1、Bytemaster作为团队的主要领导者和开发者，请先着眼于项目的开发，不要花太多时间在回复论坛的帖子，希望有公司其他人来完成这些事宜。
2、Bytemaster请在社区发言的时候保持一个慎重的态度，不要轻易发表不成熟的想法，否则很容易引起用户的多种猜测，所有BM的发言，请3I公司的PR经过审查后发出。建议3I至少要准备专门的发言人来对外发出前后一致的声音。
3、在Bitshares项目没有一个稳定的版本出现之前，除非有重大且不可克服的困难出现，请不要再讨论未来的计划和方案，也不要改变目前既定的方案。
4、在AGS全部分配完之前，请Bitshares的开发团队交付社区一个稳定可靠的Bitshares版本，如果无法拿出，请给社区一个有说服力的理由，并且开始准备项目失败后的清算方案。否则，中国社区的多名成员将会在中国和美国同时向3I团队提出欺诈和违法销售证券的诉讼。
亲王的话比较中肯，以我个人角度简单总结一句话就是：希望变绝望，绝望变麻木。
+5% +5%Quote1、Bytemaster作为团队的主要领导者和开发者，请先着眼于项目的开发，不要花太多时间在回复论坛的帖子，希望有公司其他人来完成这些事宜。
+5% +5%Quote2、Bytemaster请在社区发言的时候保持一个慎重的态度，不要轻易发表不成熟的想法，否则很容易引起用户的多种猜测，所有BM的发言，请3I公司的PR经过审查后发出。建议3I至少要准备专门的发言人来对外发出前后一致的声音。
BM在论坛里讨论产品和技术的问题还是非常有必要的，其他的一律经过PR（目前有这个角色吗？）。Quote3、在Bitshares项目没有一个稳定的版本出现之前，除非有重大且不可克服的困难出现，请不要再讨论未来的计划和方案，也不要改变目前既定的方案。
+5% +5%Quote4、在AGS全部分配完之前，请Bitshares的开发团队交付社区一个稳定可靠的Bitshares版本，如果无法拿出，请给社区一个有说服力的理由，并且开始准备项目失败后的清算方案。否则，中国社区的多名成员将会在中国和美国同时向3I团队提出欺诈和违法销售证券的诉讼。
不发表意见。
4、在AGS全部分配完之前，请Bitshares的开发团队交付社区一个稳定可靠的Bitshares版本，如果无法拿出，请给社区一个有说服力的理由，并且开始准备项目失败后的清算方案。否则，中国社区的多名成员将会在中国和美国同时向3I团队提出欺诈和违法销售证券的诉讼。支持前面3点，但第4点是什么道理？象是恐吓
4、在AGS全部分配完之前，请Bitshares的开发团队交付社区一个稳定可靠的Bitshares版本，如果无法拿出，请给社区一个有说服力的理由，并且开始准备项目失败后的清算方案。否则，中国社区的多名成员将会在中国和美国同时向3I团队提出欺诈和违法销售证券的诉讼。支持前面3点，但第4点是什么道理？象是恐吓
为什么AGS分配完之前出不了稳定版本就要准备清算方案？
前面3点同意，最后一天保留意见。妈的 以后谁还敢相信3I 什么玩意
对于第四点，我的看法是，AGS当时说主要就是用于项目的开发，且在AGS发布完前预计产品可以出来。如果截至到AGS成熟的产品还不能拿出来，我们必须正视有可能开发失败的这一可能性，并且如果一旦发生这种可能，领导团队应该有这样的预案而不是反复强调开发难度。所谓的清算方案就是原来筹集资金的归还投资者，或者在全球悬赏新的开发团队，老开发团队全面移交之类的事宜。开发者团队头上应该有利剑。
总之，任何项目管理必须有明确的时间节点，大型项目的时间节点和管理更加是重中之重，一旦无法完成应该有后备方案，而不是无限期拖延和强调困难，这是对投资者的几大不负责任。当然，如果管理团队对投资者的诉求不予理睬，或者完全无视，霸占所有的项目资源不做贡献也不愿意放手，投资者只能找寻其他的解决手段。
