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No just give me your old login name, so I can remove it.

EDIT:
Do not change your certificate afterwards, or we're back to square one. If anything, backup the certificate if you want to keep your name or use it on other devices.

EDIT-2:
Just to be on the safe side. You did not perchance repeat Thoms favorite mumble faux-pas? You did actually fill in the password in the pop-up after filling in the connection details?

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Sorry Fuzzy....if you are busy don't worry.  I'm trying to connect to the mumble server and the connection is being rejected as an unrecognised user name.  I'm trying the username that i registered with  Beyond Bitcoin..... is that right?

Did you change your mumble certificate in the mean time? If so then mumble will not recognize you as the owner of the login name. If you want to reclaim it I can remove the old registered name and you can re-register it.

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For now usage of the certificates is set to optional on the server, so you don't strictly need one, but that also means to you have no control over that username and that someone else might be able to impersonate you or register it in your stead.

Mumbles encryption with certificates seems to work the same as ssh with publickeys.
In both cases, if you lose your half of the key, access to that name is no longer possible.
Thing is, this only becomes a problem when and if you've registered yourself on the mumble server, which is the same as telling mumble to use your certificate from now on. As long as you don't register, the certificate is not used, afaik.

If you've locked yourself out, you can send a message with your mumble-login name to Fuzzy, JabbaJabba or me and one of us can remove the registered name through the mumble-client itself.

I'm not aware of either fuzzy or jabba making anybody else a moderator on mumble, so for now we three are the only ones capable of removing registered names from the list.

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General Discussion / Re: Ethereum price discussion
« on: February 16, 2016, 12:16:28 pm »
I agree with a lot of your points about bitshares Wildpig, especially the empty promises of big deals or big pushes hurting and the uncertainty of it all. But what I don't see is why that doesn't apply to ethereum.

I get that ethereum is infinitely better at marketing and community building, but I can't find any reason for the sudden price jump. There are quite a few considerable risky issues and unsolved problems, that would have caused massive outroars on the side of bitshares users and shareholders. An unspecified and encertain move to POS, as far as I can tell remaining issues with solving bandwidth and centralization (especially since they seem to hate the solutions and ideas that have been implemented in bitshares). Last I looked the pricing of "gas" is not resolved, which is kinda important if you want to have your scripts running at the same cost.

So where is this sudden spike in confidence coming from, where I'm seeing no less issues than people see in bitshares. Is it me, or does it sound a little backward to first make a complicated system and then move it to a different blockchain? It might be just me, but the ethereum blockchain sounds a little more involved than a timestamped database and when they hand wave their plans to upgrade the entire thing without even an attempt at a governance system like in dpos, not only sounds technically difficult to me, but also very hard to get concensus on. Hell if it's so hard in bitshares with it's attempts at inbuilt voting, how will it work in ethereum?

All this does not invoke me with the same confidence in ethereum, that "the market" apparently is seeing. Btw, is this price increase actual, or can this be an orchestrated pump? I'm not trying to diss ethereum, but the only other jump I've seen like this was with the ripple-manipulation, so I'm no longer able to bring myself to buy into these kinds of jumps. The thing is, if ethereum crashes hard, I'm kinda worried it will have a bad effect on all the so called bitcoin2.0 projects.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: January 30, 2016, 03:01:30 am »
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well, imagine a reality where physically I (it is better if you imagine yourself  in that situation) cannot speak. And I do mean  physically cannot speak.(imagine something as hard as: your boat home sunk in the gulf of Mexico and you needing to live in it in Holland)

... and the personal attacks on  fuzzy  are made up stuff (this time disability on his behalf... PTSD or something...)

And if you think I am here for the short run?!... quick gains or something.... you got me wrong. But I am not also here for the stupid decisions on the medium-long term, and opinionless... maybe not as idealistic as you JoeD but who the hell is.
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Ok you lost me on the sunken boat stuff. I guess you mean you have no microphone or something like that.

