Quote from: BTS熊 on May 22, 2014, 06:39:10 pm

一听名字就知道怎么回事的问题你们居然能搞到这么复杂

目前能慢慢理解开始接受的都是天天逛论坛，在社区跟踪进度的PTSer和AGSer，偶尔才来社区逛的都不知众亲所云，云里雾里的

有那么一批PTSer和AGSer，是听从别人的建议（比如被我忽悠的 ）持有，但自己并不主动了解关心项目的进度，项目有重大情况或社区有重大变动我得负责任的一一告知，很多人只是看PTS的价格偶尔问下这个项目的进展（更多的时候是疑惑：你说这个项目怎么怎么有前途，价格怎么跌成这样了，这时我得一顿解释，我跟踪进度我对项目有信心，他们未必有），他们就是那群简单的“不明真相”的PTS小白，然而你不能忽视这样的小白，他们就是这样简单的参与，所以不要搞得太复杂，大多数人乐于接受简单的规则……

I have changed the spec for DPOS to select the delegate randomly rather than sequentially to prevent an attack whereby a delegate could tweak their vote so they are always scheduled to be the next delegate.

The random number selection is also useful for lotto dac.

Just clone the new PTS2, or whatever the PTS successor with DPOS will be called, and then air drop the AGS-linked coin to anyone with the keys to an AGS donor address. If someone wants to dump (or needs the money), they dump, for whatever the market will pay. If someone else wants to get in on the DACs, they can buy up whatever is being sold. Then use that new coin for all future DAC snapshots of AGS.

Quote from: sudo on May 21, 2014, 03:13:29 pm

Assuming that  someone stole your PTS wallet.dat  with AGS donation record
wallet.dat has password  but not strong enough。it can be cracked sooner or later。

PTS you can transfer to a totaly new address or new wallet at any time or regularly。make it more safe。

But  AGS, you must race with the thief when the new DACs release。Who wins when he import the wall.dat &transfer the coin to another address。
Again & Again  forever……

Unfortunately making AGS liquid would not fix those problems in any way, actually it would make pawning off stolen AGS a lot easier, as well as make it easier to scam people out of their AGS-shares.

So better make a secure paper copy of your donation key and do not use a hot wallet at all. (Making a secure paper copy means writing it down on paper preferably by hand, not printing it via wifi from an online windows pc)

1. I agree DPOS is necessary for PTS, why can't you just hard fork PTS and keep using the PTS name instead of PTS2? Leaving both PTS and PTS2 in the market is like leaving one of your child in the wild wide and die. Just announce a client hard fork and do the mapping. PTS miner will disappear and everyone upgrade their client.

2. Giving the rest PTS to marketing??? LOL. Let's look what the marketing team has done with AGS fund (below are what I found with a quick glance of the spending spreadsheet).

• They sell PTS in market value and pay the salary to Brian, Emily (who is she), and all things.
  ref: From April 1st https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydElLdUpwSERlY3luVkZNZnoxRm5md3c&usp=sharing#gid=0
  At least I know that loyal miners won't sell that quick, does the I3 has the authority to sell the BTC and PTS into $?
• Giving 5.5BTC+160PTS to super3 and check out what http://invictus.io looks like now
• Spent $14000+$7000+$1478=$22478 on the website development, and we are waiting for the version 6 of the bitshares.org. Why it ends up that BM doing all the job everytime? Are you planning to have version 60 of the website? And also using the PTS doing this kind of thing?
• What kind of marketing are you doing in St. Martin Can I join the team?
  ref: Line 141 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydG1USVlZS2U3Q1F4RTJrM19TQXFTWHc&usp=sharing#gid=0

To me, all of these spending is not clear. Look what mastercoin foundation is doing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtCyUJvk_IyNdGpVcnpBN2tOczFmbVRnck5TWjZuRFE&usp=sharing#gid=0

After 5 months marketing, BTS still remain unknown to lots of BTCers. I3 need to think of the problem instead of taking every cent from community. PTS used to be the top 5 in marketcap at the end of last year and there were no marketing. After DPOS PTS, GIVE the remaining PTS to DEVELOPERS!!! Good product is the best marketing. And we really should change the AGS spending to bounty based instead of salary based (except developers). What I see is 5 core dev working really hard day and night, with another 20 ppl sucking AGS money for doing little thing.