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只有公开其喂价计算公式及采集依据,才能让大家投票,撤票都有依据!

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我有一点不明白,投票为什么是两亿多票就通过,大概是BTS发行量的十分之一,而不是一半呢?是因为大概十个BTS顶一票?还是其他?

另外就是投票里面还有一个反对BSIP42的,如果反对,也可以在这里投票。

至于公开喂价公式,巨蟹的一直都公开了,其他人的估计也差不多一样的,这些没什么好藏着掖着的,唯一的分歧是理念,有的人希望负反馈可以拉升到很高很高,有的人认为不应该。
这个事不能估计,要让各个见证人自己公开并给予确认,然后在社区内公开让大家监督。
如果认为见证人的工作不到位,就撤票呗。(没票等于白说 :-X
撤票也要有依据啊,我们怎么判断他不认真工作,他公开了算法,采集喂价的方式,我们就能监督他是不是认真工作了,到时撤票才客观,而不是看心情,靠猜。
你要求公开,他没公开,就是不认真了。
不撤票,怎么体现你的要求是“强烈要求”?
要求在论坛内开置顶贴 ,用于见证人公开自己喂价公式,及采集依据。不公布的我们就撤票,让他下台。

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要求在论坛内开置顶贴 ,用于见证人公开自己喂价公式,及采集依据。不公布的我们就撤票,让他下台。

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我有一点不明白,投票为什么是两亿多票就通过,大概是BTS发行量的十分之一,而不是一半呢?是因为大概十个BTS顶一票?还是其他?

另外就是投票里面还有一个反对BSIP42的,如果反对,也可以在这里投票。

至于公开喂价公式,巨蟹的一直都公开了,其他人的估计也差不多一样的,这些没什么好藏着掖着的,唯一的分歧是理念,有的人希望负反馈可以拉升到很高很高,有的人认为不应该。
这个事不能估计,要让各个见证人自己公开并给予确认,然后在社区内公开让大家监督。
如果认为见证人的工作不到位,就撤票呗。(没票等于白说 :-X
撤票也要有依据啊,我们怎么判断他不认真工作,他公开了算法,采集喂价的方式,我们就能监督他是不是认真工作了,到时撤票才客观,而不是看心情,靠猜。

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我有一点不明白,投票为什么是两亿多票就通过,大概是BTS发行量的十分之一,而不是一半呢?是因为大概十个BTS顶一票?还是其他?

另外就是投票里面还有一个反对BSIP42的,如果反对,也可以在这里投票。

至于公开喂价公式,巨蟹的一直都公开了,其他人的估计也差不多一样的,这些没什么好藏着掖着的,唯一的分歧是理念,有的人希望负反馈可以拉升到很高很高,有的人认为不应该。
这个事不能估计,要让各个见证人自己公开并给予确认,然后在社区内公开让大家监督。

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BSIP42 提案投票通过有一段时间了,但是目前看来见证人的喂价十分混乱,原因在于BSIP42方案本身并没有提出具体的见证人喂价计算公式,只是给出了一些原则性的规定。为了更好的使喂价计算变得规范,体现BSIP42提案效力,强烈建议发起《见证人喂价计算公式确认提案》,以提案的形式将各个见证人的喂价计算公式固定化公开化。

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今天的喂价0.76,成交价0.66。 这样被操纵的喂价就是在裸跑,只会让BTS成为一个限于中国区自嗨的系统,这不是发展BTS,长此下去失去全球共识,BTS天生所适用的汇兑功能,就真的废了。usdt还有一块遮羞布,我们BTS干脆连遮羞布都不要了,裸跑起来了!

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First of all, in the bear market, the BTS community also ushered in a reform discussion, which is very beneficial to the long-term development of BTS. At present, it mainly focuses on the discussion of feed price and MCR. Most of the discussion is about completing the anchoring of bitCNY. But few people think about whether the empty side will complete Malicious short under the new feed price rules. This is not normal, but also irresponsible reform! In view of this, we will create this new topic to let you discuss the possible shorting path of the empty side under the new feeding rules. The personal assumptions are as follows:

First, it has been suggested that not only must bitCNY be described accurately, but even bitCNY should be devalued. What I want to say is that if you pass the bitcNY depreciation scheme through the voting rights of BTS, the bitCNY holder is in the bear market (it has been very recent If a small number of people recharge, it is very likely that they will withdraw from the market, and even use the withdrawal method to raise the recharge rate into a negative value. Under the revised feed price rule, the feed price should be lowered. If the BTC falls, It is likely that the BTS will be cleared for global clearing.

