I am working on the same issue.  I was able to load my old wallet into 0.9.3c but cannot seem to get it reconciled with a new Bitshares 2.0 wallet nor an account.  I was not able to synch the old 0.9.3c blockchain before exporting the wallet file so not sure if that is the problem?

I am in the same boat or close to it.  Let me know if you find a solution!

I am having the same problem.  I went through all the same steps as iwinyoumad but cannot access my balance.  I had to create a new account in Bitshares 2.0, but when I go to import the wallet, I have to switch to wallet mode, from there I can import my wallet, it shows an unclaimed balance, but after clicking submit or import or whatever, it shows no unclaimed balances found.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Quote from: liondani on July 26, 2014, 12:46:17 PM

Quote from: Captain_Picard on July 26, 2014, 04:14:22 AM
I've picked out a few favorites from the slogans you have all thrown out, but first, can anyone point me to a summary/video that will explain to me why BitShares is a good investment in less than 2 minutes of my time? 

If you have less than 2 minutes see this:
http://youtu.be/XaY_KIsouTY

If you have more try this:  ;)
http://youtu.be/5BV55IrZi7g

Thanks.  The short explainer video is actually not bad.  The slogan used is "BitShares Does For Business What Bitcoin Does For Money", which again is not bad, unless we want to distance ourselves from Bitcoin, which is a very interesting conversation all on its own.  I still think most of the BitShares buyers will be Bitcoin holders, because they understand the technology and some of them are still sitting on oodles of Bitcoin looking to diversify into other projects.  I am guessing most of Ethereum's fund raising is coming from Bitcoin holders.

One question: Are we really expecting a real life business (albeit a techy one) like Overstock.com to try to run their business on BitShares?  In my view, this is highly unlikely.  I think it is far more likely that people will want to use BitShares to start some sort of business or fund some sort of new project.

I see two main benefits of BitShares - efficiency for running a business and flexibility for starting/funding a business.  Again I think it is hard to imagine an existing business moving some or all of their functions over to a blockchain.  Instead, I see a whole new breed of businesses that begin on a blockchain.  So maybe BitShares is the easiest way to start a business or fund a new project.  At the end of the day, BitShares' value will be based on how many people use it.  "BitShares - Powering A Whole New Breed Of Business" comes to mind.

Also, I think the token creation aspect is HUGE and should really be the focal point of any Bitcoin 2.0 efforts. The asset creation tool enabled by CounterParty, for example, is going to be mind-blowingly powerful and it is also relatively simple to understand and use.  Does BitShares provide a similar asset creation/exchange tool, and if so, should it not also be part of the main benefits presented in the marketing plan?

I am still undecided on my vote for the slogan, but very interested in the community's thoughts on the above.

Great discussion guys. I have a marketing background and understand the traditional investor's perspective pretty well.  I am just trying to get caught up on what BitShares has been up to over the last few months so I am the perfect guinea pig for your marketing efforts. 

I've picked out a few favorites from the slogans you have all thrown out, but first, can anyone point me to a summary/video that will explain to me why BitShares is a good investment in less than 2 minutes of my time? 

From there, I think it might help us narrow our slogan selection and give us a better idea who our target market is and what our consistent message should be.  At least in my case, it is just not enough to say "amazing technology" or "very profitable DACs".  I'd like to see a concise summary that presents the relevant points that every investor will want to consider before making an investment in BitShares.

The standard VC wants to know the following at a glance:

Team Background and Past Success
Problem You Are Solving
Market Size
Sales and Profit Estimates

I know these points might be hard to quantify, and we are dealing with a totally different animal in crypto, but at the end of the day, we can't expect many people to just throw money on pure price speculation (worked well for awhile with a lot of newly minted Bit zillionaires but there is a lot of competition now). 

I am sure an investor's summary/new user intro to BitShares is probably available on this forum somewhere,  but again, busy professionals and investors will NEVER spend the time to weed through a large forum like this to learn about an investment.  They want someone that sounds (and has proven to be) trustworthy to tell them why they should wire funds in five minutes or less, preferably two.

First, my hats off to all the hard work that is being done behind the scenes.  I trust we will be completely impressed with the result and overjoyed with our investments. 

In my case I found this forum recently without much time to research everything before the snapshot deadline, so I did not invest nearly as much (maybe 10%) as I would have had I been clear on several more aspects of the overall plan.  Am I ready to throw the other 90% in now that I think I understand?  So far, the answer is no.

Lol.... reminds me of this video that tries to explain the difference between Great Britain, England, the UK and the Crown:  http://biggeekdad.com/2011/03/the-uk-great-britain-and-england-explained/ 

except in this case we have Invictus, PTS, BTS, AGS plus a variety of future DACs.  I think a chart like they used at the end of the above video might be useful to explain the relationships of the different parts.

At least with Counterparty, Ethereum, Mastercoin, there is only one thing to buy as far as I can tell - the coin itself - and everyone who believes in their project buys that coin it is that simple.   I am sure the folks at Protoshares have it clear in their minds which stakes in which acronyms represent which opportunities, but if I tried to get other investors involved in this right now it would be far from a no-brainer and more like a mind-bender.

