Cob, I see you're thinking about our Houston discussion
For others you can catch up on some stuff here http://stableproductivemoney.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/properties-of-token-money/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyWfUqEyIZc
Without reiterating everything, bitAssets are capable of tracking the relative value of a data feed. The best data feed would be internal to the DAC so no data manipulation can happen. The most stable crypto assets to back up and collateralize bitAssets would be IOUs which represent something real which is redeemable. IOUs are better capable to create a much more stable bitAsset because people trade the undelrying value of the IOU rather than a commodity-token such as BTS or BTC. The problem with IOUs is of course that both collataralizing tokens on both ends of the bitAsset can completely default, effectively creating inflation for the bitAsset in question.
Everybody is capable of providing value to the market through production (Riegel's idea: "We're all fountains of wealth") by extending our own credit and backing it up with future production at the future's exchange rate. You effectively get a dual currency system, exactly how money is noted in a ledger anyway: a Debit currency and a Credit currency. Those IOUs would be redeemable for your productive capacity.
Great read. I followed your posts after your comment about game theory results of credit money vs. commodity money from your Moonstone wallet thread.
Yes. Money does not create wealth. We all create wealth through our productive capacity.
By using your're IOU as the collateral for one side of the bitAsset you can create somebody else's IOU's as collateral for the bitAsset's other side. This way you create a bitAsset without practical counterparty risk which everybody accepts at par and which can be used for universal pricing and path finding across the value network (very similar to Ripple's XRP being the path-finding mechanism between gateways, but in this case it's a stable bitAsset with flexible money supply rather than a commodity token).
I am a follower of the Ripple/Stellar community precisely for the credit money characteristics (social credit) and LETS (local exchange trading system). The Ripple/Stellar system allows user generated IOUs in the same way you describe and XRP/STR is representative of the potentially stable 'bitAsset' intermediary without counterparty risk unless I'm missing something. FYI: I'm not a fan of the distribution mechanism of XRP, but am a fan of the tech. Stellar has a much better distribution mechanism, but not entirely sold on the organizational structure. Much prefer a DPOS/DAC model rather than a for-profit or non-profit corporation for issuing XRPs/STRs. I would have probably given away 90% of the coins for free and kept 10% + inflation for development.
Could this somehow fit in with the BitShares UIA model or do you need a separate bitCredit system?
Furthermore the counterparty collateralizing your IOU takes on risk but also reaps the benefits by having more buying power with you. So your collateralizers, or in other words -lenders- would in most cases be your immediate supply-chain (or market makers, i.e. Credit Rating Agency). Your "credit limit" would be equal to the total demand for your IOU (or in other words total demand for your future production), however the more IOUs you issue the more interest your supply chain will require from you for their larger risk. Hence you get a very liquid and true market-based credit market and access to cash flow.
The perfect bitAsset would be, as stated above, and internal price feed. If a lot of producers use this IOU system (as a kickstaerter it needs a minimum viable market, or in other words minimum viable liquidity) then you can use the point where the average total supply and demand curve of all IOUs in circulation meet as the univeral pathfinding point. In theory that point would be by definition perfectly stable as it mathematically represents the abstraction of all supply and demand of all relative values in the system. As such the -price- of money (i.e. Unit of Account) is not just decoupled from money itself as with bitAssets, it goes much further than that, it becomes a *universal non-cumulative* value unit.
The IOUs would be based on a specific delivery of XYZ good or service correct? This is the same model for the DigitalCoin & Ripple system. Your personal trust network or supply chain can better evaluate your 'credit rating'. The supply and demand of the specific IOUs as well as the risk is decentralized/distributed. The major failure in modern banking is that bad debt is centralized and effectively collectivized by government bailouts, guarantees, and money printing. Hence collective public debt grows to unmanageable levels beyond the level that would represent productive credits, and eventually can lead to currency collapse.
BTW after many years of study, my revelations of modern money mechanics via Austrian economics & money-as-debt literature were confirmed with the following Bank of England quarterly reports:
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q101.pdfhttp://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q1prereleasemoneycreation.pdfAfter so many years of secrecy.... the BofE just spilled the beans on how modern banking works, and most economic professors don't understand this and it's not taught in most academic institutions. Essentially banks create money out of thin air via lending. They do not practice fractional reserve banking in the way most people think. Banks do not lend their reserves nor is there any money multiplier effect. All they do is create bank notes that represent the credit of people just as you described above with IOUs. However credit evaluation & credit money creation is not distributed and favors large financial institutions & governments & corporations and overtime can lead to systemic currency collapse when the default risk of the entire system becomes too high. It seems one efficiency with modern banking is that they don't have to deal with multiple IOUs. Everyone's IOUs are treated as equal and so no one has to deal with IOUs of fish vs IOUs of getting a hair cut. They all use the same bank notes. That may be why fiat 'credit money' can seem relatively stable and is similarly why a liquid credit money like US Federal Reserve notes may tend towards the stability of a *universal non-cumulative* value unit you described. However according to Mises regression theorem and subjective theory of value it seems you need a starting point of value whether it's a 'dollar' in 'grains' of silver or 'ozs' of gold. The US Federal Reserve note initially had gold backing as a starting reference point so without that I don't believe you ever could have a relevant unit of account.
Fascinatingly this special and unique bitAsset (I'm calling it Perpetual Coin (PC) for now) by definition has no counterparty risk as a whole, but statistically a certain percentage of it's underlying IOUs will default on both ends of the contract, as such it is as inflationary as the total failure rate of both ends of the bitAsset of the producers. However, because this is a DAC we can make sure that the price feed of the PC always matches the internal price point by including demurrage equal to this failure rate, effectively we're introducing entropy into the system which always matches the entropy of the underlying value market, something which never existed before. This way we stabilized PC as a Unit of Acocunt as a point in time, but not as a store of value. That's the next step.
Great stuff! Yes. Essentially the default risk of the entire system can be used as a price feed to stabilize the unit of account.
Due to demurrage PC holders who want to store their value will want to invest their PC as a loan to above average producers. They in tern give you their PC IOUs for a future date, in which case you have again counterparty risk which at average should be smaller or equal to the demurrage/entropy rate of the PC as all these factors are in theory counter-cyclical and self-stabilizing to one another.
As such we have effectively splt money into its 3 core functions:
- Medium of Exchange - Producer IOU
- Unit of Account - Perpetual Coin (bitAsset)
- Store of Value - P2P Credit Perpetual Coin
I've got to write this down more clearly somewhere.
Again great read. I like how you summarized the core functions. I think a lot of it is consistent with social credit/LETs systems, but I like the added dimension of using a DAC to account for demurrage. Have you had further thoughts on this? I've really been interested in distributed social credit money systems as well.