对于第四点，我的看法是，AGS当时说主要就是用于项目的开发，且在AGS发布完前预计产品可以出来。如果截至到AGS成熟的产品还不能拿出来，我们必须正视有可能开发失败的这一可能性，并且如果一旦发生这种可能，领导团队应该有这样的预案而不是反复强调开发难度。所谓的清算方案就是原来筹集资金的归还投资者，或者在全球悬赏新的开发团队，老开发团队全面移交之类的事宜。
总之，任何项目管理必须有明确的时间节点，大型项目的时间节点和管理更加是重中之重，一旦无法完成应该有后备方案，而不是无限期拖延和强调困难，这是对投资者的几大不负责任。当然，如果管理团队对投资者的诉求不予理睬，或者完全无视，霸占所有的项目资源不做贡献也不愿意放手，投资者只能找寻其他的解决手段。
对于第四点，我的看法是，AGS当时说主要就是用于项目的开发，且在AGS发布完前预计产品可以出来。如果截至到AGS成熟的产品还不能拿出来，我们必须正视有可能开发失败的这一可能性，并且如果一旦发生这种可能，领导团队应该有这样的预案而不是反复强调开发难度。所谓的清算方案就是原来筹集资金的归还投资者，或者在全球悬赏新的开发团队，老开发团队全面移交之类的事宜。
总之，任何项目管理必须有明确的时间节点，大型项目的时间节点和管理更加是重中之重，一旦无法完成应该有后备方案，而不是无限期拖延和强调困难，这是对投资者的几大不负责任。当然，如果管理团队对投资者的诉求不予理睬，或者完全无视，霸占所有的项目资源不做贡献也不愿意放手，投资者只能找寻其他的解决手段。
中国社区一直是Bitshares项目的重要支持者和投资者，对于Bitshares项目的多次延期和没有实现预期目标，中国社区始终保持极大的克制和理解，同时有大量的支持者参与了Bitshares项目的测试和推广。但是对于Bitshares项目在没有完成原来预定目标的情况下，反复多次试图修改规则，并且不能提供确切有说服力的方式来证明修改的理由，中国Bitshares社区的许多支持者都深感失望。我们出于极大的善意，相信这样的修改建议是对于项目整体发展是有利且必要的，但是我们还是希望整个项目开发组能够首先完成预期目标，然后再谈各种未来的创意。
尽管本人不是3I公司的任何代理人，仅仅是3I公司的一个普通投资者，但是鉴于目前社区混乱的情况，我个人对于Bitshares的领导团队有如下的建议和要求：
1、Bytemaster作为团队的主要领导者和开发者，请先着眼于项目的开发，不要花太多时间在回复论坛的帖子，希望有公司其他人来完成这些事宜。
2、Bytemaster请在社区发言的时候保持一个慎重的态度，不要轻易发表不成熟的想法，否则很容易引起用户的多种猜测，所有BM的发言，请3I公司的PR经过审查后发出。建议3I至少要准备专门的发言人来对外发出前后一致的声音。
3、在Bitshares项目没有一个稳定的版本出现之前，除非有重大且不可克服的困难出现，请不要再讨论未来的计划和方案，也不要改变目前既定的方案。
4、在AGS全部分配完之前，请Bitshares的开发团队交付社区一个稳定可靠的Bitshares版本，如果无法拿出，请给社区一个有说服力的理由，并且开始准备项目失败后的清算方案。否则，中国社区的多名成员将会在中国和美国同时向3I团队提出欺诈和违法销售证券的诉讼。
以上虽为本人个人看法，希望所有中国社区的投资者进行回帖和支持，表达中国社区对现有Bitshares团队的极度不满和抗议，希望Bitshares团队能够引起极大的重视，并对此进行明确的表态。
支持！
暴走恭亲王
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
DREAM ---> PLAN ---> ANOTHER DREAM ---> PLAN ---> ...
3i, create another DREAM or complete your PLAN!
