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Title: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 13, 2014, 11:10:51 am
Hey friends,

As some of you might have noticed already, I have a user-issued asset on the BitShares-X market called FREE:

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default (unlocked) >>> blockchain_get_asset FREE
{
  "id": 27,
  "symbol": "FREE",
  "name": "Free",
  "description": "Free as in beer",
  "public_data": {},
  "issuer_account_id": 284,
  "precision": 1,
  "registration_date": "20140719T200230",
  "last_update": "19700101T000000",
  "current_share_supply": 100000000000000,
  "maximum_share_supply": 100000000000000,
  "collected_fees": 0
}

100,000,000,000,000. FREE (all of them) have been issued and are lying around in my account. I don't need them. Neither will they be "useful" as they state "Free as in beer" ..

I'd like to ask the community about a "fancy" idea to get them out into the wild ..

Ready .. GO!
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: speedy on September 13, 2014, 11:57:24 am
How about give them out to current Bitcoin/Dogecoin holders? This would give them a "Free" way to get into BitsharesX and have some assets in it. Then maybe in the future they could start trading FREE against the shares.

If you think that's a good idea, I would love to have some ;)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: donkeypong on September 13, 2014, 02:43:42 pm
Sharedrop on NXT?
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: serejandmyself on September 13, 2014, 02:55:22 pm
As its not a very serious thing - id do a free giveaway on every crypto forum that allows it for anyone who wants it (might attract some users for us)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: jwiz168 on September 13, 2014, 03:03:13 pm
 +5%
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 13, 2014, 03:30:06 pm
I thought of something that can be 'scripted' so that I do not need to copy&paste addresses from giveaway threads or similar
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on September 13, 2014, 03:32:45 pm
Airdrop them to NXTer or Ripple would be interesting +5% , it's better than IOU, at least it cost some BTSX to issue. +5%
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: emski on September 13, 2014, 03:35:06 pm
Create a site where everyone can send 1 free to selected adress after completing captcha.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: tonyk on September 13, 2014, 03:36:42 pm
Create a site where everyone can send 1 free to selected adress after completing captcha.

...completing a quiz on the BTSX wiki...
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: speedy on September 13, 2014, 03:37:37 pm
If you do decide to airdrop to a list of all addresses in Bitcoin for example, would you have to pay a huge transaction fee for copying every address into your transaction outputs?
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: emski on September 13, 2014, 03:39:02 pm
Create a site where everyone can send 1 free to selected adress after completing captcha.

...completing a quiz on the BTSX wiki...

actually then it will not be free...
donate all to fsf
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: speedy on September 13, 2014, 03:40:42 pm
How about FREE to everyone who votes No in the Scotland referendum?  ;D
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 13, 2014, 03:50:10 pm
If you do decide to airdrop to a list of all addresses in Bitcoin for example, would you have to pay a huge transaction fee for copying every address into your transaction outputs?
That is the 'other' issue :-)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: tonyk on September 13, 2014, 03:53:40 pm
Create a site where everyone can send 1 free to selected adress after completing captcha.

...completing a quiz on the BTSX wiki...

actually then it will not be free...
donate all to fsf

Free token for free knowledge!
I have not count the zeros in the supply, yet; but I am pretty sure xeroc can give like 1000 Free's with the test, and 1 for just captcha.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 13, 2014, 04:17:23 pm
I could parse the blockchain and send 10 Free to everyone that has a registered account name ..
Or I start with a window of 24 hours .. and everyone within will get 100 Free .. !?

I like the idea of sending it for free knowledge/information ... khanacademy, fsf .. etc ..
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: santaclause102 on September 13, 2014, 04:28:00 pm
Create a site where everyone can send 1 free to selected adress after completing captcha.

...completing a quiz on the BTSX wiki...
that is a nice idea. Maybe also something for a faucet with real btsx / bitusd.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 13, 2014, 04:31:11 pm
Maybe we can come up with an idea that makes btsx viral ... and keeps the FREE in circulation ..
Maybe I can dump some in private keys and let the LasVegas people hand out some "'FREE' samples " :-)

I am gonna post Brian and fuzz to join this here ..
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: serejandmyself on September 13, 2014, 06:47:32 pm
I could parse the blockchain and send 10 Free to everyone that has a registered account name ..
Or I start with a window of 24 hours .. and everyone within will get 100 Free .. !?

