Quote from: rgcrypto on November 20, 2015, 07:46:34 PM
Welcome to our community. :)

I don't know much about NXT but I've heard they are a great group of innovators.

#btstip "sepehr"  1 HIGHFIVE

Thanks dud!
What is this? something to reward forum members or more?

Quote from: xeroc on November 16, 2015, 09:49:19 AM

Quote from: kenCode on November 16, 2015, 09:26:34 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 16, 2015, 09:20:35 AM

Quote from: xeroc on November 16, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
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BTW, privatized bitassets CAN use any other asset as collateral!!
...
Then you should wait until PRIVATIZED bitassets are more easy to use!

Thanks for your reply.
I don't care about easy to use!
I'm technical and have technical staff also to help.
So, let me know more about PRIVATIZED bitassets. What is that? Are you mean simply User Issued Assets or is it something different?

Thanks,
Sepehr

I'm starting to like the privatization better myself. I see great potential in the UIAs that OpenLedger have created so far like:
OPENBTC
OPENMUSE
OPENLTC
OPENUSD
OPENCNY

how about you hook up with Ronny @ccedk so he can sell your IRR asset, pegged to its value, as:
OPENIRR

Just another (easier) route you could take... :)

@kenCode: those are NOT privatized bitassets.

@sepehr: you can read more about those in the whitepaper from docs.bitshares.eu
essentially, they are market pegged asset where the issue can customize some parameters.
For instance:
* price feed providers
* collateral asset
* maintenance collateral ratio
* disable/enable global settlements
* margin call triggers
etc. ..

I would recommend to go through the "create_asset" call in bitshares.org/doxygen

Cheers

Good point we are standing at now! :D
I need some days to read through these, Thanks a lot xeroc.

Quote from: kenCode on November 16, 2015, 09:26:34 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 16, 2015, 09:20:35 AM

Quote from: xeroc on November 16, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
...
BTW, privatized bitassets CAN use any other asset as collateral!!
...
Then you should wait until PRIVATIZED bitassets are more easy to use!

Thanks for your reply.
I don't care about easy to use!
I'm technical and have technical staff also to help.
So, let me know more about PRIVATIZED bitassets. What is that? Are you mean simply User Issued Assets or is it something different?

Thanks,
Sepehr

I'm starting to like the privatization better myself. I see great potential in the UIAs that OpenLedger have created so far like:
OPENBTC
OPENMUSE
OPENLTC
OPENUSD
OPENCNY

how about you hook up with Ronny @ccedk so he can sell your IRR asset, pegged to its value, as:
OPENIRR

Just another (easier) route you could take... :)

Thanks kenCode,
Good Idea and I already wrote an email to Ronny about this before.
Maybe it's good to write to him from his forum account also.

Quote from: xeroc on November 16, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
...
BTW, privatized bitassets CAN use any other asset as collateral!!
...
Then you should wait until PRIVATIZED bitassets are more easy to use!

Thanks for your reply.
I don't care about easy to use!
I'm technical and have technical staff also to help.
So, let me know more about PRIVATIZED bitassets. What is that? Are you mean simply User Issued Assets or is it something different?

Thanks,
Sepehr

Quote from: xeroc on November 15, 2015, 04:30:54 PM

Quote from: sepehr on November 15, 2015, 09:58:04 AM
I'm ready to create BitIRR and pay 200k BTs for it.
1- How many BitIRR will be created? Do I should decide for that?
2- Do I should create it through CLI?
3- Is that all of this Asset at the beginning belong to account created it?
4- How can I  or any other Iranian entity can be a gateway for this asset?
5- How many witnesses should convince to publish prices? 51?

1) None will be created! Please read the whitepaper at docs.bitshares.eu/
2) bitassets can currently only be created through CLI wallet
3) BITassets belong to the network .. only "privatized" bitassets belong to
   someone else
4) That's mostly a legal and liquidity issue. You should definitely have some
   technician that has alot of knowledge about the bts blockchain.
5) Not, sure .. but I think you need at least 51%(!) .. so just a few.

Quote from: sepehr on November 15, 2015, 02:17:57 PM
6. Is it required for BitIRR to have price  updates only in BTS?
7. Is it possible to have it in BTC or USD or something else?
8. Or is it possible that we have absolutely no price updates? Only gateways act and deposit and withdraw IRR in 1:1 basis
9. How is the bitIRR asset created
10. how is it support by comunity
11. how is it deposit and withdraw by gateways.

