interesting. But if its a bitshares x family, wouldnt it make more sence to give shares to btsx holders rather then pts holders?
What is the purpose of this?
What is the purpose of this?
I am thinking it is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeshare
Cool! Looking forward to seeing how this develops....and maybe getting my self some nice vacation locations :D .
I can see how this can use BitSharesX platform as TimeShares will have different values by location, time of year, current events, weather, etc. A futures prediction market if I ever saw one.
Would the properties be bitAssets?
Hey Riverhead
I am thinking it is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeshare
Cool! Looking forward to seeing how this develops....and maybe getting my self some nice vacation locations :D .
I can see how this can use BitSharesX platform as TimeShares will have different values by location, time of year, current events, weather, etc. A futures prediction market if I ever saw one.
Would the properties be bitAssets?Hey Riverhead
I am thinking it is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeshare
This DAC isn't related to real timeshares
Maybe the name suggests that it does.
If you have suggestions on a different name that would suite the project better that would be nice.
However what you said is a great idea and maybe bitassets can be made for them.
It can be used like a normal coinCool! Looking forward to seeing how this develops....and maybe getting my self some nice vacation locations :D .
I can see how this can use BitSharesX platform as TimeShares will have different values by location, time of year, current events, weather, etc. A futures prediction market if I ever saw one.
Would the properties be bitAssets?Hey Riverhead
I am thinking it is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeshare
This DAC isn't related to real timeshares
Maybe the name suggests that it does.
If you have suggestions on a different name that would suite the project better that would be nice.
However what you said is a great idea and maybe bitassets can be made for them.
I'm confused. What exactly would the "timeshares" be used for? What is their value?
You can spend it on things people are willing to sell for 1 hour of the TimeShares
Ok, add me to the list of confused people then :) .
The name TimeShares - what does it refer to? What is being time shared? Say I have an hour of time...what do I spend it on?
Time Bank?+5% :D
Welcome! +5%
Time Bank?+5% :D
Welcome! +5%
Thats a better name
interesting. But if its a bitshares x family, wouldnt it make more sence to give shares to btsx holders rather then pts holders?
It is like from the movie with justin timberlake, where they have time on their arms. You could use chips to implant under the skin.
This has given me an idea. I may create a DAC called MonthShares. It will be denominated in months. If you have 24, the wallet will show 2 years. The purpose of the DAC is to let people trade, ah, months of time...something like that...still working on the details...will update soon.
Yes that is how it can workTime Bank?+5% :D
Welcome! +5%
Thats a better name
Yeh...Really like that. I would imagine the Time would have a value based in the average value across all services? Then you xfer Timeshares tokens to purchase shares in worker's timetokens? So...for instance:
Bob buys 24Hours, looks on the exchange for someone who is offering Web Development Services (Tim). Tim accepts only accepts TimDevHours, which are currently market pegged at a value 50% higher than the average Hour. So Bob uses 1 Hour and 30 Minutes to buy 1 TimDevHour.
Is this how it would work? I think the confusion lies in "what is this time going to purchase?"
Also, when is the snapshot? I'll buy some Cinni if I still get a chance for a chance at more of it--if we can understand this a little better ;)
I think you are doing it completely wrong. Normal user issued-assets are the best thing for what you are trying to do. Generic "timeshares" will not have value proportional to the value of human time because human time is not fungible.1 hour in TimeShares won't have the value of 1 hour of human time.
This is BitShares X or ME except rebranded.
So you confirm that the real value is in the user-issued assets and "timeshares" could be called "MEshares" and it would work *exactly* the same way?Yes it would work the same way but it wouldn't make sense to call it something that doesn't have time in the name if its a time-based currency.
So you confirm that the real value is in the user-issued assets and "timeshares" could be called "MEshares" and it would work *exactly* the same way?Yes it would work the same way but it wouldn't make sense to call it something that doesn't have time in the name if its a time-based currency.
I like the name Ebit suggested TimeBank :)
I understand what you are saying though.
Also yeah a big part of the value would be the user-issued assets.