Second, Now, only the bitCNY of the assets pledged by the BTS Council has a deep acceptance, while other assets are not deep, especially bitUSD. In other words, the bitUSD feed price cannot be applied to the new feed price rule. The bitCNY exchange rate against bitUSD in these days is seriously different from the actual exchange rate of the French currency. This is a good example of this problem. If it develops for a long time, it will cause two problems: 1. In the early stage of the implementation of the feed price, some people will be mortgaged. bitUSD, because in the bull market, the bitUSD and BTS trading areas are faster than the bitCNY area (because bitCNY under the new feeding rules, when the recharge rate is negative, the feed rate will be suppressed), the stop loss point is crossed. 2. The original intention of BTS is more like a banking system than a currency like BTC. I personally think that BTS is a natural system suitable for international remittance and exchange. This is the application of BTS for the assets of bitcny and bitUSD. However, under the new feeding rules, if the exchange rate between bitCNY and bitUSD is long-term, The exchange rate between the legal currency, the natural function of BTS will be abolished. When we talk about the shortage of bitCNY supply, do we really want to understand it? It is really because the supply is not enough, or because the internal disk itself can not be used. So, let the mortgage out of bitCNY only be able to make a profitable situation by buying BTS again? Just like the story of making a military parachute, letting the manufacturer try it will greatly improve the quality and reliability. Only let bitCNY be used in the inner disk, and let the use of bitCNY be beneficial, so that other exchanges can bitCNY. And bitUSD is confident. On this basis, the feed price correction has a real basis.

Third, under the new feeding rules, it is like giving the short seller a handle. Imagine that under the convergence of interests, when the BTS crosses the exit stop point of most people, bitCNY will definitely increase. At the time, there are still people in the bitCNY, and the acceptor will also exchange a large amount of 1 yuan for the price of more than 1 bitCNY to receive bitCNY, which is greater than the value of the stop loss multiple. When a certain point is reached, when the BTC falls, the acceptor will not recharge the situation if the majority of the people's storms will not be lost. The acceptor will even make a negative value lower than the cost of receiving the goods. Acceptance, which will accelerate the decline of the feed price, the emergence of the black swan will be a high probability event.

Fourth, the above hope that everyone will discuss corrections, so people think that the development of the acceptance and exchange function of the internal disk is given priority, so that all the bit assets have a certain acceptance depth, and then modify the feed price rules.

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中文(Chinese) / 关于新喂价改革可能的做空方式讨论
« on: September 09, 2018, 02:29:41 am »
首先在熊市中BTS社区也迎来了改革大讨论,这对BTS的长期发展是非常有利的,目前主要集中在喂价及最低抵押率的讨论。大部分的讨论都是要完成bitCNY的锚定上。但很少有人去思考空方会不会在新的喂价规则下完成大规模的做空。这是不正常的,也是不负责的改革!鉴于此,特开此贴让大家讨论一下,新喂价规则下空方的可能做空路径。个人的设想如下:

一、有人提出,不仅要让bitCNY锚定精准,甚至要让bitCNY贬值,我想说的是,如果你通过BTS的投票权强行通过bitCNY的贬值方案,bitCNY持有者在熊市(最近已经是很少人充值了)下很可能会提现离场,甚至用提现的方式将充值费率,提出成负值,这样在修改后的喂价规则下,喂价应该是下调,如果在配合BTC下跌,很可能会将BTS砸出全局清算。

二、目前BTS理事会抵押出的资产中只有bitCNY的承兑交易有深度,而其它资产并没有深度,特别是bitUSD。也就是说bitUSD喂价无法适用于新喂价规则。这几天出现的bitCNY对bitUSD的汇率严重脱离实际法币的汇率,就很能说明这个问题,如果长期发展下去,这会造成两个问题:1、在喂价执行初期,有一部分人会抵押出bitUSD,因为在牛市期,bitUSD与BTS的交易区比bitCNY区更快(因为bitCNY在新喂价规则下,当充值率为负时会抑制喂价上升)的越过止损点。2、BTS的设计初衷更像是一个类银行系统,而不是一个像BTC一样的货币。我个人认为BTS是一个天生的适合开展国际汇款及汇兑的系统,这是BTS天生为bitcny及bitUSD这些资产准备的应用,但在新的喂价规则下,如果长期的让bitCNY与bitUSD汇率脱离现实法币间汇率,那BTS这个天生功能将被废掉,我们在大谈bitCNY供应不足时,是否真的想明白了,是真的因为供应不足造成的无人用,还是因为内盘自己都用不起来,让抵押出来的bitCNY只有通过再次的买入BTS才能有利润可赚的局面造成的呢?就像那个制造军用降落伞的故事一样,让制造的人来试用,就会大大提高质量及可靠性,只有让bitCNY在内盘用起来,并且让bitCNY的使用有利可言,才能让其它交易所对bitCNY及bitUSD有信心。在此基础上的喂价修正才有真实的依据。

三、在新的喂价规则下,就好比又给了做空者一个把手,试想一下,在利益趋同下,当BTS越过大部分人的爆仓止损点后,bitCNY一定会多起来,如果此时依然有人在屯bitCNY,而承兑商也会大量的按1元法币换大于1个bitCNY的价格收bitCNY,这个大于值取决于越过止损点倍数。当到达某个点时,BTC下跌时,承兑商在大部人暴仓也不会有损失的情况下,也不会有人充值了,承兑商甚至还会以低于收货成本的负值做承兑,这样又会加速喂价的下跌,到时黑天鹅的出现,将是大概率事件了。

四、以上希望大家多讨论指正,所以人个认为优先开发内盘的承兑及汇兑功能,让各种bit资产都有了一定的承兑深度后,在修改喂价规则。


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