I have linux-mint sorry... ("menu" is like the windows "start" button but on linux mint....)
when the update window pop up (that's the "update manager") go to

edit>preferences>Ignored updates>add>muse>apply

People coming to OL would not see this interface. It would be ppl already using metatrader. I not a pro trader and don't use metatrader, but I don't see the harm in letting it pluginbto BitShares. Crypto users will still have their interface.

  exactly

Quote from: bytemaster on November 05, 2015, 06:12:13 pm

I think the advanced trading interface (screen shots provided) is terrible for 99% of crypto users / traders.   But it may well be the best for technical traders / day traders.

I think that if our interface looked like what I saw above we would be getting all kinds of complaints from far more users.   The interface is just too busy. 

I am not saying that we shouldn't have such a product.

I think we should look at etrade, etc as examples.   The market for the interface shown above is willing to PAY big dollars to have something that has every bell and whistle.

I can see tremendous value in making the exchange data available in a format that is easily integrated with external interfaces.

That's what I'm saying... you guys don't have time to design something like mt4... and you shouldn't spend time doing this because it is already done.  All we need is account and price data that can be fed to this platform.

Many people may think MT4 is too cluttered, but truth is you can make it as complicated or simple as you want.  Please please please don't think etrade is a good interface.  Interfaces like poloniex and etrade would never be taken seriously by professional traders.

Traders and brokers have ton's of options to choose from as far as trading platforms.  There is a reason that MT4 is the defacto standard.

Bottom line:  make a standard low tech interface for the default wallet, but allow other 3rd party platforms to access price and account data for more intricate and capable trading.

I am shocked to recognize that bytemaster seems not  not to be aware that metatrader4  is the defacto standard for traders... (and not only for the professional traders!)
And it is a standard for a reason!....


PS here are 2 another exchange platforms worth mentioning ...

http://www.cmcmarkets.co.uk/en/trading-platforms
https://ct.pepperstone.com/

Quote from: donkeypong on November 04, 2015, 07:40:09 pm

Yeah, okay. Well, THAT's a trading engine, isn't it? So I guess that's what our GUI needs to look like if we're going to attract serious traders?

No, we don't need that GUI. BTC-E is compatible with it but most people don't use it.
I would say you just need a sufficient GUI which right now we don't have yet. We don't even have a troll box yet.

It doesn't matter! It is enough that they know "It supports metatrader"
It gives confidence to know that a particular exchange supports metatrader!
Just ask trader's....


  for metatrader support.  I really think if we do it, we will  get much attention from trader's but from the media also!

had same problem...

go to:
 menu>administration>update manager>edit>preferences>Ignored updates>add>muse>apply

Quote from: lil_jay890 on November 04, 2015, 04:25:35 am

Quote from: mike623317 on November 04, 2015, 04:07:20 am

Quote from: bytemaster on November 04, 2015, 02:15:10 am

I leave town for one day and you all let the bottom fall out.   

If there is a market need for what BitShares solves then BTS has a future.  If there isn't a market need then it will remain small serving a niche.  The need for BTS is in times of crisis where decentralized exchanges are needed because all of the centralized exchanges fall down.

.. then lets make try and make the front end as easy and intuitive as possible for the non technical folks who dont give a damn about trading and just want to salvage whatever worthless dollars they still have in to gold and silver. [/color] I can do this in less that 5 clicks with bitreserve.

BM just said bitshares gains it's value from being an exchange when all centralized exchanges fail... that would lead me to believe we should skip making it for the average idiot, and tailor it to traders.

Metatrader 4 is the best trading platform I have used.  It's intuitive yet advanced.  Indicators are easy to write in mql4 and the barrier to entry is low.  There have been thousands of indicators created by regular traders.  I know people think poloniex has a great interface, but to tell you the truth, it's garbage.  It's boring, plain, and isn't even on par with basic broker platforms from companies like e-trade much less something like Metatrader.

If I showed the current interface to forex traders they would laugh.  There are no indicators(not even a moving average), no ability to zoom or pan, orders can't be executed by clicking on the chart, there is no line on the chart indicating where your open positions cost is, no active P/L, no grid option, no dynamic scaling, no ability to change bar colors, no ability to change to line or OHLC style charts.  And I can't stress enough that if you want to appeal to traders you need to be able to accommodate stop and take profit orders for open positions!  This is by far the main and most important thing to get functioning if you want traders.  Most of the other stuff a trader doesn't absolutely need to trade, but they need stops and take profits.

Seriously just look at metatrader 4... download it and open a demo account from one of the dozens of forex brokers that use metatrader as their platform (I use FXCM and Forex.com).  Give it a test run and you will see what trading platform needs to be at a minimum.  Unless we don't want traders, then all this is null and void.

You can even use mt4 as a frontend with any server side clearing software that plugs into the api... So you can use bitshares as the server giving trade information to mt4 which executes the trades and allows backtesting and algorthmic trading and development. This is a great idea... Ive said 100x gui coding is harder than you think unless you become a gui programmer. So leverage guis that work and mt4 clearly does.

@lil_jay890
@jsidhu

    for both of you for your suggestion's

PS I still can't understand why we want to invent the wheal again...   Let's combine bts2 vs Metatrader!   Superb idea !!!!!!!!!!

updated to BitShares 2.0.151101 and waiting for your votes....

If you want more security and more diversity for bts2 consider to vote for witness "liondani" 
I had two delegates in my control on bts1, delegate.liondani & jcalfee1-developer-team.helper.liondani

get_witness liondani
{
  "id": "1.6.48",
  "witness_account": "1.2.376",
  "last_aslot": 0,
  "signing_key": "BTS6zT2XD7YXJpAPyRKq8Najz4R5ut3tVMEfK8hqUdLBbBRjTjjKy",
  "vote_id": "1:59",
  "total_votes": "2437779856840",
  "url": "https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,6406.msg245698.html#msg245698",
  "total_missed": 0,
  "last_confirmed_block_num": 0
}