I am also adding an encrypted messaging system and I'm going to be working on a betting system that uses feeds.
So you confirm that the real value is in the user-issued assets and "timeshares" could be called "MEshares" and it would work *exactly* the same way?Yes it would work the same way but it wouldn't make sense to call it something that doesn't have time in the name if its a time-based currency.
I like the name Ebit suggested TimeBank :)
I understand what you are saying though.
Also yeah a big part of the value would be the user-issued assets.
I am also adding an encrypted messaging system and I'm going to be working on a betting system that uses feeds.
feels more like an altcoin
Hello BitShares community
I am making a DAC called TimeShares
TimeShares will have 187.5 million coins.
The distribution will be 80% to Cinni holders(150 million coins)
10% to PTS holders (18.75 million coins)
and 10% to AGS holders (18.75 million coins)
Users of TimeShares will be able to use units of time as the currency.
This detail will be made in the user interface rather than in the block chain itself. TimeShares will display a users balance as units of time and allow users to send units of time to each other.
In the time calculations in the user interface, each coin is calculated as 1 hour.
So if someone has a million TimeShares, his wallet balance is shown as 114 Years, 56 Days 39 Hours 59 Minutes 59 seconds.
When a user sends time, the user interface will convert the amount of time being sent back into actual coins before sending the transaction to the block chain.
I haven't decided on the trading code yet. I am open to suggestions. Maybe TIME, HOUR, TSHARE, or something similar.
Since I am building this project as a BitSharesX fork, it will have BitSharesX's features too.
I will be also adding encrypted messaging. And later on a betting system that uses feeds.
I would love to hear your input and suggestions to make this project better.
It is like from the movie with justin timberlake, where they have time on their arms. You could use chips to implant under the skin.
LOL! I am such a conspiracy buff, but this one seems harmless to me :)
If, however, they start taking people's lives with this DAC in the year 2084 I will be wholly against it!(http://i.imgur.com/mvd1uD0.jpg) (http://imgur.com/mvd1uD0)
You need to develop your idea pal.
I think he wanted to fork bitshares and have a value add (messages, centralized betting system) with hopes to steal market share from bitsharesx, hey why not, aslong as there are people willing to pay above 0 satoshi's the guy is making money since hes a bag holder for Cinni and automatically becomes a whale for this new fork. Its a social consensus premine, but not well thought out. I suggest to rebrand the DAC and become a DAC and not a bitsharesx fork.. use the toolkit for its purposes, dont try to steal the idea like a copy cat coin which has been proven to be a waste of engineering effort other than feeding the greedy, which is against the whole idea of bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.
I personally would stay clear away from something like this, unless it has a proper business proposal similar to http://followmyvote.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/The-Key-To-Unlocking-The-Black-Box.pdf
Holding 150(a large chunk) out of 187.5 million coins and forking btsx did it for me. Gluck to anyone to falls for this.
Even if he does change the project based on our suggestions, we know his intentions.
be honest: have you thought dogecoin would still be around .. last year?
... but not at the time of announcement I guess ...be honest: have you thought dogecoin would still be around .. last year?
Honestly - yes. Dogecoin (for all its crap - i appologise if i offend anyone) - has a huge community behind it. Thats what makes any coin live - its community
... but not at the time of announcement I guess ...be honest: have you thought dogecoin would still be around .. last year?
Honestly - yes. Dogecoin (for all its crap - i appologise if i offend anyone) - has a huge community behind it. Thats what makes any coin live - its community
I wasn't there .. live .. but even their community had to grow in time .. correct?
Snapshot date?I haven't decided on the snapshot date yet.
Snapshot date?I haven't decided on the snapshot date yet.
When I do I'll post an update about it.
Hello BitShares community
I am making a DAC called TimeShares
TimeShares will have 187.5 million coins.
The distribution will be 80% to Cinni holders(150 million coins)
10% to PTS holders (18.75 million coins)
and 10% to AGS holders (18.75 million coins)
Users of TimeShares will be able to use units of time as the currency.
