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Title: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 07, 2014, 08:58:49 pm
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.

Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.

We need:

* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs


Here's a list to get you started. Note this only lists 1 or 2 of the 4 data points we need.
Quote
Currencies:
AUD (Australia)
BDT (Bangladesh)
BRL (Brazil)
CAD (Canada)
CNY (China)
EUR (Europe)
GBP (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
IDR (Indonesia)
INR (India)
JPY (Japan)
KRW (South Korea)
MXN (Mexico)
NGN (Nigeria)
PHP (Philippines)
PKR (Pakistan)
RUR (Russia)
USD (United States of America)
VND (Vietnam)

Crypto
Bitcoin
Litecoin
Peercoin

Stock Indices
Global (MSCI World)
China (SSE Composite Index)
India (BSE)
Europe (Eurostoxx 50)
USA (DJIA)
Indonesia (IHSG)
Brasil (Ibovespa)

Commodities
Copper
Gold
Silver
Crude Oil
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: alt on July 07, 2014, 09:16:22 pm
these assets are me style or x style?

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Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bytemaster on July 07, 2014, 09:17:24 pm
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Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: alt on July 07, 2014, 09:21:04 pm
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I remember your plane is only 2 assets, gld and usd, for reason of market deep. so It's not a probkem now?

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Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 07, 2014, 09:22:24 pm
X


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I remember your plane is only 2 assets, gld and usd, for reason of market deep. so It's not a probkem now?

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There is still a minimum market depth requirement, but now any bitasset can trade if it gets enough depth. So in practice only a small number will be trading at any time
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Agent86 on July 07, 2014, 09:38:35 pm
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 07, 2014, 09:44:27 pm
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?

How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Agent86 on July 07, 2014, 09:48:56 pm
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
Ok just asking, I haven't though about it, it just seemed like you could make a bunch of activity at a low price or something.  I also wasn't sure how you are measuring market depth
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 07, 2014, 09:51:29 pm
"depth" is just # of BTSX in orders. So for example you might need 2% of all BTSX on each side (shorts + asks) to turn on trading
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: NewMine on July 07, 2014, 10:10:15 pm
S&P 500 before the DJIA.

Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bitcoinerS on July 07, 2014, 10:19:59 pm
I wonder if there is way to deal with user issued assets that attempt to trick users with similar looking names.

Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Empirical1 on July 07, 2014, 10:34:54 pm
It would be nice if the main bitassets (3-5 Highest volume) formed the focus & were on the main trading page and the other ones were secondary somehow imo.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: NewMine on July 07, 2014, 10:38:02 pm
Hang Seng- Hong Kong index

Nikkei- Japanese index

Commodities:


Aluminum
Natural Gas
RBOB
Brent Crude
Uranium
Wheat
Ethanol
Orange Juice  >:(
Sugar
Pork Bellies
Rice
Propane
Palladium
Platinum
Corn
Steel
Coffee
Butter
Milk
.........

If you are going to have indexes, don't forget:
NDX
OEX
QQQQ
.........

You can also do:
ETF's
Double and triple leveraged ETF's
Short/inverse ETF's which can also be double triple leveraged i.e. FAZ

Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Pheonike on July 07, 2014, 10:49:56 pm
I think we should start out with 5 to 8 assets initially that define the core bitshares assets then wait 30 days or so to allow user created assets. Or perhaps have a weekly vote by users to decide which new assets will be added. By limiting the initial assets we should be able to build the market depth faster for those core assets.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Simeon II on July 07, 2014, 11:26:28 pm
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.

Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.

We need:

* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs




I request:

SHORTS,...    SHORTS,...   SHORTS,....  SHORTS,...                 SHORTS,...     SHORTS,...   SHORTS,....  SHORTS,...



* Name: SHITTY SHORTS
* Symbol: SHORTS

* Precise Description: 1 pair of man’s shorts (N42 to 46; red/blue or yellow – whatever size and colour we have at the moment in stock;) delivery – undeliverable, you are free to pick them from any delegate on the blockchain; We do not vote for delegates that do not carry SHORTS!!!

* Precision: 0 - You do not what your shorts split in parts, do you?

Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: AdamBLevine on July 07, 2014, 11:41:07 pm
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?

How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops

If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents?   Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees.  At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others.  If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: alt on July 07, 2014, 11:54:38 pm
I think usd cny eur btc is enough.
nobody will buy bts with gold or something else like stock.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: alt on July 07, 2014, 11:56:40 pm
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?