I like the idea of sending it for free knowledge/information ... khanacademy, fsf .. etc ..

im still up for the idea of giving it to non bithsharers. Ill explain why - i mean quiz is a great idea, but as we know people are lazy (!) - so give it for free (as the name sugests) to anyone who wishes to take it.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 13, 2014, 07:05:30 pm
I just need to make sure that:
- not a single individum takes all of them
- I do not have tooooo much work .. because my spare-time is usually not 'free' as in beer
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: yellowecho on September 13, 2014, 07:34:07 pm
passing out FREE samples in Vegas sounds like a nice idea!


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Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: theoretical on September 16, 2014, 05:38:21 am

This got me thinking, and I figured out it would be technically possible to add support for private airdrops.

Here is the idea:  https://github.com/drltc/bitbond-proposal/blob/master/airdrop.md
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 16, 2014, 07:06:51 am

This got me thinking, and I figured out it would be technically possible to add support for private airdrops.

Here is the idea:  https://github.com/drltc/bitbond-proposal/blob/master/airdrop.md
I like the idea .. however I feel that "we won't make it" until vegas ...
I'd go for an air-drop on non-existing addresses and preload some say 1000 qr-codes  .. if there wasn't a multi transaction (I can remember there originally was, but not in the current verison) .. these would cost 500 btsx transaction fee for the FEE alone .. if we were to preload with 1 BTSX too then we had to fund some 1500 BTSX extra ..

still 1000 addresses are few compared to airdropping a whole altcoin :)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: Tuck Fheman on September 16, 2014, 07:08:05 am
Edit : errr ... I think I had what a "no" vote represented backwards.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: emski on September 16, 2014, 07:23:27 am

This got me thinking, and I figured out it would be technically possible to add support for private airdrops.

Here is the idea:  https://github.com/drltc/bitbond-proposal/blob/master/airdrop.md
I like the idea .. however I feel that "we won't make it" until vegas ...
I'd go for an air-drop on non-existing addresses and preload some say 1000 qr-codes  .. if there wasn't a multi transaction (I can remember there originally was, but not in the current verison) .. these would cost 500 btsx transaction fee for the FEE alone .. if we were to preload with 1 BTSX too then we had to fund some 1500 BTSX extra ..

still 1000 addresses are few compared to airdropping a whole altcoin :)

This could be funded by angel delegate. Currently there are no projects proposed for angel funding. This could be the first one. I'll post more details when I get home.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 16, 2014, 07:26:20 am
So I'll start some scripting this evening ... maybe I can figure out how to do multipoint transaction .. I am 100% sure that is already somewhere in the code ..
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: bitcoinerS on September 16, 2014, 09:36:12 am
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: merockstar on September 16, 2014, 11:45:12 am
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.

i would have some stars as a novelty, if I could.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 16, 2014, 11:56:25 am
Me too, I would love to see some STARs showing up in my balance.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: biophil on September 16, 2014, 02:44:31 pm
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.

I wouldn't mind a couple thousand STARs... or just a couple. Or just one.

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Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: madawc on September 16, 2014, 03:11:57 pm
I would have some stars if I could.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: luckybit on September 16, 2014, 03:45:14 pm
Hey friends,

As some of you might have noticed already, I have a user-issued asset on the BitShares-X market called FREE:

Code: [Select]
default (unlocked) >>> blockchain_get_asset FREE
{
  "id": 27,
  "symbol": "FREE",
  "name": "Free",
  "description": "Free as in beer",
  "public_data": {},
  "issuer_account_id": 284,
  "precision": 1,
  "registration_date": "20140719T200230",
  "last_update": "19700101T000000",
  "current_share_supply": 100000000000000,
  "maximum_share_supply": 100000000000000,
  "collected_fees": 0
}

100,000,000,000,000. FREE (all of them) have been issued and are lying around in my account. I don't need them. Neither will they be "useful" as they state "Free as in beer" ..

I'd like to ask the community about a "fancy" idea to get them out into the wild ..

Ready .. GO!

Give them a utility.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: emski on September 16, 2014, 04:23:56 pm
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.

Here is an idea:

Create a list with all known stars.
Set a few blank fields next to each star. Fields should be "Owner Name" and "LastTransactionID".
Allow anyone to claim a star from the list by updating the "Owner Name" field.
Then send him 1 STAR and update the LastTransactionID for that star.
As a result you'll have a list of stars, their owners, and a transaction linking everything to the blockchain.