This detail will be made in the user interface rather than in the block chain itself. TimeShares will display a users balance as units of time and allow users to send units of time to each other.
In the time calculations in the user interface, each coin is calculated as 1 hour.
So if someone has a million TimeShares, his wallet balance is shown as 114 Years, 56 Days 39 Hours 59 Minutes 59 seconds.
When a user sends time, the user interface will convert the amount of time being sent back into actual coins before sending the transaction to the block chain.
I haven't decided on the trading code yet. I am open to suggestions. Maybe TIME, HOUR, TSHARE, or something similar.
Since I am building this project as a BitSharesX fork, it will have BitSharesX's features too.
I will be also adding encrypted messaging. And later on a betting system that uses feeds.
I would love to hear your input and suggestions to make this project better.
Congratulations to the first ShitShares announcement !!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/tIKecVs.jpg)
Hello BitShares community
I am making a DAC called TimeShares
TimeShares will have 187.5 million coins.
The distribution will be 80% to Cinni holders(150 million coins)
10% to PTS holders (18.75 million coins)
and 10% to AGS holders (18.75 million coins)
Users of TimeShares will be able to use units of time as the currency.
This detail will be made in the user interface rather than in the block chain itself. TimeShares will display a users balance as units of time and allow users to send units of time to each other.
In the time calculations in the user interface, each coin is calculated as 1 hour.
So if someone has a million TimeShares, his wallet balance is shown as 114 Years, 56 Days 39 Hours 59 Minutes 59 seconds.
When a user sends time, the user interface will convert the amount of time being sent back into actual coins before sending the transaction to the block chain.
I haven't decided on the trading code yet. I am open to suggestions. Maybe TIME, HOUR, TSHARE, or something similar.
Since I am building this project as a BitSharesX fork, it will have BitSharesX's features too.
I will be also adding encrypted messaging. And later on a betting system that uses feeds.
I would love to hear your input and suggestions to make this project better.
Congratulations to the first ShitShares announcement !!!!
Not all of you guys like that project and I can understand it, no one like competition, everyone prefer monopoly and that's ok to me.
But let's give Cinni dev chance to develop his idea and finish his project than judge him.
PS.
By the way. Mind, I'm now the big fan of Bitshares and I believe that is much bigger thing than Bitcoin.
Why ? All because of Cinni dev and there might be more people like me in this forum thanks to him.
Hello BitShares community
I am making a DAC called TimeShares
TimeShares will have 187.5 million coins.
The distribution will be 80% to Cinni holders(150 million coins)
10% to PTS holders (18.75 million coins)
and 10% to AGS holders (18.75 million coins)
Users of TimeShares will be able to use units of time as the currency.
This detail will be made in the user interface rather than in the block chain itself. TimeShares will display a users balance as units of time and allow users to send units of time to each other.
In the time calculations in the user interface, each coin is calculated as 1 hour.
So if someone has a million TimeShares, his wallet balance is shown as 114 Years, 56 Days 39 Hours 59 Minutes 59 seconds.
When a user sends time, the user interface will convert the amount of time being sent back into actual coins before sending the transaction to the block chain.
I haven't decided on the trading code yet. I am open to suggestions. Maybe TIME, HOUR, TSHARE, or something similar.
Since I am building this project as a BitSharesX fork, it will have BitSharesX's features too.
I will be also adding encrypted messaging. And later on a betting system that uses feeds.
I would love to hear your input and suggestions to make this project better.
Congratulations to the first ShitShares announcement !!!!
Not all of you guys like that project and I can understand it, no one like competition, everyone prefer monopoly and that's ok to me.
But let's give Cinni dev chance to develop his idea and finish his project than judge him.
PS.
By the way. Mind, I'm now the big fan of Bitshares and I believe that is much bigger thing than Bitcoin.
Why ? All because of Cinni dev and there might be more people like me in this forum thanks to him.
I really think bitshares tech could make numerous coins easily worth bitcoin's marketcap. Imagine what would happen if a bunch of altcoin devs who actually want to innovate start using this toolkit to build onto their own ecosystems...