How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops

If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents?   Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees.  At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others.  If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?
I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Simeon II on July 08, 2014, 12:05:29 am
I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.

There are 2 styles?

I want my 3 color / 2 size SHORTS (see above) in both styles, please !
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: alt on July 08, 2014, 12:18:57 am
I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.

There are 2 styles?

I want my 3 color / 2 size SHORTS (see above) in both styles, please !
for "X" style, you need to freeze enough XTS as a backup to issue your SHORTS,
and be careful  force margin call when your SHORTS price up, or you will lose all your SHORTS  :D

you need to
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Simeon II on July 08, 2014, 12:21:31 am
I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.

There are 2 styles?

I want my 3 color / 2 size SHORTS (see above) in both styles, please !
for "X" style, you need to freeze enough XTS as a backup to issue your SHORTS,
and be careful  force margin call when your SHORTS price up, or you will lose all your SHORTS  :D

you need to


 +5% +5%  ;D
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 08, 2014, 12:30:12 am
I wonder if there is way to deal with user issued assets that attempt to trick users with similar looking names.

They'll be clearly distinguished in UI, but yes, this concern is part of why we are asking for a list
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bytemaster on July 08, 2014, 12:52:00 am

Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?

How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops

If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents?   Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees.  At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others.  If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?

That would be volume not depth.    You cannot fake depth with less than 5% of the stake. 




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Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 08, 2014, 01:15:05 am
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?

How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops

If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents?   Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees.  At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others.  If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?

How is this at the expense of others? Also you need depth, not volume, so you could only bootstrap an asset if you had enough total % of stake.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: fluxer555 on July 08, 2014, 02:13:46 am
If a minimum market depth of 5% of all BTSX (200,000) is required for trading, this raises a few concerns for me.

This sets a hard cap on the number of BitAssets are trading at a given moment at 20. And, this is could only be achieved if all BTSX were used in trading (no-one holding BTSX) and were exactly evenly distributed among those 20 markets. The realistic cap is probably much lower.

In fact, I don't even know if 5% of all BTSX will ever be committed for trade in any single BitAsset. I think it's possible that 99% of all BTSX will remain as BTSX.

5% is a lot. A more realistic percentage would be prone to market manipulation... what's the solution?
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 08, 2014, 02:19:11 am
The idea is to have a very small number of BitAssets until they are very well understood. I3 can help bootstrap BitUSD and one or two others and those are the only ones that will trade except for by overwhelming demand. The original plan was just to have 3 bitassets anyway.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: merockstar on July 08, 2014, 03:05:58 am
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.

Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.

We need:

* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs


Currencies:

AUD (Australia)
BitAUD
BAUD
One Australian Dollar
Precision: 8

BDT (Bangladesh)
BitBDT
BBDT
One Bangladesh Taka
Precision: 8

BRL (Brazil)
BitBRL
BBRL
One Brazilian Real
Precision: 8

CAD (Canada)
BitCAD
BCAD
One Canadian Dollar
Precision: 8

CNY (China)
BitCNY
BCNY
One Chinese Yuan
Precision: 8

EUR (Europe)
BitEURO
BERO
One Euro
Precision: 8

GBP (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
BitGBP
BGBP
One Great British Pound
Precision: 8

IDR (Indonesia)
BitIDR
BIDR
One Indonesian Rupia
Precision: 8

INR (India)
BitINR
BINR
One  Indian Rupee
Precision: 8

JPY (Japan)
BitJPY
BJPY
One Japanese Yen
Precision: 8

KRW (South Korea)
BitKRW
BKRW
One South Korean Won
Precision: 8

MXN (Mexico)
BitMXN
BMXN
One Mexican Peso
Precision: 8

NGN (Nigeria)
BitNGN
BNGN
One Nigerian Naira
Precision: 8

PHP (Philippines)
BitPHP
BPHP
One Philippine Peso
Precision: 8

PKR (Pakistan)
BitPKR
BPKR
One Pakistani Rupee
Precision: 8

RUR (Russia)
BitRUR
BRUR
One Russian Ruble
Precision: 8

USD (United States of America)
BitUSD
BUSD
One United States Dollar
Precision: 8

VND (Vietnam)
BitVND
BVND
One Vietnam Dong
Precision: 8

Crypto:

Bitcoin
BitBTC
BBTC
One Bitcoin
Precision: 8

Litecoin
BitLTC
BLTC
One Litecoin
Precision: 8

Peercoin
BitPPC
BPPC
One Peercoin
Precision: 8

Stock Indices:
Global (MSCI World)
China (SSE Composite Index)
India (BSE)
Europe (Eurostoxx 50)
USA (DJIA)
Indonesia (IHSG)
Brasil (Ibovespa)

Commodities:
Copper
Gold
Silver
Crude Oil
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: donkeypong on July 08, 2014, 03:28:00 am
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.

Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.

We need:

* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs


Currencies:

AUD (Australia)
BitAUD
BAUD
One Australian Dollar
Precision: 8

BDT (Bangladesh)
BitBDT
BBDT
One Bangladesh Taka
Precision: 8

BRL (Brazil)
BitBRL
BBRL
One Brazilian Real
Precision: 8

CAD (Canada)
BitCAD
BCAD
One Canadian Dollar
Precision: 8

CNY (China)
BitCNY
BCNY
One Chinese Yuan
Precision: 8

EUR (Europe)
BitEURO
BERO
One Euro
Precision: 8

GBP (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
BitGBP
BGBP
One Great British Pound
Precision: 8

IDR (Indonesia)
BitIDR
BIDR
One Indonesian Rupia
Precision: 8

INR (India)
BitINR
BINR
One  Indian Rupee
Precision: 8

JPY (Japan)
BitJPY
BJPY
One Japanese Yen
Precision: 8

KRW (South Korea)
BitKRW
BKRW
One South Korean Won
Precision: 8

MXN (Mexico)
BitMXN
BMXN
One Mexican Peso
Precision: 8

NGN (Nigeria)
BitNGN
BNGN
One Nigerian Naira
Precision: 8

PHP (Philippines)
BitPHP
BPHP
One Philippine Peso
Precision: 8

PKR (Pakistan)
BitPKR
BPKR
One Pakistani Rupee
Precision: 8

RUR (Russia)
BitRUR
BRUR
One Russian Ruble
Precision: 8

USD (United States of America)
BitUSD
BUSD
One United States Dollar
Precision: 8

VND (Vietnam)
BitVND
BVND
One Vietnam Dong
Precision: 8

Crypto:

Bitcoin
BitBTC
BBTC
One Bitcoin
Precision: 8

Litecoin
BitLTC
BLTC
One Litecoin
Precision: 8

Peercoin
BitPPC
BPPC
One Peercoin
Precision: 8

Stock Indices:
Global (MSCI World)
China (SSE Composite Index)
India (BSE)
Europe (Eurostoxx 50)
USA (DJIA)
Indonesia (IHSG)
Brasil (Ibovespa)

Commodities:
Copper
Gold
Silver
Crude Oil

Those, plus I'd throw on a few more currencies which are particularly important to the world economic system, particularly large regions of it:

Swiss Franc (CHF, Switzerland)
BitCHF
BCHF
One Swiss Franc
Precision: 8

Saudi Riyal (SAR, Saudi Arabia)
BitSAR
BSAR
One Saudi Riyal (a.k.a 'barrel of oil'...just kidding)
Precision: 8

South African Rand (ZAR, South Africa)
BitZAR
BZAR
One South African Rand
Precision: 8

Swedish Krona (SEK, Sweden)
BitSEK
BSEK
One Swedish Krona
Precision: 8

etc...
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Empirical1 on July 08, 2014, 03:47:45 am
The idea is to have a very small number of BitAssets until they are very well understood. I3 can help bootstrap BitUSD and one or two others and those are the only ones that will trade except for by overwhelming demand. The original plan was just to have 3 bitassets anyway.

 +5% Cool bananas   :D
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bodenliu on July 08, 2014, 04:20:21 am
i would suggest to go with only bitBTC and bitUSD at the very first begining.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: cygnify on July 08, 2014, 04:28:04 am
Is there somewhere I can read to find out how these prices track the actual price of the commodity traded? Or someone explain it here. Can't get my head around it at the moment.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 08, 2014, 04:29:08 am
try this:  http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Market_Peg
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: onceuponatime on July 08, 2014, 04:31:25 am
Is there somewhere I can read to find out how these prices track the actual price of the commodity traded? Or someone explain it here. Can't get my head around it at the moment.

The White Paper is here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RLcjSXWuU9vBJzzqLEXVACSCdn8zXKTTJRN_LfoCjNY/edit?pli=1#
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: changematey on July 08, 2014, 05:58:42 am
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?

How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops

If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents?   Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees.  At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others.  If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?

How is this at the expense of others? Also you need depth, not volume, so you could only bootstrap an asset if you had enough total % of stake.
In a very basic penny trade operation, what really happens is a group of people hold maximum of the security. So they can create a market depth and trade within themselves raising the price at the expense of others.