NO ,I donwloaded the wallet and I have tasted it too.I just want to let you to pay attention to my words soWe Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't wanna hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
发现stan完全没明白我们的诉求，我们仅仅是要求完成任务以及少说废话，我不觉得我们是在无谓愤怒的抗议，而是很理智的提出我们的诉求。谁能把我的帖子翻译成英语？
亲王清朝人呢哈哈:D发现stan完全没明白我们的诉求，我们仅仅是要求完成任务以及少说废话，我不觉得我们是在无谓愤怒的抗议，而是很理智的提出我们的诉求。谁能把我的帖子翻译成英语？
暴走恭亲王不会英文？还用别人帮你翻译？
我需要的3I，是像NAS,NXT看齐，先做出一个稳定的产品，再过来跟我们大家谈计划......什么产品都没有，整天这想法，那想法都是不符合实际的......你们是一个公司，请为所以支持者负责，OK?
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
thank you stan.Someone good at english should translate this in Chinese.I think this article answer most of the questionals.We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
Thank you for the polite and patient explanation.
Please understand we have far more at stake in this than anyone else: our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
I am very sorry that I seem too optimistic and arrogant. But that is how optimistic I am. What would you think if I was pessimistic? Then you would be right to be worried. :)
As for arrogant. I know what is involved. I see how hard everyone is working. I am amazed at the talent in the core team. I understand that this flagship product cannot be rushed to release without thorough testing. I know from 40 years of experience what it takes. How do I communicate this to others is a way that is not perceived as arrogant? Who will say these things if I don't? Should these things be left unsaid? How then would you know the truth?
I cannot agree that we have not done well (technically). We have slain every dragon we have encountered. We might wish that there were fewer dragons, but those are what we have encountered on the path to our long-stated goals. We took a ten-week detour to make a critical break-through. That detour cost us the ability to deliver an early Minimum Viable Product (MVP) in the spring, but we are now back on schedule for the same summer milestone we had originally planned: a User Friendly Product (UFP). Make a breakthrough, still reach the next milestone on time, and get developers started on multiple other billion dollar assets at the same time! We have no need to apologize for any of that.
It is true that we have not done well in public relations. We have tried to use the forum as a sounding board to get feedback on our ideas but we recognize that half the world really doesn't want to see the sausage being made. But Bytemaster comes here often because it gives him energy to talk about his ideas and hear your feedback. He works double shifts every day. He goes from team member to team member, instantly in sync with what they are doing and helping guide each one in turn, then he's off to his office for his own coding session. For those of you who have done coding, you know that it takes enormous mental energy and must be done in surges. So when you see him here, making himself available to you and giving you insights about what he is thinking, he is really recharging for another surge of coding.
It is also true that we have not done well on Keyhotee. We chose to focus on BTS-X and contracted Keyhotee out to others. Those others did not have the benefit of working daily with Bytemaster. Months ago we decided it will have to wait on the back burner until BTS-X generates the resources to finish it. So lack of progress on Keyhotee is evidence that we are focused on BTS-X.
As for being fooled. Fooled? We share every thought with you. People complain that we share too much! We are always trying to make a better deal for every investor. We only succeed when you succeed. We have deliberately aligned our interests with yours. We make money the same way you make money - and no other way. Many times we don't pursue what we know would make everyone more money, because we can't achieve a consensus in the community. But we are always offering you our best ideas.
We are doing exactly what we promised to do with everyone's donations (and our own). We are building a new industry with many decentralized players. We have not demanded to own everything. We have settled for a small sliver of the pie. We have been creating opportunities for many others and a chance for early adopters to own a stake in many things.
Read the history of all great undertakings. They are the history of overcoming many obstacles and enduring the criticism of those who are not in the arena, not facing the dragons, and not covered with dust and sweat and blood.
In the end, it will be up to the judgement of each individual whether they profit greatly or give up because they lack the will to persevere.
We will not give up. We will fight the good fight. And we will succeed spectacularly.
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
Thank you for the polite and patient explanation.
Please understand we have far more at stake in this than anyone else: our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
I am very sorry that I seem too optimistic and arrogant. But that is how optimistic I am. What would you think if I was pessimistic? Then you would be right to be worried. :)
As for arrogant. I know what is involved. I see how hard everyone is working. I am amazed at the talent in the core team. I understand that this flagship product cannot be rushed to release without thorough testing. I know from 40 years of experience what it takes. How do I communicate this to others is a way that is not perceived as arrogant? Who will say these things if I don't? Should these things be left unsaid? How then would you know the truth?