It is bitcoin infrastructure in a box..
Really excited to see this...even if it becomes a decentralized angies list...
Cinni DPOS snapshot on October 14, 2014, 5:00:00 PM UTC
Yes, you right.
Thank you.
I will delete it than ?
Yes, you right.
Thank you.
I will delete it than ?
Well, deleting it seems a bit extreme. :) Nothing wrong with BitShares people knowing that Cinni is implementing DPOS.
just added you to the snapshot gfx .. hope its o.k.: http......
Thats the info i have .. is it wrong? Can you link me to some official announcement?
cinnicoin can you please make us feel better about our stuck cinni on mintpal if there is any contact yet?Hello
we need them in our wallets by timebank snapshot date or let us know you wont snapshot until the problem has been resolved
I have tried to contact Mintpal through a support ticket. I haven't recieved a PM or email from them either.
I do see the CINNI/BTC trading pair online now https:....
But no way to withdraw.
I will make a reddit account to try contact them through reddit.
The snapshot on the 14th is for the DPOS Cinni. Like Cinni v2 built using the Bitshares toolkit. If i can get in contact with them, maybe i can convince them to participate in the snapshot. All it would take is for them to stop the deposits and withdrawals close to the snapshot date and send their Cinni to a new address that they make since they have alot of addresses, and then when the new Cinni wallet comes out they import their private key into it. Maybe they still haven't solved the issues they were facing so i am trying to get in contact with them to ask them and help them solve the problem.
Also don't worry if it isn't solved soon then i would reschedule the snapshot.
it's an empty and absurd rebranding of bitshares with no motivation (other than whaling shitshares). We should not endorse this, we will look silly.+1
How old are you, CinniDev ? (let me guess... 16 years old ?).
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How old are you, CinniDev ? (let me guess... 16 years old ?).
Why are some of you falling/pretending to be falling for this ?
Of course we can judge him and his "project" now : it's an empty and absurd rebranding of bitshares with no motivation (other than whaling shitshares). We should not endorse this, we will look silly.
How old are you, CinniDev ? (let me guess... 16 years old ?).
Why are some of you falling/pretending to be falling for this ?
Of course we can judge him and his "project" now : it's an empty and absurd rebranding of bitshares with no motivation (other than whaling shitshares). We should not endorse this, we will look silly.
Hey now people... CinniDev has been vetted to a certain degree already. He plans on holding a couple Dev Hangouts so you can speak with him and potentially even maybe give him ideas to create new DACs instead of a btsx "clone" with a couple extra features.
We are going to have many "coins" coming here over time....and many of those "coin devs" are going to want to later start building DACs on their own chains. If we play our cards right and the shareholders play an active part, there is no reason why we can't make honoring PTS/AGS an absolute necessity...
If we play these parts well...we can do it and ensure pump and dumpers are largely weeded out in the hangouts by the group of intellectuals who had the foresight to invest in PTS/AGS.
From an insider's point of view, the more shares are given to PTS, the better. From an outsider's point of view, having empty projects with no added value (CinniDev hasn't even tried to argue of what the added value of TimeBank could be...) just make us look silly.
Come on, we are in the adult business world, and it cannot work like that, we have to evaluate the value of things. Otherwise, we could also all join the dogeparty
From an insider's point of view, the more shares are given to PTS, the better. From an outsider's point of view, having empty projects with no added value (CinniDev hasn't even tried to argue of what the added value of TimeBank could be...) just make us look silly.
Come on, we are in the adult business world, and it cannot work like that, we have to evaluate the value of things. Otherwise, we could also all join the dogeparty
From an insider's point of view, the more shares are given to PTS, the better. From an outsider's point of view, having empty projects with no added value (CinniDev hasn't even tried to argue of what the added value of TimeBank could be...) just make us look silly.