Regarding the previous comment "like trying to market the Internet in 1990, no one would understand..." you are exactly right, so the result was the only companies that actually succeeded WERE the ones who successfully explained and marketed it to the average Joe.  Most of the computer companies before Apple and the Internet companies who came before Google are dead Jim dead!  No matter how smart the developers were, the only ones that ever succeeded were the ones who could market to the masses.

This is why Dogecoin is succeeding, it might be the worst coin from a technical perspective, but a 10 year old "gets it" in about 15 seconds.  And, unfortunately, 10 year old brain power is a lot closer to the average out there in the world today...  I think platform for launching future DACs hold some promise as far as presenting simple solutions for real world problems.  I hope that is the end result of this project.

Thanks for the replies...

I am not trying to criticize anyone here, I am trying to explain this experience from a newbie investor's perspective so people know what we are thinking and seeing as this process evolves and hopefully learn from it.

I am fully comfortable with the idea of speculating on the future potential of an idea, and not looking to make a quick overnight buck, however I am not the only person confused with what has now happened post-snapshot.

I guess my understanding was that after the snapshot PTS would become BTS so the old PTS would basically be worthless/removed after being replaced with BTS - this would be very clear and easy to understand.  But what we have now to me is somewhat confusing to both existing investors and potential investors and confusion is not desirable if you are running what amounts to an investment fund.

If someone wants to invest in PTS now (post snapshot), what should they do or why would they invest?  They've missed the benefit of getting in "pre-snapshot" but are unable to buy any new "post snapshot" BTS because they are not available on any exchange nor are there any wallets to store them.   What should a new investor do from this point, should they buy "post snapshot" PTS on an exchange at the now deflated price without knowing how/when those be converted into BTS or wait until BTS is "ready"? 

Trust me, I think invictus has a lot more potential than Dogecoin or we would not be having this conversation, but the point I am trying to get across is that simple and direct communication and marketing is KEY to getting something off the ground and attracting investors and right now in this regard Doge is doing a far better job than Invictus.

I believe in the Invictus vision and maybe I am in the minority camp of being confused but you guys need help if you want to attract sophisticated investors who are accustomed to more traditional and simplified investor communications.   I am guessing this is not your highest priority while everything is still being built but if you need a marketing/communications person, let me know if I can help.

The commenter who clarified the use of the term "third party" helps a lot, I think?

I think the negative feedback stems from the fact that investors' money is currently in "limbo" without being forewarned of this fact (at least I didn't get the memo that there would be no wallet "for awhile"). 

So our current holdings of PTS are not worth anything in its former version "PTS" but there is no wallet ready to enable those funds to be transferred to the new version of BTS XT, which means we just have to sit on our hands and wait until (hopefully) a third party comes along and produces a wallet?

I guess I was under the impression that after the snapshot date, our funds would be credited to a new crypto currency that we could then trade/liquidate on the exchanges just like before.  Instead, it seems like our funds are trapped and awaiting a "third party".  What did I miss in the initial explanation or am I misunderstanding something? 

If I did miss something, you have to understand for newbies, we might not have read through the thousands of forum pages to figure out WTF is going on.  I think there needs to be more clarity from ProtoShares communication desks so instead of a lengthy forum page that we have to weed through to find the facts, some simple and clear explanations on their home page or some centralized communication source would be helpful.

So, now that I have PTS sitting in my wallet, what exactly do I have?  A claim for some new and improved BitShares that currently have no wallet, no exchangeable value, and no actual DAC or any functional benefit whatsoever but a long list of promises?  I am fine with speculating on the future potential of ProtoShares, every crypto I own is a speculation on the future, but I don't remember reading about how my funds would just sit there indefinitely for a month or more until some unknown third parties come up with something valuable to offer to the marketplace.

At least with Dogecoin I can sell it tomorrow if I decide the speculation is not worth the risk.  Seems this option is unavailable with PTS/BTS.  If this potential lack of liquidity was explained before the snapshot, where was this info posted?

It looks like my withdrawal did get confirmed into my wallet so that is good news.  No I did not see a way to add a transaction fee in Cryptsy...

Thanks.  Where/how are transaction fees added to any PTS transaction?

I am having a similar issue withdrawing from Cryptsy, only one confirmation in 8 hours.  I don't know if this means my funds are in PTS, still on Cryptsy, or in some partially confirmed limbo state.  Any suggestions as to what I should do?

Thanks for the update.  I still only have one confirmation and it's been almost 8 hours.  I was not aware of any transaction fees that needed to be added. Not sure what I should do, feels like my funds are in limbo which is not very comforting.  Should I just let the wallet run all night and hope for the best, attempt to cancel somehow, or close and restart the wallet?

Hmmm let me know if you come across any news or updates.  My first Dogecoin withdrawal was confirmed in a couple of minutes.  PTS may be full of great ideas but if not user friendly much fail. 

Update, I have one confirmation and it's been like that for four hours or so... is this normal?

I am trying to receive a transaction from Cryptsy to my PTS Wallet.  Wallet shows the incoming deposit, but it's been over an hour and it still shows 0 of 6 confirmations.  How long should this take or am I doing something wrong?