I cannot agree that we have not done well (technically). We have slain every dragon we have encountered. We might wish that there were fewer dragons, but those are what we have encountered on the path to our long-stated goals. We took a ten-week detour to make a critical break-through. That detour cost us the ability to deliver an early Minimum Viable Product (MVP) in the spring, but we are now back on schedule for the same summer milestone we had originally planned: a User Friendly Product (UFP). Make a breakthrough, still reach the next milestone on time, and get developers started on multiple other billion dollar assets at the same time! We have no need to apologize for any of that.
It is true that we have not done well in public relations. We have tried to use the forum as a sounding board to get feedback on our ideas but we recognize that half the world really doesn't want to see the sausage being made. But Bytemaster comes here often because it gives him energy to talk about his ideas and hear your feedback. He works double shifts every day. He goes from team member to team member, instantly in sync with what they are doing and helping guide each one in turn, then he's off to his office for his own coding session. For those of you who have done coding, you know that it takes enormous mental energy and must be done in surges. So when you see him here, making himself available to you and giving you insights about what he is thinking, he is really recharging for another surge of coding.
It is also true that we have not done well on Keyhotee. We chose to focus on BTS-X and contracted Keyhotee out to others. Those others did not have the benefit of working daily with Bytemaster. Months ago we decided it will have to wait on the back burner until BTS-X generates the resources to finish it. So lack of progress on Keyhotee is evidence that we are focused on BTS-X.
As for being fooled. Fooled? We share every thought with you. People complain that we share too much! We are always trying to make a better deal for every investor. We only succeed when you succeed. We have deliberately aligned our interests with yours. We make money the same way you make money - and no other way. Many times we don't pursue what we know would make everyone more money, because we can't achieve a consensus in the community. But we are always offering you our best ideas.
We are doing exactly what we promised to do with everyone's donations (and our own). We are building a new industry with many decentralized players. We have not demanded to own everything. We have settled for a small sliver of the pie. We have been creating opportunities for many others and a chance for early adopters to own a stake in many things.
Read the history of all great undertakings. They are the history of overcoming many obstacles and enduring the criticism of those who are not in the arena, not facing the dragons, and not covered with dust and sweat and blood.
In the end, it will be up to the judgement of each individual whether they profit greatly or give up because they lack the will to persevere.
We will not give up. We will fight the good fight. And we will succeed spectacularly.
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
Thank you for the polite and patient explanation.
Please understand we have far more at stake in this than anyone else: our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
I am very sorry that I seem too optimistic and arrogant. But that is how optimistic I am. What would you think if I was pessimistic? Then you would be right to be worried. :)
As for arrogant. I know what is involved. I see how hard everyone is working. I am amazed at the talent in the core team. I understand that this flagship product cannot be rushed to release without thorough testing. I know from 40 years of experience what it takes. How do I communicate this to others in a way that is not perceived as arrogant? Who will say these things if I don't? Should these things be left unsaid? How then would you know the truth?
I cannot agree that we have not done well (technically). We have slain every dragon we have encountered. We might wish that there were fewer dragons, but those are what we have encountered on the path to our long-stated goals. We took a ten-week detour to make a critical break-through. That detour cost us the ability to deliver an early Minimum Viable Product (MVP) in the spring, but we are now back on schedule for the same summer milestone we had originally planned: a User Friendly Product (UFP). Make a breakthrough, still reach the next milestone on time, and get developers started on multiple other billion dollar assets at the same time! We have no need to apologize for any of that.
It is true that we have not done well in public relations. We have tried to use the forum as a sounding board to get feedback on our ideas but we recognize that half the world really doesn't want to see the sausage being made. But Bytemaster comes here often because it gives him energy to talk about his ideas and hear your feedback. He works double shifts every day. He goes from team member to team member, instantly in sync with what they are doing and helping guide each one in turn, then he's off to his office for his own coding session. For those of you who have done coding, you know that it takes enormous mental energy and must be done in surges. So when you see him here, making himself available to you and giving you insights about what he is thinking, he is really recharging for another surge of coding.