Example assume security currently at 0.001 BTS. A total of 6 people hold majority of the security - x,y,z,a,b,c with say 100 bts between them.
So what they do is - x sells to y sells to z sells to a sells to b sells to c sells to x..... with each increasing tick of 0.0001 bts. Same bts can be circulated and reused to do another buy operation.

Now for a causal observer it is increasing prices = profit so many people will start to jump in. So while the cost will not "only" be the fees but once it is picked up by market, I can slowly unload my shares and run away.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: cygnify on July 08, 2014, 07:31:25 am
Is there somewhere I can read to find out how these prices track the actual price of the commodity traded? Or someone explain it here. Can't get my head around it at the moment.

The White Paper is here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RLcjSXWuU9vBJzzqLEXVACSCdn8zXKTTJRN_LfoCjNY/edit?pli=1#

Awesome. Pretty easy to understand with the horse betting analogy, something I know a lot about :)
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bitcoinerS on July 08, 2014, 08:17:48 am
Probably not for this blockchain (BTSX), but I got this from
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Market_Peg

Bit_MSFT_QtrRev (Microsoft's quarterly revenue)
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: luckybit on July 08, 2014, 09:32:56 am
Hang Seng- Hong Kong index

Nikkei- Japanese index

Commodities:


Aluminum
Natural Gas
RBOB
Brent Crude
Uranium
Wheat
Ethanol
Orange Juice  >:(
Sugar
Pork Bellies
Rice
Propane
Palladium
Platinum
Corn
Steel
Coffee
Butter
Milk
.........

If you are going to have indexes, don't forget:
NDX
OEX
QQQQ
.........

You can also do:
ETF's
Double and triple leveraged ETF's
Short/inverse ETF's which can also be double triple leveraged i.e. FAZ

How about some assets relevant to our market demographic? Computer chips, ram, graphics cards,?
How about LTBcoin? Mastercoin? Swarmcoin? Counterparty? Safecoin? DAC Index? Proof of Stake Index?

Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: luckybit on July 08, 2014, 09:35:57 am
I wonder if there is way to deal with user issued assets that attempt to trick users with similar looking names.

Is there an incentive for users to issue quality assets?

I can think of one. How about CO2 to represent carbon emissions?
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Harvey on July 08, 2014, 11:27:31 am
It seems that the name of XBT is becoming more popular than the BTC.
How about we use bitXBT instead of bitBTC?


I think that the currency of Russia should be Russia Ruble (RUB) rather than RUR, which refers to the Russia ruble before 1998.   
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bitbro on July 08, 2014, 11:44:08 am

Hang Seng- Hong Kong index

Nikkei- Japanese index

Commodities:


Aluminum
Natural Gas
RBOB
Brent Crude
Uranium
Wheat
Ethanol
Orange Juice  >:(
Sugar
Pork Bellies
Rice
Propane
Palladium
Platinum
Corn
Steel
Coffee
Butter
Milk
.........

If you are going to have indexes, don't forget:
NDX
OEX
QQQQ
.........

You can also do:
ETF's
Double and triple leveraged ETF's
Short/inverse ETF's which can also be double triple leveraged i.e. FAZ

How about some assets relevant to our market demographic? Computer chips, ram, graphics cards,?
How about LTBcoin? Mastercoin? Swarmcoin? Counterparty? Safecoin? DAC Index? Proof of Stake Index?

There's so much scamming involved in alt coins and funds like swarm, I think we should avoid posting any of these


