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We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright?
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
Thank you for the polite and patient explanation.
Please understand we have far more at stake in this than anyone else: our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
I am very sorry that I seem too optimistic and arrogant. But that is how optimistic I am. What would you think if I was pessimistic? Then you would be right to be worried.
As for arrogant. I know what is involved. I see how hard everyone is working. I am amazed at the talent in the core team. I understand that this flagship product cannot be rushed to release without thorough testing. I know from 40 years of experience what it takes. How do I communicate this to others in a way that is not perceived as arrogant? Who will say these things if I don't? Should these things be left unsaid? How then would you know the truth?
I cannot agree that we have not done well (technically). We have slain every dragon we have encountered. We might wish that there were fewer dragons, but those are what we have encountered on the path to our long-stated goals. We took a ten-week detour to make a critical break-through. That detour cost us the ability to deliver an early Minimum Viable Product (MVP) in the spring, but we are now back on schedule for the same summer milestone we had originally planned: a User Friendly Product (UFP). Make a breakthrough, still reach the next milestone on time, and get developers started on multiple other billion dollar assets at the same time! We have no need to apologize for any of that.
It is true that we have not done well in public relations. We have tried to use the forum as a sounding board to get feedback on our ideas but we recognize that half the world really doesn't want to see the sausage being made. But Bytemaster comes here often because it gives him energy to talk about his ideas and hear your feedback. He works double shifts every day. He goes from team member to team member, instantly in sync with what they are doing and helping guide each one in turn, then he's off to his office for his own coding session. For those of you who have done coding, you know that it takes enormous mental energy and must be done in surges. So when you see him here, making himself available to you and giving you insights about what he is thinking, he is really recharging for another surge of coding.
It is also true that we have not done well on Keyhotee. We chose to focus on BTS-X and contracted Keyhotee out to others. Those others did not have the benefit of working daily with Bytemaster. Months ago we decided it will have to wait on the back burner until BTS-X generates the resources to finish it. So lack of progress on Keyhotee is evidence that we are focused on BTS-X.
As for being fooled. Fooled? We share every thought with you. People complain that we share too much! We are always trying to make a better deal for every investor. We only succeed when you succeed. We have deliberately aligned our interests with yours. We make money the same way you make money - and no other way. Many times we don't pursue what we know would make everyone more money, because we can't achieve a consensus in the community. But we are always offering you our best ideas.
We are doing exactly what we promised to do with everyone's donations (and our own). We are building a new industry with many decentralized players. We have not demanded to own everything. We have settled for a small sliver of the pie. We have been creating opportunities for many others and a chance for early adopters to own a stake in many things.
Read the history of all great undertakings. They are the history of overcoming many obstacles and enduring the criticism of those who are not in the arena, not facing the dragons, and not covered with dust and sweat and blood.
In the end, it will be up to the judgement of each individual whether they profit greatly or give up because they lack the will to persevere.
We will not give up. We will fight the good fight. And we will succeed spectacularly.
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright?
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
Thank you for the polite and patient explanation.
Please understand we have far more at stake in this than anyone else: our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
I am very sorry that I seem too optimistic and arrogant. But that is how optimistic I am. What would you think if I was pessimistic? Then you would be right to be worried.
As for arrogant. I know what is involved. I see how hard everyone is working. I am amazed at the talent in the core team. I understand that this flagship product cannot be rushed to release without thorough testing. I know from 40 years of experience what it takes. How do I communicate this to others is a way that is not perceived as arrogant? Who will say these things if I don't? Should these things be left unsaid? How then would you know the truth?
I cannot agree that we have not done well (technically). We have slain every dragon we have encountered. We might wish that there were fewer dragons, but those are what we have encountered on the path to our long-stated goals. We took a ten-week detour to make a critical break-through. That detour cost us the ability to deliver an early Minimum Viable Product (MVP) in the spring, but we are now back on schedule for the same summer milestone we had originally planned: a User Friendly Product (UFP). Make a breakthrough, still reach the next milestone on time, and get developers started on multiple other billion dollar assets at the same time! We have no need to apologize for any of that.
It is true that we have not done well in public relations. We have tried to use the forum as a sounding board to get feedback on our ideas but we recognize that half the world really doesn't want to see the sausage being made. But Bytemaster comes here often because it gives him energy to talk about his ideas and hear your feedback. He works double shifts every day. He goes from team member to team member, instantly in sync with what they are doing and helping guide each one in turn, then he's off to his office for his own coding session. For those of you who have done coding, you know that it takes enormous mental energy and must be done in surges. So when you see him here, making himself available to you and giving you insights about what he is thinking, he is really recharging for another surge of coding.
It is also true that we have not done well on Keyhotee. We chose to focus on BTS-X and contracted Keyhotee out to others. Those others did not have the benefit of working daily with Bytemaster. Months ago we decided it will have to wait on the back burner until BTS-X generates the resources to finish it. So lack of progress on Keyhotee is evidence that we are focused on BTS-X.
As for being fooled. Fooled? We share every thought with you. People complain that we share too much! We are always trying to make a better deal for every investor. We only succeed when you succeed. We have deliberately aligned our interests with yours. We make money the same way you make money - and no other way. Many times we don't pursue what we know would make everyone more money, because we can't achieve a consensus in the community. But we are always offering you our best ideas.