Btw I wasn't trying to say you were in it for the short run, quick gains or anything like that. I was saying that you have a different perspective on things than I do. When I'm saying I'm an idealist, I do not mean that in the wishy washy political correct sense. I literally mean I have ideals which I think are the existential reasons for a particular solution. I do not believe in solutions for the heck of it, or for some unknown ideal. To me crypto and bitshares are nothing more than possible steps in the right direction, but in no way do I see them as some kind of holy grail and honestly I'm having a hard time dealing with all the ways I'm seeing crypto and bitshares going wrong. It's just that I haven't been able to find anything better. I suspect I might be a lot harder in my views than you are TonyK, bordering misanthropic. I'm absolutely not in favor of lack of opinion, fanboyism or justifying stupid decisions or being unrealistic. I was and still am quite critical of what has been going on here and the rest of the crypto space, although I did stop repeating myself after a couple of times and after my concerns were overruled or ignored by the community at large. Also I was never able to be as vocal about the trading and distributed exchange and it's concepts as you, because those were never topics that rocked my boat, nor where I had any knowledge or insight on.

It might be a language barrier thing, but I get the impression you think I'm attacking you or something happened here while I was away. I got swamped with real life trouble before the 2.0 cryptonomex switch happened and have been unable to keep up to speed on what's been going on here. But reading your latest post in this thread seems to point to you being pretty pissed off. This might be going off topic too much though. Sorry for derailing the topic, I was just surprised reading your post. Still wish I could get a chance talking to you again, I enjoyed my conversations with you and Gamey.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: January 29, 2016, 10:48:12 pm »
I confess to selling from ANGEL today to cover some expenses.   Unfortunately, I sold just prior to the big pump :( 

On the brighter side super33 appears to be out of BTS to sell.

You should listen to every word this scammer has to say.

20 days ago he was paid 45K USD... 'some expenses' here just means he is selling every time BTS is above zero.... as he believes it will soon not be above that.

I listen to extended unofficial recording of today's mumble... and more than a few comments were directed at me (well I could be imagining that but...hell I do not)...

As far as BM goes... well, I have some faith left (otherwise I would not have listened) that this (BTS) is not a milking cow of yours, BM. Actions speak louder than words, so we will se how it goes in reality.
I will just repeat myself but the late December actions showed the opposite (go for the money on the table, with  no care what BTS needs...as long as we are going to be paid and it is not totally negative it is fine etc. etc.)

@jcalfee1 and others - If I have the tech skills to do it, I would have been doing about exactly what asshole1 is doing... and no, it is not just tech issues. so coming to CNX would not proven all of his points ( as far as I get them).
For you and  @onceuponatime  it is also about a flowed system of fees. My take on it (I might be wrong but that is what I have gathered and deducted) is - if you value your token at X BTS/token....just go ahead and get X tokens for every crapcoin in your fee pool.


The last thing I want to address is 'the negativity factor' - I do believe 90% of you perceive me as the definition of that (asides from the totally baseless one like newmine). Well I have always felt I am the balancing factor  against  this forum's fan mob... but if you do thinks you are better off in your cloud of no- reasonable checks to your blind believes.. you will have your wishes come true soon enough.

As per Muse? AS someone correctly posted - I am out of it so I have not posted in those threads in....well, let's say I am posting like my name is Eddie.... My only question is - why do you all care? If it is a scam or if it a 'project that already targets some else's money? your actions should be the same? [btw I was at total lost with Rivers point that cob does not run the show... so fatty Eddy does it! Is he more responsive, trusted or what... ]

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Huh, what the hell happened? I know you as a critical person TonyK, but I missed the part where you are seen as a new newmine on the forums. I know I was not on the forums that much lately, but what the hell. I can't remember a discussion about you specifically, or are you talking about me? After the MUSE-thing I mentioned having had a discussion with you on a forum thread long ago about peoples expectations. On another note, why aren't you on mumble anymore, I liked talking to you there. Did you and Fuzzy have a fight or something?

About the MUSE thing, I'm not sure if they are targeting the bitshares community to be brutally honest. I do agree with the remark that it's odd to not talk or keep in touch with people who've invested in the project. However, I've got this suspicion that the bitshares community is not the intended target of this new endeavor on the stage of the giant copyright industry that has so much money it can bend laws to reach across outside of their own jurisdiction.

