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Title: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: biophil on August 22, 2014, 03:00:21 pm
Do we have any way of knowing how many shares have been claimed from genesis? If we did, we'd have an upper bound on the float of BTSX and we could more carefully evaluate the market dynamics. Recall Auroracoin: their float was tiny, maybe 5%, so their market cap looked huge when it was based on very low trade volume. Clearly our float is significantly bigger than that. You can see that just from our $3M trade volume. Clearly we're not doing that with a 5% float. But anyway, does anybody have an estimate of our float?

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Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: bytemaster on August 22, 2014, 03:10:41 pm
We are adding an API call to calculate that now.
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: MrJeans on August 22, 2014, 03:34:20 pm
We are adding an API call to calculate that now.
This would be interesting to see.
I have not claimed yet as I am waiting for a wallet that will allow me to point at my wallet.dat files for bitcoin and pts where I have some angel shares. I am not comfortable exporting and importing private keys
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 22, 2014, 03:35:33 pm
We are adding an API call to calculate that now.
This would be interesting to see.
I have not claimed yet as I am waiting for a wallet that will allow me to point at my wallet.dat files for bitcoin and pts where I have some angel shares. I am not comfortable exporting and importing private keys
You already can use your .dat file:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Bitshares-x-how-to#Attempting_a_wallet_import_to_receive_BTSX_from_February_28th_snapshot
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: MrJeans on August 22, 2014, 08:47:12 pm
We are adding an API call to calculate that now.
This would be interesting to see.
I have not claimed yet as I am waiting for a wallet that will allow me to point at my wallet.dat files for bitcoin and pts where I have some angel shares. I am not comfortable exporting and importing private keys
You already can use your .dat file:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Bitshares-x-how-to#Attempting_a_wallet_import_to_receive_BTSX_from_February_28th_snapshot
great stuff, thanks.
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: vikram on August 23, 2014, 12:08:56 am
Take a look at the blockchain_unclaimed_genesis command in 0.4.6:
Code: [Select]
(wallet closed) >>> h blockchain_unclaimed_genesis
Usage:
blockchain_unclaimed_genesis
Returns the total shares in the genesis block which have never been fully or partially claimed.

Parameters:
  (none)

Returns:
  asset
(wallet closed) >>> blockchain_unclaimed_genesis
1,020,188,520.72767 BTSX
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: Shentist on August 23, 2014, 08:43:37 am
Take a look at the blockchain_unclaimed_genesis command in 0.4.6:
Code: [Select]
(wallet closed) >>> h blockchain_unclaimed_genesis
Usage:
blockchain_unclaimed_genesis
Returns the total shares in the genesis block which have never been fully or partially claimed.

Parameters:
  (none)

Returns:
  asset
(wallet closed) >>> blockchain_unclaimed_genesis
1,020,188,520.72767 BTSX

cool - so 50% are claimed :D +5%
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 23, 2014, 08:48:51 am
maybe I need to import all may backup pts wallets .. just to be sure I don't 'miss' any ;-)
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: mf-tzo on August 23, 2014, 09:21:25 am
I would expect that something like 20% has been claimed not 50%... :o
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: toa on August 23, 2014, 11:24:56 am
I used an armory wallet. Still haven't successfully imported.
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: toa on August 23, 2014, 11:37:48 am
Speaking of... Wasn't there a bounty paid for a functional importing of wallets?
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: bobohuy on August 23, 2014, 11:50:24 am
Just out of curiosity, why importing the .dat file is preferred to private key? Is private key  in the .dat file anyway ?
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 23, 2014, 12:07:13 pm
I personally do not want to export every private key for every single change address i have in my pts wallet ..
i do not .. and never had all my pts in one address ..

importing the .dat file makes it MUCH easier
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 23, 2014, 01:59:37 pm
maybe I need to import all may backup pts wallets .. just to be sure I don't 'miss' any ;-)
turns out ... after importing about 50 wallet.dat files and like 100 private keys I found one unmoved genesis stake worth around 350 btsx :)
*party* -- free money ...

Seems I had a little PTS left in some of my wallets before the snapshot ..
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: toa on August 23, 2014, 02:15:04 pm
I did try to import by private keys as well. And after seriously exposing my keys and about an hour of my time... still nothing.
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: bitmeat on August 23, 2014, 02:16:36 pm
I did try to import by private keys as well. And after seriously exposing my keys and about an hour of my time... still nothing.

Did you have a stake prior to the Feb 28th snapshot?
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 23, 2014, 02:32:12 pm
I did try to import by private keys as well. And after seriously exposing my keys and about an hour of my time... still nothing.
Do the addresses of your private keys actually hold btsx?
 - have they hold PTS on the 28. of february?
 - or have you donated pts or btc to the ags funds?
 - you are a keyhotee founder?
if none of the above you can stop trying, because you just don't have an initial stake ..

further you can also import the wallet.dat file into the wallet which makes it much easier and also is more secure
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: mint chocolate chip on August 23, 2014, 03:04:01 pm
There is not a time frame to claim is there?

For instance a user could do it 3 years from now? If so, would the inactivity fee be applied in this scenario for each year the BTSX had sat unclaimed?
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 23, 2014, 03:07:51 pm
For instance a user could do it 3 years from now? If so, would the inactivity fee be applied in this scenario for each year the BTSX had sat unclaimed?
*confirmed* .. each year!
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: toa on August 23, 2014, 03:12:59 pm
Yes I had a stake. I have several times used the explorer to confirm. I watched my transactions go through, and they are to the Angel address. And yes prior to the 28th of February.
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: toa on August 23, 2014, 03:19:31 pm
Looks like BrownBear was paid a 300 pts bounty for Armory support. If we are still paying bounties for code that doesn't work, then I can finally quit my day job.
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: xeroc on August 23, 2014, 03:27:40 pm
Yes I had a stake. I have several times used the explorer to confirm. I watched my transactions go through, and they are to the Angel address. And yes prior to the 28th of February.
So if you haven't moved the stake out of the genesis .. you can access them by simply importing the private keys to that stake
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Bitshares-x-how-to#Attempting_a_wallet_import_to_receive_BTSX_from_February_28th_snapshot
Title: Re: How many shares of BTSX have been claimed?
Post by: Shentist on August 23, 2014, 03:42:10 pm
toa

armory is still buggy or not function

i tried this

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6833.0

worked but it is or was a pain in the ass. if you use the armory wallet for normal use you have probably hundrets key to import and check. needed a little bit time, but it worked.