There could be issues if one address holds more than 1 STAR as they would merge. Perhaps you could add memo when sending stars, stating which star you've sent. Tracking this might be a nightmare but seems possible (unless someone deliberately merges a lot of stars and splits them again without proper memos).
You could even create a script that parses the blockchain and updates the site with actual information. And if someone merges a few stars -> he gets a blackhole, effectively losing them.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 16, 2014, 04:34:38 pm
Give them a utility.
Such as? .. the description says "free as in beer" .. on purpose
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: davidpbrown on September 16, 2014, 04:50:10 pm
Give a load of FREE away with each new account in BTSX - or have a clear pointer to a faucet for those who want them, then let the user play with a Beer peg market. That might help overcome noobs anxiety with other markets.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 16, 2014, 05:18:09 pm
Give a load of FREE away with each new account in BTSX - or have a clear pointer to a faucet for those who want them, then let the user play with a Beer peg market. That might help overcome noobs anxiety with other markets.
nice idea .. a free beer market :)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 16, 2014, 05:19:06 pm
Code to automatically generate QR codes with private keys for addresses/pubkeys together with the file that contains both
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#!/bin/bash

rm addresses
touch addresses

for I in `seq 1 10 `
do
 ret=$(./bts_create_key)
 wif=$(echo "${ret}"| grep "WIF" | sed 's/^.*: //')
 add=$(echo "${ret}"| grep "bts" | sed 's/^.*: //')
 pub=$(echo "${ret}"| grep "pub" | sed 's/^.*: //')
 echo "${pub};${wif};${add}" >> addresses
 qrencode -o qr/${pub}.png -lL -tpng -8 ${wif}
done 
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: toast on September 16, 2014, 06:28:19 pm
I think giving away a worthless cryptoequity when the thing we are trying to market is "we finally found a way for crypto to be truly valuable" is counterproductive
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on September 16, 2014, 06:56:58 pm
Good point ...

We might still think about a paper gift with 1btsx on it .. wouldn't that be useful?
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: oco101 on September 16, 2014, 08:50:50 pm
"Freedom account" create a Bitshares X account called "Freedom. For each donation receive in this account you give back some Free.

When there is enough money, a minimum of 51 delegates need to sign in order to use money in this account. 

We will use the  FREE money on the  FREEDOM account  for (please fell free to add more suggestions)  :

1. we gonna buy a island in the Pacific where we will create  the a country called well .. Freedom. It will be the most free country in the world. Every user that ever donated to the free account will be a automatically a citizen and will be welcome to live there.
2.  to defend legally anyone in any country that's in trouble because he used blockchain technologies
3. make about .. 101 clones of bytemaster
4. throw Bitshares parties all over the world where the booze is ... free
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: serejandmyself on September 17, 2014, 06:00:45 am
"Freedom account" create a Bitshares X account called "Freedom. For each donation receive in this account you give back some Free.

When there is enough money, a minimum of 51 delegates need to sign in order to use money in this account. 

We will use the  FREE money on the  FREEDOM account  for (please fell free to add more suggestions)  :

1. we gonna buy a island in the Pacific where we will create  the a country called well .. Freedom. It will be the most free country in the world. Every user that ever donated to the free account will be a automatically a citizen and will be welcome to live there.
2.  to defend legally anyone in any country that's in trouble because he used blockchain technologies
3. make about .. 101 clones of bytemaster
4. throw Bitshares parties all over the world where the booze is ... free

can we try out 1 and 4 prior to doinf them?  :)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: Shentist on September 17, 2014, 06:21:40 am
without purpose it is worthless

- maybe we will find a purpose in the future for it and then you can use it

in the meantime just hold it.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: AJ on September 17, 2014, 10:11:25 am
I'm really liking this idea for use if it was redeemed for something.

 +5% for the idea
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: erick on September 17, 2014, 10:19:54 am
Ill take a few million lmao  +5%
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: merockstar on September 17, 2014, 10:45:37 am
we could set up a giant faucet, and drain it over the next month.

people who hold free could use it as an invite to the big party 5 five years from now at liondani's crib (that he doesn't know about yet).
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: AJ on September 17, 2014, 08:34:51 pm
we could set up a giant faucet, and drain it over the next month.

people who hold free could use it as an invite to the big party 5 five years from now at liondani's crib (that he doesn't know about yet).

we need a more secret name for that :)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: Method-X on September 17, 2014, 08:39:37 pm
I think giving away a worthless cryptoequity when the thing we are trying to market is "we finally found a way for crypto to be truly valuable" is counterproductive

These could easily be play tokens to mess around with trading. I see value in that.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: cryptillionaire on September 17, 2014, 09:10:49 pm
How about FREE to everyone who votes No in the Scotland referendum?  ;D
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Hah! Jog on mate, i'm voting yes tommorow! ;P

