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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:16:00 pm »
+5%

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General Discussion / Re: How to join the News letter.
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:14:55 pm »
@clains, why not make a community bounty for creating the newletter, ie writing articles for it? Could be done as a collaboration using "the pad"(tm)

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:06:16 pm »
I don't see the reason that we need to keep PTS1 alive.
+5% let that thing die! Cant be use for spending anyway .. confirmations take several hours atm

Why bother changing pts1 when be can go for dpos

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General Discussion / Re: Maybe we can make AGS2.0 in the future
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:03:25 pm »
I don't think in any case should AGS be liquid, that goes against the deal.
+5%

Making dac creators choose over ags1 and ags2 is also against the deal

you can go for
at least 10% pts
at least 10% ags1
x% ags2

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:00:05 pm »
Plus Stan thinks we are stupid enough to not get this picture, and must be happy because ‘He/I3 will do such great thing with this new money, that we can hardly imagine, the great benefits that wait us’
Fair enough for me :-)

i am running in full-t(h)rust mode :-)

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 01:57:22 pm »
Stan: please then focus on marketing and describe you incentives so that everyone (espescially pot. Newcomers) understand your desicions .. otherwise i can see way they will not call it a premine!!

Have we considered a charity fund? maybe with a nlocktime?

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 01:21:50 pm »
Protoangels?

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:20:50 pm »
Pts_s at bter is the snapahot for bitsharesx take 28th of feb.

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:02:38 pm »
So this leaves two options I can think of either distribute to both AGS and PTS holders evenly or use it in marketing and adding more value to your current investment. Pumping up the value of your worthless shares instead of giving you more worthless shares, doesn't sound to bad. As long as it doesn't pay for wages it sounds like Mess would be okay with it.
sounds reasonable to me

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:53:13 am »
Snapshot+update client  is  simple & efficient
when once   Snapshoted  you can convert  forever
for example  5years later  someone remembered he had bought some PTS at 2013
he find the Wallet.dat   opened with PTSx.0 client(maybe 10.0),he still has all the shares.
my guess: invictus wants to use their toolkit for pts2 instead of fiddling with satoshi client .. and I can underatand that decision well

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:32:59 am »
Sure.. practical .. but the 15% premine issue persists.

I am afraid of the public opinion calling these 15% a premine (which its is, if 3i holds the privkey)   thus will tank the price imo.

We should really consider a community fund.

+die pts1 ... die!!!
+pts2 .. tha moon ;-)

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General Discussion / Re: NXT online wallet
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:28:14 am »
Nxtforum.org ? also r/NXT at reddit is quit active

Thanks for those links and I also finally found the reason for the cloak and dagger act with their source code on that forum. That is if Come-from-beyond is part of the core team, but judging from his posts he seems to fulfill a pivotal role.  According to him the reason he is (or they are) keeping a tight lid on some of the code, most importantly transparent forging which sounds an awful lot like the delegate system from what I'm reading there, is because he fears cloning/forking and first wants the network effect and node-framework in place before making it public.

Is NXT not getting any shit for that? Just look at what the Invictus team has to put up with and they aren't even locking their share in or keeping secrets like that. Hell they seem to be exceptionally public and outspoken even encouraging people to fork/compete so you'd expect NXT to receive a much bigger public lashing, very odd.

There also seems to be some rather heavy editing/censoring going on over on bitcointalk in favour of keeping the PoW status-quo according to some people on that nxt-forum. Has anyone noticed that happening in the discussions around bitshares-dpos as well?
+5% nice summary.
Plus: compare nxt's IPO with that of 3i. shorter period .. not announced end of donation... just over 70 stake holders .. just a little more the 20 btc (afair)

I expect btsxt and btsx aswell as ptd2 too generate a much bigger buzz. I can remember alot of people not buying nxt because of the 70-people premine scam...


Btw: most dangerous thing currently ongoing with pts to pts2 is my concerns others might call the 15% marketing 'share' a premine (which it basically is)

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares PTS2 - Community Input Thread
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:12:57 am »

Say we decide to do the marketing thing, who would control those funds in order to distribute them? I3? A community representative? Do we hardcode a mapping to some other coins? Or would it go to a single address before being distributed? It's touchy issue in the same way a premine is imo, and something that would have to be handled carefully.
this is THE opportunity to test a community fund with a multi-sig address containing these pts!!!

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You could start telling us your abilities?! Coding/marketing?

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General Discussion / Re: NXT online wallet
« on: May 21, 2014, 09:34:12 am »
Nxtforum.org ? also r/NXT at reddit is quit active

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