We are doing exactly what we promised to do with everyone's donations (and our own). We are building a new industry with many decentralized players. We have not demanded to own everything. We have settled for a small sliver of the pie. We have been creating opportunities for many others and a chance for early adopters to own a stake in many things.
Read the history of all great undertakings. They are the history of overcoming many obstacles and enduring the criticism of those who are not in the arena, not facing the dragons, and not covered with dust and sweat and blood.
In the end, it will be up to the judgement of each individual whether they profit greatly or give up because they lack the will to persevere.
We will not give up. We will fight the good fight. And we will succeed spectacularly.
We Chinese are the most important supporters of 3I.
Donating a lot of BTC and PTS for Bitshares,wating for such a long time , we still can't see the result we want!
How can we trust your ability!?
If the product can't come out ,We will use the law to protect our right or .....another ways you know :）
We are not weak ,just stop treating us like poor guys who can't do anything. Alright?
My English is so poor,if you have seen this article,please reply it for our benefit.
The forum is full of two kinds of posts:We see that all this evidence of success is not making it through to our Chinese friends. If it was, how could you be angry?
- Those who are happily testing the software which becomes more polished every day.
- Those who are very angry for reasons we can't understand.
We are very proud of our progress and it's all plainly visible for anyone to see.
Where is all of this fear, uncertainty and doubt coming from?
I wonder if someone is sending you misinformation?
Stan,
I have some words to say.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't wanna hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
There is far too much posting in the main threads by newly registered participants attempting to disrupt rather than contribute. The best way to keep this forum focused would be to have a 30 day waiting period where "newbies" are only allowed to post in a "newbie" thread.
If a newly registered poster has been a "long time lurker", too bad. Because you might just be a sock puppet inculcating dissent. Or you are a hit and run investor hoping for "pump and dump" style profits and share not of the philosophical underpinnings of III.
Anyone who has been around this forum for months knows in their bones the utter integrity of the Bitshares team. You may not agree with all their decisions, but you know they are attempting to do the best they can for PTS and AGS holders and for the DAC ecosystem.
Some people have a need to tear things down rather than build things up. I personally don't understand that attitude, but hey, it takes all kinds. But it seems to me unwise to allow such people into the main threads until they have at least shown enough persistence to sit through a 30 day waiting period. Most will just gravitate to go on to badmouth other forums where little determination or creativity, and zero positive contribution, is required rather than undergo a 30 day period of learning and reflection.
Thank you for your genius speech ~ but actually some newbies are not real newbies, they may have been on this forum for long time like me. i don't feel dissapointed since the first day i was with 3I. i have waited for over half a year and gradually lose some of the confidence (not all, but some, about 50% )
i think BM works so hard, and he might be a very talented man, and i think BM is very nice person. most team members seem to be good.
but it also seems that by now, 3I is not very successful and did not do a very good job that satisfy most people because you can see it through the AGS donation situation and the PTS price.
in recent months, darkcoin,nxt, blackcoin , bitcoin price perform well, and that means most people satisfy about them
however, 3I is not good enough.
sometimes, Chinese people may express their love to someone by critizing them.
as an Chinese saying gose "scold is love"
Sorry, I did not express myself well enough because I was not referring to you. Your posting is very polite and expresses your concern without being too negative.
What I was trying to call attention to is the large number of newbies who on the first day they register and in their first post are expressing very negative opinions on different threads. I was hoping that these people could be held to posting only in the "newbie" section until they have been registered for 30 days because they are causing unnecessary FUD and dissension in the threads.
Some others have stated the opinion that this negativity may be deliberate to drive down the price of PTS just before the launching of the first DAC in order to buy in cheap now and then sell for a quick profit if prices skyrocket upon the pending release. And this is indeed a possiblity.
Is there any harm to confining a newcomer to posting only in the "newbie" section for 30 days while they read the history and become familiar with developments? If they are not sock puppets or manipulators deliberately spreading FUD, and they are indeed new to this forum, this will give them a chance to research and then speak from a greater knowledge base.
There is far too much posting in the main threads by newly registered participants attempting to disrupt rather than contribute. The best way to keep this forum focused would be to have a 30 day waiting period where "newbies" are only allowed to post in a "newbie" thread.
If a newly registered poster has been a "long time lurker", too bad. Because you might just be a sock puppet inculcating dissent. Or you are a hit and run investor hoping for "pump and dump" style profits and share not of the philosophical underpinnings of III.
Anyone who has been around this forum for months knows in their bones the utter integrity of the Bitshares team. You may not agree with all their decisions, but you know they are attempting to do the best they can for PTS and AGS holders and for the DAC ecosystem.
Some people have a need to tear things down rather than build things up. I personally don't understand that attitude, but hey, it takes all kinds. But it seems to me unwise to allow such people into the main threads until they have at least shown enough persistence to sit through a 30 day waiting period. Most will just gravitate to go on to badmouth other forums where little determination or creativity, and zero positive contribution, is required rather than undergo a 30 day period of learning and reflection.