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Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: Bitshark on July 08, 2014, 12:58:39 pm
Can someone link me as to how bitassets will work?
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: xeroc on July 08, 2014, 01:03:26 pm
Can someone link me as to how bitassets will work?
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Market_Peg
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Bitshares_X
hope these help .. you there are unanswered questions tell us .. we can expand the wiki
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: xeroc on July 08, 2014, 02:43:48 pm
I can recommend scrolling through the git repo:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit/master/libraries/blockchain/genesis.json
Code: [Select]
{
    "timestamp" : "20140707T000000",
    "market_assets": [
        {
            "symbol": "PTS",
            "name": "BitShares PTS"
            "description": "1 PTS"
            "precision": 100000000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "PPC",
            "name": "Peercoin"
            "description": "1 peercoin"
            "precision": 100000000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "LTC",
            "name": "Litecoin"
            "description": "1 litecoin"
            "precision": 100000000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "BTC",
            "name": "Bitcoin",
            "description": "1 bitcoin",
            "precision": 100000000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "WTI",
            "name": "Light Sweet Crude Oil",
            "description": "1 barrel light sweet crude oil",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "SLV",
            "name": "Silver",
            "description": "1 troy ounce .999 fine silver",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "GLD",
            "name": "Gold",
            "description": "1 troy ounce .999 fine gold",
            "precision": 1000000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "TRY",
            "name": "Turkish Lira",
            "description": "1 Turkish lira",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "SGD",
            "name": "Singapore Dollar"
            "description": "1 Singapore dollar",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "HKD",
            "name": "Hong Kong Dollar"
            "description": "1 Hong Kong dollar",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "RUB",
            "name": "Russian Ruble"
            "description": "1 Russian ruble",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "SEK",
            "name": "Swedish Krona"
            "description": "1 Swedish krona",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "NZD",
            "name": "New Zealand Dollar"
            "description": "1 New Zealand dollar",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "CNY",
            "name": "Chinese Yuan"
            "description": "1 Chinese yuan",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "MXN",
            "name": "Mexican Peso"
            "description": "1 Mexican peso",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "CAD",
            "name": "Canadian Dollar",
            "description": "1 Canadian dollar",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "CHF",
            "name": "Swiss Franc",
            "description": "1 Swiss franc",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "AUD",
            "name": "Australian Dollar"
            "description": "1 Australian dollar",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "GBP",
            "name": "Pound sterling",
            "description": "1 pound sterling",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "JPY",
            "name": "Japanese Yen",
            "description": "1 Japanese yen",
            "precision": 100
        },
        {
            "symbol": "EUR",
            "name": "Euro",
            "description": "1 euro",
            "precision": 10000
        },
        {
            "symbol": "USD",
            "name": "United States Dollar",
            "description": "1 United States dollar",
            "precision": 10000
        }
    ],
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bitmeat on July 09, 2014, 07:04:59 am
Make sure you do AGS as per my post here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5526.msg73880

Seriously - this would be awesome if we made AGS liquid using BTSX.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: donkeypong on July 09, 2014, 04:21:40 pm
Make sure you do AGS as per my post here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5526.msg73880

Seriously - this would be awesome if we made AGS liquid using BTSX.

I love the idea of making AGS liquid. But I'm not sure I'd support doing so through BitShares X or (for legal reasons) asking Invictus to take any role in that. I think an independent effort to create an AGS-linked coin would be best. Once PTS is reformed with the DPOS included, couldn't someone just copy that and airdrop to AGS holders? Of course, it could have some other twists to it as well, not just a vehicle to dump AGS value, but perhaps linked to a DAC or charity.

EDIT: Let me add that AGS should have a ton of value even without being liquid. I trust that DACs will follow the social consensus and air-drop to AGS donors. AGS donors should be quite happy with this value, whether or not it is made liquid at some point in the future.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 09, 2014, 04:43:39 pm
This is for BITassets and NOT normal user-issued assets. AGS cannot be a bitasset (market-pegged asset)...

Someone could make "AGS" if they wanted but it would have to be a normal user-issued asset.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: sfinder on July 09, 2014, 05:07:07 pm
This is for BITassets and NOT normal user-issued assets. AGS cannot be a bitasset (market-pegged asset)...

Someone could make "AGS" if they wanted but it would have to be a normal user-issued asset.

what is the cost to create a asset in this test chain? It seems like need more than 85M xts for creating my own asset. it is insane...............
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 09, 2014, 05:11:15 pm
It adjusts based on average trx fee. If people keep doing these expensive operations it gets pushed up.

We will take a look at it to make sure it is not so crazy.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bitmeat on July 09, 2014, 05:11:37 pm
Invictus honored PTS which is liquid. This is now silly, or I don't understand legal well enough.

Either way. I've been pushing for AGS being liquid, mostly because I don't like the idea of entering the same private key in all the programs that come out.
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: toast on July 09, 2014, 05:27:05 pm
Invictus honored PTS which is liquid. This is now silly, or I don't understand legal well enough.

Either way. I've been pushing for AGS being liquid, mostly because I don't like the idea of entering the same private key in all the programs that come out.

It's fine if AGS is made liquid, that is a separate discussoin as AGS cannot be a bitasset.

Can we get back on track?
Title: Re: List of BitAssets to pre-register
Post by: bitmeat on July 09, 2014, 05:32:25 pm
My bad, for some reason I thought it was a discussion about what asset names to reserve. But didn't realize it's only BitAssets. Thanks for clarification.