Quote from: stickhead on February 20, 2014, 10:04:14 am

Quote from: barwizi on February 20, 2014, 07:35:19 am

Quote from: stickhead on February 20, 2014, 12:52:04 am

So basicly you are waving your promises away for noirbits holders and giving the import to PTS holders?

Also looks like PTS is in a big pump.

Really time to leave this one far behind as i know how horrible your support was for NoirBits.

That people still fall for this stuff...

If you were really a Noirbits holder, you had over two months to join the discussion over how to move forward. If you were really a long time supporter of Noirbits, you'd remember that against my advice, people went with  a fork made by an over enthusiastic pool owner and they ended up being left in the dirt. Rather than be sensitive and hurt, i took it back and added it to my plans.


i am building a platform for it to grow far beyond that. If you impatient, then by all means, help us gather resources to pay for the development of the exchange.

What discussion? The discussion where you never gave answers but made fake promises to Noirbits holders by given them noirshares by holding noribits? Do we really have to quote yourself? There was no discussion possible with you if you never give a proper answer.

To bad that protoshares is involved with this after the failure of memorycoin. Time to sell my BTC AGS key and put my money ethereum. Looks like bitcloud didn't leave this ship without sense

My opinion is that you are a sour individual who wanted to cash in early and get rich quick without putting any effort. such shallow thinking is not viable in the crypto equity area. You could have simply asked for NRS instead you wish to throw accusations in my face, doesnt say nuch for your motivations. NRB will have it's platform and if you are unhappy that is has been seperated from NRS then you do not share my vision. Lol, have you tried contacting me?  I seem to post  skype name every few days, no word from you. Get past what ever problems you are having and choose what you wish to do. If you do not believe NRB are worth holding, then noone will force you to. However, you have snubbed NRB,NRS and PTS in one post, which leaves me wondering if you even understand the ideas here.

NRB== CRYTPTOCOIN
NRS== CRYPTOCOIN/EQUITY

they serve different purposes and will have different platforms.
 

lol below was your final talk on importing NRB on the NRS genesis block, quoted from on the noirbits forum. i was involved with that forum from the start as team member under a different nick because i just wanted to see where this would end. Also with mining NRS i was busy for a week now so it's not about getting rich quick which i cannot say about how you do your things

I have compiled a list of the officers in charge of this project. most of my free time has been used working on designing the shares and a new currency. I will import all balances from NRB, I now have the data to back my earlier claims that scrypt coins are done for and the current implementation of hashcash algo is obsolete.

Like any currency ours needs to respond to changes on a global scale, in a manner not easily manipulated by a single entity with the $$$ or politics. My new proposed design further explores the realistic viability of fullscale deployment of a digital currency. To that effect, i am now overwhelmed by some of the work and as a result i need a coder or two to assist with the workload. For those who have seen my work on other forums, i will be implementing a Software license along with this new currency to protect actual investors.

The new skype chat group will be opened midweek for face to face communication. A for the financial and documentation side........WE ARE SET!!!!

There was never ever mentioned anything about PTS, you are such a douche barwizi. Good luck with your NRS

So basicly you are waving your promises away for noirbits holders and giving the import to PTS holders?

Also looks like PTS is in a big pump.

Really time to leave this one far behind as i know how horrible your support was for NoirBits.

That people still fall for this stuff...

Quote from: stickhead on January 11, 2014, 03:31:39 am

Jeeez what a soap story this coin... It's a shame this happens on the bitsharestalk board and it only hurts the good reputation of Invictus. If this coin was honest all this drama never happened!!

Sorry to say but this coin is doomed and can never be used for a honest voting system after all what happened... What goes around comes around!? Maybe launch GreedCoin where MMC2 will be included in the genesis block... I think this name fits a whole bunch off people involved with MMC

I had nothing to do with 1.0, protoshares and was not included in the genesis block either?

I think it has potential, I believe freetrade will disperse the coins he gave himself to those who create things for the coin.

For example he gave 5000 coins to the people who created the optimized miner

The idea behind the coin is fantastic, really! But look at it like this... you life in a country where some dictator says; we have a democracy and people are free to vote!! But behind the scenes there is one absolute power that overrules all votes and only organizes elections to give a fake feeling to the people that they actually have a choice... There are still many countries in the world where this happens and if i get it right this is the opposite of why crypto's are invented. Makes sense right?