It is also true that we have not done well on Keyhotee. We chose to focus on BTS-X and contracted Keyhotee out to others. Those others did not have the benefit of working daily with Bytemaster. Months ago we decided it will have to wait on the back burner until BTS-X generates the resources to finish it. So lack of progress on Keyhotee is evidence that we are focused on BTS-X.
As for being fooled. Fooled? We share every thought with you. People complain that we share too much! We are always trying to make a better deal for every investor. We only succeed when you succeed. We have deliberately aligned our interests with yours. We make money the same way you make money - and no other way. Many times we don't pursue what we know would make everyone more money, because we can't achieve a consensus in the community. But we are always offering you our best ideas.
We are doing exactly what we promised to do with everyone's donations (and our own). We are building a new industry with many decentralized players. We have not demanded to own everything. We have settled for a small sliver of the pie. We have been creating opportunities for many others and a chance for early adopters to own a stake in many things.
Read the history of all great undertakings. They are the history of overcoming many obstacles and enduring the criticism of those who are not in the arena, not facing the dragons, and not covered with dust and sweat and blood.
In the end, it will be up to the judgement of each individual whether they profit greatly or give up because they lack the will to persevere.
We will not give up. We will fight the good fight. And we will succeed spectacularly.
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。Stan.请不要舌灿莲花了，直接回答上面的问题，我会闭嘴的！！！
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
ｗｅｌｌ ｄｏｎｅ！We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't wanna hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。如果bm一开始就是像你说的这样工作，相信就不会有今天的dpos了。dan说bm通过在论坛交流思考获得灵感，我很赞同。我很希望bm能继续在论坛交流自己的想法，不要影响开发就可以。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。如果bm一开始就是像你说的这样工作，相信就不会有今天的dpos了。dan说bm通过在论坛交流思考获得灵感，我很赞同。我很希望bm能继续在论坛交流自己的想法，不要影响开发就可以。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我不明白为什么在这个时刻拿bm的工作方式和开发效率说事？最近这段时间的开发节奏很好，效率也很高。
来自我的 HUAWEI P7-L00 上的 Tapatalk
tapos 失败以后 iii就越来越踏实了，最近BM的效率很高了，我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。如果bm一开始就是像你说的这样工作，相信就不会有今天的dpos了。dan说bm通过在论坛交流思考获得灵感，我很赞同。我很希望bm能继续在论坛交流自己的想法，不要影响开发就可以。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我不明白为什么在这个时刻拿bm的工作方式和开发效率说事？最近这段时间的开发节奏很好，效率也很高。
来自我的 HUAWEI P7-L00 上的 Tapatalk
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright? :D
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't wanna hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。如果bm一开始就是像你说的这样工作，相信就不会有今天的dpos了。dan说bm通过在论坛交流思考获得灵感，我很赞同。我很希望bm能继续在论坛交流自己的想法，不要影响开发就可以。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我不明白为什么在这个时刻拿bm的工作方式和开发效率说事？最近这段时间的开发节奏很好，效率也很高。
来自我的 HUAWEI P7-L00 上的 Tapatalk
+5%我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。如果bm一开始就是像你说的这样工作，相信就不会有今天的dpos了。dan说bm通过在论坛交流思考获得灵感，我很赞同。我很希望bm能继续在论坛交流自己的想法，不要影响开发就可以。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我不明白为什么在这个时刻拿bm的工作方式和开发效率说事？最近这段时间的开发节奏很好，效率也很高。
来自我的 HUAWEI P7-L00 上的 Tapatalk
我认为假设意图限制BM的交流的话，应该仅限于涉及到3I名节、发展路线、投资人权益等经济利益方面，希望他能在3I内部充分沟通之后再提出到论坛，避免引起不必要的波澜
至于BM逛论坛的时间以及讨论技术问题，我觉得完全没必要管人家
还是alt说得好我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。如果bm一开始就是像你说的这样工作，相信就不会有今天的dpos了。dan说bm通过在论坛交流思考获得灵感，我很赞同。我很希望bm能继续在论坛交流自己的想法，不要影响开发就可以。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
我不明白为什么在这个时刻拿bm的工作方式和开发效率说事？最近这段时间的开发节奏很好，效率也很高。
来自我的 HUAWEI P7-L00 上的 Tapatalk
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
very stable up now.
thank you, I3 team.