Come on, we are in the adult business world, and it cannot work like that, we have to evaluate the value of things. Otherwise, we could also all join the dogeparty
I would prefer that they distribute to PTS/AGS holders, but in my opinion the bitshares community shouldn't give positive feedback and pretend such projects add value if they don't.
Would you actually prefer that they not distribute, for the sake of saving face in your so-called "adult business world?"
I would prefer that they distribute to PTS/AGS holders, but in my opinion the bitshares community shouldn't give positive feedback and pretend such projects add value if they don't.
Just to remind, for people in here who do not treat Cinni seriously.
25 of April 2014, CinniCoin generated over $1,000,000 in a 24 hour period, coming in as the 4th largest traded crypto coin in the world (at that time), just under DogeCoin. Currently, CinniCoin is #35 on coinmarketcap generating a market cap of over $600,000.
He might show us yet, we'll see.
Just to remind, for people in here who do not treat Cinni seriously.
25 of April 2014, CinniCoin generated over $1,000,000 in a 24 hour period, coming in as the 4th largest traded crypto coin in the world (at that time), just under DogeCoin. Currently, CinniCoin is #35 on coinmarketcap generating a market cap of over $600,000.
(http://i.imgur.com/3TVSQZs.png)
He might show us yet, we'll see.
Just to remind, for people in here who do not treat Cinni seriously.
25 of April 2014, CinniCoin generated over $1,000,000 in a 24 hour period, coming in as the 4th largest traded crypto coin in the world (at that time), just under DogeCoin. Currently, CinniCoin is #35 on coinmarketcap generating a market cap of over $600,000.
(http://i.imgur.com/3TVSQZs.png)
He might show us yet, we'll see.
#35 in coinmarketcap ? in which world ? 1-click verifiable false claims don't make me want to treat you more seriously.
And who are you ? Cinni's multi account, aka Cinni himself ? Just a bet, but that would not surprise me at all, you seem have the exact same lack of maturity. Or are you supposed to be Cinni's assistant, doing the hard public relation job while he is restlessly developping the future of the world ?
[...]
He has promised to get a mic and show up on mumble to answer people's questions. I would honestly like to see this happen when Dan is there so we can get Dan's comments.
[...]
And who are you ? Cinni's multi account, aka Cinni himself ?
And who are you ? Cinni's multi account, aka Cinni himself ?
Oh my god ! you got me now. Respect man you so clever :o
PS
Shame that Bitshare forum has also so intolerant and short-sighted members.
Fortunately that's very small minority.
And who are you ? Cinni's multi account, aka Cinni himself ?
Oh my god ! you got me now. Respect man you so clever :o
PS
Shame that Bitshare forum has also so intolerant and short-sighted members.
Fortunately that's very small minority.
Currently, CinniCoin is #35 on coinmarketcap generating a market cap of over $600,000.
But don't bother even if is true it does not mean anything like Testz pointed out
Until Cinnidev show us a solid plan and a business model for his DAC, there is no point on wasting Daniel time on talk about altcoins and vaporware. By the way I was there in that Dev Hangout with Cinnidev ... but guess what he did't have a mic.....
Here because I trust this forum. Bitshres Forum is like an island in the sea of scam to me.
fuzzy thank you for you comment appreciated.
It's kind of like going to Bruce Lee for his advice on how to start your own Dojo...it is not only a perfect way to do it right the first time, but an inspiration to look up to someone of such Giant Stature.
I must have missed something. Are these guys honoring the BitShares Social Consensus? No? With all due respect to Fuzz and all your wonderful, unsung efforts to improve this world, if Cinni is walking off with this technology without thanking this community, then screw 'em. There are times to be touchy-feely-friendly and cooperate with other coin communities. And there are times to stand up for this community and demand greater respect.
Two choices, Cinni:
(1) Drop 10%+ each on AGS and PTS holders, honoring the BitShares Social Consensus and respecting the developers/investors who have put in their time, money, and determination to help build this toolkit.
OR
(2) Float your coin as an asset on the BitShares X chain.
