS works .. afair it is 'just another altcoin' based on new code/blockchain and security
X will just proof DPOS works .. afair it is 'just another altcoin' based on new code/blockchain and security
So no trading on BTS XT?
Can toast or BM confirm that.
Why do not call it just PTS X (or half-backed NXT) then?
I got what the T , in XT, stands for.
What the X stands for ? DPOS?
The correct answer is "around August 20th", until someone trades otherwise.
https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/bitcoin/released-date/
Unless those who say otherwise have some other way of proving that they aren't lying. (I'm all ears).
I got what the T , in XT, stands for.
What the X stands for ? DPOS?
The connection to the X family is that it is the proto-DAC (snapshot target) for all the BTS X chains.
So I suppose "PTS X" would have been an appropriate name as well. Sorry if it's misleading.
I got what the T , in XT, stands for.
What the X stands for ? DPOS?
The connection to the X family is that it is the proto-DAC (snapshot target) for all the BTS X chains.
So I suppose "PTS X" would have been an appropriate name as well. Sorry if it's misleading.
No, it turns out BTS XT is actually PTS X; The only connection to bank and ‘eXchange’, I can think off, is that it gives unique possibility for those that did not invest before 02.28 to acquire BTS X for far less money at far later date. This makes it completely objectionable product in my eyes… but it is just one man’s opinion….
I thought the X was in reference to BitShares bank and e'X'change...
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'I'm interested if we are only a few weeks away from a usable consumer product or still monts'
This only depends on your definition of 'consumer product'...
If you want to see DPOS in action - very very soon…if you want to see working bitAssets -seems like not that soon.You can already create and issue assets on the testnet blockchain!!
If you want to see DPOS in action - very very soon…if you want to see working bitAssets -seems like not that soon.
If you want to see DPOS in action - very very soon…if you want to see working bitAssets -seems like not that soon.You can already create and issue assets on the testnet blockchain!!
Right .. as far as I understand ... much like NXT-assetsME-style assets, not BTS X style bitAssets, right?If you want to see DPOS in action - very very soon…if you want to see working bitAssets -seems like not that soon.You can already create and issue assets on the testnet blockchain!!
I got what the T , in XT, stands for.
What the X stands for ? DPOS?
The connection to the X family is that it is the proto-DAC (snapshot target) for all the BTS X chains.
So I suppose "PTS X" would have been an appropriate name as well. Sorry if it's misleading.
No, it turns out BTS XT is actually PTS X; The only connection to bank and ‘eXchange’, I can think off, is that it gives unique possibility for those that did not invest before 02.28 to acquire BTS X for far less money at far later date. ...
‘If you read what I've published I think you'll understand that my primary motivation is just to get the word out about how cool PMs are and how they can save everyone a lot of time and effort. I'm really not trying to push the site or these specific markets, other than that this is an opportunity for investors to actually learn about when the software will actually come out.’
Yes, I know. I have read your whitepaper and the threads here and on bitcointalk. It is really sad that Dan do not to want to invest in developing PM DAC. Though, I do not agree with your opinion that this is because of such DAC will compete with BTS X…
ProtoShares/AGS have been use to generate a snapshot for the BTS-X family (there will be several chains)
These chains will not use the original Protoshare/AGS snapshot but instead use BTS-XT as a source for the snapshots.
All other DACS .. that are not in the BTS-X family, such as Lotto, Music, DNS etc. will use PTS/AGS as source for a snapshot!
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I got what the T , in XT, stands for.
What the X stands for ? DPOS?
The connection to the X family is that it is the proto-DAC (snapshot target) for all the BTS X chains.
So I suppose "PTS X" would have been an appropriate name as well. Sorry if it's misleading.
No, it turns out BTS XT is actually PTS X; The only connection to bank and ‘eXchange’, I can think off, is that it gives unique possibility for those that did not invest before 02.28 to acquire BTS X for far less money at far later date. ...
Can someone please explain the last bolded and underlined part above? How do those who didn't invest before 2.28 get to acquire BTS X?
No new trades at all...seems that no one has any idea when BitsharesX will be released.
Probably much later than September, even, as Dan / Stan would have a reason to withhold trades to that effect.
Either that or this community is all talk, or very poor, or doesn't trust Fairlay.
... doesn't trust Fairlay.
No new trades at all...seems that no one has any idea when BitsharesX will be released.
Probably much later than September, even, as Dan / Stan would have a reason to withhold trades to that effect.
Either that or this community is all talk, or very poor, or doesn't trust Fairlay.
The correct answer is "around August 20th", until someone trades otherwise.It appears BitAssets will be launched the 22th of August.
https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/bitcoin/released-date/
Unless those who say otherwise have some other way of proving that they aren't lying. (I'm all ears).
I'm waiting for Truthcoin to be created.
The correct answer is "around August 20th", until someone trades otherwise.It appears BitAssets will be launched the 22th of August.
https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/bitcoin/released-date/
Unless those who say otherwise have some other way of proving that they aren't lying. (I'm all ears).
I'm impressed.
The correct answer is "around August 20th", until someone trades otherwise.It appears BitAssets will be launched the 22th of August.
https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/bitcoin/released-date/
Unless those who say otherwise have some other way of proving that they aren't lying. (I'm all ears).
I'm impressed.
+5% buy truthcoins
I would if I could.The correct answer is "around August 20th", until someone trades otherwise.It appears BitAssets will be launched the 22th of August.
https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/bitcoin/released-date/
Unless those who say otherwise have some other way of proving that they aren't lying. (I'm all ears).
I'm impressed.
+5% buy truthcoins
Hi - I am one of the admins from fairlay.com
Just found this discussion going on about the predictions of the release date.
Two of them already expired. Since no matched predictions has been placed we have not looked into the "resolution" really.
Of course we would check all the requirements of the prediction in detail if it comes to a real decision.
However, is there interest in this predictions? So far we did MOST of our prediction revenue during the football worldcup - but initially we started this project because we are obsessed by the concept of a prediction market and the block chain technology (and combing these). Sport gambling was meant to be a byproduct at maximum...
I'm waiting for Truthcoin to be created.
Putting a professor in charge of your project can slow things down for a decade or so.