我看到了stan的回复，我觉得如果我不是生活在中国的话，也许看到这些话会非常激动，很可惜，我生活在一个充斥着表决心和画未来的国度，所以我还是希望stan能够正面回答我的问题，而不是和我们阐述也许会有也许永远不会有的未来。
1. BM能否集中精力在开发，而不是在论坛回复，你们有没有能力管住他，还是公司没有任何人或者机制可以限制他在论坛上无休止的回帖。
2. BM时间是否充足到可以每天在论坛上发帖，而项目不需要他太多的精力？
3. Bitshares项目什么时候可以出来，有没有具体的时间节点和deadline? 在您40年的开发经验中，是否项目管理都是没有时间限制的？
4. 在什么情况下我们可以认为项目开发已经失败或者失控？如果一旦发生，你们有没有后备计划？
请Stan正面回答我的问题，而不是继续说一些纯粹鼓舞的话，谢谢。
I very glad to see the Stan's answer, if i dont live in china, maybe i will so exciting to hear that. but so sorry, i'm living in china, we can hear this sentence everyday, so, i hope stan you can answer me question directly, not just draw great picture for us.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
sorry about me poor english , please answer me question directly first, thank you.
These are excellent (and fun) questions, so I will try to answer them.
1. can BM focus on developing, don't waste too many time on reply posts. can you or 3I can control his reply, dont let him answer question too far, or he is out of control?
BM has developed the discipline to occasionally go several hours at a time without looking at the forum. He has attempted to clear his schedule of all activities except development and manages to squeeze about 6 hours of personal coding and 6 hours of working with individual engineers on their specific assignments. These twelve hours are spread across a typical 16 hour day, leaving him four hours every day for other mentally stimulating tasks to be mixed in as rejuvenating breaks (often while his code is compiling). That leaves him about 8 hours for sleeping and other important biological functions.
2. does BM have enough time to answer the question, you say he have so many time on developing, but we can see he put more time on forum.
Time on the forum is used as a rejuvenation break or a background task while compiling or running a test. It is his way of "staying in touch with the street" Eliminating this time would actually reduce his productivity.
3. when bitshares will be seen a stable version? can you give me timetable or deadline? you said you have 40 years experience on R&D, is your project management all never have any timetable?
I think we are very close, judging from the most recent test results on the forum. Today I noticed this encouraging quote:very stable up now.
thank you, I3 team.
As for making timetables, I have done hundreds in my career. Their utility varies with project type.
If you are running a repeatable assembly line process, like building a row of identical houses, then you can get very good schedules. But even these are subject to uncontrollable events like weather, worker accidents, supplier delays etc.
If your project is making something new, like a more advanced aircraft, then you have to find whatever aircraft is most like it and look at historical data from its development and extrapolate based on an estimate of where the new invention risks are. Generally, such programs are given a cookie cutter schedule with generic milestones like System Requirements Review (SRR), Preliminary Design Review (PDR), Critical Design Review (CDR) and Test Readiness Review (TRR). These are spread out over several years so there will be plenty of time to find and fix problems. On big programs there will often be parallel risk reduction efforts that work on developing technology long before it is needed.
As you move up in risk toward Research and Development projects that are specifically intended to break new ground, the schedule is usually determined arbitrarily by the sponsor based other considerations like budgetary cycles. Here the task is to make as much progress as possible with a given budget of time and money. So the manager's task becomes one variable deliveries within a fixed budget.
