Has anyone talked about where Bitshares XT will be trading when it first gets released? As in, is invictus talking with any of the exchanges?

Probably will hit the forums first.

Ok so let me see if I got this:

If I am an early PTS holder, I get a stake in all early/experimental bitshares chains. Since I have Bitshares X it means I will get stake in Bitshares XT, XI, XV, XC. All of these Bitshares X lines are based on february 28th snapshot.

If I buy AGS now. I will not get shares in any of these, and would need to buy Bitshares XT. You are also saying that subsequent DACs are based on BitShares XT?

So then, why would one buy AGS now?

Hi,
 Is there a timeline somewhere that shows what stakes PTS holders have already?

Let's say I was holding PTS since very early on. What DACs do I have a stake in now? It's hard to keep track, and don't know if there is one place for this? I know I may have memory coin? bitshares xts, or xt, or etc? How can I easily find this out?

I am still confused about what happens after February 28th. So now buying PTS is not worth anything. But AGS stays around and those now get converted to Bitshares XT? Is it mentioned somewhere what the ratios on that look like? Sorry if I missed it somewhere!

As you purchase Bitshares XT does that automatically turn into equivalent purchases of XI, XV, and XC? What happens when you purchase Bitshare XT after XI and XV have already been released?

If XI, XV, and XC  do not honor XT (that was a mouthful ). I feel like having all these chains out there implementing different features of Bitshares x would lower the value of the original Bitshares X (which my understanding is Bitshares XT).

If XI, XV, and XC  DO honor XT. the assumption is we are deploying XI, XV, and XC to test out features we want to incorporate back into XT, which will probably be called something else? Bitshares XT2? Wouldn't XI, XV, and XC serve better not to be mentioned as somewhat official products (with formal titles) as you have in the original post? I would keep them more as separate, keep the focus on Bitshares X and say how Bitshares X - Version 0 (which is really XT) will have XYZ features, and that Bitshares X - Version 0.5 will have XYZ feature (which is implemented through our alternate test chain).

Apologies if I miss some fundamental understanding of this.

Does this mean that potentially after the February 28th date, PTS/AGS will go down considerably, as buying them on a exchange is worthless because the snapshot was already taken?

So holders will just have to wait till they get their money back (and then some) when their stake in BitShares and other DACs come to fruition?

Whats the plans for initially purchasing bitshares? Where do you buy them from?

Will the PTS/BTS blockchain just die because minings etc is worthless?
Is there some type of tool folks can use to make sure they are part of the snapshot?

Dan,
 To your point, this is not a dictatorship, so why if YOU are the only one here who does not feel their should be a daily status update. Then there should not be one. Isn't that a dictatorship?

I want to express to you that Invictus is unfortunately not in a good position and does not have a good track record. Remember that the current value and worth is based on investors and their speculation. That speculation is based on what we see, hear, and feel about the companies ability to deliver. I want to list out for you the current status of Invictus, and I do this not to take away from your success. But I do this to make you realize that since you are not in a good position, you should go ABOVE and BEYOND in terms of meeting the requests of the stakeholders in your company. I want you to see the perspective from an early adopter and protoshares investor:

• Invictus first release was Protoshares. The innovation that was introduced was the Proof-Of-Work algorithm that was supposed to be hardened or resistant based on memory bus speeds. However this was not successful.
• Protoshares was also not the most ideal form of crowd-funding for the company so they confused the matter and hurt early adopters  of Protoshares by introducing AngelShares. Regardless of how the math works out, introducing another form of investment seed into the company confused/goes back on the social contract.
• Invictus planned to release keyhotee the first product on NYE 2013. That was not a success. The next status and estimate was late January. That was not a success. Now you are saying end of february, without a hard committal date.
• Invictus plans on releasing bitshares its real first claim to fame, and one of the first originators of distributed exchange concept. Here we have no real idea where they are in development, and what the release date is. Meanwhile we have other big ventures competing in the space WITH a release date

So I bring all this up, because I ask you. As a investor. How am I supposed to speculate on the given success of Invictus. Given that now i'm still interested, come on your website to share my frustration, and get attacked as a conspirator and get abrasive responses.

You guys should really hire someone to handle PR/Customer Relations.

(I apologize if any of my facts were incorrect, and welcome factual evidence based corrections)

Finally you guys are asking to be a DAC or corporation, so you need to start acting like it. YOu have millions of dollars in investor funds. This isn't a fun open-source side project.

Furthermore, Dan you have likened yourself and organization to Apple, or what Apple has done. And you call Invictus a corporation. Imagine if Apple had the same debacle with a release of one of their flagship products.

No one is asking you to get things in early or fast or whatever. You guys chose New Years Eve. What i'm asking you is whatever time you need take it. But you need to be consistent and professional, and the way you are running the keyhotee release (your first product) is far from it...

I use to be a Invictus investor and very bullish on the PTS shares, but I recently pulled out with the steep decline in PTS price coupled with the confusion around AngelShares and not knowing which I should be holding on to. I am still very interested in seeing you succeed and and be first to deploy but honestly there is a lot more competition from Nxt, MasterCoin, Ethereum.

Its not exactly the thread to discuss this, but it's coming out with the frustration on failing to deliver on Keyhotee, and as I check back what I am seeing.

There is still issues with Keyhotee that I find unacceptable if Invictus wants to be competitive, reputable organization:

• Dan/Bytemaster mentioned they aim for daily status updates 7 days ago. They missed 6 out of 7 of those daily status updates.
  
• What about the Keyhotee Windows build?
• The download for alpha keyhotee is not working. I clicked the .zip file on the first page of this thread and it goes to 404 Error not found...

Can you please fix these and be more transparent in communication, and delivery. Thanks.