For helping the testnet then I'm up for it, also for the initial phase of getting the system up and running I'd also be happy to help out until enough people show up who want to do this as their jobs.

So I also raise my hand, vps located in the Netherlands.

It hasn't been merged, and the most recent version builds

Did a fresh git clone and I got the Titan-branch to compile, thanks. Any ETA on when the testnet is up again? I'm assuming the net is down, because I'm getting the exact same output as sudo, including "blockchain_block_num": 15168, "network_num_connections": 0.

Keep up the good fight! 

I really enjoyed this post and very eloquent summary of the past month, although I could do without the mental image of comparing the power of your "love lance".

If I understand you correctly CLains you're not exactly proposing a masterplan in the traditional sense and not trying to tell people what to do, but more a set of game theory like focal points, which I think is a great idea especially especially when communication and information is limited. I also suggested something similar for the mumble-sessions, but your over arching approach is even better.

Just creating a number of those focal points and communicating them effectively and clearly, without much fluff should work splendidly. I also think they should be broad enough to not limit attention into one particular area or solution in order to prevent tunnel vision, which in my opinion is a common outcome (there could even be situations where tunnel vision is desired when focused attention and effort is desired). Also as you suggested those focal points do need some planning and logistics plus some clearly defined subjects and a physical presence in the form of developers or very knowledgeable community members in order to actually be able to draw people in.

I also agree that it doesn't need to be fancy, just easily accessible, clear and to the point, however it does need to be brought to peoples attention and as big an audience as possible.

There is one big risk though. I do not think this plan should be editable by large numbers of random people, because even your average troll would love to mess with such a plan, especially if it allows them to mess with the minds of a large number of people.

Btw I think these issues will need to be worked out by each and every DAC separately as well. Looking at some of the posts on this forum I've noticed that there are too many people thinking about DACs not as decentralized communication and interaction networks, but really as companies in the traditional sense where they expect to receive some kind of finished product and be able to bitch at customer service. This looks to be a completely new field to explore and goes against a large number of traditional management ideas and culture.

Before I go off topic too much (and I really want to) I'll pull it right back into your plan and make a suggestion as central topic around a focalpoint/meet-up/conference/hangout/whatever: How can decentralized planning and management work effectively?

If the concept of decentralized content selling has been worked out then I'm all for a decentralized bazaar (online marketplace).

Unfortunately I think there are still a few components and concepts missing before that would work. Like reputation tracking, escrow and of course a network of safe-houses and false identities for ByteMaster and other bazaar devs, because the inquisition will be hunting them down to the ends of the world for the heathen concept of real free trade.

Quote from: toast on May 26, 2014, 07:25:03 pm

Trying to calculate whether it's feasible to subsidize miners to get to the next reset

That would be pointless. After the next reset, difficulty will be so low that it'll only take a couple of hours to reach the reset after that, and then difficulty will be really high. Much higher than it is now.

If the goal is only to reach the reset point that would be useless yeah, but I read it as propping up the network to work well enough till they are ready to hard-fork.

If you're an avid gamer, you might be able to convince yourself to temporarily run a couple of 280X pts-miners for quite a boost in network hashing and after that have some reasonable powerful graphics to play with. Maybe in anticipation of coding in 3d with castar-glasses or something like that. Realtime 3d visualization of the network to help analyse it.

What's the cpm for a 4gb cloud miner? Trying to calculate whether it's feasible to subsidize miners to get to the next reset

If you want I could setup a VPS with 6 cores on a xeon 2600 as a test and see what that does.

I'm assuming you're targeting the next reset to hard-fork to dpos and just looking for ways to get to the reset faster. Not too sure if subsidizing miners would work, but doesn't hurt to check either. Maybe other incentives could be setup (some might have been suggested in this thread before).

Btw how would the subsidizing work? Issuing a bonus on each block reward would require some cooperation with the mining pool operators I suspect, not everyone will be solo-mining.

First and foremost, see if you can get fuznuts, or whoever has the access rights to it, to post these kinds of announcements or planned events in the welcome message of the mumble server, that is the first place if should be posted imo.

I can only vote for a single day in the poll, for me as long as it is one evening in the week it doesn't really matter which evening that is, because I can try to reschedule around it.

Another point is, is this meetup focused on bitshares or is it more beyondbitcoin? If it's the latter then this poll probably should be crossposted on a number of the other forums, where people are trying to wrap their heads around other applications of decentralized technologies.

My last suggestion for the moment, for the time this poll is still running, would it be possible to just set a time that would fit your schedule Delulo and see how many people show up? Possibly try and anounce a couple of different days and see when most people show up, or during the meetup discuss what time would be most convenient.

Oh, just thought of another one while writing the last paragraph, so this will really be my last suggestion in this post. Maybe posting a central topic (or a number of them) for discussion or some questions (might also be an offer to explain what bitshares is all about, because I could conceive of people being confused and looking for some help) might make more people interested in participating no matter the date and time.