In our case, we are developing something that has never been done before with a team that has never worked together before. There is no historical data from which to make an estimate and there is no specified deadline other than "as soon as humanly possible." We do have considerable flexibility in defining our own requirements but in the end, we need to deploy mission critical software that must be trusted with Other People's Money (OPM). We try to minimize the time and money necessary by determining the requirements for a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) one that is good enough to attract permanent customers without immediately being cloned by a competitor who adds the one killer feature we thought we could safely leave out. We have spent much time on this forum in January and February trying to assess what would constitute a MVP. Our general strategy was to release a user friendly product (UFP) by early summer and then we took a shot at releasing an MVP in early spring.
Discovery of new vectors of attack caused us to go back to the drawing board and invent DPOS. This took us 10 extra weeks that we didn't know we would need until the attack vectors were discovered. In a 30 to 60 month development program, you can add contingencies to your plan to allow for unanticipated problems and if you are very lucky, your schedule doesn't slip.
But when you are trying to get a mission critical product out as soon as humanly possible, there is no padding you can add to the schedule. You work as fast as you can and as hard as you can and you never ever ever let anyone pressure you to release the software prematurely. People's fortunes are at stake. You must not fail them.
4. which situation we can consider that project is failure or out of control? when it happened, do you have any plan B?
Everyone here has witnessed how we deal with failure. We find a solution and move on. We have actually gone through perhaps a dozen "failures" since we launched PTS. Failures don't scare us. Failures cause breakthroughs! Thomas Edison once said, "I have not failed a thousand times, I have successfully discovered a thousand ways NOT to make a light bulb."
The only unknown is how many dragons we have left to slay. We have no doubt that we can slay them.
The only unknown is how many dragons we have left to slay. We have no doubt that we can slay them.+5%
Stan, thank you again for the inspiring words.
But, technically, you didn't answer James' questions directly:
4. In case of the failure of the entire BitShares project, is there a Plan B? Put aside your 40 years of R&D experiences in the aerospace industry, it is unrealistic to slay all the dragons, especially in the crypto industry.
Stan, thank you again for the inspiring words.
But, technically, you didn't answer James' questions directly:
4. In case of the failure of the entire BitShares project, is there a Plan B? Put aside your 40 years of R&D experiences in the aerospace industry, it is unrealistic to slay all the dragons, especially in the crypto industry.Our plan is Massively Redundant.
We have multiple DAC families in the works each of which will spawn multiple DACs. We have multiple independent third parties making their own decisions about how to develop and promote their DAC. If any of those teams gets into trouble, other teams can pick up the torch and carry on. Every single failure mode we can think of is covered, including the banning of a DAC in some jurisdiction where it can quickly pop up again in some other jurisdiction. Invictus is, even at this point, not necessary for all this to succeed. And we are deliberately arranging it so that we are less and less critical over time.
On top of all that redundant backup to our own efforts, I am certain that the team we have in place can slay any dragon in the crypto industry if it can be slain. We do not need to slay every dragon, just those unfortunate enough to get in our way.(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/02/Dead-End-Thrills-Skyrim-Dragon.jpg)
Stan是BM的爸爸 :o
可怜天下父母心，BM搞的闹剧，累坏了你这个爸爸Stan是BM的爸爸 :o
"Once I was the master..." :-[ :-X
从Stan的回复来看，唯一的改进就是除了继续废话以外还学会了配图。
我觉得应该邀请Stan先生来中国做政治思想工作，这个应该能发挥他的特长。
3i公司应该认真考虑更换BM，无论项目是否成功都应该准备好B计划，这是一个负责的公司应有的责任。
From the Stan to view, the only improvement is ：In addition to those useless words, add a picture.
I think we should invite Mr. Stan to China do ideological and political work, this should be able to play to his strengths.
3I company should seriously consider replacing the BM, regardless of the success of the project should be ready for the Plan B, this is a responsible company due responsibility.
BM是真正干实事的，肯定不能替换。winXP已经是淘汰产品了，微软今年4月都已经停止更新和维护了，所以钱包从Win7支持，还算正常
多给他找写帮手才是。比如windows的GUI编译，windows兼容性问题，要能在xp win7 32位 64位 都能顺利运行，我估计他就很难搞定，最好找这方面的专家来搞下，等他自己慢慢琢磨太费时间了
家族企业一般都搞不成什么事！当初怎么没想到这点呢，我操