You do neither, then I don't care if you're using DPoS. You're not a part of BitShares and you don't deserve any help with your shitcoin from us. That's not me being selfish or nasty. That's me standing up for this community, which I think deserves real respect from you.
I must have missed something. Are these guys honoring the BitShares Social Consensus? No? With all due respect to Fuzz and all your wonderful, unsung efforts to improve this world, if Cinni is walking off with this technology without thanking this community, then screw 'em. There are times to be touchy-feely-friendly and cooperate with other coin communities. And there are times to stand up for this community and demand greater respect.
Two choices, Cinni:
(1) Drop 10%+ each on AGS and PTS holders, honoring the BitShares Social Consensus and respecting the developers/investors who have put in their time, money, and determination to help build this toolkit.
OR
(2) Float your coin as an asset on the BitShares X chain.
You do neither, then I don't care if you're using DPoS. You're not a part of BitShares and you don't deserve any help with your shitcoin from us. That's not me being selfish or nasty. That's me standing up for this community, which I think deserves real respect from you.
They are honoring the social consensus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg9202557#msg9202557
There's your answer. (caveat: he seems to have made a math error and his exact numbers need to be corrected to hit 10%/10%, but I think that was just oversight.)
To all the rest of the angry BitShares people who have been so hostile towards Cinni, please think about what you're doing! Whether Cinni turns out to be innovative or not, it is pioneering the process of forking BitShares and doing it exactly right: they're honoring the social consensus. If the very first consensus-honoring BitShares fork is turned away with tribalistic sneers and jeers and allegations of "scam" and "shitcoin," why do you think any other dev would waste his or her time honoring the social consensus?
Cinni is setting an important precedent for BitShares forks: Honor the Social Consensus.
BitShares community, Please do not set a precedent of hostility towards coins that freely offer to honor the social consensus!
I must have missed something. Are these guys honoring the BitShares Social Consensus? No? With all due respect to Fuzz and all your wonderful, unsung efforts to improve this world, if Cinni is walking off with this technology without thanking this community, then screw 'em. There are times to be touchy-feely-friendly and cooperate with other coin communities. And there are times to stand up for this community and demand greater respect.
Two choices, Cinni:
(1) Drop 10%+ each on AGS and PTS holders, honoring the BitShares Social Consensus and respecting the developers/investors who have put in their time, money, and determination to help build this toolkit.
OR
(2) Float your coin as an asset on the BitShares X chain.
You do neither, then I don't care if you're using DPoS. You're not a part of BitShares and you don't deserve any help with your shitcoin from us. That's not me being selfish or nasty. That's me standing up for this community, which I think deserves real respect from you.
They are honoring the social consensus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg9202557#msg9202557
There's your answer. (caveat: he seems to have made a math error and his exact numbers need to be corrected to hit 10%/10%, but I think that was just oversight.)
To all the rest of the angry BitShares people who have been so hostile towards Cinni, please think about what you're doing! Whether Cinni turns out to be innovative or not, it is pioneering the process of forking BitShares and doing it exactly right: they're honoring the social consensus. If the very first consensus-honoring BitShares fork is turned away with tribalistic sneers and jeers and allegations of "scam" and "shitcoin," why do you think any other dev would waste his or her time honoring the social consensus?
Cinni is setting an important precedent for BitShares forks: Honor the Social Consensus.
BitShares community, Please do not set a precedent of hostility towards coins that freely offer to honor the social consensus!
I must have missed something. Are these guys honoring the BitShares Social Consensus? No? With all due respect to Fuzz and all your wonderful, unsung efforts to improve this world, if Cinni is walking off with this technology without thanking this community, then screw 'em. There are times to be touchy-feely-friendly and cooperate with other coin communities. And there are times to stand up for this community and demand greater respect.
Two choices, Cinni:
(1) Drop 10%+ each on AGS and PTS holders, honoring the BitShares Social Consensus and respecting the developers/investors who have put in their time, money, and determination to help build this toolkit.
OR
(2) Float your coin as an asset on the BitShares X chain.