In the first place it was a big mistake to gave the votes power by how many coins they are backed. I think this was perfectly thought of before it was implemented.... How can you create a fair democratic coin if only the rich have power?

Quote from: MegaFarmer on January 09, 2014, 08:13:59 pm

I'm noticing a correlation between Freetrade not answering questions about his premine and price decreases.

I'm noticing a correlation between the jackal people wish to be on the staff (and maybe they still to dump the coin on the market) and price decreases.

I'm noticing a correlation between the officers that get payed in MMC and the good behavior of FreeTrade

Quote from: stickhead on January 09, 2014, 09:57:52 pm

Quote from: sumantso on January 09, 2014, 09:55:37 pm

Quote from: stickhead on January 09, 2014, 09:38:55 pm

exactly!! guess this is why my feeling says i should stack more PTS now when its cheap

Why stack PTS and not AGS though?

If you have a limited BTC for investment right now it makes sense to get AGS. I used up my BTC for getting AGS and over the next few days will be converting PTS to AGS if the ratio is not too bad.

Because this PTS can be converted back to BTC and AGS not? I dont really care about the ratio, i care about the fact that i dont burn BTC/PTS by sending this to the Angel address..

Bitshares and all those that will follow can be converted to BTC too if you wish. Makes sense to to try and grab more of those.

As long as i have my PTS stack i will also get these DACS ofcourse + 3rd party DACS that dont get honoured with AGS (if i understand correctly). For me a trade-able item has always more value then something that cant be moved. Anyway i think we go to off topic here Maybe i convert some PTS to AGS when to steady daily flow dries up.. Still plenty of room to see where it goes in the next weeks/months

Quote from: stickhead on January 09, 2014, 08:39:13 pm

Quote from: sumantso on January 09, 2014, 08:27:37 pm

Quote from: bytemaster on January 09, 2014, 07:46:27 pm

We will be using the BitShares earned in the Angel Address to fund development of the ecosystem.

Considering that PTS holders will probably get much less BTS per unit than AGS, it would be nice if there were some more incentive. Distributing BTS only among PTS out there would be a boost, but then having extra BTS in the hands of Invictus will be good too.

On that regard, I was wondering if it was possible to distribute BTS only among 'useful' PTS wallets. Cryptsy, for instance, has said they won't bother with converting their stash. Is there a way to not credit BTS to exchanges (yes, yes, I am a PTS holder and so trying to find ways to get more BTS per PTS).

I think it willbe a good moment that when BTS willbe distributed AGS and PTS are in a 50/50 position with each other. Guess this willbe in ~4 months and will be inline with the release date of BTS. This would make everybody happy because things will be equal for all (but ofcourse this is upto Invictus how they fill this).

Don't forget that not all PTS is minted by that time, so expect a 1:1.3 distribution. Only thing i don't get is the low price of PTS atm. Looks like people forget that PTS is trade-able and AGS not.

Every day the fixed supply of AGS available before BTS launch date will dwindle by 10,000 shares.
By comparison, the opportunity to obtain PTS will be virtually unlimited for last minute shoppers.
But they will have to pay the price because PTS holders won't be much interested in selling at that time.

Every day public awareness of what is about to occur will increase.
Every day the risk of that happening goes down as we publish our nightly progress reports.

So there will be more competition for a dwindling supply of AGS swinging the pendulum back to PTS.

After each DAC is released, there will be DACshareholders wanting to trade back into PTS for the next DAC.
And there will be outsiders wanting to grab DACshares before they escalate.

This should produce some interesting opportunities for those who get PTS now while they are cheep.
Those that look ahead over the next few months have all kinds of predictable opportunities.
Those who focus on some single transient trend... not so much.

 

exactly!! guess this is why my feeling says i should stack more PTS now when its cheap

The trade value is only there due to its usefulness in getting shares. If the market decides that its much better holding AGS than PTS then that value plummets. Look at the PTS donation for AGS. Started at around 2.3k per day, yesterday it was 3k and today its already 3.7k.

The main advantage with PTS as far as I can see is if 3rd party DACs which do not use Invictus code turns out to be any good.

I don't know if i see this wrong but to me this means that in a few months PTS willbe a scarce crypto which will drive the price higher then it was before because PTS is still backed by future DACS!? Only thing i hope that 3rd party DACS would be more fair then the pre-mined feeling of MMC2.0. This hurts the system more in the long run because of unfair advantages (which are not Invictus faults!!)