6) Yes. Required!
7) you can trade it against USD or BTC .. your choice, but you need to borrow it
   from the network using BTS! (* this is only true for MPA, not for privatized
   bitassets)
8) Not possible. You are asking for an "I owe you" (IOU)
9) It's a special command and no actual documentation is really available
   besides the code comments.
10) bitUSD is well supported .. what do you mean?
11) Via BitShares account

Replies to items 5, 6 & 7 convinced me to check Ethereum!
Why is it required for a pegged asset to only be priced with BTS? Why not BTC?
I even convinced that as the pegged asset supported by the community it should be confirmed by 51 Authority, it's hard but ok, I accept it.
But why only in BTS? I cannot understand any reason other the vision to grow BTS price and that's not my target! ;)

Is it required for BitIRR to have price  updates only in BTS?
Is it possible to have it in BTC or USD or something else?
Or is it possible that we have absolutely no price updates? Only gateways act and deposit and withdraw IRR in 1:1 basis

Thanks,
Sepehr

Quote from: kenCode on November 15, 2015, 09:45:10 AM

Quote from: xeroc on November 15, 2015, 08:32:00 AM
You need to
1) create a market pegged asset (bitasset) --- very expensive right now
2) convince the witnesses to publish prices
I can certainly add IRR to my price feed script .. but will do only AFTER the asset has been created (which, is rather expensive right now, 200k BTS for Lifetime members)

200k BTS (~660€) is a lot of money, but starting the market-pegged cryptocurrency for Iran is a HUGE deal.

I see a LOT of potential for bitIRR, so if @sepehr needs the financial assistance and is serious about this, then I am willing to loan 10,000 BTS towards its creation if I can get paid back in a few months (no profit needed). Maybe the rest of the community here would be willing to pitch in some BTS as well??

Thanks for your generous offer dear @kenCode , I value it as a good friendship between us. And will let you know if I seriously decided to do so. FYI, I'm still not clear about how exactly BitIRR will work. How is the asset created how is it support by comunity and how is it deposit and withdraw by gateways. once I could be clear enough, I think 660€ is not so big deal to take action of it.

Quote from: xeroc on November 15, 2015, 08:32:00 AM
You need to
1) create a market pegged asset (bitasset) --- very expensive right now
2) convince the witnesses to publish prices

I can certainly add IRR to my price feed script .. but will do only AFTER the asset has been created (which, is rather expensive right now, 200k BTS for Lifetime members)

Thanks a lo @xeroc for your reply.
I'm ready to create BitIRR and pay 200k BTs for it.

But sorry to ask dumb questions!

1- How many BitIRR will be created? Do I should decide for that?
2- Do I should create it through CLI?
3- Is that all of this Asset at the beginning belong to account created it?
4- How can I  or any other Iranian entity can be a gateway for this asset?
5- How many witnesses should convince to publish prices? 51?

Thanks a lot,
Sepehr

Quote from: DestBest on November 14, 2015, 03:00:07 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want to issue a pegged asset to fiat, My local country fiat(IRR), and I understood that I need to attract confirmation from 51+ of important guys from community.
By the way if that is the way I'm ready to do that.

You can have IRR/BTS pair on BitShares by next week if there is enough demand/potential users. Invoking @xeroc

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want "BitIRR"! If I could not do that I will Issue a UIA and I support pegged asset to fiat myself!

Are you an exchange?  :P

DestBest,

Let me know what should I do exactly to apply for BitIRR?
I read a lot docs! but still not sure where is the start point?

Thanks
Sepehr

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply liondani.
Can I run CLI on windows?

Just for update:

http://bitshares.ir/

is now up and parked on our website and will decide what to do with it later.

Thanks everybody for your warm welcome.

Quote from: kenCode on November 14, 2015, 11:34:42 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 10:39:27 AM

Quote from: kenCode on November 14, 2015, 09:49:42 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 03:39:47 AM

Quote from: DestBest on November 14, 2015, 03:00:07 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want to issue a pegged asset to fiat, My local country fiat(IRR), and I understood that I need to attract confirmation from 51+ of important guys from community.
By the way if that is the way I'm ready to do that.

You can have IRR/BTS pair on BitShares by next week if there is enough demand/potential users. Invoking @xeroc

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want "BitIRR"! If I could not do that I will Issue a UIA and I support pegged asset to fiat myself!

Are you an exchange?  :P

I'm not sure if there is enough demand in bitshares community. But I'm sure there exist enough demand in Iranian community to have pegged IRR cryptocurrencies.
Yes we are  an exchange in Iran:
http://coinex.ir/

Welcome, @sepehr if you are running an Exchange in Iran and you create a market-pegged asset like bitIRR then I am DEFINITELY interested.
Here is some info to get you started:
http://docs.bitshares.eu/integration/exchanges/index.html
The moment I see you guys appear in my wallet as a Gateway too, I would like to help you promote bitIRR. What you are doing is VERY newsworthy. Welcome to BitShares. :)

Thanks a lot kenCode!
This is the warm welcome I was looking for! :)
I will definitely start the steps toward bitIRR and your support is very very appreciated.
Let me read the doc you provided and It seems that I need a bit time because the consepts you guys are familiar with is very nonsense yet for me.
But I think I can synchronize myself with you soon, no worries. ;)

Not a problem, I will help out as much as I can and if you have a question that I cannot answer, I will try to bring in one of the Lead Developers. Most of the coding that you might want is virtually drag and drop too, so have your Devs check out this link as well (we have upgraded everything to Graphene technology):
https://github.com/cryptonomex

Thanx again and I look forward to working with you! :)
ken@bitshares-Munich.de
skype: kenCode_de

Thanks a lot my friend,
Inspiring from your email address I have just registered "bitshares.ir" because I liked the technology that I read till now.
I have a lot of questions that I really don't know which one I ask first!
But let me begin with this one!