You do neither, then I don't care if you're using DPoS. You're not a part of BitShares and you don't deserve any help with your shitcoin from us. That's not me being selfish or nasty. That's me standing up for this community, which I think deserves real respect from you.
They are honoring the social consensus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg9202557#msg9202557
There's your answer. (caveat: he seems to have made a math error and his exact numbers need to be corrected to hit 10%/10%, but I think that was just oversight.)
To all the rest of the angry BitShares people who have been so hostile towards Cinni, please think about what you're doing! Whether Cinni turns out to be innovative or not, it is pioneering the process of forking BitShares and doing it exactly right: they're honoring the social consensus. If the very first consensus-honoring BitShares fork is turned away with tribalistic sneers and jeers and allegations of "scam" and "shitcoin," why do you think any other dev would waste his or her time honoring the social consensus?
Cinni is setting an important precedent for BitShares forks: Honor the Social Consensus.
BitShares community, Please do not set a precedent of hostility towards coins that freely offer to honor the social consensus!
If he had shown up with anything else than a shitcoin (well, shitshares), he would have been welcomed with fireworks. Here, he whales himself 80% of the shares of a bitshares X clone with no apparent value, and doesn't even try to justify his project. That doesn't deserve a strong support of the community, because it quite obviously has no value.
Quote1) When is the snapshot?This snapshot will be on November 1stQuote2) What coin is the snapshot for (e.g., Cinni 2.0 or TimeBank)This snapshot will be for Cinni 2.0Quote3) What are the coin totals for the new coin and snapshot ratios for Cinni 1.0 and PTS/AGS?Cinni's total coins about 15 million, 1.5 million for Bitshares PTS and 1.5 million for Bitshares AGS
so about 18 million total coins.Quote4) Which exchanges (if any) will be honoring the snapshot?Mintpal wants to participate in the snapshot.
I must have missed something. Are these guys honoring the BitShares Social Consensus? No? With all due respect to Fuzz and all your wonderful, unsung efforts to improve this world, if Cinni is walking off with this technology without thanking this community, then screw 'em. There are times to be touchy-feely-friendly and cooperate with other coin communities. And there are times to stand up for this community and demand greater respect.
Two choices, Cinni:
(1) Drop 10%+ each on AGS and PTS holders, honoring the BitShares Social Consensus and respecting the developers/investors who have put in their time, money, and determination to help build this toolkit.
OR
(2) Float your coin as an asset on the BitShares X chain.
You do neither, then I don't care if you're using DPoS. You're not a part of BitShares and you don't deserve any help with your shitcoin from us. That's not me being selfish or nasty. That's me standing up for this community, which I think deserves real respect from you.
They are honoring the social consensus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg9202557#msg9202557
There's your answer. (caveat: he seems to have made a math error and his exact numbers need to be corrected to hit 10%/10%, but I think that was just oversight.)
To all the rest of the angry BitShares people who have been so hostile towards Cinni, please think about what you're doing! Whether Cinni turns out to be innovative or not, it is pioneering the process of forking BitShares and doing it exactly right: they're honoring the social consensus. If the very first consensus-honoring BitShares fork is turned away with tribalistic sneers and jeers and allegations of "scam" and "shitcoin," why do you think any other dev would waste his or her time honoring the social consensus?
Cinni is setting an important precedent for BitShares forks: Honor the Social Consensus.
BitShares community, Please do not set a precedent of hostility towards coins that freely offer to honor the social consensus!
If he had shown up with anything else than a shitcoin (well, shitshares), he would have been welcomed with fireworks. Here, he whales himself 80% of the shares of a bitshares X clone with no apparent value, and doesn't even try to justify his project. That doesn't deserve a strong support of the community, because it quite obviously has no value.
I must have missed something. Are these guys honoring the BitShares Social Consensus? No? With all due respect to Fuzz and all your wonderful, unsung efforts to improve this world, if Cinni is walking off with this technology without thanking this community, then screw 'em. There are times to be touchy-feely-friendly and cooperate with other coin communities. And there are times to stand up for this community and demand greater respect.