On a more serious note, how did the 'Free' bitassets come into existance? Are user created bitassets a thing that anyone can make?
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: donkeypong on September 17, 2014, 10:15:41 pm
 Nothing in these markets is going to be settled until after that Scotland vote! :)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 17, 2014, 11:16:53 pm
Instead of buying an island, let's build a seastead. That's a man made swimming island. The good thing is, that we could be outside of nations borders. Also Google plans some crazy ships I read and we cannot deny the zeitgeist and must also set sails.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: donkeypong on September 18, 2014, 06:28:47 am
I read a novel some years ago where some people start filling in the ocean over a seamount or something. They keep adding dirt/rocks/junk until it becomes an island. Then they go to the United Nations (where no one claiming to be a 'country' is ever excluded), start signing onto treaties, and over time they build up enough favors from other countries that they get some of these to officially recognize them as a country.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: tonyk on September 18, 2014, 06:34:01 am
I read a novel some years ago where some people start filling in the ocean over a seamount or something. They keep adding dirt/rocks/junk until it becomes an island. Then they go to the United Nations (where no one claiming to be a 'country' is ever excluded), start signing onto treaties, and over time they build up enough favors from other countries that they get some of these to officially recognize them as a country.

That, or you can take the more radical approach: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8881.msg115238#msg115238
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: donkeypong on September 18, 2014, 06:57:04 am
You'll be a benevolent dictator, I trust.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: tonyk on September 18, 2014, 07:12:01 am
You'll be a benevolent dictator, I trust.

I will actually propose triumvirate,  (or any small prime number) of people holding the executive poweres.  Benevolent or not, it is too much trust in one man's hands, imho.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 18, 2014, 09:43:17 am
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.

I just received them! So happy! THX!
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: speedy on September 19, 2014, 07:35:08 am
How about FREE to everyone who votes No in the Scotland referendum?  ;D
Hah! Jog on mate, i'm voting yes tommorow! ;P

On a more serious note, how did the 'Free' bitassets come into existance? Are user created bitassets a thing that anyone can make?

Ah hard luck mate - looks like we are together for another 300 years :)

Could I get some stars? +5%
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: oco101 on October 04, 2014, 04:41:38 pm
Here an idea. FREE should be distributed to member of the community that help the development of Bithsares . I.e people donating for a project like this one https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9651.msg125736#msg125736  they will get FREE proportional to their contribution.
In time holder of FREE will be respected and trusted members of the community, if you part of the FREE exclusive club you'll need to have a certain amount of FREE :)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: House on October 05, 2014, 04:26:17 am
I am wanting to launch a crypto or share program for 'We The People' where everyone is allocated funds for free to trade their wares and services. I have fallen in love with the blockchain and see it as a means to realize complete decentralised governance.
'FREE' could be a way to achieve this as 100 trillion can cover the entire population.
I don't necessarily wish to spearhead this campaign as I have 0% skills but 100% commitment.
Is this asking too much? Is there something I can do to bring this to fruition? :-\

Thanks in advance from a potentially naive noob
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on October 07, 2014, 05:41:56 pm
Here an idea. FREE should be distributed to member of the community that help the development of Bithsares . I.e people donating for a project like this one https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9651.msg125736#msg125736  they will get FREE proportional to their contribution.
In time holder of FREE will be respected and trusted members of the community, if you part of the FREE exclusive club you'll need to have a certain amount of FREE :)
nice idea .. but currently there is no 'easy' way to proof ownership of any asset on the blockchain
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on October 07, 2014, 05:44:01 pm
I am wanting to launch a crypto or share program for 'We The People' where everyone is allocated funds for free to trade their wares and services. I have fallen in love with the blockchain and see it as a means to realize complete decentralised governance.
'FREE' could be a way to achieve this as 100 trillion can cover the entire population.
I don't necessarily wish to spearhead this campaign as I have 0% skills but 100% commitment.
Is this asking too much? Is there something I can do to bring this to fruition? :-\
Sounds nice, but don't see what they want to do with FREEs then .. FREEs really are monopoly money .. and will most certainly ever be!

Quote
Thanks in advance from a potentially naive noob
We all started as noobs .. especially me 8)
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: kokojie on October 07, 2014, 07:39:34 pm
Well send me some FREE or STAR to play with, I have nothing except BTSX in my account. Send to id "koko". Thanks.
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: xeroc on October 07, 2014, 07:45:37 pm
done
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: jae208 on October 19, 2014, 10:51:54 am
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.


I want some STARs and FREES
send them to Bitx :)
thanks
Title: Re: 100,000,000,000,000. FREE
Post by: bluebit on October 29, 2014, 09:12:22 pm
I have 100 billion STARs available! :) Who wants some? They are free for the asking.

I want some stars :)