As for fundamentals, I'm not a trader, but is the world of speculators enough to keep the bitshares project afloat? In my endless ignorance I thought that there was a need for real life businesses getting onboard and using the technology or appeal to the completely hobbyist free(dom) software enthusiasts. I personally was always more interested in the freedom part and the software toolkit allowing all kinds of blockchains to be developed. But you TonyK were always here to counter my idealistic fancies, so I kinda hoped you'd stay around to keep an eye out on the pragmatic and economic aspects.

I do agree with your point about getting tired about empty promises, but why would you attack fuzzy on that personally? What does Fuzzy have to do with "announcements" for bitshares?

Shit I really feel out of the loop, where can I read a summary on what happened?

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General Discussion / Re: Crowd Donations for Mike Hearn Hangout
« on: January 15, 2016, 11:39:39 pm »
There is some bad blood already:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/413pwp/mike_hearns_latest_blog_post_was_a_strategic_move/

Stupid r/bitcoin ..
full of [fill in an appropriate term]

Not a surprising reaction to be honest. While I agree with some of his points, I'm not convinced he had the best of intentions doing it this way. Also why would his NY-article going live be part of the onstage R3-presentation? How did they even know the exact minute the article went live? That makes the whole thing a lot less ... spontaneous ... in my point of view.

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General Discussion / Re: If you are a Brownie holder
« on: November 01, 2015, 11:28:01 am »
Harrr!

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Shentist mentioned he'll upload his recording.

I might be able to upload a raw, but I really need to cut of a big chunk in the end, I kinda forgot I was recording and left it running for way too long.

EDIT
Just checked it and it seems I'm missing a part of the start of the explanation by Shentist, so my recording really is no good I'm afraid. Unless people don't mind missing a little of the beginning.

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Mumble session is now in progress. Hop on mumble if you want to talk to shentist and others about this fundraiser.

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares 0.9.3c GUI Export
« on: October 12, 2015, 06:35:52 pm »
Thank you for the confirmation, we will have a new build with that issue fixed soon.

Just wanted to mention that I ran into the same issue (no graphene style json through the gui) after doing a git pull and recompiling on linux.  While typing this a got a notification of the above quote, I'm glad a fix is on the way.  The manual command via the advanced tab console worked for me.

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General Discussion / Re: Beyond Bitcoin Worker Proposal? (Poll)
« on: October 12, 2015, 02:47:25 pm »
Perhaps a break down of what funds are needed and for what would be helpful

  "payto_account1": ["fuzzy.beyondbitcoin", "0.05"],
  "payto_account2": ["emailtooaj", "0.175"],
  "payto_account3": ["jabbajabba", "0.1375"],
  "payto_account4": [JoeyD"BTS7kNZtp64ZR1R4yC2w98g9MaLQQJRpQYTbDLFNHkM8L2AFZSj1E", "0.1375"],
  "payto_account5": [TuckFheMan"BTS7kNZtp64ZR1R4yC2w98g9MaLQQJRpQYTbDLFNHkM8L2AFZSj1E", "0.1375"],
  "payto_account6": [Riverhead"BTS82T1VMgDz3TSg3S7HM5e8UMzo5zUYLoPnnL459QcypvpefGcaX", "0.1"],
  "payto_account7": ["bunkermining", "0.1125"],
  "payto_account8": ["clains", "0.15"],

(The JoeyD and TuckFheMan accounts might be switched.  And Holy crap I actually am getting paid some?---if I had only been able to open my wallet for the past 6 months :P)

As of yesterday I no longer have to share my residence with relatives and also no longer have to hold peacekeeping conferences till the early hours, so I can concentrate on getting my btswallet updated. I don't know when I was supposed to have gotten the pay, but as far as I know I've never gotten anything. My titan address is "claude-homml" btw, so I'm not sure where the long version came from.

And fuzzy do you seriously still not have a working wallet, damn that's serious.

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General Discussion / Re: Pi2 + Touch Display + BTS 2.0
« on: September 09, 2015, 10:54:19 am »
A custom wallet to work with touchdisplay on that thing would be awesome!

 +5% but that's easy I guess. as soon as we got a android wallet. I think you can install android on Pi's

Android is one avenue, but possibly overkill and less extensible than having it work on the basic raspbian-os. Things like custom built atms, POS-setups, vending machines etc might be possible for relatively low cost through the raspberry pi ecosystem.

