Quote from: Ben Mason on June 11, 2016, 07:10:58 pm

Quote from: Marky0001 on June 11, 2016, 05:46:05 pm

Quote from: Ben Mason on June 11, 2016, 10:08:40 am

Whoever is making the decisions for peertracks/muse have, for me, irreparably compromised the integrity of this project. You've had my btc and then moved steadily beyond any accountability or what I would consider a rational approach to the project and community. Wether peertracks or troopeers or whatever launches or not, I've lost my passion for your project and will be looking elsewhere for a solution to unlocking music creativity and distribution. I still don't believe cob is a scammer, but I do believe some of the responsibility for the apparent failure of this project and the alienation of the muse community is his. So for anyone with muse or thinking to get any.....think very carefully beforehand and beware of the degree of compromise and centralisation that may have occurred . I make this statement before altering any muse position I have currently.  I may try to salvage something but generally that will come at someone else's expense so I guess I'll chalk muse up to a sad and unecessary waste. On the bright side, there's always hope and I can't wait until music is set free!

What is the definition of a scammer?

Cob did take our money by telling lies all the time. Isn't that exactly what a scammer does? He never explained why he spread false information about an alpha that has never been out or hundreds of testers etc.
All the false information and implications have always come out as lies.

I don't see how we cannot call him a scammer.

He burned 500k of investors money and is still here telling us they will come up with some crap, but the main objective isn't on the radar .

No roadmap but a bunch of crap talk.

He is a scammer

I can empathise with some of how you feel marky. But I believe his intentions were honourable at the beginning and he was as enthused and passionate about building something revolutionary for music as the rest of us. Along the way things happened and gradually its all gone wrong. This happens. Whatever the truth, i've lost interest and will focus my engagement with other more promising projects. It's not the first mistake I've made and it won't be the last. I'm not about to waste any more time and effort trying to extract answers that will clearly never be forthcoming. Anyway that's it. I doubt I'll comment further in this part of the forum.

just today, i saw you dump about one million MUSE

Whoever is making the decisions for peertracks/muse have, for me, irreparably compromised the integrity of this project. You've had my btc and then moved steadily beyond any accountability or what I would consider a rational approach to the project and community. Wether peertracks or troopeers or whatever launches or not, I've lost my passion for your project and will be looking elsewhere for a solution to unlocking music creativity and distribution. I still don't believe cob is a scammer, but I do believe some of the responsibility for the apparent failure of this project and the alienation of the muse community is his. So for anyone with muse or thinking to get any.....think very carefully beforehand and beware of the degree of compromise and centralisation that may have occurred . I make this statement before altering any muse position I have currently.  I may try to salvage something but generally that will come at someone else's expense so I guess I'll chalk muse up to a sad and unecessary waste. On the bright side, there's always hope and I can't wait until music is set free!

Project smelled fishy from the beginning... spending all their dough on "networking" night club parties.  But hey, at least you guys got to see them having a blast sucking down cocktails on your dime.

There are going to be a lot more projects that turn out like this as the bitshares network and the ability to issue uias for dead end projects is a con artists dream.  Almost impossible to hold scammers\criminals accountable.