I have installed the new Bitshare 2.0 GUI, But it seems that it is not complete yet so let me know how can Install a full node CLI bitshare?
Every link on the bitshares sites only guide to the GUI and not a CLI interface!

Thanks once again,
Sepehr

Quote from: kenCode on November 14, 2015, 09:49:42 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 03:39:47 AM

Quote from: DestBest on November 14, 2015, 03:00:07 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want to issue a pegged asset to fiat, My local country fiat(IRR), and I understood that I need to attract confirmation from 51+ of important guys from community.
By the way if that is the way I'm ready to do that.

You can have IRR/BTS pair on BitShares by next week if there is enough demand/potential users. Invoking @xeroc

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want "BitIRR"! If I could not do that I will Issue a UIA and I support pegged asset to fiat myself!

Are you an exchange?  :P

I'm not sure if there is enough demand in bitshares community. But I'm sure there exist enough demand in Iranian community to have pegged IRR cryptocurrencies.
Yes we are  an exchange in Iran:
http://coinex.ir/

Welcome, @sepehr if you are running an Exchange in Iran and you create a market-pegged asset like bitIRR then I am DEFINITELY interested.

Here is some info to get you started:
http://docs.bitshares.eu/integration/exchanges/index.html

The moment I see you guys appear in my wallet as a Gateway too, I would like to help you promote bitIRR. What you are doing is VERY newsworthy. Welcome to BitShares. :)

Thanks a lot kenCode!
This is the warm welcome I was looking for! :)
I will definitely start the steps toward bitIRR and your support is very very appreciated.
Let me read the doc you provided and It seems that I need a bit time because the consepts you guys are familiar with is very nonsense yet for me.
But I think I can synchronize myself with you soon, no worries. ;)

Quote from: DestBest on November 14, 2015, 03:00:07 AM

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want to issue a pegged asset to fiat, My local country fiat(IRR), and I understood that I need to attract confirmation from 51+ of important guys from community.
By the way if that is the way I'm ready to do that.

You can have IRR/BTS pair on BitShares by next week if there is enough demand/potential users. Invoking @xeroc

Quote from: sepehr on November 14, 2015, 02:27:16 AM
I want "BitIRR"! If I could not do that I will Issue a UIA and I support pegged asset to fiat myself!

Are you an exchange?  :P

I'm not sure if there is enough demand in bitshares community. But I'm sure there exist enough demand in Iranian community to have pegged IRR cryptocurrencies.
Yes we are  an exchange in Iran:

http://coinex.ir/

Quote from: DestBest on November 13, 2015, 10:32:54 PM

Quote from: sepehr on November 13, 2015, 03:53:44 PM
Got it! User Issued Assets! Thanks Sepehr! :)

What are you planning to do with your UIA?  :)

I want to issue a pegged asset to fiat, My local country fiat(IRR), and I understood that I need to attract confirmation from 51+ of important guys from community.
By the way if that is the way I'm ready to do that.
I want "BitIRR"! If I could not do that I will Issue a UIA and I support pegged asset to fiat myself!

Quote from: sepehr on November 13, 2015, 03:33:53 PM

Quote from: phillyguy on October 19, 2015, 11:44:09 PM

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Quote from: phillyguy on October 19, 2015, 08:03:38 PM

Quote from: sepehr on October 19, 2015, 05:24:19 AM

Quote from: svk on October 19, 2015, 05:16:12 AM

Quote from: sepehr on October 19, 2015, 02:58:56 AM

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on October 19, 2015, 02:53:21 AM
You may want to wait until there are more GUI options to work with your UIA. I believe a patch is forthcoming that will address at least a few options.

Do you mean that Not all options available in GUI?

Yes, asset creation is incomplete in the GUI atm, I'm gonna work on upgrading it this week.

Thanks Tuck and svk,
I'm not a grandma! I can do low level actions also!
Let me know how to issue an asset and start announcing it?

Go to Dashboard > Click on your account > Click Assets > Create New Asset > Specify the symbol, description, supply and precision > Confirm the details > Pay 5,000 BTS

Or 500000 depending on the length  :P

Speaking of fees - if I'm a lifetime member and I create UIA, do I get 80% of that back too?

what is UIA stand for?

Got it! User Issued Assets! Thanks Sepehr! :)