Two choices, Cinni:
(1) Drop 10%+ each on AGS and PTS holders, honoring the BitShares Social Consensus and respecting the developers/investors who have put in their time, money, and determination to help build this toolkit.
OR
(2) Float your coin as an asset on the BitShares X chain.
You do neither, then I don't care if you're using DPoS. You're not a part of BitShares and you don't deserve any help with your shitcoin from us. That's not me being selfish or nasty. That's me standing up for this community, which I think deserves real respect from you.
They are honoring the social consensus: ----
There's your answer. (caveat: he seems to have made a math error and his exact numbers need to be corrected to hit 10%/10%, but I think that was just oversight.)
To all the rest of the angry BitShares people who have been so hostile towards Cinni, please think about what you're doing! Whether Cinni turns out to be innovative or not, it is pioneering the process of forking BitShares and doing it exactly right: they're honoring the social consensus. If the very first consensus-honoring BitShares fork is turned away with tribalistic sneers and jeers and allegations of "scam" and "shitcoin," why do you think any other dev would waste his or her time honoring the social consensus?
Cinni is setting an important precedent for BitShares forks: Honor the Social Consensus.
BitShares community, Please do not set a precedent of hostility towards coins that freely offer to honor the social consensus!
If he had shown up with anything else than a shitcoin (well, shitshares), he would have been welcomed with fireworks. Here, he whales himself 80% of the shares of a bitshares X clone with no apparent value, and doesn't even try to justify his project. That doesn't deserve a strong support of the community, because it quite obviously has no value.
Have whatever opinion you want but I can't possibly agree with you. First, you are throwing around numbers which are certainly inaccurate, possibly severely misleading. You say the cinni dev is getting 80% of the stake, but that is certainly false since he's not the only holder of cinnicoin. You're making accusations based only on numbers that you made up.
Second, how can you possibly know that the project has no value? At the very least, it will be another instance of DPOS on a differently-distributed DAC, which will be invaluable as a test bed. The more instances of DPOS, the more we learn about delegate management, voter participation, and possibly attacks - we need to learn all we can.
What justifies your scorn of bitshares clones? What do we possibly have to lose here?
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Saw price rising on Cinnicoin, is the snapshot announced?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cinni/
Hello
I have tried to contact Mintpal many times but no one replies.
Personally I have ~700k Cinni stuck there. Have them there because I was buying from myself to create volume for Cinni a few weeks ago also bought alot more coins than I previously had. Then Mintpal stopped withdrawals in v2 so I couldn't get them out. And now they sent them on a wrong chain so I tried to contact them to fix it but no one working there replied.
Also I will be be traveling for about a week and won't have internet.
Saw price rising on Cinnicoin, is the snapshot announced?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cinni/
No, I don't think so, for now Cinnicoin is officially dead due to Mintpal crush.
Cinnidev is going to wait for answer from scammer ;) for life :)
I would rather say it's himself :) trying to buy someHello
I have tried to contact Mintpal many times but no one replies.
Personally I have ~700k Cinni stuck there. Have them there because I was buying from myself to create volume for Cinni a few weeks ago also bought alot more coins than I previously had. Then Mintpal stopped withdrawals in v2 so I couldn't get them out. And now they sent them on a wrong chain so I tried to contact them to fix it but no one working there replied.
Also I will be be traveling for about a week and won't have internet.
hmm cinnicoin officially dead?No
We will get through this.
Now mintpal have problems, Cinni still alive? However, according to the latest reports on @mintpal (twitter) it still take quite a long time before everyone gets their money (Cinni) back (if they will succeed). We can wait for it, or continue with building Cinni.The snapshot will need to be rescheduled to when we receive our Cinni from Mintpal since almost half of Cinni is there or atleast until Mintpal releases a list of peoples Cinni balances and peoples withdrawal addresses.
If, after a few months everybody will get there money back and we have all this time waiting, then that is waste of time.
Cinni dev, can you tell us more about the current situation Mintpal VS Cinni VS Snapshot?