Quote from: GaltReport on October 22, 2014, 12:44:00 am

...Only greater genius would be if someone had planned this from the beginning...to disguise the real plan... I'm willing to pretend that was the case!

That is exactly what I was thinking : )  so funny.

This is the real plan, to adapt & forge ahead, to find our way through the endless forest, for there is no road, there is only direction. The direction we maintain is forever forward.

Juuuuussstttt so you know...

These are probably the most interesting and incredible podcasts "?" ever. Thank you for doing them and thank you to everyone who comes on and asks questions live and is interviewed. I love them.

Just to be clear, the snapshot is being taken from before the thread Bytemaster posted titled "Proposed Allocation for Merger" at a time of " October 21, 2014, 12:26:43 EST"?

If your DNS was on an exchange at that moment OR if your dns had yet to be claimed, then this fix will not apply.
If your DNS was in your wallet, then this will apply.

Correct? If not, what am I (are we) misunderstanding?

Does the cryptoworld need a Decentralized Repsoitory for Crypto Companies? A place where all information is written to the blockchain?

For example, your paperwork that is public is documented and stored on the blockchain as you become a company and register with whatever governmental authority?
This is a really vague idea, but just curious if this is something else worth looking into in the future. A way to organize everything on the public ledger.

This link to this video regarding the investigation of Moolah/Alex Green got my mind going on this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89WPoLbrgyA#t=1133

Set to the time Chris begins talking about it.

Quote from: Rune on October 22, 2014, 01:30:20 pm

You act like being an early adopter is a privilege, that you deserve everything you can get your hands on. Let me tell you it is not. It is a gift, maybe the greatest gift anyone has ever received - and it is time that you take on the responsibility that goes along with it.

I think we are seeing "true colors" from a lot of people, out on display for all the community to see. Who can handle the intensity of the reality of what needs to be done? I am most impressed by the ones that haveaccepted this reality, even though it may have meant a temporary personal "loss". My observation is that those who hold most tightly to their "expectations", are the ones who cry the loudest when they find out the world does not revolve around them.

I see people looking to pay for some of their unrealized expectations on top of what was a less than graceful week.
I saw DNS and bought at with the intention of holding for well over 1000 satoshi's and ended up loosing a fair amount of the value because of the postings, but I didn't put myself in a situation where I was gambling everything on DNS rising which I think other people may have. People who went all in on BTSX before the launch were risking quite a bit as well. Also, what happened after the launch of the exchange? Didn't BTSX fall below the price MOST if not ALL of the AGS/PTS pre feb 28 snapshot people paid for it? I believe it did and there was less of an outcry because I think no one knew what to expect and now all of a sudden many people feel entitled to value rather than understanding this is unpredictable and still in growing stages.

I'm proud to be a part of something that is changing, it feels like a young vibrant adaptive company, and that's what I believe in. Smart people making difficult decisions along an unpaved road.

Quote from: bytemaster on October 22, 2014, 02:33:07 pm

Vesting only applies to VOTE + DNS + PTS + AGS.

There is some confusion over whether or not claiming your funds early results in losing everything else... 

I think that you can claim them as they mature.... so after 1 year you are 50% liquid and 50% locked up.  After 2 years everyone should be able to claim 100% of their allocation.

This is a compromise on the liquidity proposition... the other idea would have incentivized people to hold on for 2 years to avoid losing anything.

In other words... everyone will eventually get 100% of their allocation.  No penalty for claiming your matured BTS.

Is the vesting curve continuous? I asked this somewhere else but my question got buried. So do I get 1/24 after the first month, 2/24 after the 2nd month, etc?

In my opinion, this would be a better way to go about this as anyone looking to "get out" would sell sometime after the date the funds are "released" with smaller sell pressure rather than every 6 months or year, which would have a big incoming dump with a known date. If I knew that on Nov 1st, my funds and everyone's funds would be released for the first time in 6 months and I want out, everyone would sell...on the flip side, if I held something I knew people would be dumping into for the first time in 6 months, I would sell off before that date then buy in at the dip, effectively scalping some of the cost. Ideally, it would be a daily release of whatever percent that may have a constant pressure the market could get acclimated to....this is all speculation though as people may be interested in just holding like me

Quote from: Riverhead on October 22, 2014, 11:29:21 am

Vesting does not count for BTSX.

Thanks, is total supply moving from 2B?
Also who is the biggest winner from this merge? It seems to me BTSX, am I right of wrong?

Thanks

In time, everyone.

When i first bought into the idea of bitshares I thought it was basically what is being described now - a super ecosystem of core technologies for developers to launch DACs.  Then i came to see how thats not what it really was and while I did not sale or anything, because I really like a lot of the ideas behind DACs, it was disappointing to see how all these core technologies were being used basically as separate alt coins that you had to individually invest in. 

So i am in favor of a Super Dac with core technologies included that other DACs can take advantage of.  If that's whats being described and I think it is...

I think I had a similar idea as well when I first invested in AGS.
I felt as if I was donating a percentage of my holdings in BTC to help fund the future of crypto and a new experiment that may fail.
I felt better investing into AGS than I ever felt basically donating to some scams I've lost money on because of no due diligence, and after months, 3/4ths of a year of reading bytemaster, stan, toast, etc.etc.etc.'s writings, I am so confident in this system, the community, and those driving the vehicle, I am happy to have donated and received what I have already have.