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Title: The rise in price?
Post by: Ggozzo on August 21, 2014, 10:03:44 pm
Is it possible the rise in price is because people think they will receive DNS and Vote shares by buying BTSX?

I am not complaining, BTSX should be even higher. But I have a feeling since PTS isn't rising that a lot of people may be thinking BTSX is the buy in for the snapshot in 2 hours. We may see a sell of tomorrow.
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: xeroc on August 21, 2014, 10:16:36 pm
I dont think so .. it is probably because of the soonish to be opend marekt feature
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: mavisjames on August 21, 2014, 11:54:25 pm
Is it possible the rise in price is because people think they will receive DNS and Vote shares by buying BTSX?

I am not complaining, BTSX should be even higher. But I have a feeling since PTS isn't rising that a lot of people may be thinking BTSX is the buy in for the snapshot in 2 hours. We may see a sell of tomorrow.

Not with this kind of volume... look at the size of some buy orders. some major money being dumped into BTS
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: Gentso1 on August 22, 2014, 12:06:43 am
It doesn't take a market annalist to figure out that if the market works we got a bitGLD mine here. Even at its current price its a steal......if it works.
Fyi I half heartedly hope it flops gets dumped on exchanges and I can then reload while its fixed within 24hrs. Does this make me greedy?
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: donkeypong on August 22, 2014, 12:41:39 am
...if the market works we got a bitGLD mine here.

That's one of the best quotes I've seen.
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: tonyk on August 22, 2014, 12:46:29 am
...if the market works we got a bitGLD mine here.

That's one of the best quotes I've seen.

I second that!  +5%
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: hughmanwho on August 22, 2014, 01:00:23 am
Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.

Yesterday I was thinking looks like a bubble about to form and bought.. today, I say sell. It's a bubble.

 I think it's the rumor about Ethereum and when people realize that Ethernet isn't interested in a partnership and that one way partnerships don't work.. they'll dump.
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: tonyk on August 22, 2014, 01:04:48 am
Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.

Yesterday I was thinking looks like a bubble about to form and bought.. today, I say sell. It's a bubble.

 I think it's the rumor about Ethereum and when people realize that Ethernet isn't interested in a partnership and that one way partnerships don't work.. they'll dump.

Just remember the BTC/Pizza story. Good luck!
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: bytemaster on August 22, 2014, 01:06:02 am

Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.

Yesterday I was thinking looks like a bubble about to form and bought.. today, I say sell. It's a bubble.

 I think it's the rumor about Ethereum and when people realize that Ethernet isn't interested in a partnership and that one way partnerships don't work.. they'll dump.

You don't understand the difference between user issued assets and market issued assets. 


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Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: liondani on August 22, 2014, 01:07:56 am
prepare the next days to see here more trolls  ;)
don't bother it's a very good sign  :)
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: Gentso1 on August 22, 2014, 01:13:46 am
Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.

Yesterday I was thinking looks like a bubble about to form and bought.. today, I say sell. It's a bubble.

 I think it's the rumor about Ethereum and when people realize that Ethernet isn't interested in a partnership and that one way partnerships don't work.. they'll dump.

I have read very little about nxt but after skimming through what they are doing the is
in there system anyone can create a asset like ours....check
theirs is backed by trust and reputation........ours is backed by btsx which is held a collateral, (worth noting this is currently  $39,758,297 worth of collateral)
The amount of collateral is determined by the market peg that comes from feeds sent to delegates then broadcast through out the network

The one in bold is really the super important one for me.
The great part is as the system is used it should be self feeding with btsx being worth more and thus raising the total amount that the market can support in assets.
Please correct or scold me where necessary :P
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: merockstar on August 22, 2014, 03:06:18 am
Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.


not exactly. 2 dollars worth of collateral in btsx get's held, then if the person shorting doesn't cover, that gets destroyed.

if they do cover, that bitUSD gets destroyed, helping to stabilize the price.

so it's more than just "hey guys! we decree that this shall be worth a dollar because we doth say so!"
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: xeroc on August 22, 2014, 07:23:57 am
for a quick reading:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Market_Peg

it's really fancy ... took my a couple of weeks to 'get it' (as I am not into economics) ... but BM found an awesome solution to that
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: eagleeye on August 22, 2014, 10:43:50 am
Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.

Yesterday I was thinking looks like a bubble about to form and bought.. today, I say sell. It's a bubble.

 I think it's the rumor about Ethereum and when people realize that Ethernet isn't interested in a partnership and that one way partnerships don't work.. they'll dump.

I have read very little about nxt but after skimming through what they are doing the is
in there system anyone can create a asset like ours....check
theirs is backed by trust and reputation........ours is backed by btsx which is held a collateral, (worth noting this is currently  $39,758,297 worth of collateral)
The amount of collateral is determined by the market peg that comes from feeds sent to delegates then broadcast through out the network

The one in bold is really the super important one for me.
The great part is as the system is used it should be self feeding with btsx being worth more and thus raising the total amount that the market can support in assets.
Please correct or scold me where necessary :P

How will it work if there is more bitUSD then BitSharesX?
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: xeroc on August 22, 2014, 11:10:50 am
once a
0.00001 btsx (basically a satoshi in btsx) is worth a USD the system is screwed ..
that is 2e15 USD 2.000.000.000.000.000 = USD 2.000.000.000M = USD 2.000.000B = USD 2.000 trillion

should be enough
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: luckybit on August 22, 2014, 02:26:09 pm
Nxt has had this for months.. don't understand why it's anything special.. start an asset and try to get people to agree it's worth $1 each..  ShortNxt basically does exactly this.

Yesterday I was thinking looks like a bubble about to form and bought.. today, I say sell. It's a bubble.

 I think it's the rumor about Ethereum and when people realize that Ethernet isn't interested in a partnership and that one way partnerships don't work.. they'll dump.

I have read very little about nxt but after skimming through what they are doing the is
in there system anyone can create a asset like ours....check
theirs is backed by trust and reputation........ours is backed by btsx which is held a collateral, (worth noting this is currently  $39,758,297 worth of collateral)
The amount of collateral is determined by the market peg that comes from feeds sent to delegates then broadcast through out the network

The one in bold is really the super important one for me.
The great part is as the system is used it should be self feeding with btsx being worth more and thus raising the total amount that the market can support in assets.
Please correct or scold me where necessary :P

Their system backed by trust and reputation is more vulnerable to scams and collusion. It's one of the reasons I prefer Bitshares.

I don't think we should rely on trust in people when we can trust math. Humans are historically corrupt and it goes worse the higher up in power you go.
Title: Re: The rise in price?
Post by: bytemaster on August 22, 2014, 02:29:47 pm
Quote
theirs is backed by trust and reputation........ours is backed by btsx which is held a collateral, (worth noting this is currently  $39,758,297 $60,000,000 worth of collateral)