On the other hand, the raspberry pi might be missing some essential parts to be reliable enough, as in missing a rtc and maybe lacking in power for good encryption and such.

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General Discussion / Re: Hangout Attendance (Brownie PTS)
« on: July 21, 2015, 09:09:34 pm »
**notice**
Please have your mumble name the same as your wallet name. If you do not, I cannot ensure delivery of your brownies.

This is going to be a mess fuzzy. The registered names are bound to the certificates on the mumble server. Are you now saying we need to reregister all people, plus you can't easily share a name across devices. Plus I like my mumble name, the long bts-names are not nice.

Lol...silly joey.  All a user has to do to change their username is single click on our server, then click "edit".  There you can change the server info,  username and password.  :)
Not difficult at all.

I've wasted hours on helping people solve issues that were smaller than this (I'm looking at you Thom), but that still leaves the lengthy btsnames and multiple device/operating system thing. Plus you no longer know who is who, you may have noticed that I have a very different bts-name from my forum-handle.

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Random Discussion / Re: I'm questioning the Free Market (unusual)
« on: July 21, 2015, 07:23:52 pm »
Monopolies are not always to be feared.  If someone is providing the best services at the best prices and no one can do better, what is there to complain about.    Its only an issue if they are preventing others from competing, or you are forced to by their garbage product because no one else provides it. The best way to do that is through state power, regulations etc.  In order for a monopoly to sustain itself in a free market they have to out compete everyone else with the value and efficacy of their product.  With a state, all they need do is pass a law that makes it difficult of terribly expensive for competition to comply with all the red tape.

There might have been a day where this was true, when people were divided and businesses small, but with the megacorps today I no longer believe that. If governments get corrupted then what mechanic would prevent any monopoly from being corrupted? I fail to see the logic in that. Take a look at some of the tactics employed in the electronics industry that have nothing to do with exploiting government nor with outcompeting. Look at some of the tactics used by Microsoft, Intel and NVIDIA (among others) who can spend more time, money and manpower on destroying and sabotaging their potential competitors than those competitors can ever hope to spend on marketing or simply getting off the ground. Or in the financial field with shit like leveraged buyouts and naked-shortselling that have nothing to do with proper competing or doing business.

While I do admit governments are terrible solutions, I don't see how giving control to megacorps run by sociopaths would be any better even though that particular strand of human tends to flourish in management. Best dystopian reference that comes to mind is the one in the movie Bladerunner, where megacorps run the world and slavery is big business.

To answer the question about what could be worse than giving a bureaucratic inefficient government power, my answer would be: to give power to an efficient (sociopath) entity. I share the repulsion about corrupt government, but I hope that people don't lose sight of who or what is actually doing the corrupting. For example how many weapon-factories are actually owned, run and operated by the US-government itself? As far as I can tell, the weapons trade and their marketing (as in creating armed conflicts and fear mongering) is not affected all that much by any government in any form other than being just another tool. Sad thing is that most people can't look past the sock-puppets and fail to realize the powerful hands stuffed up their backsides controlling their mouths. I don't think it's just the sockpuppet that's the problem, it might even be the lesser one of the many evils.

Then again, my viewpoints might be a little skewed, because I see the majority of humankind as illustrated in "Lord of the Flies". Before I went to university and later joined the army I had a more idealistic worldview, but those two environments forced me to reconsider. I'm no longer confident about the basic nature of man and it deeply regrets me to say that I've seen situations (people) where force seems to be necessary last resort.

Although I also admit that the Dutch army is little different from what I've seen and heard from armies like for example the US, Israel and Great-Britain. The Dutch army tends to follow the principle of using force only as the last resort and only proportional to the situation. Where the armies of the nations I've mentioned before have this mantra about how it's easier to scale down violence than it is to scale up, apparently without even considering it's not a principle that fits all situations.  During my officer training it was often repeated that the soldiers in an army reflect a cross-section of society in their country and I wonder if that is true about the notions about using force as well. I did notice when talking to US-residents when talking about their guns that they often talk about the need to protect themselves and needing force multipliers and such.

Sorry went a little astray there, but the point I was trying to get to was that not all perceived use of force and oppression originates from "governments" per se. Government might in fact truly reflect society and that it might be the average human perception that needs to change.

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